Re: Show from during download
Hello Mark, Friday, February 04, 2000, 12:47:08 PM, Mark Aston wrote: The way I achieve this, is to set the maximum size in Account|Properties Mail Management, set to leave on server, download header only. Then if you don't want the message you can use Account|Dispatch Mail On Server to delete it. HTH CGS The last time I did this, I lost the whole mail. Neither did I have it CGS in my INBOX, nor it was left on my POP server ... So I don' trust it ... Confirmed, I had not tried this feature for a while, so I just tested it, it seems once the header is downloaded that the message is gone from the server. I personally don't mind this, I will not download any large messages no matter who they are from, sending large files by mail is very inefficient and I prefer an ftp link. sure, ftp ist much better, but not all have an access to a ftp-server ^^ So, I think it would be fine, if the mail would stay on the server until I (!!) say, that it should be downloaded or deleted! Best regards, Clemens written with TheBat! 1.39 on Windows 98, 4 10 Build A on Saturday, February 05, 2000 at 9:46:24 PM -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Show from during download
Hi Clemens, Saturday, February 05, 2000, 8:47:11 PM, you wrote: Confirmed, I had not tried this feature for a while, so I just tested it, it seems once the header is downloaded that the message is gone from the server. I personally don't mind this, I will not download any large messages no matter who they are from, sending large files by mail is very inefficient and I prefer an ftp link. CGS sure, ftp ist much better, but not all have an access to a ftp-server ^^ CGS So, I think it would be fine, if the mail would stay on the server until CGS I (!!) say, that it should be downloaded or deleted! I agree absolutely, it should do as it says and leave the message on the server if that option is checked. The fact that this "bug" does not worry me does not mean it should not be fixed. However if fixing it means I lose my option to delete large messages then I would be upset. -- Best regards, Mark Using The Bat! 1.41 Beta/3 under Windows 98 4 10 Build 1998 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Show from during download
Hello Mark, Sunday, January 30, 2000, 6:20:32 PM, Mark Aston wrote: Hi Clemens, Sunday, January 30, 2000, 4:55:36 PM, you wrote: CGS Especially when I get very big mails (2MB) I'd like to know, who is CGS the sender. So is it possible to show from during download. Cause it CGS is in the header, it is the first thing to be downloaded and it might CGS be nice, if TheBat would show this during download, so I might cancel CGS it, when i get a big mail from someone I don't want to get it from, so CGS I can delete it through web interface. The way I achieve this, is to set the maximum size in Account|Properties Mail Management, set to leave on server, download header only. Then if you don't want the message you can use Account|Dispatch Mail On Server to delete it. HTH The last time I did this, I lost the whole mail. Neither did I have it in my INBOX, nor it was left on my POP server ... So I don' trust it ... Best regards, Clemens written with TheBat! 1.39 on Windows 98, 4 10 Build A on Friday, February 04, 2000 at 5:02:30 AM -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Show from during download
On Friday, February 04, 2000, 3:47:08 AM, Mark Aston wrote: CGS The last time I did this, I lost the whole mail. Neither did I have it CGS in my INBOX, nor it was left on my POP server ... So I don' trust it ... Confirmed, I had not tried this feature for a while, so I just tested it, it seems once the header is downloaded that the message is gone from the server. I personally don't mind this, I will not download any large messages no matter who they are from, sending large files by mail is very inefficient and I prefer an ftp link. But this should be a bug and a serious one... it's certainly not a feature! TB seems to be imposing your preferences on everyone. You should be able to download the header, and any number of lines you want with the header (to get an idea of what the large message is about)... BUT... you should also have the option of then either downloading or deleting the message from the Server. I've set my download options so that only the headers and a few lines of text in the large messages are downloaded, but I never thought that doing so also deleted the original message from the Server. It's interesting to note RITLabs logic on this: Receive header only if message size if greater than n K bytes - use this option if you do not want to receive large messages from the account. This may be useful when you are away from your home and want to read only significant messages (messages of such kind are usually relatively short) I don't agree with that logic... not at all. Please RITLabs... correct this bug and turn it into a feature by allowing a little flexibility insofar as leaving what happens to the message, up to me. The message was addressed to me, not you, so don't _you_ decide what happens to it. Nick -- --=N.J. (Nick) Andriash=-- [EMAIL PROTECTED] | PGP Key ID: 0x15A98AC2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | PGP Key ID: 0x2924D361 --- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Show from during download
