Re: maybe I'm dense but...
On Monday, April 1, 2002, at 03:35:41 [GMT +0100] (which was 4:35 where I live) John Galvin wrote: JG The only disadvantage i see with this, is when i go to compose a JG normal window, and i click on the AB to insert someones email JG address, I am confronted with all the spammers addresses. This can easily be avoided. Assuming you use only one addressbook for your autocomplete and don't depend on information in the LDAP-styled address books, you can simply create a new Address Book for the spammers and define a group 'Spammers' there. Then in the filter you can refer to that group (you need the group because the filter works with groups, not address books). In Options-Preferences-System you set autocomplete to work only from the standard addressbook (assigned to the account) and optionally include the input history. -- Greetings, Maurice ICQ: 15724776 | WWW: http://www.kiap.org/ Using The Bat! v1.60c on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: maybe I'm dense but...
Gene Gough [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... What I have found best is having a filer for each of the various list groups I listen to that looks at the TO field to divert them to the associated folder. Then next to the last filter is one that requires only that the sender be in my address book and if so, that mail goes into the standard INBOX. The final filter is the inverse of that. Any message this far down the chain and not in the address book goes to the Unknown or spam filter. ... I do something similar. But a question... Your last two filters work like this: 1) filter all mail with recognized addresses to the inbox. 2) filter anything else to the spam box. What is your thinking in using these double filters as opposed to: 1) filter all mail with unrecognized addresses to the spam box, while all other mail falls off the end of the filter list into the inbox. Just wondering if I've missed some subtlety here... :) -- Dave Goodman The Bat! v1.60c on Windows 98 Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: maybe I'm dense but...
I think it works just as well. I wasn't exactly sure how well the filters were working as I had one fall through that never should have. I set up the double check and have just left it that way. Monday, April 1, 2002, 3:49:37 PM, Dave wrote: 1) filter all mail with unrecognized addresses to the spam box, while all other mail falls off the end of the filter list into the inbox. Just wondering if I've missed some subtlety here... :) -- Genemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Windows 2000 [version 5.0.2195] Mail Client: THE BAT 1.60c Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: maybe I'm dense but...
I did similar to what you are doing but soon realized that the change the sending ID very often just to defeat that method. What I have found best is having a filer for each of the various list groups I listen to that looks at the TO field to divert them to the associated folder. Then next to the last filter is one that requires only that the sender be in my address book and if so, that mail goes into the standard INBOX. The final filter is the inverse of that. Any message this far down the chain and not in the address book goes to the Unknown or spam filter. About 90 percent of the mail that ends up in that filer truly is spam. The remaining are senders that I don't have in my address book and won't put there but not really spam. For that reason I have to give a casual glance at the folder contents prior to trashing them. This has worked very well and I don't have to continue to added ID's to a spam filter. Sunday, March 31, 2002, 9:35:41 PM, John wrote: Hello Ottar, Saturday, March 30, 2002, 1:32:18 PM, you wrote: OG Another strategy is to make an address book group for all your OG spammers. You just highligh the spam message, rightclick and select OG specials, add to addressbook, and select the spam-group. OG Then you can have a filter that look for @ in sender (every mail OG messages contains this) but under advanced you scroll down and tick OG the box Address must be listed in address book, and select the OG Spam-group. OG This makes makes blocking new spammers as easy as the function in OG Outlook Express (but less precise than the former strategy). A nice suggestion(I am always looking for tricks at making spam disappear). I have one question about this method. I have set up a filter, which will add spammers addresses to a group called Spam(what an imagination, eh??). The only disadvantage i see with this, is when i go to compose a normal window, and i click on the AB to insert someones email address, I am confronted with all the spammers addresses. It is a tad annoying and i was wondering if there was any feature which could exclude a group from the AB when i am composing a regular email. Also, to everyone, I have been using TB for quite a while now. I have messed around with lots of settings and things. One thing I haven't been able to find, is a facility which will allow TB to dial up my connection, download new mail, AT a certain time. Not every X time period. Is this possible to achieve with TB? -- Genemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Windows 2000 [version 5.0.2195] Mail Client: THE BAT 1.60c Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: maybe I'm dense but...
