Re: That Spell Checker

[Jim Kyle]

Wednesday, January 8, 2014, 5:06:11 PM, you wrote:

> My guess would be it doesn't matter too much, unless something
> relevant to this function changed between those version numbers. There
> would be some logic in picking the number closest to your TB! version,
> as there were less releases in between where things may have been
> changed. Or try both..

Thanks for the help! I did some more searching on the drive that holds TB;
it's not the system drive itself but another, larger one. I found a couple
of copies of the whole TB directory, stemming from long-ago disasters, and
one of them held three *.TLX files. One of them was the AM version; the
others are named ACCENT.TLX and CORRECT.TLX. Apparently the last time I
installed TB, some 5 or 6 years ago, I somehow failed to get the spell
checker fully functional although enough of it did get in to provide me the
squiggly red line beneath unrecognized words. I copied all three over to
the active directory where the international pack had put all the others,
re-started TB, and everything now seems to work properly or at least as I
would expect. I can add words, both as words to be accepted and as words to
be corrected, and they persist from day to day.

The only question I have left involves the format of TLX files; I'd like to
find a help file or article that exposes their details. They appear to be
plain text, one word to a line, and entries in the WinXP registry tell TB
which of them to use -- but they have a few mysteries, and I always want to
know what goes on behind the curtain (as in "Undocumented DOS," a book I
co-authored some 23 years ago). I'm also curious about the ACCENT.TLX file
and why it's different from the language-specific ones...

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Re: That Spell Checker

[MFPA]

Hi


On Wednesday 8 January 2014 at 4:41:12 AM, in
, Jim Kyle wrote:

> Correct! I've now downloaded both those. Do I just run
> the installer" Since my TB is 4.2.36, I presume I
> should install the 4.0 version rather than 4.2.28.
> Right?  

My guess would be it doesn't matter too much, unless something
relevant to this function changed between those version numbers. There
would be some logic in picking the number closest to your TB! version,
as there were less releases in between where things may have been
changed. Or try both...

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Re: That Spell Checker

[MFPA]

Hi


On Wednesday 8 January 2014 at 5:20:16 AM, in
, Jim Kyle wrote:



> I've now installed the 4.0 international pack, and have
> both British and American checked on the Languages
> dialog -- but still no American English dictionary
> shows up. Apparently having British checked overrides
> it. Any suggestion for being able to add words to the
> American English dictionary?  


Here, in TB! Pro 4.0.38 with just British English ticked, I can add or
delete words in dictionaries for about 17 languages. (Well, I tried 
about three languages including American English; I wasn't about to 
try all of them.)

If you can't see the American dictionary in the menu, I guess it
didn't install. Maybe you can select which languages to install when
running the International Pack installer? Can you add words to any 
language's dictionary other than British English?


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Re: That Spell Checker

[Roger Phillips]

Hello Jim,
Wednesday, January 8, 2014, 6:41:12 AM, among other things, you wrote:

JK> Tuesday, January 7, 2014, 7:16:34 PM, you wrote:

>> Maybe  you  have  TB!   Home  and don't currently have the "International
>> Pack" installed?

JK> Correct! I've now downloaded both those. Do I just run the installer" Since
JK> my TB is 4.2.36, I presume I should install the 4.0 version rather than
JK> 4.2.28. Right?

You just have to install the "International Pack"


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Re: That Spell Checker

[Paul Berger]

Hello TBUDL@thebat.,

Wednesday, January 8, 2014, 3:41:12 PM, you wrote:

JK> Tuesday, January 7, 2014, 7:16:34 PM, you wrote:

>> Maybe you have TB! Home and don't currently have the "International 
>> Pack" installed?

JK> Correct! I've now downloaded both those. Do I just run the installer" Since
JK> my TB is 4.2.36, I presume I should install the 4.0 version rather than
JK> 4.2.28. Right?



The International Pack is a separate program so you can uninstall it
later if you don't like it.


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Re: That Spell Checker

[Jim Kyle]

Tuesday, January 7, 2014, 7:16:34 PM, you wrote:

> Maybe you have TB! Home and don't currently have the "International 
> Pack" installed?

