Re[2]: Feature Request I'd Like To See in The Bat!

2002-12-28 Thread Spyder
I use multiple email accounts (like 15 or so) with TheBat and would like some
better ways to manage them:
   - make changes to the preferences on a global scale
   - make filters (anti spam mainly) that can reach all accounts with out
   having to make them for each account.
   - have the email checking sequential-able so all the accounts don't check at the
   same time

Scott
Dallas, TX, USA
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Re[2]: Feature Request I'd Like To See in The Bat!

2002-12-27 Thread Mike Alexander
Hello Allie,

Saturday, December 28, 2002, 12:26:40 AM, you wrote:


AM May I suggest some more then. :)

snip a ton of useful advice

AM Hope that helps.

A lot thanks. Up till now my filtering has always been haphazard i.e.
examine the mail, if it's spam, make a filter, but what you've shown
makes much more sense of course :)

And while I'm at it, on the subject of features:

I bought the Bat. I tried it out for 25 days and then purchased (but
I knew by about day 5 I would do so). The Editor takes a bit of
getting used to, but I was transferring from OE and if I wanted the
features of OE I wouldn't have done so. In fact, I much prefer TB.

The only annoying thing is when receiving mail from people who use
OL/OE and use rich text/html. It doesn't bl**dy wrap! It's OK when I'm
reading the mail, but when I try and reply I get 2 or 3 long lines and
I have to keep scrolling across to read what I'm replying too. As yet,
I haven't found a way of solving this dilemma (and I now hope you're
going to tell me exactly what I need to know g)

Generally, there is nothing wrong with having new features but, what I
don't want is the bloated, inaccurate, non-text mail that you get with
the majority of popular email clients. If I did, I wouldn't have
switched from one one the first place. ;-)


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Re[2]: Feature Request I'd Like To See in The Bat!

2002-12-27 Thread Mike Alexander
Hello Allie,

Saturday, December 28, 2002, 2:29:13 AM, you wrote:

snip more useful advice

MA And while I'm at it, on the subject of features:


AM Just move the cursor into each paragraph and hit Alt-L. This will
AM reflow them. You don't have to select the text block to use Alt-l.
AM You only need to have the cursor in the target paragraph, and yes,
AM Alt-L works beautifully on quoted text. It's one of the reasons why
AM I like TB!'s editor so much.

OK, well I hadn't discovered that. Thanks, that's just what I need.

Who needs help files? LOL!


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Re[2]: Feature Request I'd Like To See in The Bat!

2002-12-25 Thread Victor B. Gonzalez
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Hello Dierk,

 Built in calendar with mail scheduling features.
 Anniversaries, Birthdays, Holidays, Business...

DH Scheduling: Concur.
DH Full-blown calendar: No.

You weren't the only one to disagree with a calendar being a
part of The Bat! and every one is entitled to their opinion
without argument but it is just that I see it differently.

I do not want a calendar to simply be a part of the client
for non e-mail task management purposes or because most
major players already incorporate one.

My life revolves around e-mail, scheduling, reminders,
broadcast, etc and I would surely appreciate a client which
can ease the work for me by removing a lot of the redundancy.

 I would also like to see support for newsgroups which should
 be somewhat a standard for mail clients.

DH It was said his will come via plug-in with v2.
DH I'd prefer TB stays an e-mail client. News is much more than mail and
DH there are at least two good news clients on the market (Gravity and
DH Agent, even Free Agent is very good).

I was completely use to participating in newsgroups using
clients like outlook and Mozilla and I have grown to expect
such features without question.

For me personally I respect newsgroups and if they never die
neither then will my participation in them. Combining the
two made it easy to copy, paste and/or forward good and
critical information when necessary.

I still use Mozillas Calendar and e-mail/newsgroup client to
stay on top of scheduling and knowledge trades.

 Extract information from the body and sort to address book
 or to file.

DH Isn't that possible with RegEx?

Not like I am thinking about it. Did you ever code and along
the left side of your editor theres a number for every line?
I collect information using on-line forms and the information
sent to my e-mail is the same every time.

 line 13: Users IP
 line 14: First Name
 line 15: etc
 line 16: referrers address

I would like to say to the bat if this message matches this
filter then extract, line 13, line 14 and line 15 and reply
with a certain address (not my default) and e-mail line 16.

 I can imagine RegEx has the features but I am no geek
 and I am not stupid but little by little I am sure the
 bat team can add more usability filtering and macros.

 Reply without using default reply address but templates reply
 address.

DH I may misunderstand this, but isn't that what AB templates (perhaps in
DH conjunction with QTs) are for?

