Re: Virtual Memory overuse
Hello Urban, On Sun, 18 Jun 2006 19:20:59 +0200 GMT (19/06/2006, 00:20 +0700 GMT), Urban wrote: U The thing I like about shorterlinks is that they show where they are U taking you before redirecting. Fair enough, but I get confused about all these services that offer shorter or tiny links. With TB, long links don't get line-wrapped, so it is more comfortable for me to click on it after I take a look. Other people work differently, so I wouldn't object if you also post the shorter link. My suggestion is to post both. And before we get OT... oh, too late. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Proofread carefully to see if you any words out. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.80.06 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Virtual Memory overuse
Wednesday, June 14, 2006, Thomas Fernandez wrote: I don't think anyone will open a shorterlink. Well, at least I won't. Why don't you post both, the real link and - if you wish - the shorter link? Ok. Here's the non-shortened one http://groups.google.com/group/opera.general/browse_frm/thread/f9517660ae905f57/7c193474340b2c29?tvc=1q=%22Why+does+Opera+use+so+much+RAM%22#7c193474340b2c29 The thing I like about shorterlinks is that they show where they are taking you before redirecting. Not for very long, but long enough to copy the URL and stop the redirect by hitting a bookmark or going to your start page or whatever. Then, it's a piece of cake to just paste the URL into notepad and check it so it doesn't look strange. -- Urban A closed mind is a good thing to lose. Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Virtual Memory overuse
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hi On Sunday 18 June 2006 at 6:20:59 PM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Urban wrote: The thing I like about shorterlinks is that they show where they are taking you before redirecting. Not for very long, but long enough to copy the URL and stop the redirect by hitting a bookmark or going to your start page or whatever. Then, it's a piece of cake to just paste the URL into notepad and check it so it doesn't look strange. For that reason they are better than tinyurl. Of course, not so short (-; - -- Best regards, MFPA Confusion is always the most honest response Using The Bat! v3.80.06 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.2.2 Comment: iQCVAwUBRJX02qipC46tDG5pAQEltgP/Q96yQjySYGOLrSQNs/JPWe95qUodKwdM 5fHucpKAT5YYMdzRX8HyYNWkLtEod6UTDIa1ELNv3lgPgbwRR7knViXRblwcvsHW cB7hSREXjmykv+axxxzijCDG1Ei6APKxUhUar0hdZh1huWgyrFRRhGSXNs8TzUsf JUPzW3SNUck= =zCW2 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Virtual Memory overuse
Hello Urban, On Fri, 9 Jun 2006 23:57:20 +0200 GMT (10/06/2006, 04:57 +0700 GMT), Urban wrote: U http://makeashorterlink.com/?I38622D3D I don't think anyone will open a shorterlink. Well, at least I won't. Why don't you post both, the real link and - if you wish - the shorter link? -- Cheers, Thomas. At the evening service tonight, the sermon topic will be What is Hell? Come early and listen to the choir practice. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.80.06 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Virtual Memory overuse
Monday, June 5, 2006, Ken wrote: I've noticed this when running TB in conjunction with Opera 9 Beta. If I shut down Opera TB behaves itself. I use straight POP3, no IMAP. I don't know if this is related, but there recently was a thread on Opera an RAM consumption on the opera.general newsgroups http://makeashorterlink.com/?I38622D3D -- Urban begin LOVE-LETTER-FOR-YOU.TXT.vbs|I'm a signature virus. Copy me!|end Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Virtual Memory overuse
On Tuesday, June 6, 2006, 2:13:41, MFPA wrote: Based on ...? There was an excellent article from Mark Russinovitch about this on http://www.windowsitpro.com/Article/ArticleID/41095/41095.html, but unfortunately they now require you to subscribe to read it in full (previously, the complete version was available on-line without subscription). -- Jernej Simončič http://deepthought.ena.si/ Last year's was always better. -- Law of Regressive Achievement Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Virtual Memory overuse
