Re: TB Home and TB 'proffesional' :-)
Hello MAU, On 3 Sep 2004 at 23:40:24 +0200 GMT [23:40 CEST] you wrote: M I think I've read somewhere, maybe in TBBeta, that the light will be M discontinued. But don't take my word for it. Do you have any idea what I thought when I read this? I was like I don't want light to be discontinued. It's so dark without light! -- Cheers, The Bat! 2.12.00 on Andre Windows XP Service Pack 2 Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. ~ George Orwell Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB Home and TB 'proffesional' :-)
Hello Andre, Do you have any idea what I thought when I read this? I was like I don't want light to be discontinued. It's so dark without light! :-)) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.123 Beta/Umpteen Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
TB Home and TB 'proffesional' :-)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello TBUDL; wind please your ears up and hear... Just finished download of Pro version via my lazy dial-up. Installed and saw it is *completely same* exe as Home version. (-: People... (-; Is there some limit of this... modern style... URL http://www.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/thebat_professional.msi Comment none (-: Referer Resume Yes Local File H:\Download\thebat_professional.msi File Date File Size 8415744 Completed 8415744 Total Time 00:47:25 Average Speed 2.89 KB/S Create Time 09/02/04 19:06:06 Complete Time 09/03/04 02:49:48 URL http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_home.msi Comment Referer Resume Yes Local File H:\Download\thebat_home.msi File Date File Size 4155392 Completed 4155392 Total Time 00:23:31 Average Speed 2.88 KB/S Create Time 09/01/04 02:40:42 Complete Time 09/01/04 03:05:44 I am... sort of angry (-; just for this waste of my ISP time. I just *could*, perhaps, imagine what are the feelings, and wishes (;, of those whose investments were much bigger... And btw, some filtering mess again caused, with Pro edition, that about 70 messages are deleted from my server, via CCent., not downloading them and this time even without data of it in the LOG... (Yet, Ctrl+Shift+A always again opens LOG winblow resized to the default size, which is actually insanely miniature, so you have to constantly stretch it out to *see* what's inside.) I just briefly saw one from Subscriber and am not sure if it is targeted to a list or to me privately. All the messages till the one of (Thu, 2 Sep 2004 22:21:33 -0400), I have received, so please if were any after that till about 1 hour after, please resend (if you find it important, or else. I mean or whatever reason for resending you [all]/y'all might find). I wouldn't want to make impression that I ignore your mail. (-: (There are people who are *paid* for it. g) Please bear in mind I'm getting lots of mail these few days, and telling most of it relates to the mess RITLabs made - all over the globe. (-: I can't recall that I saw something like that ever. (Pardon my syntax.) And, for the :fan: :fan: of smileys, a :grin: . PS - Many novices even do not notice what happens, but advanced users (the former main group of TB users) are simply flabbergasted, hanging around the Edge of a hysterical sniggering and a serious, and acute, madness. Beware. (-: And lots of good luck. g - -- Mica PGP key uploaded at: http://pgp.mit.edu/ once just before breakfast -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQFBOIDD9q62QPd3XuIRApJdAKCVkQyW6ugMI0OnFmS8XS+TAnzBHACfcBUE HrWyM1ZeEhPR+VfNK5sl2ms= =9m8I -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB Home and TB 'proffesional' :-)
Hello Mica, Just finished download of Pro version via my lazy dial-up. Installed and saw it is *completely same* exe as Home version. (-: The executables (thebat.exe) ere identical at the moment, but they will be a little different in the near future (Pro will actually be previous SecureBat). The difference in download size is because Pro includes the Intpack (for multi-language UI and spell checking) while for Home you have to download it separately. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.123 Beta/Umpteen Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB Home and TB 'proffesional' :-)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was Fri, 3 Sep 2004, at 17:00:38 +0200, @ @ when MAU wrote: Hello Mica, Just finished download of Pro version via my lazy dial-up. Installed and saw it is *completely same* exe as Home version. (-: The executables (thebat.exe) ere identical at the moment, but they will be a little different in the near future (Pro will actually be previous SecureBat). The difference in download size is because Pro includes the Intpack (for multi-language UI and spell checking) while for Home you have to download it separately. Miguel, I am not sure that you are aware of what you are talking about. (-: The *release* version, which is only *one*, identical, executable file is presented to the customers and to the public as *two* different variants exe files, one as Home and one as Pro; it is exposed to the public download, and it is already *selling* all around the globe - as *two different* products, by different prices. Are you aware of the mess? (-: So, what does that mean in the near future? Do the customers pay for this in the near feature as well? I do not grow even a slightest idea that RL did it for cheating people, since it would be so obviously weak-minded and hilarious, but am more prone to think, and feel, that something pretty wrong happens (more and more intensively, as of the v1.6 on) there, perhaps some crack or similar. This is the only idea which could fit in this tremendous inconsistency shown in reasoning and work results. It's not anymore about some omissions or business 'strategy' - it's a complete disintegration of system and breaking relation with reality. I mean it. No any kidding or humor here. It is entirely serious. I understand loyalty as well. But helping someone in ruining is not loyal in any way. Even if it's done just by justification. - -- Mica PGP key uploaded at: http://pgp.mit.edu/ once just before breakfast -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQFBOJOO9q62QPd3XuIRAipMAKCNiMPPSg2M8kXOLRfI7mPrB+zagACgglDZ mm0NIZEpHFemtQuB/oNGnjc= =fAWf -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB Home and TB 'proffesional' :-)
