Re: putting identical subject line in multiple e-mails

2005-08-26 Thread sacksa
Regarding my earlier question as to whether the - at the end of a string 
was part of the code or just intended to setoff the code from the rest of 
the posting, Roelof Otten said that it removed a blank line.  I couldn't 
see that in his e-mails, even in his last example, because I couldn't 
directly compare the two examples, scrolling from one to the other, I 
didn't actually see the shortened space between the greeting and body 
text. 

However, when I tried this at home, and created two templates, one with 
and without the - and could toggle back and forth between them, the 
difference was obvious. 

So, once again, thanks, Roelof,  for the advice.  The e-mails have been 
sent.  Now, the next step is to do that upgrade...

All the best,

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Re: putting identical subject line in multiple e-mails

2005-08-25 Thread Robert C Wittig
Hello sacksa,

Thursday, August 25, 2005, 2:56:56 PM, you wrote:

scc Is there a way to insert an identical subject line in 140 e-mails, without 
scc having to do so individually?

scc I am about to notify all those in my address book of an e-mail address 
scc change.  I dutifully followed instructions to create a template message 
scc and have put all of the messages in the outbox, ready to go.  However, I 
scc didn't see anywhere in the template box an option to insert a subject 
scc line.   I don't want to send these announcements with a blank subject 
scc line.  So, is there a way to put an identical subject line in each of 
scc these messages without having to do so individually?

Why not just send a single email to everyone, with their addresses in
the Bcc: field, and your email address in the To: field?

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Re: putting identical subject line in multiple e-mails

2005-08-25 Thread sacksa
Robert C Wittig [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 08/25/2005  at 04:02 PM
asks in response to my Q about how to insert an identical subject line in 
multiple e-mails:

Why not just send a single email to everyone, with their addresses in
the Bcc: field, and your email address in the To: field?

The last time I tried to do that, my ISP (ATT,  which has since been 
acquired by Comcast, which is still my ISP) had a limit on the number of 
recipients that could receive any one e-mail.  One customer service 
representatives claimed that limit to be anywhere from 25, another didn't 
know what the limit was but they all agreed that once the limit was 
reached, I would have to wait a half hour before I could send out the same 
message again to more recipients.  They claimed the purpose was to prevent 
their customers from e-mailing spam.  By sending out multiple messages to 
individual recipients, when I previously notified friends, family, and 
associates of an e-mail address change, I was able to get around the 
multiple recipient rule. 

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Re: putting identical subject line in multiple e-mails

2005-08-25 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Avram,

On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 14:56:56 -0500GMT (25-8-2005, 21:56 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

S I am about to notify all those in my address book of an e-mail address
S change.  I dutifully followed instructions to create a template message
S and have put all of the messages in the outbox, ready to go.  However, I
S didn't see anywhere in the template box an option to insert a subject 
S line.   I don't want to send these announcements with a blank subject 
S line.

Insert something like this in your template.
%Subject=I'm changing my e-mail address. (again sigh)%-
Your free to deviate from my text, of course. g

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Re: putting identical subject line in multiple e-mails

2005-08-25 Thread sacksa
To recap, I had inquired:

S I am about to notify all those in my address book of an e-mail address
S change.  I dutifully followed instructions to create a template message
S and have put all of the messages in the outbox, ready to go.  However, 
I
S didn't see anywhere in the template box an option to insert a subject 
S line... 

To which, Roelof Otten [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 08/25/2005 at 05:17 PM responded:

Insert something like this in your template.
%Subject=I'm changing my e-mail address. (again sigh)%-
Your free to deviate from my text, of course. g

Thanks Roelof.   It was actually your instructions from Feb. 2003 that I 
followed.  (There are indeed advantages to not deleting e-mail!) Not to 
put to fine a line on it, but just to be certain, do I need to insert a 
hyphen after the % sign in the template as your message shows, or did you 
insert the hyphen merely as a style mark?

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Re: putting identical subject line in multiple e-mails

2005-08-25 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Avram,

On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 17:50:24 -0500GMT (26-8-2005, 0:50 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

S Not to put to fine a line on it, but just to be certain, do I need
S to insert a hyphen after the % sign in the template as your message
S shows, or did you insert the hyphen merely as a style mark?

