Re[2]: Sorting Office Problem

2007-01-18 Thread Paul Berger
Hello [EMAIL PROTECTED],

Thursday, January 18, 2007, 3:45:06 PM, you wrote:

RA On Thu, 18 Jan 2007 at 15:27:28 +1000, Paul wrote:
 When I try to add an item to the filters, sorting office recycles
 endlessly, and have to close the bat from task manager.

RA I don't experience a problem. What do you mean by recycles?



The problem seems to be in only one of the filters. If I try to
another condition, the list fades on screen and moves down the page,
but never stops doing this.

Have since added an extra filter to handle the additional condition,
and this works fine; have then added a second condition to that filter
and there is no problem.

So it may be some corruption in that particular filter, that has 27
conditions in it.

Using the extra filter seems to overcome the problem, as long as I
don't touch that corrupted filter.


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Re[2]: Sorting Office Problem

2007-01-18 Thread Paul Berger
Hello [EMAIL PROTECTED],

Thursday, January 18, 2007, 3:45:06 PM, you wrote:

RA On Thu, 18 Jan 2007 at 15:27:28 +1000, Paul wrote:
 When I try to add an item to the filters, sorting office recycles
 endlessly, and have to close the bat from task manager.

RA I don't experience a problem. What do you mean by recycles?



Further work:

Taking out 11 conditions and putting them in the new second filter
leaves only 16 conditions in the troublesome filter. If I now try to
add a new condition, the box that opens to hold it is 2-lines deep, so
seems best to stop at 16.


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Re[2]: Sorting Office Problem

2007-01-18 Thread Paul Berger
Hello [EMAIL PROTECTED],

Thursday, January 18, 2007, 7:14:04 PM, you wrote:

ASK Hello Paul Berger  everyone else,

ASK on Thursday, January 18, 2007 at 11:04 you (Paul Berger) wrote:

 So it may be some corruption in that particular filter, that has 27
 conditions in it.

ASK You could copy  paste the filter here for others to try it.



 Have since reduced this filter to 16 conditions, still has that
 fault.

 Here it is:

 TB! Message Filter 
beginFilter
UID: [6B667C54.01C5F852.0DC8958A.325A55B4]
Name: Wecocme
Filter:
[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]@westpac.com.au\0D\0A1`0`0`shareScene.com\0D\0A1`0`0`adventurevictoria.org\0D\0A1`0`0`commsec.com.au\0D\0A1`0`0`asx.com.au\0D\0A1`0`0`virtualvillage.com\0D\0A1`0`0`investorweb.com.au\0D\0A1`0`0`melbpc.org.au\0D\0A1`0`0`optusnet.com.au\0D\0A1`0`0`thebat.dutaint.com\0D\0A1`1`0`spammotel.com\0D\0A}
MoveMessage folder \5C\5COptus\5CInbox\5CWelcome
IsActive
Ignore
endFilter 


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Re[2]: Sorting Office Problem

2007-01-18 Thread Paul Berger
Hello [EMAIL PROTECTED],

Thursday, January 18, 2007, 7:17:58 PM, you wrote:

RO Hallo Alexander,

RO On Thu, 18 Jan 2007 10:14:04 +0100GMT (18-1-2007, 10:14 , where I
RO live), you wrote:

 So it may be some corruption in that particular filter, that has 27
 conditions in it.

ASK You could copy  paste the filter here for others to try it.

RO He could copy and paste it to a text editor, delete the filter from
RO the sorting office, close and open TB and paste it back.



Thanks, tried this and also your first idea:
Creating a backup and restoring it might solve that.

No success.

However, if I never touch that filter and use the second new one, all
is well - a work around.


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Re[2]: Sorting Office Problem

2007-01-18 Thread Paul Berger
Hello [EMAIL PROTECTED],

Thursday, January 18, 2007, 7:17:58 PM, you wrote:

RO Hallo Alexander,

RO On Thu, 18 Jan 2007 10:14:04 +0100GMT (18-1-2007, 10:14 , where I
RO live), you wrote:

 So it may be some corruption in that particular filter, that has 27
 conditions in it.

