Re: is v.4.2.42 truncated urls in the body?
Hello Marck, On Saturday, April 2, 2011, 3:06:47 PM, Marck Pearlstone wrote: snip... URL is incorrect as it does not conform to RFC 1738. fully agree. Now I have to copy/paste the link in browser. snip...If there is tampering with the URL, it is being down by a routing MTA (transit mail server) or by an anti-virus message scourer. TB has faults, but this is not one of them. with AV turned off, it is MTA at fault. Your help has been appreciated. My confidence in TB is not shaken. -- Best regards, CDIsxmmailto:cdi...@thebat.net Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: is v.4.2.42 truncated urls in the body?
Now is it possible I wonder how to create a RegEx that opens only those subject headers in plain text and the rest in HTML ? If someone can come up with THAT it would be great Until then try [shift] [control] K -- Rick When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car v5.0.6 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: is v.4.2.42 truncated urls in the body?
Hi On Saturday 2 April 2011 at 6:46:49 PM, in mid:1779172081.20110402134...@thebat.net, CDIsxm wrote: The fact that the problem is not present when I read the link as a plain text webmail, proves that the link is not tampered with until it is received by TB. How does the link appear you view the message source in TB!? (Assuming the message encoding isn't something unreadable like base64.) -- Best regards MFPAmailto:expires2...@ymail.com Why is the universe here? Well, where else would it be? Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: is v.4.2.42 truncated urls in the body?
Hello MFPA, snip... How does the link appear you view the message source in TB!? (Assuming the message encoding isn't something unreadable like base64.) you solved it. Thank you. It remains intact when I view it in F9. Now is it possible I wonder how to create a RegEx that opens only those subject headers in plain text and the rest in HTML ? -- Best regards, CDIsxmmailto:cdi...@thebat.net Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: is v.4.2.42 truncated urls in the body?
Hello CDIsxm, On Fri, 1 Apr 2011 10:34:02 -0400 GMT (01/Apr/11, 21:34 PM +0700 GMT), CDIsxm wrote: If it's not a confidential link, could you post it here? C This is what it should look like: C http://info216259.myorderbox.com/linkhandler/servlet/ConfirmRfaServlet?rfaid=2849736type=DomTrfRegToUs∂icipant_name=AdminContact∂icipant_emailaddress=info/@cdi-sxm.comdomainname=handismart.orgresponse=ykey=598290147requestfor=DomTrfRegToUsrvid=4457'http://info216259.myorderbox.com/linkhandler/servlet/ConfirmRfaServlet?rfaid=2849736type=DomTrfRegToUs∂icipant_name=AdminContact∂icipant_emailaddress=info/@cdi-sxm.comdomainname=handismart.orgresponse=ykey=598290147requestfor=DomTrfRegToUsrvid=4457 I get Invalid URL. (note that this is not the 404 error, but an error message from the myorderbox website.) C This is what TB receives even with AV disabled: C http://info216259.myorderbox.com/linkhandler/servlet/ConfirmRfaServlet?rfaid=2849736type=DomTrfRegToUs?icipant_name=AdminContact?icipant_emailaddress=i...@cdi-sxm.comdomainname=handismart.orgresponse=ykey=598290147requestfor=DomTrfRegToUsrvid=4457 Here the error message says Invalid RFA type. In the first URL, there is participant in the first part, which ends with a . I can imagine that there should have been a at the beginning of the line, and the URL that follows after the is the one that TB! uses. YOu copies this manually from an HTML mail? -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.2.44 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: is v.4.2.42 truncated urls in the body?
Hello Thomas and everyone else who tried to assist. The link is invalid because it has now expired. The platform developer blames TB and TB has not been able to solve it or acknowledge there is even a problem. So on it goes ad infinitum. The fact that the problem is not present when I read the link as a plain text webmail, proves that the link is not tampered with until it is received by TB. The AV does alter it. Using the unique matematical entity of part; does not help things either. I set the character set translatioon to UTF-8 only and in plain text view mode. What else can I do except start getting email for this operation only on webmail and then manually downloading it after the link is used? Michael On Saturday, April 2, 2011, 2:22:57 AM, Thomas Fernandez wrote: Hello CDIsxm, On Fri, 1 Apr 2011 10:34:02 -0400 GMT (01/Apr/11, 21:34 PM +0700 GMT), CDIsxm wrote: If it's not a confidential link, could you post it here? C This is what it should look like: C http://info216259.myorderbox.com/linkhandler/servlet/ConfirmRfaServlet?rfaid=2849736type=DomTrfRegToUs∂icipant_name=AdminContact∂icipant_emailaddress=info/@cdi-sxm.comdomainname=handismart.orgresponse=ykey=598290147requestfor=DomTrfRegToUsrvid=4457'http://info216259.myorderbox.com/linkhandler/servlet/ConfirmRfaServlet?rfaid=2849736type=DomTrfRegToUs∂icipant_name=AdminContact∂icipant_emailaddress=info/@cdi-sxm.comdomainname=handismart.orgresponse=ykey=598290147requestfor=DomTrfRegToUsrvid=4457 I get Invalid URL. (note that this is not the 404 error, but an error message from the myorderbox website.) C This is what TB receives even with AV disabled: C http://info216259.myorderbox.com/linkhandler/servlet/ConfirmRfaServlet?rfaid=2849736type=DomTrfRegToUs?icipant_name=AdminContact?icipant_emailaddress=i...@cdi-sxm.comdomainname=handismart.orgresponse=ykey=598290147requestfor=DomTrfRegToUsrvid=4457 Here the error message says Invalid RFA type. In the first URL, there is participant in the first part, which ends with a . I can imagine that there should have been a at the beginning of the line, and the URL that follows after the is the one that TB! uses. YOu copies this manually from an HTML mail? -- Best regards, CDIsxmmailto:cdi...@thebat.net Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: is v.4.2.42 truncated urls in the body?
