Re[2]: The Bat ver 2.11.x and IMAP problems; TheBat vs T-Bird
Hello Allie, Wednesday, June 9, 2004, 8:58:22 AM, you wrote: AM> Sl, [S] wrote: S>> On another matter...re ThunderBird vs The Bat!...tell me again S>> Allie (and others) what you see as the merits/demerits of both. snipola AM> I think my having to use ThunderBird has been misunderstood. AM> There are many features in TB! that ThunderBird lacks and I don't see AM> them as nice features to just have anyway. snipola AM> I'd never really entertain comparing the two once you're up and going AM> with reading mail as I now am with TB! at work. Now that TB!'s IMAP AM> works well enough for me to read mail from work, the thought of using AM> ThunderBird is now laughable. They simply don't compare once we get AM> beyond basic fetching and reading of messages. So, I take it you prefer The Bat over T-Bird ;-) [Seriously tho...ta for your thoughts.. ] -- Regards, Steve Love (basic fetcher and reader ;-) 20:18 Wednesday, 9 June 2004 Using The Bat! v2.10.03 on Windows 98 4.10 Build B Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat ver 2.11.x and IMAP problems; TheBat vs T-Bird
Hello Allie, On Tuesday, June 8, 2004, 5:58 PM, Allie Martin wrote: AM> Sl, [S] wrote: S>> On another matter...re ThunderBird vs The Bat!...tell me again S>> Allie (and others) what you see as the merits/demerits of both. An S>> obvious difference is TheBat does SO much more...(much of which may S>> be superfluous to many users...eg like DVD players ...or cigarette S>> lighters...in cars )...but could be nice to have anyway...just in S>> case...(Besides...its nice to have options anyway... ;-) AM> All ThunderBird has is good/reliable IMAP support. It has nothing AM> else really. There are some extensions currently available, but AM> none that offer any real functionality. Agreed. I've also been using Thunderbird off-and-on for my IMAP accounts because it (a)has extremely stable IMAP support, and (b)is free. But beyond reliable bare-bones functions, it really doesn't have much to offer at this point. When I'm using Thunderbird, I particularly miss the message templates, the elegant handling of identities, and the super-flexible filtering. Everyone probably has their own lists of features of TB! that they've grown to find essential, but those are the first that spring to mind for me. AM> Now that TB!'s IMAP works well enough for me to read mail from AM> work, the thought of using ThunderBird is now laughable. They AM> simply don't compare once we get beyond basic fetching and reading AM> of messages. While I'm very excited at the prospect of TB! providing reliable IMAP support, I'm personally not quite ready to break out the champagne yet. I've experienced enough intermittent bizarre IMAP behavior with TB! that I'm unwilling to un-install Thunderbird and rely solely on TB! for IMAP at this point, and I certainly won't be using TB! on my work machine until it is at least 95% stable. Hopefully that level of stability will be reached in the next release (I just installed the latest beta on my 'play' machine and it looks good so far -- fingers crossed!). -- Sean H. using TB! 2.11.03 on Windows XP Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat ver 2.11.x and IMAP problems; TheBat vs T-Bird
Allie Martin, [AM] wrote: AM> There are some extensions currently available, but none that offer AM> any real functionality. Ooops! In all fairness, I forgot about the Enigmail/EnigMIME extension. This one was nice to use since you could autoPGP/MIME sign and also autoverify signed messages. I really enjoyed this but it's really no great loss when compared to all that TB! functionality I was not able to tap on while at the office. -- -=[ Allie ]=- (List Moderator and fellow end-user) PGPKeys: http://key.ac-martin.com Running The Bat! v2.11.03 on WinXP Pro (SP1) pgp5UYiUPu5Xu.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat ver 2.11.x and IMAP problems; TheBat vs T-Bird
Sl, [S] wrote: S> On another matter...re ThunderBird vs The Bat!...tell me again S> Allie (and others) what you see as the merits/demerits of both. An S> obvious difference is TheBat does SO much more...(much of which may S> be superfluous to many users...eg like DVD players ...or cigarette S> lighters...in cars )...but could be nice to have anyway...just in S> case...(Besides...its nice to have options anyway... ;-) I think my having to use ThunderBird has been misunderstood. There are many features in TB! that ThunderBird lacks and I don't see them as nice features to just have anyway. I find them *essential* to effectively and efficiently managing my mail. All ThunderBird has is good/reliable IMAP support. It has nothing else really. There are some extensions currently available, but none that offer any real functionality. When I couldn't read any messages with TB! on my slow connection at work, ThunderBird was a better solution since it converted my situation from one of not being able to read IMAP mail from work to being able to do so. ThunderBird proved to be a solution for me at this very basic level. I'd never really entertain comparing the two once you're up and going with reading mail as I now am with TB! at work. Now that TB!'s IMAP works well enough for me to read mail from work, the thought of using ThunderBird is now laughable. They simply don't compare once we get beyond basic fetching and reading of messages. -- -=[ Allie ]=- (List Moderator and fellow end-user) PGPKeys: http://key.ac-martin.com Running The Bat! v2.11.03 on WinXP Pro (SP1) pgpqxuUOh1UDr.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
The Bat ver 2.11.x and IMAP problems; TheBat vs T-Bird
Hi BatPersons Someone asked (sorry...can't find the original message) if there were more IMAP-related problems with TB with versions 2.1.x It may be coincidence, but I had no problems with TB 'till ver 2.11.x (as you can see I am now back to ver 2.10.x). I had database errors...which I was unable to repair, then repeated messages from Windows re Runtime Errors (which I don't understand). Of course...these problems may have had nothing whatsoever to do with IMAP and TB versions 2.11.x...but rather a simple database erroror index file error...which was compounded by the ineptitude of the operator ;-) Anyway...I am now more conscientious about regular backups in TheBat!...a tres cool feature IMO. On another matter...re ThunderBird vs The Bat!...tell me again Allie (and others) what you see as the merits/demerits of both. An obvious difference is TheBat does SO much more...(much of which may be superfluous to many users...eg like DVD players ...or cigarette lighters...in cars )...but could be nice to have anyway...just in case...(Besides...its nice to have options anyway... ;-) -- Regards, Steve Lovemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 08:16 Wednesday, 9 June 2004 Using The Bat! v2.10.03 (Protocol:IMAP for my main account; POP3 for the other two)on Windows 98 4.10 Build B Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
