Re: Putting a reply into the same folder where the original message is stored?

2006-03-13 Thread MAU
Hello Thomas,

M All I need is an Outgoing filter with filter 'Any message' and action
M 'Move to the folder \\MAU\Familia\%ToName'

 Either this is the last filter and all other messages are caught by
 other filters, you will need to key in the ToNames of your family
 members, correct?

I was just pointing out a 'generic' way of doing it. Where to put the
filter may/will depend on your own filter structure.

Anyway, Marek has pointed out an even better way of doing this.

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Re: Putting a reply into the same folder where the original message is stored?

2006-03-11 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Alexander,

On Fri, 3 Mar 2006 22:39:07 +0100 GMT (04/03/2006, 04:39 +0700 GMT),
Alexander S. Kunz wrote:

ASK Incoming and Sent are separate filters in TB. You need two filters. One for
ASK the incoming message, one for the outgoing message.

You might want to support the wish One kind of filters:
https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=3319

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Re: Putting a reply into the same folder where the original message is stored?

2006-03-11 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello MAU,

On Sun, 5 Mar 2006 00:04:51 +0100 GMT (05/03/2006, 06:04 +0700 GMT),
MAU wrote:

M All I need is an Outgoing filter with filter 'Any message' and action
M 'Move to the folder \\MAU\Familia\%ToName'

Either this is the last filter and all other messages are caught by
other filters, you will need to key in the ToNames of your family
members, correct?

M Of course, I have an equivalent Incoming filter using %FromName. And I
M believe this also works with %FromAddress and %ToAddress.

I use FromAdress for incoming filters from family members or friends,
because their FromName changes, depending on whether they sent from
home, office, or the web interface.

M And if you tick the appropriate box, the folder will be created if
M doesn't exist.

Which would apply for any new members of the family. This doesn't
happen very often (at least over here), so you might be scattered with
new folders when you send mails to anybody who is not covered by the
filters yet.

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Re: Putting a reply into the same folder where the original message is stored?

2006-03-07 Thread MAU
Hello Maksym,

M All I need is an Outgoing filter with filter 'Any message' and action
M 'Move to the folder \\MAU\Familia\%ToName'

M Of course, I have an equivalent Incoming filter using %FromName. And I
M believe this also works with %FromAddress and %ToAddress. And if you
M tick the appropriate box, the folder will be created if doesn't exist.

 Thank you so much! I didn't even try it that way after I tried some
 other macros in filters and those didn't work. But I've tried this one
 right now, and it works fine. Again, lots of thanks here! It's at
 least a big part of the solution I need.

Sorry for my late reply. I've been busy and having hardware problems
also.

I know you would like that :)

 I'll try and play with other macros in the filter action. I've already
 tried %FolderName in the (vain) hope that if I start a reply (or a new
 message) from a certain folder, it will place the sent message into
 that folder. However, it turns out that this macro returns Outbox,
 i.e., whenever you start writing a message, TB! makes Outbox the
 current folder (even though folder focus doesn't move in the main
 program window). Does anybody know how to get (if it's possible) an
 expression to return Name of the folder where a message being replied
 to is stored? :)

When Outgoing filters are applied the message is in the Outbox, that is
why %FolderName returns Outbox. Try using %FolderName in a new message
or reply template and you will see it returns the proper folder name
(just the name, not the path).

One thing I tries some time ago was to use the Comments header to
'save' the folder name. In my reply templates I included the line:

  %Comments=Foldername

That part works. But then I tried to use %Comments in the filter and
that didn't seem to work. Too bad :-(

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Re: Putting a reply into the same folder where the original message is stored?

2006-03-05 Thread MFPA

Hi

On Saturday 4 March 2006 at 5:17:00 PM, in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Greg wrote:

 You might want to use MAU's suggestion in TBBETA of using a password
 protected 'Archive' account in TB. It frees up lots of memory unless you
 open the password protected account to do searches.

That is an excellent idea and you might consider supporting the
wish at https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5719

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Re: Putting a reply into the same folder where the original message is stored?

2006-03-05 Thread MFPA

Hi

On Sunday 5 March 2006 at 7:56:33 PM, in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Jack S. LaRosa
wrote:

 I have a similar problem/request as stated by Maksym in the original
 post. Namely, I have created an ADDRESS GROUP called SHS and would
 like all messages *TO* members of this group to be routed to a
 specific folder other than the SENT MAIL folder. I have created a
 filter in the OUTGOING MAIL folder which has as it's condition:
 ADDRESS GROUPS = SHS but then I am forced to select CONTAIN and FIRST
 RECIPIENT (first recipient seems to work best but not perfect) to
 complete the filter. Isn't there a way to simply have ADDRESS GROUPS =
 SHS be the *only* condition to be met?

The condition is ADDRESS GROUP 'SHS' CONTAINS first recipient.

ADDRESS GROUP = SHS would not say whether you were testing the
sender, the recipient, cc, bcc,...

Perhaps all the entries in the SHS AB group could have an entry of
SHS in the memo field, for example. Then you could try filtering
on the condition memo matches SHS.

Have not tested this theory.

