Re: RegEx not perfect (yet)

2006-02-10 Thread Mica Mijatovic
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 ~( __ _o   Was another beautiful day, Sun, 5 Feb 2006,
   @  @  at 21:04:50 -0500, when rich gregory wrote:

 Actually, my original request for help DID mention that

MM Yes I remember this request, it was interesting, and I did already
MM give you one very good solution, but...will be that you are not
MM very willing, or at least are hesitant, to change a bit some
MM routines... okay, that's not a problem, you will have just to have
MM more filters/work to do then. Let us see...

 I am not understanding this paragraph too well...

It doesn't matter now, since such approach requires a certain change in
overall communication routines. Forget it, for a while.

 I am indeed open to doing what I must (or thought I was!) but I do not
 remember any solution other than:

   (?!Real Name) [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Which we now know does not work entirely.

No, it doesn't, regarding your initial question; I entered this topic a
bit later, when you had request like this...

NOW I just need to know :
How do I to tell the selective download filters that any email 1)
containing [EMAIL PROTECTED] in the
header 2) AND MISSING the correct real name is to be deleted.

...and this filter above is solution.

 If I remember correctly I was wondering if I would need more than 1
 filter... What was odd was that it seemed to do as hoped in my tests!

Well, you were right, one filter was not enough, at least not to my
knowledge.

 A) any NAME that does not = Real Name  -- OR
 B) any NAME that is BLANK-- Should be killed

MM Yep. Okay... Well, nothing then, you just will have to add another
MM filter which will destroy yet on server all what is not addressed to
MM [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can do it by treating entire
MM header part, with _no_ specific TO, CC etc. field.
MM It means, any message which doesn't have address
MM [EMAIL PROTECTED] in its header part will be
MM exterminated from server (the filter is in the flat forefootnote).[1]

 I am embarrassed to say I do not understand what you are saying here.
 (As I said, my mind is very much elsewhere these days.)

Okay. The said filter will delete from server every message which does
not have [EMAIL PROTECTED] in header part. It means
that message not using this address will be deleted from server. The
filter| was given in footnote of this message.
  |
 The |filter below I do not understand either. Can you please tell me
 exac|tly what it is to do? All can see (I think I understand) is that
 it l|ooks for ANY mail with [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 some|where in the header...
  |
Exactl|y. You get it.
  |
 Then| what does it do??? (fkoDetectHeader??)
  |
It the|n deletes message from server, IF this address is not found in the
header| part.
  |
  '---,
MM BeginFilter  ---'
MM Name: For Linda A. Liar 2
MM Active: 1
MM Source: \\Account\Inbox
MM Target: \\Account\Inbox
MM CopyFolder: none
MM MainSet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MM Actions: fkoDetectHeader
MM AddGroups:
MM DelGroups:
MM ForwardTemplate:
MM ConfirmTemplate:
MM ReplyTemplate:
MM FwdAddr:
MM RedirectAddr:
MM NewAddr:
MM NewTemplate:
MM ExtCmd:
MM ExtFile:
MM ExtractDir:
MM ColourGroup: default
MM AddAddrItems:
MM DelAddrItems:
MM HotKey: 0
MM IsOfColour: default
MM SizeBigger: 0
MM SizeSmaller: 0
MM AgeOlder: 0
MM AgeNewer: 0
MM InAddrPos: 0
MM OutAddrPos: 0
MM InAddrGroups:
MM NoAddrGroups:
MM KillFile:
MM KillMethod: 0
MM SaveTemplate:
MM SndFile:
MM SysSound: 0
MM SoundTime: 0:00-0:00
MM AllowTime: 0:00-0:00
MM EndFilter

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RegEx not perfect (yet)

2006-02-05 Thread rich gregory
Hello Bat-Folk!

