X-Ray: why?

2004-05-28 Thread Michael L. Wilson

Someone told me I should be using X-Ray if I use the Bat.  I have
downloaded it and configured it a little, and now I need to ask why?
What does it really do for me?  Anyone have any good Kludge filters to
use with it?  Why shuffle SMTP and POP servers?  Any ideas?

--
Michael L. Wilson
Philospher
Teacher
Critic

Big Brother is watching - George Orwell (1984)

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Re: X-Ray: why?

2004-05-28 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)
On Friday, May 28, 2004, 8:14:25 AM, Michael L. Wilson wrote:

 Someone told me I should be using X-Ray if I use the Bat.  I have
 downloaded it and configured it a little, and now I need to ask why?
 What does it really do for me?  Anyone have any good Kludge filters to
 use with it?  Why shuffle SMTP and POP servers?  Any ideas?

There are two reasons you might wish to use X-Ray.  One is that is
allows you to modify the headers in your email messages - it is a
quite sophisticated program in this respect.

The other reason is if you are using TB! on a laptop, for example, and
may need to send messages through a variety of SMTP servers. In this
case you tell TB that the SMTP server is Localhost (X-Ray) and X-Ray
can either manually or automatically choose the SMTP server. For
example, I used X-Ray to choose between a Work (Exchange), Home (DSL)
and Mobile (Dial-up) SMTP server, which it did automatically depending
on the IP address the laptop had been allocated.

I don't do this now, as my ISP has an option of Authenticated SMTP, so
I can send mail through my ISP's SMTP servers whichever network I am
connected to.

Hope this helps!

[ps - your sig delimited is broken.  It should be [dash][dash][space]

Julian

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Re: X-Ray: why?

2004-05-28 Thread Mica Mijatovic
***^\ 
 ~~( __ _o   Was Fri, 28 May 2004, at 00:14:25 -0700, 
@  @  when Michael L. Wilson wrote:

 Someone told me I should be using X-Ray if I use the Bat.  I have
 downloaded it and configured it a little, and now I need to ask why?
 What does it really do for me?

It depends on what you want/need.

Just one of the examples I use it for: since The Bat cannot write the
time when a message is *sent*, I use X-Ray for writing this time in (the
sent line in my headers).

Generally, it serves for editing (in/out) header part of a message, as
Julian already explained.

-- 
Mica



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Re: X-Ray: why?

2004-05-28 Thread Jan Rifkinson
Hi Michael.

At 3:14 AM on Friday, May 28, 2004 it seems you posted the following
to [EMAIL PROTECTED] in regards to X-Ray:  why?: 

  A less techie type reason was, that until recently, TB! users
  could not control their x-mailer header. As a consequence there
  were some over ambitious or ignorant services that filtered out
  The Bat! email because somewhere/sometime ago TB! was mentioned as
  a client that could be easily automated for spamming purposes. Of
  course, TB! licensing expresses prohibits it's use for spamming
  but never mind; there are a lot of really dumb administrators out
  there. X-ray allowed TB! users to change the x-mailer header as
  well as other functions as others have explained.

  TB! users can now turn off the x-mailer header which avoids the
  problem.

-- 
Jan Rifkinson
Ridgefield, CT USA
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Re: X-Ray: why?

2004-05-28 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Mica,

On Fri, 28 May 2004 12:39:23 +0200GMT (28-5-04, 12:39 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

MM Just one of the examples I use it for: since The Bat cannot write the
MM time when a message is *sent*, I use X-Ray for writing this time in (the
MM sent line in my headers).

But your ISP's smtp server will do that for you, so why the fuss?
;-)

-- 
Groetjes, Roelof

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or rabbits.



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Re: X-Ray: why?

2004-05-28 Thread Mica Mijatovic
***^\ 
 ~~( __ _o   Was Fri, 28 May 2004, at 16:37:52 +0200, 
@  @  when Roelof Otten wrote:

 Hallo Mica,

 On Fri, 28 May 2004 12:39:23 +0200GMT (28-5-04, 12:39 +0200, where I
 live), you wrote:

MM Just one of the examples I use it for: since The Bat cannot write the
MM time when a message is *sent*, I use X-Ray for writing this time in (the
MM sent line in my headers).

 But your ISP's smtp server will do that for you, so why the fuss?
 ;-)

What fuse? 8-)

I use it from two reasons:

1) The time I sent it from my contraption is not same time the
contraption of my ISP has (re)sent it from. But it is not so
significant.

2) It is written in a much more user friendly form, so that even those
not that skilled in reading headers can find it easily.

A sub-reason 2a) is that I can add some specific data about specific
profile of my communication contraption system, related to the time a
message is living it, which means something to some of my
correspondents, and to me myself.

-- 
Mica



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