Re[2]: Scanning for Duplicate Emails - A 'proper' TBUDL discussion! :
Sunday, September 17, 2000, Januk Aggarwal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday, September 17, 2000 at 03:07:33 GMT +0100 (which was 7:07 PM where I live) witnesses say Mark R Harding typed: I don;t want to risk a test run in case it does something unexpected. You might be wise to make a backup of your mail folders first. (Point Windows Explorer to your TB Mail folder and make a copy of it somewhere.) Usually you can find this folder in: C:\Program Files\The Bat!\Mail Unless you're like me and put your folders elsewhere. If I already have set up the Mail folder under ...\The Bat!\Mail, can I change it to some place else? if yes, how? Thanks in advance JM Using The Bat! 1.44 Under Windows 95 4.0 Build 950 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
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Hi JM, On Fri, 22 Sep 2000 03:23:36 -0400GMT (22/09/2000, 15:23 +0800GMT), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: nnn If I already have set up the Mail folder under ...\The Bat!\Mail, can I nnn change it to some place else? if yes, how? - Create the new directory on your HD - Copy all mail folders there - Change the path for each account to where the folders are now. Account/Properties/FilesDirectories. All folders and all mail will seem to have disappread. But behold! Press shft-crtl-alt-L (another undocumented shortcut) in each account, and TB will miraculously find the folders and the mail! [And if not, you can still use the backup I didn't tell you make.] ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.46d under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Scanning for Duplicate Emails - A 'proper' TBUDL discussion! :)
Sunday, September 17, 2000, Mark R Harding [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, if I do so, I'll end up with numerous messages duplicated because I may have downloaded them at home (using 'leave-on-server') before finally collecting them and offloading them at work later. I don't want to just 'overwrite' the home account because I also integrate email from some other accounts that I don't check from work and I don;t want to lose those messages obviously. Therefore, what would be ideal is if I could integrate the messages from both setups into one tree (*easy*) and then perform a 'search for duplicate emails' so that I could then delete all my duplicates leaving me with a nice ordely, historically complete archive at home. How do you integrate the messages *without* overwriting ? Thanks in advance JM Using The Bat! 1.44 Under Windows 95 4.0 Build 950 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Scanning for Duplicate Emails - A 'proper' TBUDL discussion! :)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi net5zero, On 21 September 2000 at 16:00:59 GMT -0400 (which was 21:00 where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote and made these points on the subject of "Scanning for Duplicate Emails - A 'proper' TBUDL discussion! :)": nnn How do you integrate the messages *without* overwriting ? One way that comes to mind is by exporting and subsequently importing in Unix mailbox format. - -- Cheers, .\\arck [Marck D. Pearlstone | Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA ] [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] [ PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Body=GET%20MARCKKEY ] The Bible was written by the same people who said the Earth was flat. TB! v1.47 Beta/5 S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Secured Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness! iQA/AwUBOcql/jnkJKuSnc2gEQI4EgCeP/wm3OJS8U/cJPAxOusBQNO80NMAn1Sm QOfgAQJYE/49zDJfZIarg6HV =tQwY -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Scanning for Duplicate Emails - A 'proper' TBUDL discussion! :)
net5zero, Regarding your message dated: 21 September 2000... nnn How do you integrate the messages *without* overwriting ? Well, although I haven't tested this yet, one thought I had was to make a temporary 'dummy' folder on one account and then copy the messages file from the 'proper' folder on machine 1 to the dummy folder on machine 2. I could then simply 'move' all the messages into the 'proper' folder on machine 2 from within TB! and then do the 'kill dupes' operation discussed the other day. Cheers, Mark -- - Using TheBat! 1.47 Beta/2 Windows NT 5 0 2195 Service Pack 1 - Just4Fun - Freestuff, Humour and More! - http://just4fun.ipfox.com/ - Mark R Harding The Integrated Systems Group (Vision) Department of Electronics Electrical Engineering The University of Edinburgh, King's Buildings, Mayfield Road Edinburgh. EH9 3JL. Scotland. U.K. Phone: +44 (0)131 650 5662 Fax:+44 (0)131 650 6554 Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] URL:http://www.ee.ed.ac.uk/~mrh/ - PGP-Key Available at: http://www.ee.ed.ac.uk/~mrh/pgp.html - -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Scanning for Duplicate Emails - A 'proper' TBUDL discussion! :)
