Re: Using TB! as a mail server?

2000-04-14 Thread Leif Gregory

Hello Mark, 

On Thu, 13 Apr 2000 at 10:55:19 [GMT +0100], you wrote:
MRH My question is therefore, is there anyway to setup TB! (using
MRH this server mode) that would allow me to use TB! as a client away
MRH from the office and access my message bases held on my office
MRH machine?

I believe you are referencing the how-to on setting up TB as a
*mailing list* server. This is quite a bit different than having a
mail server.

There are a few ways in which you could sort-of do what you are
asking.

1. By far the easiest, is to use an IMAP compliant mail server for
   your messages. While TB v1.x doesn't quite support IMAP fully, I
   have found it sufficient for my needs. Unfortunately, this would be
   a problem because you said that you have multiple accounts set up
   to collect your mail from different places to put into the main
   account.

2. Enable the "keep messages on server" in the account properties at
   both home and work. This will let you get your mail at work and at
   home. What you will want to do then is to set up an incoming filter
   on the home machine with an action of "delete message from server"
   option enabled. You will have to fiddle around with the filter
   string, but it shouldn't be too hard. This option also does not
   help with the multiple account set-up you have.

3. Set up a filter to forward or redirect all incoming mail on your
   work machine to send to your home e-mail address. This one does
   address your multi-account set-up, but you will have to most likely
   include the forwarding/redirect filter in each account. I haven't
   tested it, but if TB considers moved messages to one account from
   another account as an incoming message, then you might be able to
   get away with just having the forward/redirect filter in the main
   account. I doubt it though.

4. Set up a filter that exports each incoming message to a designated
   folder, and then ftp those exported messages from home and import
   them into TB. You'll have to set up this filter for each account
   you have.

With exception to option 1, these aren't the greatest ideas. However,
this is what option 1 was designed for; to be able to access your
mailbox(s) with all its messages from multiple computers.



Leif Gregory 

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Re: Using TB! as a mail server?

2000-04-14 Thread Thomas Fernandez

Hi Leif,

On Fri, 14 Apr 2000 07:33:20 +0900GMT (14/04/2000, 06:33 +0800GMT),
Leif Gregory wrote:

LG 3. Set up a filter to forward or redirect all incoming mail on your
LGwork machine to send to your home e-mail address. This one does
LGaddress your multi-account set-up, but you will have to most likely
LGinclude the forwarding/redirect filter in each account. I haven't
LGtested it, but if TB considers moved messages to one account from
LGanother account as an incoming message,

A message coming in from anywhere, such as a redirected or forwarded
message, is regarded as an incoming message and the filters will kick
in. Same holds true for a messages sent from one account and BCC'ed to
itself: when the BCC copy arrives, it's an incoming message and the
filters work. Since I BCC all my private mail to myself when I send
from my office computer, I have a "delete message/mark message as
read" incoming filter on my office computer for the BCC copies. On the
home machine, they are treated as incoming mails and sorted into the
appropriate folders. You wouldn't know the difference if they were
sent by that machine and sorted into the folder by an outgoing folder.

LG then you might be able to get away with just having the
LG forward/redirect filter in the main account. I doubt it though.

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Re: Using TB! as a mail server?

2000-04-14 Thread Januk Aggarwal

Hello Thomas,


On  Thursday, April 13, 2000  at  14:47:15 GMT +0800 (which was 11:47 PM
where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed:

 A message coming in from anywhere,


 Perhaps a picky point, but if you filter messages from account A to
 the inbox of Account B they are not treated as incoming messages.  At
 least I could never get Account B's incoming message filters to
 work, despite having "Continue Processing with other filters"
 selected in all my filter sets.
 


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Re: Using TB! as a mail server?

2000-04-14 Thread Thomas Fernandez

Hi Januk,

On Fri, 14 Apr 2000 02:08:19 -0700GMT (14/04/2000, 17:08 +0800GMT),
Januk Aggarwal wrote:

 A message coming in from anywhere,

JA  Perhaps a picky point, but if you filter messages from account A to
JA  the inbox of Account B they are not treated as incoming messages.

Correct. I misunderstood the situation.

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Re: Using TB! as a mail server?