Hallo Curtis, On Sun, 04 Jun 2006 22:19:41 -0500GMT (5-6-2006, 5:19 +0200, where I live), you wrote: C I was just running v3.80.06 and left it running for about a half day. I C returned to see a windows systray popup about being out of virtual C memory. I looked for the culprit and it was TB! which was currently C using 512MB of VM! On a German list somebody wrote about TB using an increasing amount of RAM while using IMAP accounts without an internet connection. I don't know whether this is relevant, but I like to hear myself talking. ;-) -- Groetjes, Roelof Don't be so open-minded that your brain falls out. The Bat! 3.80.06 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgp7bslbxOXKx.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Virtual Memory overuse
Hello Roelof, Monday, June 5, 2006, 10:39:57 AM, you (and Curtis) wrote: C I was just running v3.80.06 and left it running for about a half day. I C returned to see a windows systray popup about being out of virtual C memory. I looked for the culprit and it was TB! which was currently C using 512MB of VM! So, running something like FreeRAM XP Pro might be useful after all? :-) RO On a German list somebody wrote about TB using an increasing amount of RO RAM while using IMAP accounts without an internet connection. I don't RO know whether this is relevant, but I like to hear myself talking. ;-) You spell out loud while you type? :-) -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 3.80.06 Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Virtual Memory overuse
On Mon, 5 Jun 2006 10:39:57 +0200, Roelof Otten [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On a German list somebody wrote about TB using an increasing amount of RAM while using IMAP accounts without an internet connection. I don't know whether this is relevant, but I like to hear myself talking. ;-) I'm using IMAP accounts and may be suffering from this new IMAP malady, yes. Interesting that this isn't very much mentioned. -- -= Curtis =- Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Virtual Memory overuse
On Monday, June 5, 2006, 11:36:52, Mark Partous wrote: So, running something like FreeRAM XP Pro might be useful after all? :-) Never - these programs are a scam, plain and simple. The only thing they're capable of doing is pushing programs out of RAM to the swap file, which wouldn't help at all in this case, as Windows was already swapping out TB's memory leak (but ran out of allocated space in the swap file, and therefore informed the user that it's increasing it). On a German list somebody wrote about TB using an increasing amount of RAM while using IMAP accounts without an internet connection. I don't know whether this is relevant, but I like to hear myself talking. ;-) I noticed something else when using TB and IMAP: if the server goes down, TB will after some time attempt to contact it every second, dinging when it's unable to. Leave it like this for a couple of hours, and Windows' TCP/IP stack suddenly fails to establish any new connections. Luckily, restarting TB solves this, but it tells you something about how good the TCP/IP stack in Windows is (and I'm running Windows 2003 Server, which was supposed to handle much more than this). -- Jernej Simončič http://deepthought.ena.si/ The most heavily traveled streets spend the most time under construction. -- Law of Highway Construction Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Virtual Memory overuse
Hello Jernej, Monday, June 5, 2006, 2:48:10 PM, you wrote: JS On Monday, June 5, 2006, 11:36:52, Mark Partous wrote: So, running something like FreeRAM XP Pro might be useful after all? :-) JS Never - these programs are a scam, plain and simple. Scam: fraudulent act, deception, swindle Technically speaking FreeRAM XP Pro (none other but freeware versions available) cannot be a SCAM (since it isn't introducing any spy- or other malware either). OTOH, Windows (no free version has ever been reported) could be... :-) Besides, doctors that claim that placebos never work should be returned to university! :-) -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 3.80.06 Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Virtual Memory overuse
Hello Curtis, On Sunday, June 4, 2006, 10:19:41 PM, you wrote: I was just running v3.80.06 and left it running for about a half day. I returned to see a windows systray popup about being out of virtual memory. I looked for the culprit and it was TB! which was currently using 512MB of VM! Anyone else seeing that sort of memory leak/consumption? I've noticed this when running TB in conjunction with Opera 9 Beta. If I shut down Opera TB behaves itself. I use straight POP3, no IMAP. -- Best regards, Kenmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Virtual Memory overuse