Hi TBUDL, Here's another question, the answer to which might solve a little outstanding task I want to do sometime... As I have mentioned before, I have two TB installs (work and home) with the work install being my permanent archive of mails sent to my major accounts. I'd like to take my work archive home to let have the full history of emails in both locations and I can effect the transfer by various methods. However, if I do so, I'll end up with numerous messages duplicated because I may have downloaded them at home (using 'leave-on-server') before finally collecting them and offloading them at work later. I don't want to just 'overwrite' the home account because I also integrate email from some other accounts that I don't check from work and I don;t want to lose those messages obviously. Therefore, what would be ideal is if I could integrate the messages from both setups into one tree (*easy*) and then perform a 'search for duplicate emails' so that I could then delete all my duplicates leaving me with a nice ordely, historically complete archive at home. Any ideas - and please don't tell me if TB! has a "search for dupicates" function that I've not seen - well, okay but tell me in a nice way to reduce my potential 'stupidity-tax' embarrassment. Thanks in advance. Best wishes, Mark. -- - Using TheBat! 1.46c Windows NT 4 0 1381 Service Pack 6 - Just4Fun - Freestuff, Humour and More! - http://just4fun.ipfox.com/ - Mark R Harding The Integrated Systems Group (Vision) Department of Electronics Electrical Engineering The University of Edinburgh, King's Buildings, Mayfield Road Edinburgh. EH9 3JL. Scotland. U.K. Phone: +44 (0)131 650 5662 Fax:+44 (0)131 650 6554 Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] URL:http://www.ee.ed.ac.uk/~mrh/ - PGP-Key Available at: http://www.ee.ed.ac.uk/~mrh/pgp.html - -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Scanning for Duplicate Emails - A 'proper' TBUDL discussion! :)
Hello Mark, On Sunday, September 17, 2000 at 02:33:28 GMT +0100 (which was 6:33 PM where I live) witnesses say Mark R Harding typed: Any ideas - and please don't tell me if TB! has a "search for dupicates" function that I've not seen - well, okay but tell me in a nice way to reduce my potential 'stupidity-tax' embarrassment. nudge Folder - Kill Dupes or Folder - Kill Dupes in All Folders /nudge :) -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal See header for e-mail address Using The Bat! 1.46c under Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Scanning for Duplicate Emails - A 'proper' TBUDL discussion! :)
Januk, Regarding your message dated: 18 September 2000... Any ideas - and please don't tell me if TB! has a "search for dupicates" function that I've not seen - well, okay but tell me in a nice way to reduce my potential 'stupidity-tax' embarrassment. JA nudge JA Folder - Kill Dupes or Folder - Kill Dupes in All Folders JA /nudge JA :) Okay - I'm duly taxed! :) (nudged into embarrassment!) I have a further question since I imagine that this function simply deletes the messages without showing you a list of what will be deleted first. (I guess I might be asked to confirm that I really want to delete duplicate emails but I'd like to see what disappears of possible.) I don;t want to risk a test run in case it does something unexpected. Has anyone used this function such that they can report success/failures and also, what criteria will the "Kill Dupes" use to identify duplicate emails? The last question I ask because when I integrate the two message-bases into one, the messages collected from Work will display a different 'received date' than the home collected messages. Will this matter? I did look in the help file for all this but I'm not seeing anything returned for "Dupes", duplicates or similar... Thanks again... Best wishes, Mark. -- - Using TheBat! 1.46c Windows NT 4 0 1381 Service Pack 6 - Just4Fun - Freestuff, Humour and More! - http://just4fun.ipfox.com/ - Mark R Harding The Integrated Systems Group (Vision) Department of Electronics Electrical Engineering The University of Edinburgh, King's Buildings, Mayfield Road Edinburgh. EH9 3JL. Scotland. U.K. Phone: +44 (0)131 650 5662 Fax:+44 (0)131 650 6554 Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] URL:http://www.ee.ed.ac.uk/~mrh/ - PGP-Key Available at: http://www.ee.ed.ac.uk/~mrh/pgp.html - -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Scanning for Duplicate Emails - A 'proper' TBUDL discussion! :)