2000-04-14 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone

Hi Januk,

On 14 April 2000 at 02:08:19 GMT -0700 (which was 10:08 where I
live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote and made these points on the subject
of "Using TB! as a mail server?":

 Perhaps a picky point, but if you filter messages from account A to
 the inbox of Account B they are not treated as incoming messages. At
 least I could never get Account B's incoming message filters to
 work, despite having "Continue Processing with other filters"
 selected in all my filter sets.
 
While  this is true, you could always use the "Redirect" option as the
filter  action to send the message on to the correct account. With the
"Local  delivery  option"  enabled  the desired effect could easily be
achieved.

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Re[2]: Using TB! as a mail server?

2000-04-14 Thread Mark R Harding

Leif,

Regarding your message dated: Thursday, April 13, 2000...

LG I believe you are referencing the how-to on setting up TB as a
LG *mailing list* server. This is quite a bit different than having a
LG mail server.

Actually, what I had seen was the settings option available under...

  Options/Network  Administration/   (main TB! Window)

where you can setup a machine as either...

  1: Workstation with TCP/IP. *** what I currently use ***
  2: TCP/IP or Dial out server.   *** the option I saw ***
  3: Non-TCP/IP Workstation.

 (You also set this when installing TB! as I recall)

Although I doubted it I thought it might be cool if TB! could act as
it's own 'virtual mail server' (for want of a better expression)
whereby I could perhaps remotely login to TB! running on my office
machine at work in order to access the TB! accounts (which access my
chosen email accounts) I have there.  I imagined this as a kind of
fudge instead of using IMAP to access my actual email accounts.

This whole affair was initiated when I was working from home recently
and I wanted to check a message I had received some weeks earlier.
Despite a fastidious use of filing to keep my messages sorted (~80
folders, ~80 filters although not a 1-to-1 correlation there actually)
I was annoyed to find that the message base file for the mail folder I
was after was some 10mb in size which over a 56K connection is too
painful to bear.  I ended up having to login to a unix box at work,
(since my machine has no telnet server running) and ftp the message
base file from the PC to the unix box (quite quick with an intranet)
at which point I could then access the file using the command-line
viewers. (less/more, take your pick.)  Strangely I did not consider
this ideal.  Anyway...

Thanks for the comprehensive reply by the way.  The advice was
appreciated because it gave me some ideas for the coming months.  I
currently keep all my mail on the office machine (since it has the
better network connection) and I use the 'leave on server' option when
I check mail from remote locations such as home.

I'm thinking about all these issues now in anticipation of moving on
from my present position in the fall at which point I'll need to
'gather up my possessions.'  The most likely route to completely
satisfy that right now would be a wholesale copy of my account folders
onto another machine (say at home...) in which case I hope we get
writable DVD here in the office before I go...

Hope that wasn't too much like rambling...

Cheers,

Mark


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Re[2]: Using TB! as a mail server?

2000-04-14 Thread SyP

Hello Januk and TB users,

Januk Aggarwal wrote at 4/14/2000, 11:08 AM

JA  Perhaps a picky point, but if you filter messages from account A to
JA  the inbox of Account B they are not treated as incoming messages.  At
JA  least I could never get Account B's incoming message filters to
JA  work, despite having "Continue Processing with other filters"
JA  selected in all my filter sets.

That was discussed before:
Allie Martin wrote at 3/24/2000, 2:17 PM

AM Though I'm a bit uncertain about the precise purpose of that
AM option to "Continue processing with other filters", I know that it has
AM nothing to do with running filters for separate accounts one after the
AM other. Each accounts filtering has to be executed separately.

SYP Is there any way for filters to work throughout accounts?
AM Not the way that you're indicating.

Note that I would certainly support this idea. :)

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Using TB! as a mail server?

2000-04-13 Thread Mark R Harding

Hi TBUDL,

I have noted that TB! can be used as a mail server and I wondered if
the possible situation could be solved by using TB! in the following
way.

I use TB! from work and have one main account which I use for all my
email.  (I setup other accounts to simply feed into this one main
account.)  I have my own machine at work so I can happily leave TB! on
when I leave at night.

If I spend a day out of the office and wish to check my account I can
generally do this so long as I closed TB! (or stopped it offloading
messages from our server via POP3) before I left the office.

However, I have no access then to my stored messages in the account
used by TB! and FTP access to the raw TB! files is painful over a
modem connection when the message bases are quite large files.

My question is therefore, is there anyway to setup TB! (using this
server mode) that would allow me to use TB! as a client away from the
office and access my message bases held on my office machine?

Cheers,

Mark


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