ASK You could copy  paste the filter here for others to try it.

RO He could copy and paste it to a text editor, delete the filter from
RO the sorting office, close and open TB and paste it back.



Thanks everyone for all the prompt help.

It seems that it is best to limit each filter to 16 conditions. For
additional conditions, use additional filter(s).

Then there is no problem.

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Re[2]: Sorting Office Problem

2007-01-18 Thread Paul Berger
Hello [EMAIL PROTECTED],

Thursday, January 18, 2007, 11:31:12 PM, you wrote:

PM Hi Paul,

PM on Thu, 18 Jan 2007 20:04:42 +1000GMT (18.01.2007, 11:04 +0100GMT here),
PM you wrote:

 When I try to add an item to the filters, sorting office recycles
 endlessly, and have to close the bat from task manager.

RA I don't experience a problem. What do you mean by recycles?

PB The problem seems to be in only one of the filters. If I try to
PB another condition, the list fades on screen and moves down the page,
PB but never stops doing this.

PB Have since added an extra filter to handle the additional condition,
PB and this works fine; have then added a second condition to that filter
PB and there is no problem.

PB So it may be some corruption in that particular filter, that has 27
PB conditions in it.

PM I remember a problem with (too) many conditions in a filter and
PM searched the archive. In TBBeta I found the thread from July 2005
PM starting with mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The conclusion
PM was that too many conditions cripple the filter, and there was nothing
PM to be done about it. I didn't know that the problem persists. If you
PM wish I can send you the thread by PM.



Thanks Peter.

Would appreciate that item.


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Re[2]: Sorting Office Problem

2007-01-18 Thread Paul Berger
Hello [EMAIL PROTECTED],

Friday, January 19, 2007, 12:26:21 AM, you wrote:

TF Hello Paul,

TF On Thu, 18 Jan 2007 20:04:42 +1000 GMT (18/01/2007, 17:04 +0700 GMT),
TF Paul Berger wrote:

PB The problem seems to be in only one of the filters. If I try to
PB another condition, the list fades on screen and moves down the page,
PB but never stops doing this.

TF It does, eventually. Just be patient. Once the cycling finishes, you
TF can add the new condition, and the filter works perfectly.



Thanks Thomas.  That explains it all nicely.


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Re[2]: Sorting Office Problem

2007-01-18 Thread Paul Berger
Hello [EMAIL PROTECTED],

Thursday, January 18, 2007, 8:27:20 PM, you wrote:

ASK Hello Paul Berger  everyone else,

ASK on Thursday, January 18, 2007 at 11:30 you (Paul Berger) wrote:

 So it may be some corruption in that particular filter, that has 27
 conditions in it.

ASK You could copy  paste the filter here for others to try it.

  Here it is:

ASK I tried to paste it into my S.O. but the entire conditions part remains
ASK empty. Dunno whats wrong with it.



Thanks for trying this, Alexander.

Not to worry.


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Re[2]: Sorting office

2004-09-01 Thread Paul Jansen
Miguel,

 Can anyone tell me how to move all my filters to common so that I
 can then share them with the relevant accounts?

 The only way I know so far is Copy (Cut)  Paste .

Is there a way to copy and paste multiple filters?  Or do I have to do
them one at a time, which will be very painful.

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Re[2]: Sorting office: actions: Export message to file

2003-11-14 Thread Terry
On Friday, November 14, 2003 at 1:00 PM, Simon wrote:

 Does  anyone  know about this feature? Is it not supposed to do what I
 am  attempting  to do with it? All I want to do is export the messages
 to .msg files as they are filtered into their TB! folder. I would have
 thought  that  this would be a sequential process. Does anyone know if
 this feature ever worked like this?

Hi Simon,

Perhaps the /EXPORT command will help. See TB's Help file index under
Export Messages. You may be able to utilize this to accomplish what
you'd like to do. It may be that you can write a batch file that is
triggered on a filter that calls the /EXPORT command. I've never tried
it and haven't used the command line functions of TB, so I could be
completely wrong. :)  Sorry I couldn't be of any more assistance.

