Re: SOT - Removing old DLL's

2000-01-27 Thread tracer

Hello Sir Jinx!,
On Thu, 27 Jan 2000 07:18:42 +0200 GMT your local time,
which was Thursday, January 27, 2000, 12:18:42 PM (GMT+0700) my local time,
Sir Jinx! wrote:


 Hello ,

 I   have  two  programs  that  need  new  versions  of  mfc42.dll  and
 comctl.dll.  But  I  can't  remove them in _any_ known way I tried
 _everything_:  deleting,  renaming  or  cutting them didn't work. Even
 from  DOS  [Norton Commander] - NOTHING HAPPENED!!! Can someone PLEASE
 tell me what to do?!

remove in dos, asuming you want to remove them.
I would prefer a proper install of the newer ones so you have a better
chance of not corrupting windows.


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Re: SOT - Removing old DLL's

2000-01-27 Thread John Sullivan

On Thursday 27 January 2000 Sir Jinx! wrote:
 I   have  two  programs  that  need  new  versions  of  mfc42.dll  and
 comctl.dll.  But  I  can't  remove them in _any_ known way I tried
 _everything_:  deleting,  renaming  or  cutting them didn't work. Even
 from  DOS  [Norton Commander] - NOTHING HAPPENED!!! Can someone PLEASE
 tell me what to do?!

Assuming you're running NT4 or earlier or Win98 or earlier, start a
Command Prompt window (doesn't work from explorer), cd to your windows
system directory and "MOVE MFC42.DLL MFC42.DLL-OLD". This should be
possible. Then copy the new MFC42.DLL into there. New programs will
use it, but to get already running programs to use it you'll need to
reboot. Failing that you'll need to hack the RunOnce registry key to
get windows to do it for you on the next reboot.

If you select the mfc42.dll in explorer and press Alt-Enter, the
version tab will tell you which version of MFC you have installed. On
the microsoft support site (support.microsoft.com) there is a list of
shipped MFC versions - search for "MFC version history", or now there
is a dedicated page listing the shipped versions of *all* microsoft
components (and which product they shipped in), but I forget the exact
URL to this.

If you're running NT5/Windows 2000, then System File Protection
prevents this completely. The only officially endorsed way is to
update them through an official service pack or the windows update
website. (I'm sure other, less official, ways will be discovered very
soon though :-)

For situations like this, MS now recommend putting the needed version
of the DLL in the same directory as the application. I'm not sure if
this works 100% of the time now, but they've modified the way DLLs
work in Win2000 specifically to try and stop "DLL Hell".

John
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Re[2]: SOT - Removing old DLL's

2000-01-27 Thread tracer

Hello John Sullivan,
On Thu, 27 Jan 2000 11:39:23 + GMT your local time,
which was Thursday, January 27, 2000, 6:39:23 PM (GMT+0700) my local time,
John Sullivan wrote:



 If you select the mfc42.dll in explorer and press Alt-Enter, the
 version tab will tell you which version of MFC you have installed. On
 the microsoft support site (support.microsoft.com) there is a list of
 shipped MFC versions - search for "MFC version history", or now there
 is a dedicated page listing the shipped versions of *all* microsoft
 components (and which product they shipped in), but I forget the exact
 URL to this.

I normally do a search as these files tend to be on systems many
times.

 If you're running NT5/Windows 2000, then System File Protection
 prevents this completely. The only officially endorsed way is to
 update them through an official service pack or the windows update
 website. (I'm sure other, less official, ways will be discovered very
 soon though :-)

easy...
at least one Dos program will go into NTFS files and allows writing
and I guess that the NTFS drive reading program under windows also
will allow that.
More important is what happens after you replace them as changing
things like this in a secret way could collapse the OS around your
ears

 For situations like this, MS now recommend putting the needed version
 of the DLL in the same directory as the application. I'm not sure if
 this works 100% of the time now, but they've modified the way DLLs
 work in Win2000 specifically to try and stop "DLL Hell".

Supposedly autorecovering

 John



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SOT - Removing old DLL's

2000-01-26 Thread Sir Jinx!

Hello ,

I   have  two  programs  that  need  new  versions  of  mfc42.dll  and
comctl.dll.  But  I  can't  remove them in _any_ known way I tried
_everything_:  deleting,  renaming  or  cutting them didn't work. Even
from  DOS  [Norton Commander] - NOTHING HAPPENED!!! Can someone PLEASE
tell me what to do?!

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