Re[2]: Recovering from a crash....
Hello MAU, On Saturday, September 4, 2004, 9:44:32 AM, you wrote: Hello Lynn, JG Agent does this and, since I keep all my 'well behaved' apps on the JG D: drive, after an OS re-install they are all available for JG immediate use, since they don't need any registry settings to work. It would certainly be a godsend if they'd all do that; I had to reload the system recently, too, but I am a *long* way from getting my apps all reinstalled .. and as you say, they are all sitting intact on the D partition, but unusable. I won't say the Registry is the best of the inventions but, think of something. What if you and me were to share the same machine as different Windows users (i.e. with different login). Whose settings and Preferences should TB keep in the ini file? Should we share the same message base (i.e. mail directory)? Even if we use different mail accounts we would be forced to password protect each account and, even so, why should I see your accounts in my folder tree and you see mine in yours? Etc., etc., etc. Try it. Create another user and then log off and login as the new user and see what happens. Miguel (a) Anybody who touches *my* computer gets their fingers chopped off! (b) How about TB! asks which user you are and then uses jeff.ini, lynne.ini, miguel.ini etc? In fact I might patent that idea. (c) MS started to recommend individual configuration files some time back, surely we all do what MS says without question ;-) -- Best wishes Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Recovering from a crash....
Saturday, September 4, 2004, 1:44:32 AM, you wrote: It would certainly be a godsend if they'd all do that; I had to reload the system recently, too, but I am a *long* way from getting my apps all reinstalled .. and as you say, they are all sitting intact on the D partition, but unusable. M I won't say the Registry is the best of the M inventions but, think of something. What if you and M me were to share the same machine as different Windows M users (i.e. with different login). It's nice to know the thing has a valid application, but I'm still weeks from getting all my software reinstalled :-) Lynn TBv.2.12.00 NT5 SP4 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]* * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.turriff.net Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Recovering from a crash....
Hello Roelof, On Thursday, September 2, 2004, 11:40:19 PM, you wrote: Hallo Lynn, On Thu, 2 Sep 2004 15:23:01 -0700GMT (3-9-2004, 0:23 +0200, where I live), you wrote: L However, do you know how I can recover my message base on L a new installation? I have the old folder files stashed on L a different drive; I didn't use the backup/recover option L because there was some corruption there that I couldn't L get rid of. Create a new account and insert the same folders you had in your original account. Select one of your folders Tools - Import messages - From TB message base - Browse to your old folder corresponding with your current one, select the messages.tbb file and you're importing. Do this for all of your folders I have been following this thread with some interest as I have to do a re-install of XP soon. The long term answer would be for Ritlabs to keep TB!'s settings in an ini file instead of the registry - I think MS have been recommending for a couple of years that application specific settings are kept in ini files (or perhaps XML files nowadays). Agent does this and, since I keep all my 'well behaved' apps on the D: drive, after an OS re-install they are all available for immediate use, since they don't need any registry settings to work. -- Best wishes Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hello Roelof, On Friday, September 3, 2004, 11:39:38 AM, you wrote: Hallo Jeff, On Fri, 3 Sep 2004 10:12:56 +0100GMT (3-9-2004, 11:12 +0200, where I live), you wrote: JG I have been following this thread with some interest as I have to do a JG re-install of XP soon. JG The long term answer would be for Ritlabs to keep TB!'s settings in an JG ini file instead of the registry I'd prefer that myself, but there's a workaround. You can save TB's registry settings to disk, that way you can import it when you've installed XP again. Sionce you're planning to do a re-install you can prepare yourself properly. It can also be automated by using a .bat file with a command like this: c:\windows\regedit.exe /e c:\thebat.reg HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT Adjust the path settings to your preferences. I never fail to be amazed by command line wizards who can achieve in 10 seconds what it would take hours to do any other way :-) That's brilliant - I used it for XanaNews as well so I can re-install my news reader the same way. Many thanks! -- Best wishes Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Recovering from a crash....
Hello MAU, Thursday, September 2, 2004, 2:49:52 PM, you wrote: Hello Tony, The problem is that I need to reinstall TB! also. How can I restore my old settings and messages? I still have *all* files but never made a backup with the option found in TB! Any help would be most welcome! Thanks for the many useful replies! -- Best regards, Tonymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Thursday, September 2, 2004, 2:49:52 PM, you wrote: M I have done this a couple of times in the past and I M had no problem. I've done this too, and it works fine. However, do you know how I can recover my message base on a new installation? I have the old folder files stashed on a different drive; I didn't use the backup/recover option because there was some corruption there that I couldn't get rid of. I tried reinstalling a couple of times without getting rid of it. tia, Lynn TBv.2.12.00 NT5 SP4 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]* * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.turriff.net Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Recovering from a crash....