The RegEx we worked on seems to work but only sometimes as today this
email (header excerpt) got thru:

Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: Linda A. Liar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: =?iso-8859-1?B?UG9wdWxhciBwaWxscyAtICQyLjk5L2Rvc2U=?=

Here's the selective download KILL filter:

BeginFilter
Name: Bogus sale
Active: 1
Source: \\Account\Inbox
Target: \\Account\Inbox
CopyFolder: none
MainSet: (?!Real name) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Actions: fkoDetectHeader
AddGroups: 
DelGroups: 
ForwardTemplate: 
ConfirmTemplate: 
ReplyTemplate: 
FwdAddr: 
RedirectAddr: 
NewAddr: 
NewTemplate: 
ExtCmd: 
ExtFile: 
ExtractDir: 
ColourGroup: default
AddAddrItems: 
DelAddrItems: 
HotKey: 0
IsOfColour: default
SizeBigger: 0
SizeSmaller: 0
AgeOlder: 0
AgeNewer: 0
InAddrPos: 0
OutAddrPos: 0
InAddrGroups: 
NoAddrGroups: 
KillFile: 
KillMethod: 4
SaveTemplate: 
SndFile: 
SysSound: 0
SoundTime: 0:00-0:00
AllowTime: 0:00-0:00
EndFilter



Any ideas?

Thx mucho
Richie G

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Re: RegEx not perfect (yet)

2006-02-05 Thread Mica Mijatovic
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 ~( __ _o   Was another beautiful day, Sun, 5 Feb 2006,
   @  @  at 11:52:30 -0500, when rich gregory wrote:

 Hello Bat-Folk!

 The RegEx we worked on seems to work but only sometimes as today this
 email (header excerpt) got thru:

 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 From: Linda A. Liar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: =?iso-8859-1?B?UG9wdWxhciBwaWxscyAtICQyLjk5L2Rvc2U=?=

We worked on Name address, at your own request, not on address.
That's the reason why Linda Wily Liar got through this what we didn't
work on.

 Here's the selective download KILL filter:

 BeginFilter
 Name: Bogus sale
 Active: 1
 Source: \\Account\Inbox
 Target: \\Account\Inbox
 CopyFolder: none
 MainSet: (?!Real name) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Actions: fkoDetectHeader
 AddGroups:
 DelGroups:
 ForwardTemplate:
 ConfirmTemplate:
 ReplyTemplate:
 FwdAddr:
 RedirectAddr:
 NewAddr:
 NewTemplate:
 ExtCmd:
 ExtFile:
 ExtractDir:
 ColourGroup: default
 AddAddrItems:
 DelAddrItems:
 HotKey: 0
 IsOfColour: default
 SizeBigger: 0
 SizeSmaller: 0
 AgeOlder: 0
 AgeNewer: 0
 InAddrPos: 0
 OutAddrPos: 0
 InAddrGroups:
 NoAddrGroups:
 KillFile:
 KillMethod: 4
 SaveTemplate:
 SndFile:
 SysSound: 0
 SoundTime: 0:00-0:00
 AllowTime: 0:00-0:00
 EndFilter

Dear Richie Gee, :unreal:

Since we don't like Lindas Any Liers, this Selective Kicking Out filter
kills any her attempt to comloonycate with us 12/7/24/1440/86400:

BeginFilter
Name: For Linda A. Liar
Active: 1
Source: \\Account\Inbox
Target: \\Account\Inbox
CopyFolder: none
MainSet: From: Linda A. Liar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MainSet: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Actions: fkoDetectHeader
AddGroups:
DelGroups:
ForwardTemplate:
ConfirmTemplate:
ReplyTemplate:
FwdAddr:
RedirectAddr:
NewAddr:
NewTemplate:
ExtCmd:
ExtFile:
ExtractDir:
ColourGroup: default
AddAddrItems:
DelAddrItems:
HotKey: 0
IsOfColour: default
SizeBigger: 0
SizeSmaller: 0
AgeOlder: 0
AgeNewer: 0
InAddrPos: 0
OutAddrPos: 0
InAddrGroups:
NoAddrGroups:
KillFile:
KillMethod: 1
SaveTemplate:
SndFile:
SysSound: 0
SoundTime: 0:00-0:00
AllowTime: 0:00-0:00
EndFilter

What she has offered this time? Enlargement again? (-: You could offer
her a shrinkment in friendly return.