Hello Mark, On Sunday, September 17, 2000 at 03:07:33 GMT +0100 (which was 7:07 PM where I live) witnesses say Mark R Harding typed: Snip intro to Kill Dupe function I have a further question since I imagine that this function simply deletes the messages without showing you a list of what will be deleted first. Correct. (I guess I might be asked to confirm that I really want to delete duplicate emails but I'd like to see what disappears of possible.) Nope, no confirmation message here. I don;t want to risk a test run in case it does something unexpected. You might be wise to make a backup of your mail folders first. (Point Windows Explorer to your TB Mail folder and make a copy of it somewhere.) Usually you can find this folder in: C:\Program Files\The Bat!\Mail Unless you're like me and put your folders elsewhere. Has anyone used this function such that they can report success/failures and also, what criteria will the "Kill Dupes" use to identify duplicate emails? I use it all the time. I haven't had a problem, but then I don't get much critical mail. If I do, I use the park feature. Parked messages won't be deleted. Kill Dupes uses the message IDs. So two messages in one folder with the same message IDs are considered to be duplicates. This may or may not be a good assumption, so you are wise in taking some precautions, especially if it is critical mail. The last question I ask because when I integrate the two message-bases into one, the messages collected from Work will display a different 'received date' than the home collected messages. Will this matter? Nope, just the message ID. I did look in the help file for all this but I'm not seeing anything returned for "Dupes", duplicates or similar... It is a fairly recent addition, and the Help files have not been kept up to date. Although I understand that the RIT guys are looking for a professional tech writer to help them document everything. -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal See header for e-mail address Using The Bat! 1.46c under Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Scanning for Duplicate Emails - A 'proper' TBUDL discussion! :)
On Sunday, September 17, 2000, 6:49:36 PM, you wrote: JA Folder - Kill Dupes or Folder - Kill Dupes in All Folders What is a dupe? If I get the same message but with different headers, is it still a dupe? ztrader -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Scanning for Duplicate Emails - A 'proper' TBUDL discussion! :)
Januk, Regarding your message dated: 18 September 2000... JA Snip intro to Kill Dupe function JA Unless you're like me and put your folders elsewhere. They are elsewhere, but I can cope with such hardships! JA Kill Dupes uses the message IDs. So two messages in one folder with JA the same message IDs are considered to be duplicates. This may or may JA not be a good assumption, so you are wise in taking some precautions, JA especially if it is critical mail. Excellent. That sounds like exactly the feature I need. It's almost as if those RIT guys predicted what an email-mess I might get myself into - what kindly souls they are... Anyway, thanks Januk for another good solution to one of my questions. Best wishes, Mark. -- - Using TheBat! 1.46c Windows NT 4 0 1381 Service Pack 6 - Just4Fun - Freestuff, Humour and More! - http://just4fun.ipfox.com/ - Mark R Harding The Integrated Systems Group (Vision) Department of Electronics Electrical Engineering The University of Edinburgh, King's Buildings, Mayfield Road Edinburgh. EH9 3JL. Scotland. U.K. Phone: +44 (0)131 650 5662 Fax:+44 (0)131 650 6554 Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] URL:http://www.ee.ed.ac.uk/~mrh/ - PGP-Key Available at: http://www.ee.ed.ac.uk/~mrh/pgp.html - -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Scanning for Duplicate Emails - A 'proper' TBUDL discussion! :)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Mark, On 18 September 2000 at 03:07:33 GMT +0100 (which was 03:07 where I live) Mark R Harding