Thursday, September 2, 2004, 3:40:19 PM, you wrote: RO Tools - Import messages - From TB message base - Browse to your RO old folder corresponding with your current one, select RO the messages.tbb file and you're importing. Do this RO for all of your folders Yes, that's what I did. It was very inconsistent; it recovered some of them, but not others. I'll keep the old files; worst case I can load it up into an editor and search on what I hope is there, but it's kind of annoying. And it was all from the same version; I had reloaded it 2 or 3 times before I finally threw up my hands and reinstalled. Thanks anyway .. TBv.2.12.00 NT5 SP4 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]* * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.turriff.net Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Recovering from a crash....
Thursday, September 2, 2004, 4:09:25 PM, you wrote: M Do you want to keep your message base on the M different drive? I'm M going to assume that yes. And I am going to assume it M is in: Actually, my current message base is on a 'd' partition, but when I deinstalled, I shifted all the mail folders to 'g' ... and tried to import them from there when I reinstalled. I will give the new account a shot ... but of course, I don't want to end up with the template corruption again that I had before ... all I want is the mails back :-) thanks .. Lynn TBv.2.12.00 NT5 SP4 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]* * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.turriff.net Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Recovering from a crash....
Thursday, September 2, 2004, 4:47:31 PM, you wrote: RO Another option would be to create a new account, close RO TB and copy your old account files (including RO everything) to the new directory, but that's bound to RO return your same corruption. That's what I'm afraid of .. and the deinstall/reinstall did finally get rid of that ... I'll tinker (carefully) a little more, but maybe it's a compromise thing .. thanks, to you and all who are helping out :-) Lynn TBv.2.12.00 NT5 SP4 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]* * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.turriff.net Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Recovering from a crash....
Thursday, September 2, 2004, 5:04:39 PM, you wrote: RO Tinker to your liking. ;-) You may be sure I will .. lol! RO I'd suggest that you replace the new account.* files RO for the old ones (they contain your filters, account RO settings, folder settings, quick templates) save the RO new ones so you can restore those. I think it most RO likely though that the corruption is in your old RO message base. Could be, I suppose, but it was the templates that were misbehaving. There was a template somewhere TBv.2.12.00 NT5 SP4 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]* * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.turriff.net Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Recovering from a crash....
Thursday, September 2, 2004, 5:04:39 PM, you wrote: Again, sorry ... I fatfingered something ... RO Tinker to your liking. ;-) I'd suggest that you RO replace the new account.* files for the old ones (they RO contain your filters, account settings, folder RO settings, quick templates) save the new ones so you RO can restore those. I think it most likely though that RO the corruption is in your old message base. There was a template somewhere with the wrong file attached to it, and it was appearing in the wrong folders. I messed with it for weeks trying to get rid of it (wiped all the templates and started over, etc), but it persisted. All the templates are now working fine, and I'm just stuck with the situation, I think. I *really* don't want the problem back, and hopefully none of the mails which are stranded were critical. It would be nice to know that for sure, of course, but I'm fairly bloody minded about stashing really important stuff elsewhere, so hopefully it's just an irritant, not a really *serious* problem. I won't know that for several months, though, probably :-( I knew the risk when I did it, I was just hoping that I would be able to get *just* the mails back somehow. I did get the AB back via my last backup, so that's a relief :-) I do appreciate all the ideas, though .. thanks! Lynn TBv.2.12.00 NT5 SP4 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]* * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.turriff.net Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Recovering from a crash....
Hello Roelof, Thursday, September 2, 2004, 2:55:16 PM, you wrote: Hallo Tony, On Thu, 2 Sep 2004 22:19:39 -0700GMT (3-9-2004, 7:19 +0200, where I live), you wrote: T The problem is that I need to reinstall TB! also. T How can I restore my old settings and messages? T I still have *all* files but never made a backup with the option found T in TB! It's been awhile since I used Ghost, but wasn't it possible to read those images like they drives themselves? Correct. But because the new hardware windows refused to boot. (drivers problems etc) So I had to reinstall windows. The repair windows option didn't work either. So Ghost won't help in this case. -- Best regards, Tonymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
