Re[2]: Signature delimiter (Was: TB 3.5 - Bug with view by thread)

2005-05-17 Thread Ralph Inselsbacher
Leif wrote on Dienstag, 17. Mai 2005, 16:37:

> However, (you knew that was coming didn't you! ), to address
> your S/MIME issue. I'm not quite sure what the exact problem is, but
> if you'd like you can get a free personal e-mail certificate from
> www.thawte.com or at least you used to be able to.

Those certificates are stil free - i ordered mine a few days ago. Should you 
use Opera 8.0 as your browser, switch it's identifier to Mozilla and everything 
should work fine (according to their customer support)...

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Re[2]: signature delimiter

2004-05-26 Thread Cyrille
Hello Leif,

Tuesday, May 25, 2004, 11:19:50 PM, you wrote:

LG> Turn on the rich text viewer in:
LG> Options, Preferences, Viewer/Editor, and set the "View plaintext
LG> messages" to Rich Text/HTML viewer.

That's interesting. Now I have the proof that all my messages you complaint about
were sent with the sig delimiter as it should be. This Rich text viewer
shows all my messages in the Sent Mail folder with everything below the sig
delimiter as light grey.

LG> Send yourself an e-mail and look at your message that's returned. Now
LG> compare it with the on in the sent folder. If your sent message shows
LG> everything below the sig delimiter as light grey but your received
LG> test message does not, then we can probably say it's your SMTP server
LG> that's doing it, and if so, they are munging your message body which
LG> is wrong.

If I send myself a message which just goes to my local mail server everything
is OK. Outgoing and incoming message have the sig delimiter as it
should be.

If I send a message which leaves my local server and goes out on the
net, it comes back with the spoiled delimiter.

LG> If neither your sent nor received message show light grey below the
LG> sig delimiter, then let me know and we'll troubleshoot further from
LG> there.

I made another test using not my usual SMTP server, but another one.
In this case all delimiters are unchanged and OK, even if they come in
through my usual server.

This means that there must be a ISP in the *outgoing* chain of my usual
*SMTP* server who strips my end of line spaces away.

(Am I right or did I forget an element when I came to this
conclusion?)

C>> -3) Couldn't it be possible that some ISP strip off end of line spaces???

LG> Possible again, the above test will tell.

What could be the reason that they do this??

I heard that some ISP auto-convert MIME to 8-bit. But I do not know
what this implies?

Didn't anybody meet similar problems?


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Re[2]: Signature Delimiter

2002-07-12 Thread alists

Hello Jonathan,

Friday, July 12, 2002, 8:46:44 AM, you wrote:



>> Until this list, I never knew the importance of the sig
>> delimiter. I don't know if -- is TB standard or if it is
>> USENET, etc.

JA> The actual delimiter is --.  I think it's a standard thing,
JA> and listed somewhere, wouldn't have a clue where to find it though.

oh! i'll double check on the space in my footer. Thanks!


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Re[2]: signature delimiter

2002-05-06 Thread role+the_bat

Jernej,

JS> No, it's standard (if you look at Agent or Gravity [which are
JS> primarily newsreaders, but can be used for e-mail, too], they
JS> always add signatures below "-- "). Actually the only mailer I
JS> know that doesn't support -- is Outlook (Express) - it will remove
JS> all trailing spaces in messages...

Typing in the TB! editor, I think trailing spaces are removed from
lines too, and I only ever type just a "--", which seems to work in my
experience so far. Is this "deprecated-but-supported" maybe?


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Re[2]: signature delimiter

2002-05-05 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes

El domingo 5 de mayo de 2002, 20.24, Melissa Reese decía:

MR> Since PGP *does* use the dashes, it needs to recognize the five dashes
MR> in its headers and footers in order to find "valid" PGP material. In
MR> order to not get confused, during clear signing, it adds a dash/space
MR> ("- ") in the first two columns of any line of a message body it finds
MR> that begins with a dash in the first column.

ok, thanks

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Re[2]: signature delimiter

2002-05-05 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes

El domingo 5 de mayo de 2002, 17.15, Jernej Simončič decía:

RMR>> Is TB the only program that uses the "-- " as a signature delimiter?

JS> No, it's standard (if you look at Agent or Gravity [which are primarily
JS> newsreaders, but can be used for e-mail, too], they always add
JS> signatures below "-- "). Actually the only mailer I know that doesn't
JS> support --  is Outlook (Express) - it will remove all trailing spaces
JS> in messages...

so, if it's standard, anyone knows why PGP destroys de delimiter when
you sign a message?


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