Hello Thomas, to all who tried to help. It's a lost casue. The platform provider says its TB. I will just contune gettin gthe links form webmail. -- Best regards, CDIsxmmailto:cdi...@thebat.net Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: is v.4.2.42 truncated urls in the body?
Hello Thomas, to all who tried to help. It's a lost casue. The platform provider says its TB. I will just contune gettin gthe links form webmail. -- Best regards, CDIsxmmailto:cdi...@thebat.net Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: is v.4.2.42 truncated urls in the body?
Hello CDIsxm, On Sat, 2 Apr 2011 14:26:05 -0400 GMT (03/Apr/11, 1:26 AM +0700 GMT), CDIsxm wrote: C to all who tried to help. It's a lost casue. The platform provider C says its TB. I will just contune gettin gthe links form webmail. Sorry to hear the platform provider's opinion. In fact, I never heard about this problem before and it does not seem to point to TB! for me. And I am very vocal about any shortcomings I perceive with TheBat!, you should see my postings on the beta list g. Alas, what can we do. -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.2.44 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: is v.4.2.42 truncated urls in the body?
Dear David, @2-Apr-2011, 20:01 David Elliott [DE] in mid:24585208.20110402200...@elliott.uk.com said to CDIsxm: to all who tried to help. It's a lost casue. The platform provider says its TB. I will just contune gettin gthe links form webmail. DE Sorry IMHO they are wrong. DE The URL is incorrect as it does not conform to RFC 1738. The two characters DE that are not encoded but should be are [/] and [@]. They are reserved DE characters and are being used out of there 'reserved character' context. Further to that, TB is one of the few email clients that can be 100% trusted (in plain text view) not to change anything in the message body. If there is tampering with the URL, it is being down by a routing MTA (transit mail server) or by an anti-virus message scourer. TB has faults, but this is not one of them. -- Cheers -- Marck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v5.0.6 on Windows 7 6.1.7600 ' pgpblbhD79PvR.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: is v.4.2.42 truncated urls in the body?
Hello Thomas, Thanks for coming to my rescue. On Thursday, March 31, 2011, 6:20:05 PM, Thomas Fernandez wrote: Hello CDIsxm, On Wed, 30 Mar 2011 11:11:04 -0400 GMT (30/Mar/11, 22:11 PM +0700 GMT), CDIsxm wrote: C My incoming messages have partially truncated URLs in C the body. I can grab the mail off the server in Horde and it not C altered, but when I download it to TB is scrambles parts of the C link. I turned off AV and it makes no difference. This is surprising, as it is a strength of TB! that URLs are not scrambled and broken when longer than a line. However, I haven't received a long link with a 4.2.x version, so something might be broken. If it's not a confidential link, could you post it here? This is what it should look like: http://info216259.myorderbox.com/linkhandler/servlet/ConfirmRfaServlet?rfaid=2849736type=DomTrfRegToUsparticipant_name=AdminContactparticipant_emailaddress=info/@cdi-sxm.comdomainname=handismart.orgresponse=ykey=598290147requestfor=DomTrfRegToUsrvid=4457'http://info216259.myorderbox.com/linkhandler/servlet/ConfirmRfaServlet?rfaid=2849736type=DomTrfRegToUsparticipant_name=AdminContactparticipant_emailaddress=info/@cdi-sxm.comdomainname=handismart.orgresponse=ykey=598290147requestfor=DomTrfRegToUsrvid=4457 This is what TB receives even with AV disabled: http://info216259.myorderbox.com/linkhandler/servlet/ConfirmRfaServlet?rfaid=2849736type=DomTrfRegToUs?icipant_name=AdminContact?icipant_emailaddress=i...@cdi-sxm.comdomainname=handismart.orgresponse=ykey=598290147requestfor=DomTrfRegToUsrvid=4457 C Is any one aware of this and what if any settings could be causing C this behavior,or ia an undocumented feature? If I understand your problem correctly, it appears to be undesired behaviour. very much THanks in advance. -- Best regards, CDIsxmmailto:cdi...@thebat.net Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: is v.4.2.42 truncated urls in the body?