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Re[2]: Sorting Office

2003-01-15 Thread Spike
Hello Jonathan  list,

On or about Wednesday, January 15, 2003 at 13:18:05GMT -0600
(which was 2:18 PM in the tropics where I live) Jonathan Angliss
murmured:

 Do you think we could sort the Sorting Rules somehow?

JA If you change the order of the sorting rules, you change the
JA order  in which they are applied. That could have a
JA disastrous affect in  some situations.

Perfect example is a friend who has [EMAIL PROTECTED] as
his address.  He is definitely not a spammer, so I sort his mail
FIRST with a filter for his exact mail address.  The spam filter
comes later, with 'SEX' as the trigger ANYWHERE in the message!
If I resorted my filters, the order could be changed and my
IMPORTANT messages from my known correspondent could be trashed!

Sorting the Sorting Office - NOT a good idea.  That is why they
have the MOVE UP and MOVE DOWN buttons!  Use with caution though,
as the net effect could be NOT EXACTLY what you intend!!

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Re[2]: Sorting Office

2003-01-15 Thread Daniel Rail
Hello Jonathan,

Wednesday, January 15, 2003, 3:18:05 PM, you wrote:

 On Wednesday, January 15, 2003, Adam wrote...

 Do you think we could sort the Sorting Rules somehow?

   If you change the order of the sorting rules, you change the order
   in which they are applied. That could have a disastrous affect in
   some situations.

If the sort is only applied to the viewing of the list of filters, I
wouldn't mind.  But, I definitely wouldn't want the filter sorting
change the order of the filtering.  It would be nice to at least have
a search capability.  But, I just couldn't imagine someone having around
100 filters under incoming and trying to manage them.

Just my 2 cents.

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Re[2]: Sorting Office

2003-01-15 Thread Daniel Rail
Hello,

Wednesday, January 15, 2003, 4:17:23 PM, you wrote:
 If the sort is only applied to the viewing of the list of filters, I
 wouldn't mind.

 But how do you sort on displayed, and not alter the order of affect?
 You'd then have to tag each filter with an order number, and have that
 displayed somewhere too, and allow sorting by that, and make it easily
 modifiable.

My guess is that a field representing the order of the filters already
exist, it's just not displayed.

 It would be nice to at least have a search capability.

 A sort in the search would be fine... because that truly would only be
 a name listing of the filter, and sorting on it would be just like
 sorting on a search result from a mailbox.

That would be fine as well.

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Re[2]: Sorting Office

2003-01-15 Thread Cliff
Hi Thomas,

 If you could sort them, perhaps hierachically, or hiding some
 elements, you could have a better overview of the Rule set that you
 created, and easier to maintain, and update.  I'm referring to their
 user display, not internal rule list.

TF Oh please, no. The order of the display *must* be the same as the
TF order in which the filters are processed. This is the first time I am
TF against even an option to make soemthing happen.

I want to glance at my filter list and know that they're
being executed in same order. I can give my filters
descriptive names if I want to.

I vote for leaving it the way it is too.



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Re[2]: Sorting Office

2003-01-15 Thread Cliff
Hi St,

Now that I can see what you had in mind - I like it!

Actually, I'd prefer a plain external text file
with the rules in execution order.
(Makes sharing of rules very easy to do.)

TB reads the text file and presents the default view
which would be execution order. It'd have a couple
buttons to sort the view different ways...and an associated
account preference so the same view is always presented, if
altered from the default by the user.

But then again, I'm not a programmer so I have no idea
how expensive it would be make any changes at all, let
alone our cosmetic wantings.

I get Korean spamwith weird characters in it.
It's very easy to copy/paste those characters into
a filter. Filtering on foreign characters isn't
something I've had good success with using other
user agents.




 I vote for leaving it the way it is too.