You don't really need to place %- at the end of the macro. But:
%Subject=I'm changing my e-mail address. (again sigh)
will insert this line in the subject header:
I'm changing my e-mail address. (again sigh)
But as it doesn't insert anything in the message body, it'll leave an
empty line. And that empty line is negated by the %- macro.
In so far you could call it a style mark. ;-)

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Re: putting identical subject line in multiple e-mails

2005-08-25 Thread sacksa
Roelof Otten [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 08/25/2005 at 06:01 PM wrote:

You don't really need to place %- at the end of the macro. But:
%Subject=I'm changing my e-mail address. (again sigh)
will insert this line in the subject header:
I'm changing my e-mail address. (again sigh)
But as it doesn't insert anything in the message body, it'll leave an
empty line. And that empty line is negated by the %- macro.
In so far you could call it a style mark. ;-)

I was asking if the - was a style mark for *your* note, and I surmise 
you are telling me that it is a style mark for the template.

This is beginning to sound like an Abbot and Costello routine.

OK.

Let's say I want to send a note that says, Hi.  We are changing are 
e-mail address from [EMAIL PROTECTED] to [EMAIL PROTECTED] effective 
immediately.

To insure that that text is put into the template, along with a subject 
line, would the entire text that goes into the template be the following?

%Subject=E-mail address change. (again sigh)%-
Hi.  We are changing our e-mail address from [EMAIL PROTECTED] to 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] effective immediately.

In other words, absent the second % sign and hyphen, would the 
subsequent text in the template just be ignored?
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Re: putting identical subject line in multiple e-mails

2005-08-25 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Avram,

On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 18:25:15 -0500GMT (26-8-2005, 1:25 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

S In other words, absent the second % sign and hyphen, would the 
S subsequent text in the template just be ignored?

No, it would be preceded by an empty line.

Hello %-
Everybody,
will give you 
Hello Everybody,

When don't you place the %- macro at the end of the line, it will be ignored:
My name is %-Roelof
results in:
My name is Roelof

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Re: putting identical subject line in multiple e-mails

2005-08-25 Thread sacksa
I had previously written the following:

S In other words, absent the second % sign and hyphen, would the 
S subsequent text in the template just be ignored?

To which Roelof replied:

No, it would be preceded by an empty line.

Hello %-
Everybody,
will give you 
Hello Everybody,

When don't you place the %- macro at the end of the line, it will be 
ignored:
My name is %-Roelof
results in:
My name is Roelof


Sorry, Roelof, but I am still confused.  (Maybe it's because it's late, 
I'm tired, etc. etc.)

In your first example I don't see an empty line.  Your example suggests 
that 

Hello %-
Everybody

and 

Hello %-Everybody

will both yield:
Hello Everybody

Bottom line, my question is, To insure that subject text goes into the 
subject line and that message text goes into the message body, how do I 
craft the template?   If e-mail address change. (again sigh) is the 
subject and Hi.  We are changing  is the message body, is the 
following correct?

%Subject=E-mail address change. (again sigh)%-
Hi.  We are changing our e-mail address from [EMAIL PROTECTED] to 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] effective immediately.

Or, do I need to do something differently?

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Re: putting identical subject line in multiple e-mails

2005-08-25 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Avram,

On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 18:57:03 -0500GMT (26-8-2005, 1:57 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

S Sorry, Roelof, but I am still confused.  (Maybe it's because it's late,
S I'm tired, etc. etc.)

Over here it's supposed to be later than where you are. g,dr

S In your first example I don't see an empty line.

Let's take this QT as an example:

=
Hello %ABtoFIRSTNAME=%TOFNAME,

  My e-mail address has changed to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Change this in your address book, please

--
Greetings, %FromFName
==

Now you'd like to insert a From address, a reply-to header and a
subject. You'd do that with this alterations:

=
Hello %ABtoFIRSTNAME=%TOFNAME,
%From='My Name MyAddress'
%Reply-To=Another address
%Subject=Everything's better than a blank line

  My e-mail address has changed to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Change this in your address book, please

--
Greetings, %FromFName
==

Apart from the headers this would give you:


=
Hello recipient,





  My e-mail address has changed to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Change this in your address book, please

--
Greetings, Avram
==

But the use of the %- macro would skip those empty lines:

=
Hello %ABtoFIRSTNAME=%TOFNAME,
%From='My Name MyAddress'%-
%Reply-To=Another address%-
%Subject=Everything's better than a blank line%-

  My e-mail address has changed to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Change this in your address book, please

--
Greetings, %FromFName
==

As the above QT would give:

=
Hello recipient,

  My e-mail address has changed to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Change this in your address book, please

--
Greetings, Avram
==
And some headers, of course.

I hope this makes things clear

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