Re[2]: 1.60m - State of the art?

2002-05-31 Thread Joseph N.

 Dierk Haasis wrote on Friday, May 31, 2002:

 Solange man bewundern und lieben kann, ist man immer jung. (Pablo
 Casals)

Willing to provide a translation?



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Re[2]: 1.60m - State of the art?

2002-05-31 Thread Joseph N.

Danke.

JN

 Mrten wrote on Friday, May 31, 2002:

 Solange man bewundern und lieben kann, ist man immer jung. (Pablo
 Casals)

 As long as one can love and admire, one is ever young (of heart).



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Re: Re[2]: 1.60m - State of the art?

2002-05-31 Thread Ray Dawson

In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
   Carren Stuart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 MDP If you have then I think it wasn't TB leaking! It only leaks on
 Win2k
 MDP and XP - CMIIW.


 I am afraid that I have serious doubts about this. I am also running
 98 and since upgrading to v.m have been experiencing *weird* problems
 similar to some of those mentioned by others. Sometimes the TB! window
 doesn't re-draw properly and dialogue boxes etc sometimes *hang
 around* in a kind of shadow state for a few seconds after closing
 them. This can be menu lists or anything which generally stay behind
 as a white square/rectangle for a short time before finally
 disappearing as they should.

I have had this with 1.60m on both Windows ME and XP

Cheers,

Ray D



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Re[2]: 1.60m - State of the art?

2002-05-31 Thread Carren Stuart

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On Friday, 31 May 2002 at 9:38 p.m. Marck wrote: 


MDP FYI - the bad wrapping above is caused by allowing GPGShell to
MDP reformat the message when signing. For the best results, turn off
MDP wrapping in the GGPShell preferences when using GPG with TB.

The moment I hit *send* I realised that I had forgotten to reformat
the quoted text, which is something I always do. As long as I remember
to do that, I have no problems with wrapping.

Turning off wrap in GPG does work of course but it is frustrating when
you are using GPG with other applications as you then have to keep
remembering to toggle the wrap settings on or off. I have adopted
Melissa'a wrap settings for TB!, PGP and GPG and find that they work
fine with all the things I use in conjunction with signing.

regards

Carren


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Re[2]: 1.60m - State of the art?

2002-05-30 Thread Databug

Hello Marck,
On the 30/05/2002, you babbled on about 1.60m - State of the art? 

MDP If you have then I think it wasn't TB leaking! It only leaks on Win2k
MDP and XP - CMIIW.

 I like to leave theBat running all day, but after using PhotoShop
 and Dreamweaver, suddenly I'm down to 23% resources available!

MDP Then it was one of them that leaked. TB only leaks while you are
MDP *using* it. More specifically it leaks in drips every time you view a
MDP message in the RTV. The simple cure for those afflicted (that includes
MDP me) is to switch to PTV until the fix comes in.

I`m not sure If i get leaks but I do have WinXP. So what is all this
RTV and PTV then? I assume its something view.

That`s all for now

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Re[2]: 1.60m - State of the art?

2002-05-30 Thread Andrea Zuercher

Hello. I posted yesterday about the fact that TB! will not close (ver.
1.60m). It's been suggested to me that it's the memory leak causing
this. I do use Win2k, but I'm not using HTML view at all -- in fact,
I'm using plain-text view -- and yet the problem persists. It was also
suggested that I suspend automated tasks such as automatic mail
checking and auto compress on exit and empty trash on exit, which I
also did, but TB! still refuses to close. I also get Invalid argument
to date encode messages whenever I try to cut and paste text in a
message.

I'm open to more suggestions...

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Re[2]: 1.60m - State of the art?

2002-05-30 Thread Andrea Zuercher

Ah. It was also suggested to me (I love the passive voice!) that I try
an earlier version. But when I went to the Web site, 1.60m was the
only one I found available for download. This is my first run with TB!
so I don't have an .exe file from an earlier version to copy in. So
how would I try an earlier version?

Andrea, just full of questions today | [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 and has never happened before. My question is, how does one revert
 to an earlier installation?

 By acquiring one and installing it over your current version.

DAC actually, you don't have to 'install' anything. just copy the .exe
DAC file from a previous version replacing the one for the current
DAC version.




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Re[2]: 1.60m - State of the art?

2002-05-30 Thread Andrea Zuercher

Thanks, Marck. I migrated from Outlook, not OE, but the migration was
not what I would call smooth by any means. So far the only problem
I've connected with the address book import is that I can't seem to
edit any address book entry that I imported. That didn't seem like a
show-stopper to me. But if it's related to the failure to close down,
then maybe I should do something about it. The question is, what?

Re: the connection centre, I have seen no problems finding my hosts (I
only use two), and there isn't a visible connection timeout problem
taking place in the connection centre when I'm trying to close the
program. In fact, there is nothing visible at all, which makes this
persistent problem quite perplexing to me.

Andrea in Kansas | [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thursday, May 30, 2002, 4:54:50 PM, you wrote:

MDP Unlikely. It is more likely to be connected to communications
MDP errors in the connection centre. If one or more hosts can't be
MDP found, you have to wait for the CC to timeout to be able to exit.

 ... It was also suggested that I suspend automated tasks such as
 automatic mail checking

MDP That's the one!

 and auto compress on exit and empty trash on exit, which I also did,
 but TB! still refuses to close. I also get Invalid argument to date
 encode messages whenever I try to cut and paste text in a message.

MDP Aha! Did you migrate from OE and import the WAB? This error is
MDP usually caused by importing birthdays. For some reason they
MDP knacker the TB Address book. Perhaps the incomplete task is a
MDP hidden error message somewhere complaining about the address book
MDP date format.




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Re[2]: 1.60m - State of the art?

2002-05-30 Thread Bill Blinn, Technology Editor

It seems that Marck D Pearlstone said ...

M Kill the address book and re-import it. As soon as you can. I haven't
M seen the import procedure at all. Does Outlook have an export
M procedure? Perhaps you should export to CSV and import from there. If
M you do so then I should point out that CSV import works best when you
M have a row of headings at the top of the data. I've also heard that
M Outlook's impression of CSV export doesn't match up to what most of us
M techies would call a CSV data file though, so don't take it for
M granted that it will work.

I had a reason to do this a week or two and I eventually got it to
work with only minimal editing. The problem is that I did it so many
times that I forgot how I got from one place to the other. I remember
experimenting with which fields were output and what they were called
when they were output. I might have taken it to or thought Netscape
and at one point it was an LDIF. When I finally got the file imported,
all I had to do was tinker with the groups (they didn't import at
all).

Sorry Andrea and Marck -- I just don't remember which steps I took or
in which order. I do remember that it wasn't neat or easy.


Using The Bat! v1.60m on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 

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Re[2]: 1.60m - State of the art?

2002-05-30 Thread Carren Stuart

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On Friday, 31 May 2002 at 9:06 a.m. Marck wrote: 



MDP If you have then I think it wasn't TB leaking! It only leaks on
Win2k
MDP and XP - CMIIW.


I am afraid that I have serious doubts about this. I am also running
98 and since upgrading to v.m have been experiencing *weird* problems
similar to some of those mentioned by others. Sometimes the TB! window
doesn't re-draw properly and dialogue boxes etc sometimes *hang
around* in a kind of shadow state for a few seconds after closing
them. This can be menu lists or anything which generally stay behind
as a white square/rectangle for a short time before finally
disappearing as they should.

I am also getting many access violation errors from TB! - all of
which has only started since installing the new version. Is it
absolutely certain that these so-called leaks do not affect Win 98?

regards


Carren

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