SMN   I am not against today's order of display, either (rules sorted
SMN   in the order they are processed) - BUT it would certainly be nice
SMN   if one could group related rules:

SMN - VirusShield
SMN VirusShield Spamvestigater (Virus)
SMN VirusShield SpamCop detected viruses
SMN - Whitelisted Addresses
SMN Whitelist: E-MU Systems
SMN Whitelist: E-MULetter
SMN Whitelist: Editors - Tritonhaven.Com
SMN Whitelist: Faq - Tritonhaven.Com
SMN Whitelist: ISP - BigBiz.Com
SMN - Mailing Lists (As host)
SMN [sub] Mailing List - E-MUsaic Mailing List
SMN [sub] Mailing List - Korg Trinity Mailing List
SMN [sub] Mailing List - Korg Triton Mailing List
SMN [sub] Mailing List - Roland Variphrase Mailing List
SMN [sub] Mailing List - Roland VS-1680 Mailing List
SMN [sub] Mailing List - Whosh Mailing List
SMN [sub] Mailing List - Whosh Steering Committee Mailing List
SMN - Mailing List (As subscriber only)
SMN Independent - BigFishAudio.Com News
SMN Independent - Symantec.Com News
SMN Independent - Doctor Audio Mailing List
SMN Independent - Jokequeen
SMN - JunkShield (Anti-spam)
SMN JunkShield Spamvestigater (General - Kludges)
SMN JunkShield Spamvestigater (General - Anywhere)
SMN JunkShield Spamvestigater ('inkjet')
SMN JunkShield Spamvestigater ('satellite')
SMN JunkShield Spamvestigater ('no address')
SMN JunkShield Spamvestigater ('search engine')
SMN JunkShield Spamvestigater (known spammers)
SMN JunkShield Spamvestigater (if 'relay' and no '4703')
SMN JunkShield Spamvestigater (if 'bomber' and no 9773055435')
SMN - Main Addresses
SMN St - Musaic.Net
SMN St - Tritonhaven.Com
SMN St - Whosh.Net

SMN   which again in a colapsed display would show up something like

SMN + VirusShield
SMN + Whitelisted Addresses
SMN + Mailing Lists (As Host)
SMN - Mailing List (Subscriber Only)
SMN Independent - BigFishAudio.Com News
SMN Independent - Symantec.Com News
SMN Independent - Doctor Audio Mailing List
SMN Independent - Jokequeen
SMN + JunkShield (Anti-spam)
SMN + Main Addresses

SMN   Ok? Just like folders and files in Explorer. And don't forget,
SMN   TB already have a sort of hierarchy:

SMN + Incoming Mail
SMN + Outgoing Mail
SMN + Read Messages
SMN + Replied Messages
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Re[2]: Sorting Office

2003-01-15 Thread Spike
Hello St - Musaic.Net,

On or about Wednesday, January 15, 2003 at 05:38:13GMT +0100
(which was 11:38 PM in the tropics where I live) St - Musaic.Net
opined:

SMN   I am not against today's order of display, either (rules sorted
SMN   in the order they are processed) - BUT it would certainly be nice
SMN   if one could group related rules:

8 [SNIPPED] to prevent massive overquoting ;-)

I like the way this idea was presented.  It would tend to assist
those trying to figure out HOW to use filters, and perhaps
suggest a BEST method to order them for maximum effect and
minimum effort.

When I first started out 15 months ago, I fiddled for DAYS on end
to get my filters to execute in the proper order.  Now I have
something VERY similar to the arrangement you detailed, with the
exception of the Virus scanning, which I don't do  :^)

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Re[2]: Sorting Office

2002-08-12 Thread Lynn Turriff



Sunday, August 11, 2002, 3:38:36 PM, you wrote:

 Come on Thomas, you have to be a bit more open minded.
 He's not asking to make it bigger, just re-sizeable.
 You could keep it as small as you wanted for yourself.

DAC It is not the size which I find lacking, but the lack
DAC of ability to search.

Yes to both!

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Re[2]: Sorting Office

2002-08-12 Thread Michael Thompson

Hello Allie,


On Mon, 12 Aug 2002, at 05:17:57 [GMT -0500] (which was 11:17 in my
TimeZone) you wrote:



While we are on the subject of resizing, this is related, but in the
Losest terms. (!) Why is it that windows with two or more scroll
windows all move when you use a scroll button on the Mouse or
keyboard??? THat is very annoying!


