Re[2]: EOL/EOF Cursor positioning
On Saturday, June 30, 2001, 5:55:24 AM, you wrote: MAC Hmmm, maybe, but if so I'd have to add that the pardigms used by MAC TB! in this case are also not those of Steve Jobs or Linus MAC Torvalds, as the EOL/EOF cursor positioning I descrbied is also MAC standard for Macintosh and all the GUI enhancements for Linus, MAC and any other Unix I've seen, for that matter. TB!'s approach is MAC not totally unique, but _extremely_ unusual, from what I've MAC seen. And very awkward, to me, at least. MDP Let's try to get this a bit more logical. MDP TB uses the paradigm originally introduced by WordStar - a very early MDP word processor - and carried forward into Borland's SideKick product MDP and the source code editors for all Borland IDEs (and many other MDP besides). It is known as a free or floating caret interface and is MDP widely used, but not usually employed in bare text editors or word MDP processors. MDP Its primary purpose is to support point, click and type usage. There's MDP no other way to do that. Yes, it could be made optional for those MDP experiencing culture shock but, once you know its there and have got a MDP little used to it *boy* would you miss it if it were removed! Well, now you're dredging up some ancient memories! I think you may have hit upon the real reason this editing method, and one which I'd totally forgotten, annoys me so much. I used WordStar when it was the only editor available on some of the micros I used in the early 80's when I was primarily a mainframe programmer - and despised every minute of it. Different strokes, as they say. I'd still appreciate an option to make TB!'s editing approach a little more mainstream (no offense intended). At any rate, there's enough stuff I really like about TB! that I can live with the stuff I don't. So, as I said, I'll spend a little more time trying to get used to it - I just wish you hadn't reminded me of WordStar... ;) Mark Chalkley -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: EOL/EOF Cursor positioning
On Friday, June 29, 2001, 4:35:17 PM, you wrote: snip MAC Why is it that clicking past the end of a line in the window of a new MAC message (whether reply or initial) causes the cursor to be positioned MAC at that point and spaces to be inserted on that line instead of MAC putting the cursor at the real EOL. On a related note, using the MAC arrow keys inserts spaces to allow the cursor to be placed at the MAC point the arrow direction is sending it, instead of just stopping at MAC the end of the line/message. DH TB! uses paradigms that are NOT those of Bill Gates. snip Hmmm, maybe, but if so I'd have to add that the pardigms used by TB! in this case are also not those of Steve Jobs or Linus Torvalds, as the EOL/EOF cursor positioning I descrbied is also standard for Macintosh and all the GUI enhancements for Linus, and any other Unix I've seen, for that matter. TB!'s approach is not totally unique, but _extremely_ unusual, from what I've seen. And very awkward, to me, at least. DH Remember that alt+L removes extra spaces w/in the line and that TB! DH has stream, line and column modes. The differences provide functions DH that Windoze customary functions don't. Once I learned what to DH expect I have no problem. The one function I WOULD like to see DH implemented is the crtl+up or down arrow for jumping between DH paragraphs, but even that is easy enough as long as I'm going UP DH (not down) - just use cntrl+L or J and it will put you at the top DH of the paragraph. DH A different mindset is involved. (And remember that TB! is a DH contribution from Moldovia). I appreciate the tips on TB!'s extra features. I'll work with it a while longer before I gripe about it again. Still, the Stream/Column/Line editing features don't require the weird EOL/EOF behavior - check out the excellent text editor UltraEdit for an example. Thanks, Mark Chalkley -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