Hello Mica, The *release* version, which is only *one*, identical, executable file is presented to the customers and to the public as *two* different variants exe files, one as Home and one as Pro; it is exposed to the public download, and it is already *selling* all around the globe - as *two different* products, by different prices. I just think that Home and Pro are just new names for Personal and Business licenses in previous versions. Same product but with different license prices depending on what you are going to use it for. Aside of that, 3.0 Pro will include (as an option) the security and encryption that SecureBat did in the past and the Home edition will not have this as an option. Maxim Masiutin, from Ritlabs, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on TBBeta: The Bat! 3.0 brings changes into the licence types. Now there will be two licence packages available: - Home (for home usage) - Professional (for commercial activity and advanced users) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.123 Beta/Umpteen Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: TB Home and TB 'proffesional' :-)
Friday, September 3, 2004, 9:00:38 AM, you wrote: M Hello Mica, Just finished download of Pro version via my lazy dial-up. Installed and saw it is *completely same* exe as Home version. (-: M The executables (thebat.exe) ere identical at the moment, but they will M be a little different in the near future (Pro will actually be previous M SecureBat). The difference in download size is because Pro includes the M Intpack (for multi-language UI and spell checking) while for Home you M have to download it separately. So is the student version just a discounted home version? It would be nice if they had a actual student version of the pro version. ;-) -- David Shepherd [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.davidshep.net Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB Home and TB 'proffesional' :-)
Hello David, On Fri, 3 Sep 2004, David mused about TB Home and TB 'proffesional' :-) (at least in part): DSSo is the student version just a discounted home version? It would DS be nice if they had a actual student version of the pro version. ;-) I upgraded to Student and the key worked in professional. So, I guess it does not matter which version, if your a student. -- Michael L. Wilson, MBA Ecclesiastic Philosopher Critic Teacher :einsteinyoyo: == Using The Bat! 3.0 Windows XP 5.1 (2600-Service Pack 2) Ponder this: Worry is a misuse of the imagination. = Spam Stats, last 24 hours (BayesIt! 0.6.00) Total Spam Emails: 48 Total Clean Emails: 18 BayesIT guessed right 99.895833% of the time My email is 72.727273% spam = morning dayevening == 10:57 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB Home and TB 'proffesional' :-)
Hello Michael, I upgraded to Student . . . Teacher ;-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.123 Beta/Umpteen Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB Home and TB 'proffesional' :-)
Hello MAU, On Fri, 3 Sep 2004, MAU mused about TB Home and TB 'proffesional' :-) (at least in part): M Hello Michael, I upgraded to Student M . M . M . Teacher M ;-) If they want to screw me, I like to return the favor. Actually, I am a student of bad marketing and bad support. That is why I use The Bat! -- Michael L. Wilson, MBA Ecclesiastic Philosopher Critic Teacher :einsteinyoyo: == Using The Bat! 3.0 Windows XP 5.1 (2600-Service Pack 2) Ponder this: Too many in the media act as if decency is a violation of the First Amendment. = Spam Stats, last 24 hours (BayesIt! 0.6.00) Total Spam Emails: 55 Total Clean Emails: 19 BayesIT guessed right 99.890909% of the time My email is 74.324324% spam = morning dayevening 11:52 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB Home and TB 'proffesional' :-)
Hello Michael, If they want to screw me, I like to return the favor. Actually, I am a student of bad marketing and bad support. That is why I use The Bat! . . Ecclesiastic Philosopher Do you also teach Ethics? ;-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.123 Beta/Umpteen Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB Home and TB 'proffesional' :-)
Hello MAU, On Fri, 3 Sep 2004, MAU mused about TB Home and TB 'proffesional' :-) (at least in part): M Do you also teach Ethics? ;-) Yes I do. Business, religious and personal: your choice. In addition to all that is happening, Ritlabs said they would give 100 licenses to schools that asked. Our executive director has sent nine emails and tried to call twice asking how to get this. No reponse on all accounts. So, he has published a memo saying that The Bat! is not to be installed or used on any campus computer. He thinks it is all a scam. So, I could have gotten my license for free -- Michael L. Wilson, MBA Ecclesiastic Philosopher Critic Teacher :einsteinyoyo: == Using The Bat! 3.0 Windows XP 5.1 (2600-Service Pack 2) Ponder this: We don't stop playing because we grow old, we grow old because we stop playing. = Spam Stats, last 24 hours (BayesIt! 0.6.00) Total Spam Emails: 59 Total Clean Emails: 21 BayesIT guessed right 99.898305% of the time My email is 73.75% spam = morning dayevening =12:26 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB Home and TB 'proffesional' :-)
Hello MAU, On Friday, September 3, 2004, 6:39:25 PM, you wrote: M Aside of that, 3.0 Pro will include (as an option) the M security and encryption that SecureBat did in the past and the M Home edition will not have this as an option. There is an SecureBat with e-token and a SecureBat light. Will the Pro version als work as the light version (in the future) so you do not have to use the e-token? -- Cheers, Edgar Communicating with TB! v2.12.00, Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 Zaphod Beeblebrox: Computer, if you don't open that exit hatch pretty damn pronto, I shall go straight to your major data banks with a very large axe and give you a reprogramming you will never forget, capisco? [Pause] Okay. Get the axe. To request my public key select this url: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpR50XXPTEZI.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB Home and TB 'proffesional' :-)
Hello Edgar, There is an SecureBat with e-token and a SecureBat light. Will the Pro version als work as the light version (in the future) so you do not have to use the e-token? I think I've read somewhere, maybe in TBBeta, that the light will be discontinued. But don't take my word for it. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.123 Beta/Umpteen Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