I've now installed the 4.0 international pack, and have both British and
American checked on the Languages dialog -- but still no American English
dictionary shows up. Apparently having British checked overrides it. Any
suggestion for being able to add words to the American English dictionary?

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Re: That Spell Checker

[Jim Kyle]

Tuesday, January 7, 2014, 7:16:34 PM, you wrote:

> Maybe you have TB! Home and don't currently have the "International 
> Pack" installed?

Correct! I've now downloaded both those. Do I just run the installer" Since
my TB is 4.2.36, I presume I should install the 4.0 version rather than
4.2.28. Right?

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Re: That Spell Checker

[MFPA]

Hi


On Monday 6 January 2014 at 8:09:40 PM, in
, Jim Kyle wrote:


> My question is how to update my dictionary, or possibly
> install an alternate such as hunspell's en-us.zip
> package, on such an old copy of TB. 


Maybe you have TB! Home and don't currently have the "International 
Pack" installed?

See  for
differences between TB! Home and Pro.

International Pack version 4.2.38 or 4.0.36 is still available from
RITlabs website at
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Re: That Spell Checker

[Jim Kyle]

Thursday, December 19, 2013, 1:30:42 PM, you wrote:

> is yours SSCE or hunspell?

I have a similar question about spell checking, but as you can see by mysig
I'm on a much older version of TB. My spell checking options don't list ANY
dictionary at all, and attempting to add a word has absolutely no effect. I
do have import and export buttons, and my TB program directory includes a
hunspell.dll but I don't see any references in the option menus.

My question is how to update my dictionary, or possibly install an
alternate such as hunspell's en-us.zip package, on such an old copy of TB.
TB has evolved in a direction that seems of no use for my needs, which is
why I'm still on such an old package. The spell checker is the only wart on
it, for my uses, and it's not bad enough to cause me to change (which would
be going completely away, if I did, and I'm unwilling to abandon the great
filtering capability of TB!)...

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Re: That Spell Checker

[MFPA]

Hi


On Friday 20 December 2013 at 9:20:48 PM, in
, Chasonek wrote:


> On my computer I see both SSCE & Hunspell, but my wife
> only sees SSCE, and  the problem that I see is that I
> have MS Office installed and she does not. 


In my case, MS Office is present and I only see SSCE in TB!'s spell 
checker settings (Hunspell is greyed out).



> I have tryed
> to get her to install MS Office, but she won't let me,
> to see if that is the diffence?

Maybe you could set up a test windows account, install TB! there and 
see if Hunspell and SSCE are both present. If not, install MS Office 
there as well, and then see if Hunspell and SSCE are both present.
 


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Re: That Spell Checker

[Chasonek]

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Thursday, December 19, 2013, 11:55:28 AM, you wrote:

Scuddy> Hello Robert,
Scuddy>   A reminder of what Robert D. typed on:
Scuddy>   Thursday, December 19, 2013 at 14:30:42 GMT -0500

RD>> I see talking in mine now but the list of absurd words, like my last
RD>> name, is still tehre.

RD>> is yours SSCE or hunspell?

Scuddy> I think SSCE because all my Hunspell options are greyed out.


On my computer I see both SSCE & Hunspell, but my wife only sees SSCE,
and  the problem that I see is that I have MS Office installed and she
does not.
I have tryed to get her to install MS Office, but she won't let me, to
see if that is the diffence?

Chas

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Re: That Spell Checker

[Fred]

> I wonder if they are words you added yourself. For example you would
> probably added your last name because the spell checker would not see it
> as being spelled correctly, so you would add it so it wasn't always
> underlined with the squiggly red line.

I'd suggest going to the Spell Checker menu in a The Bat editor, and
clicking on Dictionaries. Check each Dictionary's content (starting with
"correct.tlx") and "rummage around" a bit, looking for words that could be
deleted and/or added (being careful to chose the correct Action for any you
add), etc. It's difficult for me to describe more exactly what I think you
should do there (not knowing exactly what you'd find there), but it's worth
at least doing some investigating in that Edit Dictionaries dialog box.

You can also open the non-compressed *.tlx dictionaries (on my PC, they're
"accent.tlx", "correct.tlx", and "Ssceam.tlx", and are located at
"C:\Users\fred\AppData\Roaming\TheBat!\Speller\") in a text editor (e.g.,
NotePad) for examination. However, I would ~not~ recommend editing them
there, unless you are fully aware of their file formatting - examine them
there if you wish, but edit them through the Edit Dictionaries dialog box.