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Re: Putting a reply into the same folder where the original message is stored?

2006-03-04 Thread Martin Schuster
Hello Maksym,

 Sorry if this one has been asked (and answered) before, but I can't
 find it.

Are you participating in TBUDL also? I asked the same question two
weeks ago there, and Roelof gave me a very in depth answer:

mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Maybe you want to have a look if there is a solution for your
situation there (I found one for my situation ;-)


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Re: Putting a reply into the same folder where the original message is stored?

2006-03-04 Thread MAU
Hello Maksym,


 I'm looking for a more general way (something like a sent mail filter
 For each %ToName, move the message into %ToName folder).

That is already possible with TB, exactly what you want. I use it for my
family in my MAU account.

All I need is an Outgoing filter with filter 'Any message' and action
'Move to the folder \\MAU\Familia\%ToName'

Of course, I have an equivalent Incoming filter using %FromName. And I
believe this also works with %FromAddress and %ToAddress. And if you
tick the appropriate box, the folder will be created if doesn't exist.

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Re: Putting a reply into the same folder where the original message is stored?

2006-03-04 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello MAU  everyone else,

on 05-Mrz-2006 at 00:04 you (MAU) wrote:

 All I need is an Outgoing filter with filter 'Any message' and action
 'Move to the folder \\MAU\Familia\%ToName'

W... W... Wait a minute... its possible to use macros/variables there? I
never knew that. Thats amazing!

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Re: Putting a reply into the same folder where the original message is stored?

2006-03-04 Thread MAU
Hello Alexander,

 All I need is an Outgoing filter with filter 'Any message' and action
 'Move to the folder \\MAU\Familia\%ToName'

 W... W... Wait a minute... its possible to use macros/variables there? I
 never knew that. Thats amazing!

No one knows everything that can be done with TB, not eve RIT guys ;-)

I believe it's only a few macros that can be used, but I don't remember
exactly which. Certainly %ToName, %FromName, %ToAddress and %FromAdrress
can, but I don't know which others, if any.

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Re: Putting a reply into the same folder where the original message is stored?

2006-03-03 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Maksym Kozub  everyone else,

on 03-Mrz-2006 at 19:41 you (Maksym Kozub) wrote:

 I have a number of 'per recipient' mail folders in The Bat! (e.g. each
 customer has his very own folder assigned). I'd like to get my replies to
 those people saved automatically to the respective folders rather then to
 my Sent folder. (It's more convenient for me to see correspondence with a
 customer in one thread, etc.) Is there any way (maybe using macros?) to
 get it done that way?

You must create a sent filter for each recipient that will move the reply
to the appropriate folder.

I find that a bit inconvenient because I don't like to mix the physical
copies of incoming and outgoing messages.

Thus, my personal approach is to do that with virtual folders. I simply
create a new virtual folder that will check if either from or to address
are the recipient I want to track conversations with, and let the VF watch
the sent mail folder and any other folders in questions.

For example, I have a friends and family folder where all personal
conversation goes (an incoming filter based on an address book group,
known filter style); subfolders of that folder are VFs that filter as
described above.

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Re: Putting a reply into the same folder where the original message is stored?

2006-03-03 Thread David Bevington
Hello Maksym,

There might well be a more sophisticated method. BUT if the recipients
are filtered into their folders using filters based on the sender,
then your replies can be filtered into the same folder using a filter
with the recipient providing the condition for the filter.

If  [EMAIL PROTECTED] is filtered into a folder when they send
you an email, you can add an OR condition that filters mails from you
to the same folder when a.recipient is the recipient of the message
sent from you. Hope this is clear.

  A reminder of what Maksym Kozub typed on:
  03 March 2006 at 18:39:59 GMT + 

MK I have a number of 'per recipient' mail folders in The Bat! (e.g. each
MK customer has his very own folder assigned). I'd like to get my replies
MK to those people saved automatically to the respective folders rather
MK then to my Sent folder. (It's more convenient for me to see
MK correspondence with a customer in one thread, etc.) Is there any way
MK (maybe using macros?) to get it done that way?



 


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Re: Putting a reply into the same folder where the original message is stored?

2006-03-03 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello David Bevington  everyone else,

on 03-Mrz-2006 at 22:24 you (David Bevington) wrote:

 If [EMAIL PROTECTED] is filtered into a folder when they send you
 an email, you can add an OR condition that filters mails from you to the
 same folder when a.recipient is the recipient of the message sent from
 you. Hope this is clear.

Incoming and Sent are separate filters in TB. You need two filters. One for
the incoming message, one for the outgoing message.

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Re: Putting a reply into the same folder where the original message is stored?

2006-03-03 Thread Richard Wakeford
Hello Alexander,

On Fri, 3 Mar 2006 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

ASK Incoming and Sent are separate filters in TB. You need two filters. One for
ASK the incoming message, one for the outgoing message.

You can get round that if you BCC to yourself. When your BCC comes back
you can have the recipient and sender in the same inbox filter. You can
also have two physical copies of your message. One in the sent folder
(the main message) and the BCC filtered as a reply to the original
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