Re[2]: Refund Claim

2004-09-03 Thread Michael Schneider
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Mahlzeit Arjan,

Friday, September 3, 2004, 1:02:01 AM:

 As for what Ritlabs said they would do feature wise in TB! it
 depends if it was a true contract or just features they are
 planning on adding/fixing.

AdG Well, in a purely technical sense Ritlabs did indeed keep its
AdG promise. A lot of bugs _were_ fixed (numerous others were
AdG introduced), IMAP _was_ implemented and v2 _does_ have a New
AdG Filtering System (albeit in a beta version which turned out to
AdG be in fact a v3 pre beta).

AdG So, anyone who wishes to use a v2 with IMAP and NFS can do so. At
AdG least beta/6 (buggy as it may be) should still be freely available
AdG at Ritlab's site.

Implementing features means to me that they are not just built in, no
matter if they work properly but they are built in and usable for the
customer in the expected way.
Means they're fully functional and as bugfree as possible.

Promising features for one version, selling that version with just
alpha-character features and releasing a new version that only differs
from the old with some bugfixes and the mentioned - now usable -
features, which means an additional charge even for customers who
already paid for this features...

Sorry, but this seems to me like deceptive business acts...

Mike
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Re[2]: Refund Claim

2004-09-01 Thread Mark Partous

Hello St,

Wednesday, September 1, 2004, 12:54:13 PM, you wrote:


SMN   St:
 I just filled out a Refund Claim form over at element5.

SMN   MP:
 Based on what?

SMN   Well, like someone else said: To get bugs fixed now (in
SMN   software you paid for) you have to get the next version,
SMN   and I should add: and pay for it once more.

SMN   I don't want to go into details, but they didn't deliver
SMN   what they promised.

I can understand you do not like RitLabs' decision.

That being said, I must say that as far as the law is concerned,
you won't get far with this argument. Sorry.

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Re[2]: Refund Claim

2004-09-01 Thread Mark Partous

Hello John,

Wednesday, September 1, 2004, 1:17:18 PM, you wrote:

 That being said, I must say that as far as the law is concerned,
 you won't get far with this argument. Sorry.

JP Depends what country he is in.

Well, to start with, fill me in on the Australian situation. How much time
(after buying things or services) does a consumer have to claim a refund?

1 year (would be very generous), a month, 10 days?

And, is there really a basis for granting such a request? Does he have a
written contract in which is stated that specified bugs would be solved?

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