Re[3]: HTML as default on v2.00 ...........?
Tuesday, September 9, 2003, 9:50:52 PM, Vishal wrote: V Right. People like us on this list don't appreciate that. But V we aren't really representative of the majority. That is such a great point! (I wish I had made it. :) ) We techies so often forget that our view of the world is different than the typical end user. 10 years ago it was a true technical accomplishment to have an Internet connection and LAN in your own home. (I think I just strained my arm patting myself on the back. :) ) Nowadays, it's a complete no-brainer that anyone can do and the vast majority of Internet users are not technically savvy. The Internet is becoming to be treated in the same manner as automobiles. I.e. I just want it to work and don't care how it works. V Many reasons, but I know a lot of people who *like* receiving V messages with fancy stationery. Me, too. That's one of the reasons why I use TB! so that much of the HTML nonsense is filtered for me. That's my choice. Many, if not most, enjoy the background gif of a notebook, the sand on a beach, waving palms, on and on ad nauseam. -- Dave Kennedy Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: HTML as default on v2.00 ...........?
Wednesday, September 10, 2003, 4:29:36 AM, FJ wrote: F You're turning things around here. With all communications, F the presentation and formatting lies with the originator. This F is true for newspapers, slide show presentations, snail mail F letters, email, etc.. Ding, ding, ding!!! We have a winner! Nicely said. F Concerning bad taste, people can write horribly in plain ASCII F too. Remember the phase about 7 years ago or so where the use of ASCII art became so overdone? The uproar over its use in conjunction with excessive .sigs, and we've got people on this list who sure do go overboard with theirs, was about the same as the noise about the evils of HTML e-mail. -- Dave Kennedy Here's my title Here's my place of business Here's my address Here's my clever saying Here's my e-mail version Here's my OS version and service pack Here's my ICQ Here's my secondary e-mail address Here's my tertiary e-mail address Here's my current winamp song Here's my phone number Here's my fax number Here's my cell phone number Here's my advertisement for my speaking engagement Here's my PGP signature Oh yeah, here's my web site Gets a bit much, huh? :) Notice that at least I put all this nonsense after the -- delimiter. But, hey, if you read this far you must have found it a little bit funny! :) And all of these examples I've pulled from people on TBUDL - a somewhat technical crowd. Oh, well Have a great day! Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: HTML as default on v2.00 ...........?
Tuesday, September 9, 2003, 8:59:49 AM, Bill wrote: B If the goal is COMMUNICATION, plain text wins. If the goal is You are trying to emphasize COMMUNICATION, right? That's why it's capitalized? I wonder if HTML would have been able to present that across better by using italics or bold font? B making it pretty, HTML wins. That's kind of a simple-minded view. Presentation counts. There have been a few snipes recently about how FoxMail does a lousy job at wrapping lines, etc. That's presentation and it clearly matters to even us plain-text techy types. B I receive a lot of HTML messages that look like ransom notes. Great simile! B If I have 557 fonts, then I'm going to use every one of them B in every message, Agreed. It's just like the early days of the Apple LaserWriter and all those hideous print newsletters that came out with 557 fonts all over it. Still, we survived those days. I'm disappointed to learn that the HTML editor on TB is as weak as being presented and that you can't make it the default. These discussions kind of remind me of Mac users defending their black white screens when Windows came out with color screen. Who needs color? It just slows things down and doesn't add anything! Having gone through many of these cycles, it's clear there will always be some who fight the progress that is inexorable and others who adapt. Lest you think that I'm a big HTML fan, I'm really not. I made out quite well with nroff/troff. However, there is this thing called momentum that HTML surely has. Even the fact that RIT has provided, however reluctantly, an HTML editor shows how much demand there is for it. -- Dave Kennedy Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