The Bat is awesome and does have some major player features
but what I am asking for I guess is account or alias
creation on the fly.

My default account is ooo but if a message sent to my inbox
is for xxx then reply with xxx.

I am really happy you concurred with everything else :)

The above are my opinions and my opinions alone. The Bat! is
awesome but I found out early that loyalty can kill you. The
second a newer and better application comes along I ride the
wave out until a better one surfaces.

No one pays me to stick around so if I have to pay I will
keep an open mind with my head up :)

Just another opinion :)

Merry Christmas  Happy Holidays Everyone!

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Re[2]: Feature Request I'd Like To See in The Bat!

2002-12-24 Thread Mike Alexander
Hello Victor,

Wednesday, December 25, 2002, 1:28:12 AM, you wrote:

VBG Since we're talking about feature request I've got a few.
VBG Built in calendar with mail scheduling features.
VBG Anniversaries, Birthdays, Holidays, Business...

VBG I would also like to see support for newsgroups which should
VBG be somewhat a standard for mail clients.

ISTM, that what you want is Outlook/Outlook Express ;-)

One of the reasons I changed to TB was precisely because it *didn't*
have a calendar, ng support (for which I use Agent) and all the other
bells and whistles. I *don't* want everything integrated in one client
with a kitchen sink load of extras that have nothing to do with mail
collection, reading and transmission.

VBG I would like to see better, more versatile support for
VBG templates  filters. i.e.

Here, I have to agree. I've been using it for 3 months now and I still
can't make a filter that will block a specific domain, a specific
country prefix, anything that isn't addressed to me, etc. And I can't
find any help anywhere that makes any sense to me. And when I asked
people here, no-one replied. So, yes, I'd like a *lot* of help from the
program with filtering so I can stop being drowned every day in spam I
can't block.  Templates don't matter quite so much to me as I only
have c. 100 or so people/businesses that I have regular contact with
and I find the templates fairly easy to set up (Yes, I know, I can do
templates so why can't I do filters - I keep asking myself that
question g).

Anyway, it gave me a chance to rant ;)

Would it be Feliz Navidad?

Anyway, a Merry whatever to everyone!

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Re[2]: Feature Request I'd Like To See in The Bat!

2002-12-24 Thread Mike Alexander
Hello Allie,

Wednesday, December 25, 2002, 1:58:26 AM, you wrote:

AM In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED],
AM Mike Alexander [MA] wrote:'

MA Here, I have to agree. I've been using it for 3 months now and I
MA still can't make a filter that will block a specific domain,

AM .*@domain name

AM For example, if I wanted to filter all mail from addresses using the
AM domain name hotmail.com, I'd just use the filter string:

AM 'hotmail.com'  in the sender address.

AM You can use the same filter string in the selective downloads
AM filter.

MA a specific country prefix, anything that isn't addressed to me,
MA etc.

AM your e-mail address

AM recipient

AM presence - No

MA And I can't find any help anywhere that makes any sense to me.
MA And when I asked people here, no-one replied.

AM For those two specific questions? Strange.


Thank you so much.  I have been trying things like *domain.com and
variations using * as a wild card, but it's never seemed to work. i
don't know why. I did guess that my mail addy/recipient/presence No
would be a way of blocking or deleting on server and I have that at
the top of my sorting office list. But it doesn't seem to be doing
anything. I'm glad I wasn't as terminally dense as I thought g  but
I can't understand why it's not working. Can I just ask if the full
stop before *@domainname was intentional? I'll try that next.

Thanks again,

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Re[2]: Feature Request I'd Like To See in The Bat!

2002-12-24 Thread Mike Alexander
Hello Allie,

Wednesday, December 25, 2002, 2:31:11 AM, you wrote:

AM In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED],
AM Mike Alexander [MA] wrote:'

MA Thank you so much.  I have been trying things like *domain.com
MA and variations using * as a wild card,

AM The filter system doesn't use simple wild cards. It does use regular
AM expressions like:

AM .*@domainname

AM .* means one or more of any characters. You'll have to enable the
AM option 'regular expressions' in the filter options for the above
AM string to be used as a regular expression.

AM Of course, you could simply use just domainname.

AM If you use the simple string 'domainname', TB! will just look for
AM domainname in the sender address.


Thanks once again.  I will try the regular expressions because I'd
like to learn how to do things properly ;-) If I don't succeed at
first, I'll try your suggestion until I get it right.  I can see I'm
going to be busy during the holidays :)   But at least I'l be able to
block these $%££^$£%(*)!! people. And that's a nice present.
Much appreciated.


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