Re: TO and FROM Order?

2000-10-12 Thread Peter Steiner

Hello Thomas

On Thu, 12 Oct 2000 12:53:59 +0800, Thomas Fernandez wrote:

PS The other thing: i don't remember the RFC822 requiring an order in the
PS header fields. There is the UNIX mbox format, where messages start
PS with a "From " line, but that is not the "From:" field you can see
PS when composing a new message.

TF Ah - that's what I mean, but I thought "From:" and "From" is the same.
TF Stupid me.

TF (BTW what is the difference?)

"From:" is a RFC822 header (not sure if it is required, but surely
99.99% of all mails do have it; all these RFC822 headers must have a
colon after the name) and is what you see in TB! in any From columns
and fields.

The "From " line (note the space) is not part of RFC822, but is needed
by the UNIX mbox format to separate individual messages from each
other in the mailbox file. To be more specific, the from line has a
more complicated format than just to begin with "From ", it contains
an email address and a time (which is usually interpreted as the
'received' time, while the time from the RFC822 Date: header is the
'created' time).

Regards

Peter
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Re: TO and FROM Order?

2000-10-11 Thread Peter Steiner

Hello bat people

On Mon, 9 Oct 2000 11:24:02 +0800, Thomas Fernandez wrote:

TF On Sun, 8 Oct 2000 14:54:24 -0700GMT (09/10/2000, 05:54 +0800GMT),
TF Michael S. Greenbaum wrote:

MSG Is there a way to change the order of TO and From on a new message?

MSG I would prefer to see the person to whom I am sending the message come
MSG first and my information come second?

TF It's somewhere in the RFC's, I think. A message starts with "From".
TF Nothing any application can do, except hide this fact to the user and
TF just display it backwards. Which would lead to confusion.

I think that Michael talked about the message header display which has
nothing to do with the order the corresponding info is written into
the RFC822 header. This is a GUI thing. TB! is not very flexible when
it comes to rearranging the elements of the user interface. We all
eagerly wait for V2 to see improvements...

The other thing: i don't remember the RFC822 requiring an order in the
header fields. There is the UNIX mbox format, where messages start
with a "From " line, but that is not the "From:" field you can see
when composing a new message.

Regards

Peter
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Re: TO and FROM Order?

2000-10-11 Thread Thomas Fernandez

Hallo Peter,

On Wed, 11 Oct 2000 22:17:59 +0200 GMT (12/10/00, 04:17 +0800 GMT),
Peter Steiner wrote:

PS The other thing: i don't remember the RFC822 requiring an order in the
PS header fields. There is the UNIX mbox format, where messages start
PS with a "From " line, but that is not the "From:" field you can see
PS when composing a new message.

Ah - that's what I mean, but I thought "From:" and "From" is the same.
Stupid me.

(BTW what is the difference?)

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Re: TO and FROM Order?

2000-10-11 Thread Syafril Hermansyah

Hello Peter Steiner,

Responding  to  your  article  on Wed, 11 Oct 2000 at 22:17:59 GMT +0200
(which was 12/10/2000 3:17 GMT +0700 my Local Time) :

MSG Is  there  a  way  to  change  the  order of TO and From on a new
MSG message?

MSG I would prefer to see the person to whom I am sending the message
MSG come first and my information come second?

TF It's somewhere in the RFC's, I think. A message starts with "From".
TF Nothing any application can do, except hide this fact to the user and
TF just display it backwards. Which would lead to confusion.

PS I think that Michael talked about the message header display which has
PS nothing to do with the order the corresponding info is written into
PS the RFC822 header. This is a GUI thing. TB! is not very flexible when
PS it comes to rearranging the elements of the user interface. We all
PS eagerly wait for V2 to see improvements...

PS The  other  thing: i don't remember the RFC822 requiring an order in
PS the  header  fields.  There  is the UNIX mbox format, where messages
PS start with a "From " line, but that is not the "From:" field you can
PS see when composing a new message.

AFAIK RFC-822 not state about the order, just about header field.
Some  headers  created by MUA and others by MTA, and the moral said : do
not   change   original  data",  perhaps  other MUA or application still
keep/refer RFC Standard.



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Re: TO and FROM Order?

2000-10-08 Thread Thomas Fernandez

Hi Michael,

On Sun, 8 Oct 2000 14:54:24 -0700GMT (09/10/2000, 05:54 +0800GMT),
Michael S. Greenbaum wrote:

MSG Is there a way to change the order of TO and From on a new message?

MSG I would prefer to see the person to whom I am sending the message come
MSG first and my information come second?

It's somewhere in the RFC's, I think. A message starts with "From".
Nothing any application can do, except hide this fact to the user and
just display it backwards. Which would lead to confusion.

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