Re: The Bat! versus others
On Sun 18 January 2004, 1:00:56 +1000, Allie Martin wrote: Mau, [M] wrote: M Yes, it looks nice. Which set is it so I don't have to scroll them M all? That would be glyphs #55. And now that I am trying out WindowBlinds, what was the skin you are using? -- Robin Anson Using The Bat! v2.01.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Allie Martin wrote: Henk De Bruijn, [HDB] wrote: http://www.windowblinds.net HDB Which font is this? Where? I don't know which font you're referring to. Sorry, to the font which is used here: http://www.ac-martin.com/pics/tb.png -- regards, Henk. __ The Bat! The Natural E-mail System v2.02.3nl CE on Windows XP PGP Key Request: See Headers or send email with subj.: send HenksKeyID pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hello Nick, I would still like to see a customisable Toolbar Yes, I agree that would be really nice. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.01.3 Winamp OFF: Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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on Sun, 18 Jan 2004 03:20:58 -0500 Allie Martin wrote: HDB Sorry, to the font which is used here: HDB http://www.ac-martin.com/pics/tb.png AM It's Bitstream Vera Sans Mono AM http://www.december14.net/bin/VeraSansMono.zip Great font. Together with your suggested Glyph set (#55 from http://www.thebatworld.de) it looks now very nice here, too.. Thanks for that lifting.. I'm using the Reflections XP Theme from http://www.imagehouse.co.za/themes.html (and just realized that there is an updated version with AQUA.. :) I recommend this theme (requires patched uxtheme.dll or ThemeXP) very much, as I haved tried a lot some months ago (also with Windowblinds). -- shinE! http://www.thequod.de ICQ#152282665 PGP 8.0 key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc Using The Bat! v2.03 Beta/40 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hello Mark, A few can be found here: http://www.thebat.cz/ikony.htm http://bat-mail.de.vu/tools.html And many more here: http://www.thebatworld.de/system/sections/index.php?op=listarticlessecid=10 -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.01.3 Winamp OFF: Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hello malexander, http://www.wincustomize.com/ - the fee is worth it :) Yes, it seems like it is worth. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.01.3 Winamp OFF: Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hello Edgar, M You may have all of that for news with TB and MyGate :) Still MyGate is still a plug-in that does not always work good with every news server configuration. No software is perfect and don't suit everybody's needs. :-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.01.3 Winamp OFF: Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hello Allie, Thanks for that. I found a nice glyphs set there. TB! is looking great here. :) http://www.ac-martin.com/pics/tb.png I like the MacOSX look. ;) Yes, it looks nice. Which set is it so I don't have to scroll them all? -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.01.3 Winamp OFF: Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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On Thursday, January 15, 2004, 18:47:53, Darrin wrote: I'm currently tying out becky. I must say, its the closest thing to TB! Mind you, Im only on day 2 of my 30 day free trial. I started off not liking it. Mainly because Ive been using TB! for over a year now and am used to it. The more Im using it the more I like it. However I don't think I will give up TB! anytime soon. Its still more powerful than any other email client I have tried. For today its TB! tomorrow. maybe Becky! who knows. They are both, in my opinion the best two email clients out there. What other features besides comb styling text does Becky have above TB? Ro 'scnr' man -- Roman Katzer, Aachen, Germany If you kick someone's ass, it's the greatest feeling in the world. I know from my personal Vietnam. -- Howard Stern Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hallo Allie, On Saturday, January 17, 2004, 2:42:48 PM, you wrote: Thanks for that. I found a nice glyphs set there. TB! is looking great here. :) http://www.ac-martin.com/pics/tb.png I like the MacOSX look. ;) Me too! I would like to have the same look. What do I have to do or where do I have to go? TIA! -- regards, Henk. __ The Bat! The Natural E-mail System v2.02.3nl CE on Windows XP PGP Key Request: See Headers or send email with subj.: send HenksKeyID pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hello MAU, On Sat, 17 Jan 2004 14:51:10 +0100 GMT (17/01/2004, 20:51 +0700 GMT), MAU wrote: http://www.ac-martin.com/pics/tb.png I like the MacOSX look. ;) Yes, it looks nice. I agree. Is that MacOSX look an XP theme, or is it WindowBlinds? -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. At the evening service tonight, the sermon topic will be What is Hell? Come early and listen to the choir practice. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.03 Beta/31 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 256MB RAM Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Allie, On Sat, 17 Jan 2004 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The answer is in WindowBlinds: You've caused me a lot of wasted hours by pointing me in that direction :-) It's great fun to play with and there are some lovely skins around. I'm playing with Pup (skin that is) at the moment! - -- Best regards, Richard | Using The Bat! 2.03 Beta/38 SpamPal | Windows 2000 (build 2195), version 5.0 Service Pack 4 | and the best browser: Opera 7.50 PGP public key: http://pgpkeys.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xCA93B5BE -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.3 Comment: iQA/AwUBQAm6YRqZtcDKk7W+EQKq1gCg1zoTnJyht6RCZLJf6uixxWBcUXEAn07X wMV76STY4ZsDQp3pYfSu8FkG =qB4J -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hello Richard, You've caused me a lot of wasted hours by pointing me in that direction :-) Not only you :-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.01.3 Winamp OFF: Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello MAU, On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You've caused me a lot of wasted hours by pointing me in that direction :-) Not only you :-) So Allie is responsible for bringing the world to a halt as we all try Windowblinds. Sorry mods, I know we're drifting a bit here. - -- Best regards, Richard | Using The Bat! 2.03 Beta/38 SpamPal | Windows 2000 (build 2195), version 5.0 Service Pack 4 | and the best browser: Opera 7.50 PGP public key: http://pgpkeys.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xCA93B5BE -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.3 Comment: iQA/AwUBQAnFsBqZtcDKk7W+EQLtsgCdHIr/SaPvjga2tQtg+mjXZuolobMAn1K9 c6WqydZZd9hYklKoErppr6i/ =87Bq -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hello Allie, On Saturday, January 17 2004 at 05:58 PM PDT, you wrote: So I think with the ability to change the glyphs, there's no need to ask Ritlabs to make things spiffy. Just use something like WindowBlinds. I would still like to see a customisable Toolbar along with some nice 'finishing touches' around the window edges, etc., similar to Eudora. -- ~~Nick Andriash~~ Creston, B.C. Canada Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Allie Martin wrote: Henk De Bruijn, [HDB] wrote: HDB Me too! I would like to have the same look. What do I have to do or HDB where do I have to go? The answer is in WindowBlinds: http://www.windowblinds.net Which font is this? -- regards, Henk. __ The Bat! The Natural E-mail System v2.02.3nl CE on Windows XP PGP Key Request: See Headers or send email with subj.: send HenksKeyID pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Darrin, On 15 January 2004, 15:38 -0800 ( 23:38 local time) Darrin [D] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The next version will have much better support for XP themes and more control over header colours etc. Would that help? D Any idea about the approximate time for this version? Afraid not... but the beta versions keep coming thick and fast. - -- As ever, Martin Webster The Bat! 2.03 Beta/38 | BayesIt! 0.4gm (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.3 Comment: iQA/AwUBQAelYjknq5PWREYNEQK0hACfaXDVC2OP+81rxA9DJdAcjiWnjjYAn2P6 uTeFfJEwgnGV7HP1rOvCrlBs =xP8d -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hello there. I agree fully with S J Love about the look of The Bat! I have used the bat for many years now and I am very satisfied, but I also think TB is very dull and boring to look at. Of course the contents of the program is the most important, but now that we have some very fine contents then I would very much like if TB! would be beffed up with some nice colours and a more artistic interface. of course tookable as there are users who would certainly just like the plain old look. Peter SJL There are a lot of nice things about SJL PM...and I am thinking the SJL 'perfect' email for me would be TB, SJL with the appearance, SJL 'skinnability', and some of the nice SJL little touches of PM. YesI SJL know that personal preferences (re SJL features and appearance) have a big SJL impact on one's choice of mailer. SJL Despite some of the current bugs (eg in SJL HTML): I see TB as being SJL fairly boring and dull in appearance, SJL but fast, reliable, fairly easy SJL to use, and perhaps unsurpassed for SJL power and flexibility. If there SJL was an easy way to improve the SJL appearance of TB... eg change the grey SJL backdrop for something else...even a SJL nice buff colour (as in some of SJL the screenshots of TB I have seen) SJL then it would make all the SJL difference. Well, a big improvement at least. Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Allie, On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Try WindowBlinds. :) It will not only make TB! look better, but will make Windows, in general, look better. Just had a quick look and it seems great. Will give it a try. Thanks for the pointer because I also think TB! is a bit dull visually. - -- Best regards, Richard | Using The Bat! 2.03 Beta/38 SpamPal | Windows 2000 (build 2195), version 5.0 Service Pack 4 | and the best browser: Opera 7.50 PGP public key: http://pgpkeys.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xCA93B5BE -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.3 Comment: iQA/AwUBQAfwqxqZtcDKk7W+EQK8vACfbsmiy0oMFpzQTkwR/dzlLn7ZpOAAoMJr wdapEZCM1+Dt+xe0WzrJ7Oqb =e6Km -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Allie, On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I think this is the way to go rather than having each program do its own spiffing up. Yes, it's good. - -- Best regards, Richard | Using The Bat! 2.03 Beta/38 SpamPal | Windows 2000 (build 2195), version 5.0 Service Pack 4 | and the best browser: Opera 7.50 PGP public key: http://pgpkeys.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xCA93B5BE -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.3 Comment: iQA/AwUBQAgP7RqZtcDKk7W+EQL9GgCdGC3gsfE0XjvkV7A0/y1zNvxNnl8An3lH tJMcBJo+n0XeEsVlGk9xzb// =W4Np -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Thursday, January 15, 2004, 11:42:35 PM, Chris wrote: My copy of Outlook (and Office 2003) was so broken that I spent 2 hours and 45 minutes on the phone with Microsoft technical support deleting files, folders, registry keys, running system restore, re-installing Office... Sounds like it's time to switch to OpenOffice.org. :) -- Chris Montgomery TB! v2.02.3 CE on Windows XP5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Thursday, January 15, 2004, 4:52:38 PM, S J Love ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: SJL I make no secret: though The Bat! (TB) has been my default mailer for SJL over a year, I have played with others, including Eudora, M2 in Opera, SJL Pegasus, (even Outlook Express and Outlook..again - VERY briefly), SJL Mozilla Mail, Mozilla Thunderbird, various mailers in Linux (K-Mail, SJL Evolution), Courier/Calypso, Pocomail etc. At work I use Lotus Notes SJL (no choice; formerly Pegasus - again, no choice). I looked at Becky, SJL and decided not to bother. (Apologies to Becky fans) Agent is really good. My wife uses it, and now that 2.0 is close to coming out, with support for multiple accounts, and for multiple news servers, I may go back to it. (Heresy, I know) Best regards, Jonathan Gennick --- Brighten the corner where you are http://Gennick.com * 906.387.1698 * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Join the Oracle-article list and receive one article on Oracle technologies per month by email. To join, visit http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/oracle-article, or send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and include the word subscribe in either the subject or body. Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hello Jonathan, Friday, January 16, 2004, 1:11:28 PM, Jonathan Gennick wrote: JG Agent is really good. ... I have Agent as well for news. JG I may go back to it. Agent would have to make quantum leaps before I'd even think about using it for my email. With the filtering, macros, and template functionality of TB it would be a stretch for me. -- Best regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v2.03 Beta/33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hello Greg, JG Agent is really good. ... I have Agent as well for news. Arr! ;-) With the filtering, macros, and template functionality of TB it would be a stretch for me. You may have all of that for news with TB and MyGate :) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.01.3 Winamp OFF: Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hello MAU, On Friday, January 16, 2004, 10:44:43 PM, you wrote: With the filtering, macros, and template functionality of TB it would be a stretch for me. M You may have all of that for news with TB and MyGate :) Still MyGate is still a plug-in that does not always work good with every news server configuration. When I use it, it will download all news that I have already because @home (my provider) uses 4-5 news servers that seems to send every thing like 1 server. -- Cheers, Edgar Communicating with TB! v2.02 CE, Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Knock on the sky and listen to the sound! - Zen saying To request my public