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Re[2]: Sorting Office

2002-08-12 Thread Michael Thompson

Hello Allie,


On Mon, 12 Aug 2002, at 16:00:21 [GMT -0500] (which was 22:00 in my
TimeZone) you wrote:



ACM In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED],
ACM Michael Thompson [MT] wrote:'

MT While we are on the subject of resizing, this is related, but in
MT the Losest terms. (!) Why is it that windows with two or more
MT scroll windows all move when you use a scroll button on the Mouse
MT or keyboard??? THat is very annoying!

ACM Try clicking in the window you wish to scroll and the others should
ACM stop scrolling.



I thought of that, it dos'nt. It is'nt the mouse drivers either. I
have used both M$ Intellipoint and Logitech Drivers. (Different MOuse)
I have also noticed this behaviour under 2k as well as XP...

But I dont think it is a Bat thing, as the code should not allow this
to happen. (Both windows are seperate items) so I think this is maybe
a OS Code thingie...

I dont know about the XP codebase, or the latest version of Delphi, as I stopped
using Delphi long ago..

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Re[2]: Sorting Office/Filters

2001-05-02 Thread Frederick Fisher Jr.

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Wednesday, May 02, 2001, 11:37:55 AM, Dierk Haasis wrote:

 If i understand you right, you want to colour code your messages based
 upon the sender (or whatever). For that you first define the colour
 groups you need, then create filters in the sorting office.

Correct.  I have created a color group and then I pick that color group in
the Actions tab area.

 check it, choose your colour group. Set the filter active and
 automatic.

Okay, I have the filter set as Active in the Rule is part of the first
tab...is there a separate setting for automatic?

I was a bit wrong in my last message...I don't have to hit re-filter to get
a message to show up in the correct color group.  It seems that as soon as
a message is marked read that it will show up correctly...which still isn't
quite what I'm looking for.

 I hope I am right.

Yes, you are.  Thank you for trying to help.

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Re[2]: Sorting Office/Filters

2001-05-02 Thread Frederick Fisher Jr.

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Wednesday, May 02, 2001, 11:58:13 AM, Jan Rifkinson wrote:

   Assuming that you are creating a filter under the 'incoming'
   folder rather than the 'read' folder, then how about the
   following:

Inbox is the source folder listed in my filter.

   StringsLocation  Presence
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]kludges   yes

I have Location set as Anywhere.  Would that make a difference?

   Place this filter @ the top of the list of filters.

I've only created two filters so far...until I figure out what this
problem is I'm not going to create any more.  But the particular one I'm
testing is the first one of the two.

Thanks for your help.

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Re[2]: Sorting Office/Filters

2001-05-02 Thread Frederick Fisher Jr.

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Wednesday, May 02, 2001, 12:45:57 PM, Dierk Haasis wrote:

 On the whole Jan made the process much more efficient; where I used
 two filters for any filtering criterion he used one. Should have
 thought of it myself.

No problem, at least you're trying to help.  :-)

 As for automatic: Un-check (if checked) Rule is Manual only.

Well, I've got it set correctly then.  So far it looks like I have the correct
settings but it's not working like I thought it would...

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Re[2]: Sorting Office/Filters

2001-05-02 Thread Jan Rifkinson

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Hi Marck,

On Wednesday, May 02, 2001 19:37:05 [ +0100 GMT], you wrote the
following in regards to 'Sorting Office/Filters':

Marck In that case the problem is in the colour group definition in that
Marck there are *two* colour settings - one normal (the surface definition)
Marck and one for unread (the secondary tab). Check there

  Hmmm. Didn't even think of that. Guess that's why you get the big bucks.
  :-)

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Re[2]: Sorting Office/Filters

2001-05-02 Thread Frederick Fisher Jr.

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Wednesday, May 02, 2001, 1:37:05 PM, Marck D. Pearlstone wrote:

 Hi Frederick,

 In that case the problem is in the colour group definition in that
 there are *two* colour settings - one normal (the surface definition)
 and one for unread (the secondary tab). Check there.

This tip did the trick.  Thank you for your help.

I also want to thank the other people who tried to help...thank you for
your effort.

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