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Re[2]: RegEx not perfect (yet)

2006-02-05 Thread rich gregory
 The RegEx we worked on seems to work but only sometimes as today this
 email (header excerpt) got thru:
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

MM We worked on Name address, at your own request, not on address.
MM That's the reason why Linda Wily Liar got through this what we didn't
MM work on.


Sure, we worked on that! Don't you remember?  ;)
(OK, maybe you did all the coding work but I did spec out the job!)

Actually, my original request for help DID mention that
 A) any name that does not = Real Name
OR   B) any name that is BLANK
should be killed. The examples I gave were something like this:
 Good email:Real Name [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Bad email :Incorrect Name [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Bad email :[EMAIL PROTECTED]

In the above example of a spam that did make it thru the name field
was blank.

Actually now I am seeing emails come in with random characters added
as part of the good address such as:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Very distressing!  I wonder (Batters) what more we can do!



MM What she has offered this time? Enlargement again? (-: You could offer
MM her a shrinkment in friendly return.

Wouldn't it be more polite to offer my enlargement to her in return?
(Oh, did I say that out loud?)

Thank you all
Richie G






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Re: RegEx not perfect (yet)

2006-02-05 Thread Mica Mijatovic
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   ***^\ ._)~~
 ~( __ _o   Was another beautiful day, Sun, 5 Feb 2006,
   @  @  at 15:04:17 -0500, when rich gregory wrote:

 Sure, we worked on that! Don't you remember?  ;)

Could I forget it? You were silent for a while and I already wanted to
ask you how it goes with the last killer-filter. I wondered if you had
wrecked more mails due to some typo/bad retyping then you wished to...

 (OK, maybe you did all the coding work but I did spec out the job!)

You're decently good too, in specifying the jobs out. Problem is with
those knowing not what they want. Polyvalent thinkers.

 Actually, my original request for help DID mention that

Yes I remember this request, it was interesting, and I did already give
you one very good solution, but...will be that you are not very willing,
or at least are hesitant, to change a bit some routines...okay, that's
not a problem, you will have just to have more filters/work to do then.
Let us see...

  A) any name that does not = Real Name
 OR   B) any name that is BLANK
 should be killed. The examples I gave were something like this:
  Good email:Real Name [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Bad email :Incorrect Name
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Bad email :[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 In the above example of a spam that did make it thru the name field
 was blank.

Yep. Okay... Well, nothing then, you just will have to add another
filter which will destroy yet on server all what is not addressed to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] You can do it by treating entire
header part, with _no_ specific TO, CC etc. field.

It means, any message which doesn't have address
[EMAIL PROTECTED] in its header part will be
exterminated from server (the filter is in the flat forefootnote).[1]

Except something like this...

 Actually now I am seeing emails come in with random characters added
 as part of the good address such as:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

...hmmm...

 Very distressing!  I wonder (Batters) what more we can do!

...yes, purpose of existence of spammers is to annoy you in order to be
destroyed. Basically those are suicides lacking necessary courage.

I will give you my opinion/solution these days, if you in the mean time
don't get something effective already.

MM What she has offered this time? Enlargement again? (-: You could offer
MM her a shrinkment in friendly return.

 Wouldn't it be more polite to offer my enlargement to her in return?

I didn't get any spam for many moons and few sun eclipses now, and today
I passed through one of them manually to see how it looks. The old same
story. I think the shrinkment would be enough.

 (Oh, did I say that out loud?)