PERHAPS, BEFORE TRYING ~ANY~ OF MY SUGGESTIONS ABOVE, YOU SHOULD FIRST MAKE
BACKUP COPIES OF YOUR USER DICTIONARIES BEFORE MAKING ~ANY~ CHANGES.

[The compressed *.clx dictionary or dictionaries (on my PC I have
"Ssceam2.clx" located at "C:\Program Files (x86)\TheBat!\Speller\") is/are
binary, and can't be edited in a text editor. (I also have copies of
"accent.tlx", "correct.tlx", and "Ssceam.tlx" at that location, but I
figure they are not actually my user dictionaries, but perhaps are
templates for my actual user dictionaries.)]

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Re: That Spell Checker

[Rick]

I have noticed this too. I have a word that I added keep popping up 
inappropriately.

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Re: That Spell Checker

[MFPA]

Hi


On Thursday 19 December 2013 at 8:13:31 PM, in
, Robert D. wrote:



> What I men is I can't come up with a reason for many,
> of about 15 which appear.

Some of the suggestions I see for "takling" are a little odd, 
especially the list shown if I click "Suggest more" 
One entry there is "Stalin"

> just wondered if there was another setting or config
> I'd botched to allow for trivial results too.  

I'm only aware of picking the language, importing different 
dictionaries if those present don't suit you, and the options pane 
that includes such choices as phonetic suggestions, typographical 
suggestions, slow but accurate.




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Re: That Spell Checker

[scuddy]

Hello Robert,
  A reminder of what Robert D. typed on:
  Thursday, December 19, 2013 at 15:13:31 GMT -0500

RD> OK, same here.

RD> Then when 'suggestions' do come up for you,  are there ancillary, even
RD> whimsical suggestions?

I wonder if they are words you added yourself. For example you would probably 
added your last name because the spell checker would not see it as being 
spelled 
correctly, so you would add it so it wasn't always underlined with the squiggly 
red line.

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Re: That Spell Checker

[Robert D.]

Hello Scuddy,

Thursday, December 19, 2013, 2:55:28 PM, you wrote:



> I think SSCE because all my Hunspell options are greyed out.

OK, same here.

Then when 'suggestions' do come up for you,  are there ancillary, even
whimsical suggestions?

What I men is I can't come up with a reason for many, of about 15 which
appear.

just wondered if there was another setting or config I'd botched to
allow for trivial results too.



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Re: That Spell Checker

[scuddy]

Hello Robert,
  A reminder of what Robert D. typed on:
  Thursday, December 19, 2013 at 14:30:42 GMT -0500

RD> I see talking in mine now but the list of absurd words, like my last
RD> name, is still tehre.

RD> is yours SSCE or hunspell?

I think SSCE because all my Hunspell options are greyed out.

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Re: That Spell Checker

[Robert D.]

Hello Stuart,

Thursday, December 19, 2013, 1:50:30 PM, you wrote:

>

> Hmm, typing takling here brings up exactly what you would expect.
> talking
> taking 
> tackling

> I have English/American selected.

I see talking in mine now but the list of absurd words, like my last
name, is still tehre.

is yours SSCE or hunspell?



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Re: That Spell Checker

[Stuart Cuddy]

Hello Robert,
  A reminder of what Robert D. typed on:
  Thursday, December 19, 2013 at 13:25:27 GMT -0500

RD> what can I do?

RD> takling

RD> brings up, amongst other choices EXCEPT for talking: My last name;
RD> balun; along; asking; duckling; tabling; taking, and so forth

Hmm, typing takling here brings up exactly what you would expect.
talking
taking 
tackling

I have English/American selected.

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That Spell Checker

[Robert D.]

what can I do?

takling

brings up, amongst other choices EXCEPT for talking: My last name;
balun; along; asking; duckling; tabling; taking, and so forth

SSCE seems selected with Case, typo , select check-marked

I just had the issue with 'takling' .. but this happens in nearly every
single typographical error I make .. my name is always there  as well as
other silly guesses. Many times, as with this example, the actual US
word is not to be seen.




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