On Wed, 30 Mar 2011 11:11:04 -0400 GMT (30/Mar/11, 22:11 PM +0700 GMT), CDIsxm wrote: C My incoming messages have partially truncated URLs in C the body. I can grab the mail off the server in Horde and it not C altered, but when I download it to TB is scrambles parts of the C link. I turned off AV and it makes no difference. This is surprising, as it is a strength of TB! that URLs are not scrambled and broken when longer than a line. However, I haven't received a long link with a 4.2.x version, so something might be broken. If it's not a confidential link, could you post it here? This is what it should look like: http://info216259.myorderbox.com/linkhandler/servlet/ConfirmRfaServlet?rfaid=2849736type=DomTrfRegToUsparticipant_name=AdminContactparticipant_emailaddress=info/@cdi-sxm.comdomainname=handismart.orgresponse=ykey=598290147requestfor=DomTrfRegToUsrvid=4457'http://info216259.myorderbox.com/linkhandler/servlet/ConfirmRfaServlet?rfaid=2849736type=DomTrfRegToUsparticipant_name=AdminContactparticipant_emailaddress=info/@cdi-sxm.comdomainname=handismart.orgresponse=ykey=598290147requestfor=DomTrfRegToUsrvid=4457 7 This is what TB receives even with AV disabled: http://info216259.myorderbox.com/linkhandler/servlet/ConfirmRfaServlet?rfaid=2849736type=DomTrfRegToUs?icipant_name=AdminContact?icipant_emailaddress=i...@cdi-sxm.comdomainname=handismart.orgresponse=ykey=598290147requestfor=DomTrfRegToUsrvid=4457 7 This looks correct to me.What you're seeing there is the same URL twice, the first is probably within brackets (though the first isn't shown here), but it's clearly breaking the URL at the close ' which should be correct. A problem I am seeing is that it appears to be converting the substring part into ? which is bad because the question mark character is supposed to separate the URL from parameters and now you have multiple question mark characters in the URL string. Like David said, this could be a problem with the encoding. You could also put some blame on the site that generated that URL, $part; is an HTML entity and shouldn't appear in a URL unless it is expected to be converted to the appropriate character. -- -Sam Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: is v.4.2.42 truncated urls in the body?
Hello David, thx for thew confirmation. On Friday, April 1, 2011, 11:04:40 AM, David Elliott wrote: Dear CDIsxm, On Fri, 1 Apr 2011, at 10:34:02 [which was on Friday at 15:34 where I live] you wrote: C My incoming messages have partially truncated URLs in the body. I can C grab the mail off the server in Horde and it not altered, but when I C download it to TB is scrambles parts of the link. I turned off AV and it C makes no difference. This is surprising, as it is a strength of TB! that URLs are not scrambled and broken when longer than a line. However, I haven't received a long link with a 4.2.x version, so something might be broken. If it's not a confidential link, could you post it here? This is what it should look like: http://info216259.myorderbox.com/linkhandler/servlet/ConfirmRfaServlet?rfaid=2849736type=DomTrfRegToUs∂icipant_name=AdminContact∂icipant_emailaddress=info/@cdi-sxm.comdomainname=handismart.orgresponse=ykey=598290147requestfor=DomTrfRegToUsrvid=4457'http://info216259.myorderbox.com/linkhandler/servlet/ConfirmRfaServlet?rfaid=2849736type=DomTrfRegToUs∂icipant_name=AdminContact∂icipant_emailaddress=info/@cdi-sxm.comdomainname=handismart.orgresponse=ykey=598290147requestfor=DomTrfRegToUsrvid=4457 This is what TB receives even with AV disabled: http://info216259.myorderbox.com/linkhandler/servlet/ConfirmRfaServlet?rfaid=2849736type=DomTrfRegToUs?icipant_name=AdminContact?icipant_emailaddress=i...@cdi-sxm.comdomainname=handismart.orgresponse=ykey=598290147requestfor=DomTrfRegToUsrvid=4457 Confirmed however I think that the query string is not properly encoded. -- Best regards, CDIsxmmailto:cdi...@thebat.net Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: is v.4.2.42 truncated urls in the body?