More polite would be something which wouldn't be polite to say it aloud
here. (-:



___

[1]

BeginFilter
Name: For Linda A. Liar 2
Active: 1
Source: \\Account\Inbox
Target: \\Account\Inbox
CopyFolder: none
MainSet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Actions: fkoDetectHeader
AddGroups:
DelGroups:
ForwardTemplate:
ConfirmTemplate:
ReplyTemplate:
FwdAddr:
RedirectAddr:
NewAddr:
NewTemplate:
ExtCmd:
ExtFile:
ExtractDir:
ColourGroup: default
AddAddrItems:
DelAddrItems:
HotKey: 0
IsOfColour: default
SizeBigger: 0
SizeSmaller: 0
AgeOlder: 0
AgeNewer: 0
InAddrPos: 0
OutAddrPos: 0
InAddrGroups:
NoAddrGroups:
KillFile:
KillMethod: 0
SaveTemplate:
SndFile:
SysSound: 0
SoundTime: 0:00-0:00
AllowTime: 0:00-0:00
EndFilter

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Re[2]: RegEx not perfect (yet)

2006-02-05 Thread rich gregory
 Sure, we worked on that! Don't you remember?  ;)
MM Could I forget it? You were silent for a while and I already wanted to
MM ask you how it goes with the last killer-filter. I wondered if you had
MM wrecked more mails due to some typo/bad retyping then you wished to...

No, a family emergency has been / continues to take all my time. It
continues to keep my mind elsewhere.   :(


 Actually, my original request for help DID mention that
MM Yes I remember this request, it was interesting, and I did already
MM give you one very good solution, but...will be that you are not
MM very willing, or at least are hesitant, to change a bit some
MM routines... okay, that's not a problem, you will have just to have
MM more filters/work to do then. Let us see...

I am not understanding this paragraph too well... I am indeed open to
doing what I must (or thought I was!) but I do not remember any
solution other than:

  (?!Real Name) [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Which we now know does not work entirely. If I remember correctly I
was wondering if I would need more than 1 filter... What was odd was
that it seemed to do as hoped in my tests!


 A) any NAME that does not = Real Name  -- OR
 B) any NAME that is BLANK-- Should be killed
MM Yep. Okay... Well, nothing then, you just will have to add another
MM filter which will destroy yet on server all what is not addressed to
MM [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can do it by treating entire
MM header part, with _no_ specific TO, CC etc. field.
MM It means, any message which doesn't have address
MM [EMAIL PROTECTED] in its header part will be
MM exterminated from server (the filter is in the flat forefootnote).[1]

I am embarrassed to say I do not understand what you are saying here.
(As I said, my mind is very much elsewhere these days.)

The filter below I do not understand either. Can you please tell me
exactly what it is to do? All can see (I think I understand) is that
it looks for ANY mail with [EMAIL PROTECTED]
somewhere in the header... Then what does it do??? (fkoDetectHeader??)

Thank you very much
Rich


MM BeginFilter
MM Name: For Linda A. Liar 2
MM Active: 1
MM Source: \\Account\Inbox
MM Target: \\Account\Inbox
MM CopyFolder: none
MM MainSet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MM Actions: fkoDetectHeader
MM AddGroups:
MM DelGroups:
MM ForwardTemplate:
MM ConfirmTemplate:
MM ReplyTemplate:
MM FwdAddr:
MM RedirectAddr:
MM NewAddr:
MM NewTemplate:
MM ExtCmd:
MM ExtFile:
MM ExtractDir:
MM ColourGroup: default
MM AddAddrItems:
MM DelAddrItems:
MM HotKey: 0
MM IsOfColour: default
MM SizeBigger: 0
MM SizeSmaller: 0
MM AgeOlder: 0
MM AgeNewer: 0
MM InAddrPos: 0
MM OutAddrPos: 0
MM InAddrGroups:
MM NoAddrGroups:
MM KillFile:
MM KillMethod: 0
MM SaveTemplate:
MM SndFile:
MM SysSound: 0
MM SoundTime: 0:00-0:00
MM AllowTime: 0:00-0:00
MM EndFilter


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