wrote and made these points on the subject of "Scanning for Duplicate Emails - A 'proper' TBUDL discussion! :)": MRH Has anyone used this function such that they can report MRH success/failures and also, what criteria will the "Kill Dupes" MRH use to identify duplicate emails? It uses Message-Id and always works perfectly as a result. There is no confirmation needed because two messages only share a message ID if they are duplicates. MRH The last question I ask because when I integrate the two MRH message-bases into one, the messages collected from Work will MRH display a different 'received date' than the home collected MRH messages. Will this matter? Not at all. Duplicate messages often happen because a delete operation has had the plug pulled before completion and the message is downloaded again at a later collection. So different 'received' stamps are de-rigeur for the operation. HTH - -- Cheers, .\\arck [Marck D. Pearlstone | Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA ] [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] [ PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Body=GET%20MARCKKEY ] Kids Stuff: Water freezes at 32 degrees and boils at 212 degrees. There are 180 degrees between freezing and boiling because there are 180 degrees between north and south. TB! v1.47 Beta/1 S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Secured Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness! iQA/AwUBOcV+xjnkJKuSnc2gEQKu+ACggXcXbxhiNQ6f5fZPiOGPN5/sQJYAnAjQ O/Y0i5d3hMFL729BdXN8p1LA =VnoU -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Scanning for Duplicate Emails - A 'proper' TBUDL discussion! :)
Hello Januk Aggarwal, On Sun, 17 Sep 2000 19:25:38 -0700 GMT your local time, which was Monday, September 18, 2000, 9:25:38 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, Januk Aggarwal wrote: Hello Mark, On Sunday, September 17, 2000 at 03:07:33 GMT +0100 (which was 7:07 PM where I live) witnesses say Mark R Harding typed: Snip intro to Kill Dupe function I have a further question since I imagine that this function simply deletes the messages without showing you a list of what will be deleted first. Correct. (I guess I might be asked to confirm that I really want to delete duplicate emails but I'd like to see what disappears of possible.) Nope, no confirmation message here. consider that the request I made for this feature was caused by being repeatedly cutoff in the midle of a download. Ie same mail would come over and over again. Kill all dupes sorts that out very efficiently except that if you already read the mail you received and deleted them, you would get stuck with the dupes when they came down. Secondly it deletes the first likely read copy on the list, not the oldest one.. I don;t want to risk a test run in case it does something unexpected. You might be wise to make a backup of your mail folders first. (Point Windows Explorer to your TB Mail folder and make a copy of it somewhere.) Usually you can find this folder in: C:\Program Files\The Bat!\Mail Unless you're like me and put your folders elsewhere. Has anyone used this function such that they can report success/failures and also, what criteria will the "Kill Dupes" use to identify duplicate emails? I use it all the time. I haven't had a problem, but then I don't get much critical mail. If I do, I use the park feature. Parked messages won't be deleted. Kill Dupes uses the message IDs. So two messages in one folder with the same message IDs are considered to be duplicates. This may or may not be a good assumption, so you are wise in taking some precautions, especially if it is critical mail. The last question I ask because when I integrate the two message-bases into one, the messages collected from Work will display a different 'received date' than the home collected messages. Will this matter? Nope, just the message ID. I did look in the help file for all this but I'm not seeing anything returned for "Dupes", duplicates or similar... It is a fairly recent addition, and the Help files have not been kept up to date. Although I understand that the RIT guys are looking for a professional tech writer to help them document everything. Best regards, tracer -- Using theBAT 1.46 Beta/3 with Windows NT mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am using FireTalk: 321338 ICQ: on request Website: www.phuketcomputers.com Our special website hosting/mailservers are now operational -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