Hi there! On 4 Feb 00, at 12:58, Nick Andriash wrote about "Re: Show from during download": Confirmed, I had not tried this feature for a while, so I just tested it, it seems once the header is downloaded that the message is gone from the server. I personally don't mind this, I will not download any large messages no matter who they are from, sending large files by mail is very inefficient and I prefer an ftp link. But this should be a bug and a serious one... it's certainly not a feature! TB seems to be imposing your preferences on everyone. You should be able to download the header, and any number of lines you want with the header (to get an idea of what the large message is about)... BUT... you should also have the option of then either downloading or deleting the message from the Server. Nick, this bug (yeah, this *is* a very serious bug) has been there for a long time, and RIT labs programmers are certainly aware of what's happening when one uses this feature. It's been pointed out as a bug on numerous occasions, and the formal bug reports have been sent to RIT... Just wait till they fix it, but meanwhile _do_not_ use the "do not download messages larger then" in conjunction with the option "delete messages from the server" if you don't like to loose some of the messages addressed to you. I understand that this is not a workaround, but at least this will save your mail which is likely to just perish otherwise;-( I've set my download options so that only the headers and a few lines of text in the large messages are downloaded, but I never thought that doing so also deleted the original message from the Server. It's interesting to note RITLabs logic on this: snip I don't agree with that logic... not at all. The logic is all right, it's the code that is buggy;-) Please RITLabs... correct this bug and turn it into a feature by allowing a little flexibility insofar as leaving what happens to the message, up to me. The message was addressed to me, not you, so don't _you_ decide what happens to it. Actually, no other option is needed: if one *really* wants to wipe the messages overblowing the limits off the server w/out even downloading them, one might just use the killfilters IMHO. The message size is there in the headers... Therefore the feature "don't d/load messages larger then" is just plain broken and needs to be fixed, or _at_least_ explained in _full_details_ in the docu, since it's really dangerous and the cation cannot be undone. -- SY, Alex (St.Petersburg, Russia) http://mph.phys.spbu.ru/~akiselev --- Thought for the day: In every organization there will always be one person who knows what is going on. This person must be fired. --- PGP public keys on keyservers: 0xA2194BF9 (RSA); 0x214135A2 (DH/DSS) fingerprints: F222 4AEF EC9F 5FA6 7515 910A 2429 9CB1 (RSA) A677 81C9 48CF 16D1 B589 9D33 E7D5 675F 2141 35A2 (DH/DSS) --- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Show from during download
Hello The Bat! ML, Especially when I get very big mails (2MB) I'd like to know, who is the sender. So is it possible to show from during download. Cause it is in the header, it is the first thing to be downloaded and it might be nice, if TheBat would show this during download, so I might cancel it, when i get a big mail from someone I don't want to get it from, so I can delete it through web interface. Best regards, Clemens written with TheBat! 1.39 on Windows 98, 4 10 Build A on Sunday, January 30, 2000 at 5:54:26 PM -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Show from during download
Hi Clemens, Sunday, January 30, 2000, 4:55:36 PM, you wrote: CGS Especially when I get very big mails (2MB) I'd like to know, who is CGS the sender. So is it possible to show from during download. Cause it CGS is in the header, it is the first thing to be downloaded and it might CGS be nice, if TheBat would show this during download, so I might cancel CGS it, when i get a big mail from someone I don't want to get it from, so CGS I can delete it through web interface. The way I achieve this, is to set the maximum size in Account|Properties Mail Management, set to leave on server, download header only. Then if you don't want the message you can use Account|Dispatch Mail On Server to delete it. HTH -- Best regards, Mark Using The Bat! 1.39 under Windows 98 4 10 Build 1998 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Show from during download
Hallo Gary, On Sun, 30 Jan 2000 11:43:20 -0600 GMT (31.01.2000, 01:43 +0800 GMT), Gary wrote: G Is that what "dispatch mail on server" means? It deletes mail left on G server? Help files are sketchy in this area. Have never tried this G function yet. Try it. You can delete, mark as read/unread, download... there is no harm if you try the option and then just don't do anything. -- Cheers, Thomas mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.39 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
