Re: What's with the TB archives?
Dear Jon, On 16:09 10.05.2004, you [jwayne] wrote... Note that while nntp: URLs specify a unique location for the article resource, most NNTP servers currently on the Internet today areconfigured only to allow access from local clients, and thus nntp URLs do not designate globally accessible resources. Thus, the news:form of URL is preferred as a way of identifying news articles. The GMane news server is a globally accessible resource ;) Cheers, Johannesmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- When you make your mark in the world, watch out for guys with erasers. Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: What's with the TB archives?
Dear Jwayne, @10-May-2004, 09:17 -0400 (10-May 14:17 UK time) jwayne [J] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck: J Thanks. BTW, I only found the Gmane link via Google. MDP Damn! That's being sent out by the list server and it thinks MDP it's sending HTML instead of plain text. I shall have to go MDP a-mending. J Oh, and one more thing. The Gmane links on J http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html are incorrect. J They should be be prefixed with news://, not nntp://. I don't think so. They work perfectly as they are. nntp:// is the correct prefix for news protocol URLs. -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.10.03 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 ' pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: What's with the TB archives?
Dear Jwayne, @10-May-2004, 10:09 -0400 (10-May 15:09 UK time) jwayne [J] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck: J Oh, and one more thing. The Gmane links on J http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html are J incorrect. They should be be prefixed with news://, not J nntp://. MDP I don't think so. They work perfectly as they are. nntp:// is MDP the correct prefix for news protocol URLs. J I get OE errors when clicking on an nntp:// link. Probably could J fix this in the registry. Regardless, J http://rfc.net/rfc1738.html J states J Note that while nntp: URLs specify a unique location for the J article resource, most NNTP servers currently on the Internet J today areconfigured only to allow access from local clients, J and thus nntp URLs do not designate globally accessible J resources. Thus, the news:form of URL is preferred as a way J of identifying news articles. And also says: ; NEWS (see also RFC1036) newsurl= news:; grouppart grouppart = * | group | article group = alpha *[ alpha | digit | - | . | + | _ ] article= 1*[ uchar | ; | / | ? | : | | = ] @ host ; NNTP (see also RFC977) nntpurl= nntp://; hostport / group [ / digits ] where news:// is clearly the preferred way to specify an *article*, but nntp:// refers to a group - which is what we're doing! I will change the references since OE is broken, but I don't think it's right to do so. -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.10.03 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 ' pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: What's with the TB archives?
On Monday, May 10, 2004, Marck D Pearlstone wrote... where news:// is clearly the preferred way to specify an *article*, but nntp:// refers to a group - which is what we're doing! I will change the references since OE is broken, but I don't think it's right to do so. Or, point the users to the main gmane page, and let them follow the instructions ;) Which... also specifies nntp:// So once again, OE breaks stuff ;) -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Using The Bat! v2.10.01 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Forget 0 to 60. It's 95 to 55 that counts! pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: What's with the TB archives?
Dear Jonathan, @10-May-2004, 09:33 -0500 (10-May 15:33 UK time) Jonathan Angliss [JA] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck: ... snip JA the instructions ;) Which... also specifies nntp:// So once JA again, OE breaks stuff ;) ... which I had forgotten and put changes to our references out of the question AFAIAC. Unless anybody thinks that both our reference page and the GMane page itself are in the wrong? -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.10.03 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 ' pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: What's with the TB archives?
Hello Marck, where news:// is clearly the preferred way to specify an *article*, but nntp:// refers to a group - which is what we're doing! I will change the references since OE is broken, but I don't think it's right to do so. Why don't you just put both and... everybody happy! :) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.10.03 Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: What's with the TB archives?
Dear Miguel, @10-May-2004, 18:43 +0200 (10-May 17:43 UK time) MAU [MAU] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck: where news:// is clearly the preferred way to specify an *article*, but nntp:// refers to a group - which is what we're doing! I will change the references since OE is broken, but I don't think it's right to do so. MAU Why don't you just put both and... everybody happy! :) Space and confusion! -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.10.03 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 ' pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: What's with the TB archives?
Dear Jwayne, @10-May-2004, 06:52 -0400 (10-May 11:52 UK time) jwayne [J] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: J Last posting in the tbudl archives is over 2 weeks old. Has J the archiving been abandoned? (I hope not, because I only J resubscribed to ask this question!) We're still sending to the archive. A much better archive is the new GMane one. Check the TBUDLInfo page for details! -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.10.03 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 ' pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: What's with the TB archives?
Dear Jwayne, @10-May-2004, 09:07 -0400 (10-May 14:07 UK time) jwayne [J] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck: J Last posting in the tbudl archives is over 2 weeks old. Has J the archiving been abandoned? (I hope not, because I only J resubscribed to ask this question!) MDP We're still sending to the archive. A much better archive is MDP the new GMane one. Check the TBUDLInfo page for details! J Thanks. BTW, I only found the Gmane link via Google. My J latest Welcome email has only J http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ which is J also the only link I could find on Silverstones. This is also the J link on RIT's TB support page. ... which is why I said Check the TBUDLInfo page for details! J (As a side note, most of the links that I see in the Welcome J email have lt; and gt;. They don't work when I click on J them because the gt; is part of the link.) Damn! That's being sent out by the list server and it thinks it's sending HTML instead of plain text. I shall have to go a-mending. -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.10.03 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 ' pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
