Re[2]: Quotingproblem

1999-10-04 Thread Thomas Fernandez

Hallo Werner,

On Monday, October 04, 1999, 5:13:40 PM, Werner Arts wrote:

TF This TB does not know whether anything is a name or another string of
TF characters, it will assume that everything in front of a "" is
TF suposed to be there, and the quote only starts after this character.

WA In this case the additional "" would be wrong.

[snip]

I'm leaving the above two lines in to make my point.

WA Look at the above Text. This is really confusing. None is able to
WA decide, *who* said *what*.

In the beginning of this thread, you had your reply template set on
"initials". And it was very easy to see who said what, that's the
reason for the initials.

Later you changed to "greater than only" (which is the standard in a
lot of other mail programmes) and that's why it is difficult to see
who said what. And that's why I like The Bat!.

 I cannot come up with another idea, though.

WA The same quoting mark at the beginning of *each* quoted line.
WA *Nothing* else is correct.
WA Below i can show, what happens:

|Inserting a "" *into* a quoted line changes the original text
WA   ^
|WA  ^^
WA   ^^ These characters should be below |"|
WA By adding a different number of characters *somewhere* into the quoted
text ("" *into* the first line, "WA " to the beginning of the second
WA line the sense of the quoted text really becomes ruined.

OK, you found a situation where it gets in the way. You can still trun
it off, though. ;-)

WA This behavior makes "The Bat" unusable for serious applications
WA (science, business ).

I don't know about science, I guess it depends on whether you use a
lot of "greater than" in your emails. If so, you will turn the feature
"initials" off. In business, I use it with initials every day and love
it. So do my agents and overseas offices, when they see their initials
before the mails they's written; especially since third and fourth
parties are often copied in and reply. If everybody used TB! (wouldn't
that be a nice world g), everybody would know who wrote what. Yes,
especially in business it is indeed *very* useful.

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Re[2]: Quotingproblem

1999-10-04 Thread Thomas Fernandez

Hallo Werner,

On Monday, October 04, 1999, 11:55:35 PM, Werner Arts wrote:


WA This doesn't help. "The Bat" places the "" into the middle of a line.
WA If if happens only when the "Initials Feature" is turned on, then
WA nothing to mention, but "The Bat" makes it also, when this feature is
WA turned off.

Oh? I didn't notice that. But you are right.

 In business, I use it with initials every day and love
 it. So do my agents and overseas offices, when they see their initials
 before the mails they's written; especially since third and fourth
 parties are often copied in and reply. If everybody used TB! (wouldn't
 that be a nice world g), everybody would know who wrote what. Yes,
 especially in business it is indeed *very* useful.

WA I agree. But if this feature is turned off, then "" should be placed
WA at the *beginning* of a quoted line.

I agree with you. :-)

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Re[2]: Quotingproblem

1999-10-04 Thread Thomas Fernandez

Hallo Ali,

On Tuesday, October 05, 1999, 1:28:39 AM, Ali Martin wrote:


 If everybody used TB! (wouldn't that be a nice world g), everybody
 would know who wrote what. Yes, especially in business it is indeed
 *very* useful.

AM The problem is that most people *do not* use TB!.

Wait until I go on my quest! ;-)

AM Most people who use other mailers other than TB will not use
AM initials and it will create difficulties, hence my turning it off.

Yeah, that's why I agree with Werner that TB! should behave like other
mailers when the feature is turned off.

AM I don't use initials on TBUDL as I'd like to because the quote
AM prefix settings can't be achieved on a per folder basis.

Another idea. Not bad. :-)

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Re[2]: Quotingproblem

1999-10-03 Thread Claude

Hi, all,
On 04/10/1999, at 00:12,
Ali Martin (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED])
climbed up a big rock and began to chant:

 btw, this point was discussed a few days ago: see the "Quote
 prefixing rehash" thread...

AM No Claude. This is a different matter.

... Sorry :-\

AM The point is that if someone were
AM to innocently write to you and place '' signs for whatever reason in
AM the body of their text problems may arise. If the '' appears within the
AM first twenty characters of the line it is treated as a quote prefix and
AM the reply quote prefix placed inappropriately in front of it.

Wouldn't this pb be solved with the same idea I had within the thread
I related?
It was to change the actual rule "If there is a '' in the beginning
of the line AND the first char is not a sp, quote" to "If there is a
 '' in the line AND no sp before it, quote".



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