key select this url: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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On Friday, January 16, 2004 at 12:43:53 AM, Allister Jenks wrote in the message The Bat! versus others mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Well, heck, neither does Outlook! It took me a long while to find the email headers for example - surely a fundamental requirement of an email client??? How does one find them? -- Chris Quoting when replying to this message is good for your karma. Duct tape is like the Force. It has a light side, a dark side, and it holds the universe together. Using The Bat! v2.02.3 CE on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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On Friday, January 16, 2004 at 12:56:21 PM, Chris Montgomery wrote in the message The Bat! versus others mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: My copy of Outlook (and Office 2003) was so broken that I spent 2 hours and 45 minutes on the phone with Microsoft technical support deleting files, folders, registry keys, running system restore, re-installing Office... Sounds like it's time to switch to OpenOffice.org. :) I couldn't synchronize with my Pocket PC then. And I don't like Palms. I haven't tried the Sharp Zaurus yet... -- Chris Quoting when replying to this message is good for your karma. [Warning on knife]: Caution. Blade is sharp. Keep out of children. Using The Bat! v2.02.3 CE on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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On Friday 16 January 2004 05:39 pm, Munango-Keewati wrote: It took me a long while to find the email headers for example - surely a fundamental requirement of an email client??? Where? I haven't been able to find anything equivalent to real header information. For Outlook 97, 98, or 2000, see http://www.haltabuse.org/help/headers/microsoft.shtml#outlook97. I imagine getting them in more recent versions is the same as 2000, but I'm not sure. -- Mike mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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I looked at Becky, and decided not to bother. (Apologies to Becky fans) I'm currently tying out becky. I must say, its the closest thing to TB! Mind you, Im only on day 2 of my 30 day free trial. I started off not liking it. Mainly because Ive been using TB! for over a year now and am used to it. The more Im using it the more I like it. However I don't think I will give up TB! anytime soon. Its still more powerful than any other email client I have tried. For today its TB! tomorrow. maybe Becky! who knows. They are both, in my opinion the best two email clients out there. Just my 2cents :) -- Darrin Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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S J Love wrote: cc D Wilde (I.T. guru fellow BMW rider)...I was going to introduce the analogy of BMW bikes (highly competent but not loved by the masses) vs (say) Harley Davidsons (majoring more on form than function), but decided not to go there g Your position on The Bat contradicts my idea of BMW motorcycles (function over form) - BMWs are reliable and often considered downright geeky in the motorcycle world. If anything, The Bat! is the BMW motorcycles of the e-mail clients. Outlook would have to be the Harley of e-mail clients: big, fat, slow, troublesome and MASSIVELY popular. -- Ken Green (Honda VFR800) Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hello ken, Thursday, January 15, 2004, 9:07:57 PM, you wrote: kg Outlook would have to be the Harley of e-mail clients How dare you insult Harley's in such a manner! That is, indeed, a low blow. -- Best regards, Steve TB! v2.02.3 CE on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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On Friday, January 16, 2004 at 12:07:57 AM, ken green wrote in the message The Bat! versus others mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Outlook would have to be ... big, fat, slow, troublesome and MASSIVELY popular. My copy of Outlook (and Office 2003) was so broken that I spent 2 hours and 45 minutes on the phone with Microsoft technical support deleting files, folders, registry keys, running system restore, re-installing Office... At least, using my free night and weekend cell phone minutes, I wasn't charged any long distance. Who need 3650 night and weekend minutes a month? All that work just to get my PocketPC to synchronize. One good thing came out of the whole process: I can install Office 2003 in under 10 minutes! -- Chris Quoting when replying to this message is good for your karma. Change is inevitable, except from a vending machine. Using The Bat! v2.02 CE on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