I'm not going to even try to echo the urls since I don't want to further corrupt the evidence. What I noticed in David Elliot's response (that I received) was that the portions of the url in CDIsxm's message which were ...part... were changed into the math character for a partial differential. Oddly, the reply by Sam Brown to the same message did NOT replace the ...part... with anything. Sam and David are both apparently using TB 4.2.42. CDIsxm's and Sam's messages were encoded in us-ascii while David's was encoded in UTF-8. Also, I noticed that anytime I tried to copy and paste the partial differential character it changed into a ?. I don't know where the corruption is occurring, but I hope this information helps. -- Bill McQuillan bill.mcquil...@pobox.com Using The Bat! 2.11 on Windows XP 5.1 build 2600-Service Pack 2 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: is v.4.2.42 truncated urls in the body?
Hello David, On Friday, April 1, 2011, 11:04:40 AM, David Elliott wrote: Dear CDIsxm, On Fri, 1 Apr 2011, at 10:34:02 [which was on Friday at 15:34 where I live] you wrote: C My incoming messages have partially truncated URLs in the body. I can C grab the mail off the server in Horde and it not altered, but when I C download it to TB is scrambles parts of the link. I turned off AV and it C makes no difference. This is surprising, as it is a strength of TB! that URLs are not scrambled and broken when longer than a line. However, I haven't received a long link with a 4.2.x version, so something might be broken. If it's not a confidential link, could you post it here? This is what it should look like: http://info216259.myorderbox.com/linkhandler/servlet/ConfirmRfaServlet?rfaid=2849736type=DomTrfRegToUs∂icipant_name=AdminContact∂icipant_emailaddress=info/@cdi-sxm.comdomainname=handismart.orgresponse=ykey=598290147requestfor=DomTrfRegToUsrvid=4457'http://info216259.myorderbox.com/linkhandler/servlet/ConfirmRfaServlet?rfaid=2849736type=DomTrfRegToUs∂icipant_name=AdminContact∂icipant_emailaddress=info/@cdi-sxm.comdomainname=handismart.orgresponse=ykey=598290147requestfor=DomTrfRegToUsrvid=4457 This is what TB receives even with AV disabled: http://info216259.myorderbox.com/linkhandler/servlet/ConfirmRfaServlet?rfaid=2849736type=DomTrfRegToUs?icipant_name=AdminContact?icipant_emailaddress=i...@cdi-sxm.comdomainname=handismart.orgresponse=ykey=598290147requestfor=DomTrfRegToUsrvid=4457 Confirmed however I think that the query string is not properly encoded. -- Best regards, CDIsxmmailto:cdi...@thebat.net Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: is v.4.2.42 truncated urls in the body?
Hello Bill, I have utf-8 and us-ascii checked. Just changed it to utf-8 only, but I tried that already with the same result. I have now contacted the platform provider, but I don't expect they will shift formats to suit me and TB. Not even sure this problem is confined to TB. It certainly does not get changed when I receive the mail from Horde webmail. on Friday, April 1, 2011, 12:39:41 PM, Bill McQuillan wrote: I'm not going to even try to echo the urls since I don't want to further corrupt the evidence. What I noticed in David Elliot's response (that I received) was that the portions of the url in CDIsxm's message which were ...part... were changed into the math character for a partial differential. Oddly, the reply by Sam Brown to the same message did NOT replace the ...part... with anything. Sam and David are both apparently using TB 4.2.42. CDIsxm's and Sam's messages were encoded in us-ascii while David's was encoded in UTF-8. Also, I noticed that anytime I tried to copy and paste the partial differential character it changed into a ?. I don't know where the corruption is occurring, but I hope this information helps. -- Best regards, CDIsxmmailto:cdi...@thebat.net Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: is v.4.2.42 truncated urls in the body?
Hello Bill, snip ... Oddly, the reply by Sam Brown to the same message did NOT replace the ...part... with anything. So what encoding does Sam Brown use and I will see if we can use the same. -- Best regards, CDIsxmmailto:cdi...@thebat.net Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: is v.4.2.42 truncated urls in the body?
Hello CDIsxm, On Wed, 30 Mar 2011 11:11:04 -0400 GMT (30/Mar/11, 22:11 PM +0700 GMT), CDIsxm wrote: C My incoming messages have partially truncated URLs in C the body. I can grab the mail off the server in Horde and it not C altered, but when I download it to TB is scrambles parts of the C link. I turned off AV and it makes no difference. This is surprising, as it is a strength of TB! that URLs are not scrambled and broken when longer than a line. However, I haven't received a long link with a 4.2.x version, so something might be broken. If it's not a confidential link, could you post it here? C Is any one aware of this and what if any settings could be causing C this behavior,or ia an undocumented feature? If I understand your problem correctly, it appears to be undesired behaviour. -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.2.44 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