Hello Ken everyone else, on 05-Jun-2006 at 17:06 you (Ken) wrote: I've noticed this when running TB in conjunction with Opera 9 Beta. If I shut down Opera TB behaves itself. I use straight POP3, no IMAP. I'm using Opera9 beta as well and I don't see that behaviour. TB Opera running for about 10 hours now. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) Nothing splendid has ever been acheived except by those who dared believe that something inside them was superior to circumstance. -- Bruce Barton Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Virtual Memory overuse
Mark Partous @ 2006-6-05 5:36:52 AM Virtual Memory overuse mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] So, running something like FreeRAM XP Pro might be useful after all? No. I'd leave memory management to the doctors (Ph.D) at Microsoft. They've got a bit more experience than the FreeRAM XP people. -- Chris Using The Bat! v3.80.06 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2. Accessing a POP3 mailbox. HORROR FILM WISDOM: When you have the benefit of numbers, never go alone. pgpJtbKUPwbI5.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Virtual Memory overuse
I was just running v3.80.06 and left it running for about a half day. I returned to see a windows systray popup about being out of virtual memory. I looked for the culprit and it was TB! which was currently using 512MB of VM! Anyone else seeing that sort of memory leak/consumption? I brought this issue up on the list several months ago, I think maybe last summer or fall, so this issue has been around for a long time. What I see is that when I initially start up TB! it immediately swallows up about 1.5GB of the pagefile and about 600MB of RAM. That's over 2GB of memory for a single program all at once... not a leak issue (I think). I am only using POP, no IMAP. On rare ocassions I'll start up TB! and it'll seem to consume very little RAM or virtual memory, maybe 100MB across the two. That's usually a treat as my system is free to be response when switching applications and when starting or closing applications. Otherwise, when TB! is swallowing memory, it tends to affect performance system-wide. Over time, RAM usage ticks down to something acceptable, but the pagefile only returns to normal when TB! is shut down. -- Sam Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Virtual Memory overuse
On Mon, 5 Jun 2006 10:06:24 -0500, Ken said: Anyone else seeing that sort of memory leak/consumption? I've noticed this when running TB in conjunction with Opera 9 Beta. If I shut down Opera TB behaves itself. I use straight POP3, no IMAP. I'm not running Opera, but have to assume that it is likely some other application and TB! working together to create the problem. -- -= Curtis =- Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Virtual Memory overuse
Hello Chris, Monday, June 5, 2006, 10:02:48 PM, you wrote: C No. I'd leave memory management to the doctors (Ph.D) at Microsoft. C They've got a bit more experience than the FreeRAM XP people. Absolutely. They earned their degree by learning to pretend they know. :-) -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 3.80.06 Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Virtual Memory overuse
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Hi On Monday 5 June 2006 at 9:02:48 PM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Chris wrote: I'd leave memory management to the doctors (Ph.D) at Microsoft. They've got a bit more experience than the FreeRAM XP people. Based on ...? - -- Best regards, MFPA During an eruption - move away from the volcano - not towards it Using The Bat! v3.80.06 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.2.2 Comment: iQCVAwUBRITI3qipC46tDG5pAQPpdwQAmaGAkKvFYrmb4ZOHQe99hn7qOnaX5Btr apaMHx1FgC78r4hyoQ2raYsfNzSpH9eG2KwcvvjZNmS8aaSpSTvwS7pRRk4uwc0q YFjeFTcaphkHw2k/mtYA5IbHnYgC3n7rYamdBhbbwjncTb4VL8OmpqwEKpxemwFM KiiWfxl6qRk= =I5b8 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Virtual Memory overuse
Hi, I was just running v3.80.06 and left it running for about a half day. I returned to see a windows systray popup about being out of virtual memory. I looked for the culprit and it was TB! which was currently using 512MB of VM! Anyone else seeing that sort of memory leak/consumption? -- -= Curtis =- Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
