Re: TB, IMAP and smartphones

2011-01-16 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Avram,

On 16-01-2011 05:49, you wrote in
mid:ea212972badaf346928b6ce4a35397a40138d...@wkclrtx95009.na.wkglobal.com:
 In other words, when mail is received by your third-party mail host,
 such as GoDaddy.com or 1and1.com, it stays in your account on your mail
 host's server?

Yes.

 Do you ever download it to your computer so that you
 own a copy?

I always do this. It's called Full Synchronization in TB. Does not work
currently in the 5.x series - hence I am using the 4.x series.

 Do you trust your mail host to never lose your e-mail, even if it is 5 or 10
 years' old?

Yes. But I also back up old mail to my HDD and my NAS.

 Is it possible to have IMAP and still download a copy to your computer?

Yes. See above.

 If you have set up a whole bunch of folders for your mail, do you have
 to do the same for your phone?

On my phone I can easily set it up with the same folders as on the server.

 Aren't the folders located on the computer?

They are on the server. They may be mirrored on the computer but only if I set
it up.

 Or, is it that when you read mail from your phone, you just have to wade
 through everything and not have folders?

That would depend on the mail client on the phone. K9 mail for Android lets see
all mail in one folder (aggregated) or lets you browse the messages in each
folder.

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RE: TB, IMAP and smartphones

2011-01-15 Thread Sacks, Avram
On Friday, January 14, 2011 at 2:28 PM Peter Fjelsten wrote regarding
the use of TB and smartphones with IMAP

I check the same accounts using an Android phone, webmail, TheBat and
Outlook.
Using IMAP means that a mail is marked read when it's read on any of
those
clients. Also all mail is available to all clients since it sits on the
server.

I'd suggest using only IMAP

In other words, when mail is received by your third-party mail host,
such as GoDaddy.com or 1and1.com, it stays in your account on your mail
host's server?  Do you ever download it to your computer so that you
own a copy?  Do you trust your mail host to never lose your e-mail,
even if it is 5 or 10 years' old?

Is it possible to have IMAP and still download a copy to your computer?

If you have set up a whole bunch of folders for your mail, do you have
to do the same for your phone?  Aren't the folders located on the
computer?  If so, how can you access folders from the phone?  Or, is it
that when you read mail from your phone, you just have to wade through
everything and not have folders?

Avi

Avram Sacks
Using TB ver. 4.0.18 on Win XP Pro and Win 7.




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Re: TB, IMAP and smartphones

2011-01-15 Thread MFPA
Hi


On Sunday 16 January 2011 at 4:49:50 AM, in
mid:ea212972badaf346928b6ce4a35397a40138d...@wkclrtx95009.na.wkglobal.com,
Sacks, Avram wrote:


 Is it possible to have IMAP and still download a copy
 to your computer?

Yes.



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Re: TB, IMAP and smartphones

2011-01-15 Thread Dwight Corrin
On Saturday, January 15, 2011, 10:49:50 PM, Sacks, Avram wrote:
 
 If you have set up a whole bunch of folders for your mail, do you have
 to do the same for your phone?  Aren't the folders located on the
 computer?   

best to create the folders and do the sorting on the server. then they 
are where they belong wherever you reference them from. 
  
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RE: TB, IMAP and smartphones

2011-01-15 Thread Sacks, Avram
Hi, Dwight,

Thanks for your response.   Please see below.
On Saturday, January 15, 2011 11:09 PM Dwight Corrin wrote 

In response to my question:
 If you have set up a whole bunch of folders for your mail, do you have
 to do the same for your phone?  Aren't the folders located on the
 computer?   

best to create the folders and do the sorting on the server. then they 
are where they belong wherever you reference them from.

Ok.  I see that you are using the beta version of TB, 5.0.0.

When I tried to set up IMAP when I went from ver. 1.60 to 4.0.18, it
didn't work so well.  After seeing comments from others that they, too,
had had difficulties with IMAP, I assumed it was the software and not my
lack of technical skill.

Is your positive experience with IMAP a function of using ver. 5.0.0, or
were you able to get it to work with version 4.0.18. or earlier?

//Avi

Avram Sacks
Using TB ver. 4.0.18 on Win XP pro and Win 7
  


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Re: TB, IMAP and smartphones

2011-01-15 Thread Dwight Corrin
On Saturday, January 15, 2011, 11:21:20 PM, Sacks, Avram wrote:
 
 Is your positive experience with IMAP a function of using ver. 5.0.0, or
 were you able to get it to work with version 4.0.18. or earlier?
 
version  4.x  worked  better with IMAP than any other client I tried. 
4.0.18 is a pretty old version. It shows at the bottom of messages for 
this list that current is 4.2.23. 
  
-- 
 Dwight A. Corrin 
 316.303.9385  phone ahead to fax 
 dcorrin at fastmail.fm 
 photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com 
 photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com 
   http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 
 Using IMAP with The Bat! 5.0.0.129 BETA on Windows Vista version 6,0 (Service 
Pack 2)



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RE: TB, IMAP and smartphones

2011-01-15 Thread Sacks, Avram
Hi, Dwight,

You wrote:


 Is your positive experience with IMAP a function of using ver. 5.0.0,
or
 were you able to get it to work with version 4.0.18. or earlier?
 
'version  4.x  worked  better with IMAP than any other client I tried. 
4.0.18 is a pretty old version. It shows at the bottom of messages for 
this list that current is 4.2.23. 


Does this mean that you are finding that IMAP works better with 4.2.23
than with 5.0.0 (beta)?

//avi

Avram Sacks

Using ver. 4.0.18 on Win XP pro and Win7


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Re: TB, IMAP and smartphones

2011-01-14 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Avram,

On 14-01-2011 02:09, you wrote in
mid:ea212972badaf346928b6ce4a35397a40138d...@wkclrtx95009.na.wkglobal.com:
 I and my wife may soon be migrating to smartphones.   However, how
 does one synchronize e-mail between two computers and two smartphones?

All just connect using same credentials to the same account/server.

 Is this purpose served through use of IMAP?

Exactly.

I check the same accounts using an Android phone, webmail, TheBat and Outlook.
Using IMAP means that a mail is marked read when it's read on any of those
clients. Also all mail is available to all clients since it sits on the server.

 POP is used for all of these accounts.

I'd suggest using only IMAP.

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