Hello John, Monday, April 1, 2002, 4:35:41 AM, you wrote to TBUDL: JG if there was any feature which could exclude a group from the AB JG when i am composing a regular email. Group properties, tick Hide items if not explicitly selected -- Best regards, Ottar Grimstad, Norway http://home.online.no/~ottgrims Using The Bat! 1.60c on Windows 98 version 4,10 Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: maybe I'm dense but...
Hello Daf, Saturday, March 30, 2002, 11:12:01 AM, you wrote to TBUDL: D What I've been doing is to highlight the unwanted e-mail in my D inbox, then go to Specials create filter - then check box D that says sender - Then use for incoming - then send to D trash. But this does not appear to be working correctly for me. D As a test I set one up to work with this list and I still get the D list in my inbox. If you study the headers, you will see that the From-field for TBUDL-messages contains the original emailaddress of the sender, not the list address. This is contained in the Reply-to field. Therefore you have made a filter that sends not all mail from TBUDL to trash, but only mail from the writer of the message you highlighted. This strategy also creates a separate filter for each spammer, and this can make your filter list very long. Consider making a filter called Spam and make trash the destination folder. Open the Sorting Office (Ctr-Shift-S) With Incoming mail highlighted, press New Give it name, select destination folder, and enter the filtering string. When you shall add another spammer, click the Alternatives set and click Add new. For each new spammer you just add a new alternative. Consider checking out all of the haeders in the offending mail (Ctr-Alt-K) and use the emailaddress in Reply-to field or even domain-name in recieved from, instead of only the From-address (which is often faked and replaced with a new address the next time). Then you must select Kludges instead of Sender in the filter. Kludges looks for the string in all of the headers. Another strategy is to make an address book group for all your spammers. You just highligh the spam message, rightclick and select specials, add to addressbook, and select the spam-group. Then you can have a filter that look for @ in sender (every mail messages contains this) but under advanced you scroll down and tick the box Address must be listed in address book, and select the Spam-group. This makes makes blocking new spammers as easy as the function in Outlook Express (but less precise than the former strategy). -- Best regards, Ottar Grimstad, Norway http://home.online.no/~ottgrims Using The Bat! 1.60c on Windows 98 version 4,10 Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: maybe I'm dense but...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Ottar, @30 March 2002, 13:32:18 +0100 (12:32 UK time) Ottar Grimstad wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] This makes makes blocking new spammers as easy as the function in Outlook Express (but less precise than the former strategy). Of course, spammers seldom originate from the same address twice these days. The simplest and most effective spam filter is the Sherlock (process of elimination) method as originally suggested by Steve Lamb and explained by Allie Martin: - ---8 The easiest way to get rid of spam is by first excluding all mail that is legitimately for you and then simply considering the rest spam. With this method you hardly ever get legitimate mail ending up in the spam folder or spam ending up in the inbox. Order is important since TB processes filters from the top down. First create filters for all your regular legitimate mail. Then create a filter to place all other messages addressed to you in the inbox or some other created 'sundry' folder. Then create the spam filter, which should be the last filter in the list. Set it up to place the rest of messages that do not satisfy any of the other previous filter rules in a spam folder. Typically this will be: String: e, location: Kludges, Presence: Yes. With this setup I assure you that your inbox will be clean. Very few spammers address messages directly to you and that's the reason why this method works so well. If the message is not from x, y, z, etc or it's not addressed directly to me, then it MUST be spam. :) You can very likely add some general spam filters for spam messages addressed to you based on subject content. - ---8 - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.60c-14F4B4B2 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ยท -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6-2 (MingW32) iD8DBQE8pbT2OeQkq5KdzaARAnzuAJ4qf+d8d/eLT8h6doStilnrxRQhEgCg1Aqm RuVBswwktT4z6IPGEpJY8Fw= =evNS -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
