Re: default to thread view
Monday, February 17, 2003 at 12:48 PM (Pacific Time) Hello Allie, This is a reply to your message dated Monday, February 17, 2003 at 4:08:15 AM, when you wrote: AM PS// Be wary of adding your e-mail address in your signature to AM the list. Spammers tend to visit the archives and harvest e-mail AM addresses from it. Good idea Allie, I just removed mine from my sig. -- Wayne Black Using TheBat! 1.61 With Windows 98se 4.10 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: default to thread view
Hello Wayne, Monday, February 17, 2003, 9:49:17 PM, you wrote: WB Monday, February 17, 2003 at 12:48 PM (Pacific Time) WB Hello Allie, This is a reply to your message dated WB Monday, February 17, 2003 at 4:08:15 AM, when you wrote: AM PS// Be wary of adding your e-mail address in your signature to AM the list. Spammers tend to visit the archives and harvest e-mail AM addresses from it. WB Good idea Allie, I just removed mine from my sig. This will only keep amateurs from grabbing your E-mail addresses. By simply subscribing to the list, archiving the mail and extracting the addresses, one can harvest everyone's E-mail address with little effort. (1) Nevertheless, every little bit helps to beat spammers... (1): To prove my point I will now add the list of E-mail addresses of the TBUDL-list. However, to make things less obvious for spammers I will write them in white letters on a white background (2) (2): You can try to find them beneath the signature, but you might as well not loose your time... :-) Well, seriously folks, it IS really easy... -- Best Whishes, Mark using The Bat! 1.62i Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: default to thread view
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Mark, @18-Feb-2003, 17:34 +0100 (16:34 UK time) Mark Partous [MP] in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: MP This will only keep amateurs from grabbing your E-mail MP addresses. By simply subscribing to the list, archiving the mail MP and extracting the addresses, one can harvest everyone's E-mail MP address with little effort. (1) Actually, I disagree - completely. It is only amateurs who do what you suggest - it is too labour intensive for the professionals. The only no effort method involves bots that trawl web pages and links looking for email addresses. Subscribing to mailing lists just to harvest is a non-starter for most serious address harvesters. MP Nevertheless, every little bit helps to beat spammers... ... snip MP I will write them in white letters on a white background Any more naive subscribers please ignore this taunt. It can't be done in plain text :-). - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1rc1-nr1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE+UmLJOeQkq5KdzaARAq/GAKDpvNMcS4Y7CPqYRU9pblyBe4UUUACeLuvV Xe9pnuGyBPgEThn+O0gy4CU= =ceNQ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: default to thread view
Hallo Mark, On Tue, 18 Feb 2003 17:34:03 +0100GMT (18-2-03, 17:34 +0100, where I live), you wrote: MP (1): To prove my point I will now add the list of E-mail addresses MP of the TBUDL-list. However, to make things less obvious for MP spammers I will write them in white letters on a white background You'd need the current beta of TB to do that and not the release you're using now. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: default to thread view
Hello Marck, Tuesday, February 18, 2003, 5:43:51 PM, you wrote: MDP Actually, I disagree - completely. It is only amateurs who do what MDP you suggest - it is too labour intensive for the professionals. About 10 seconds to extract all E-mail addresses from this list, that's what it took. Perhaps we have a different view on labour intesiveness :-) -- Best Whishes, Mark using The Bat! 1.62i Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: default to thread view
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Mark, @18-Feb-2003, 20:21 +0100 (19:21 UK time) Mark Partous [MP] in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: MDP Actually, I disagree - completely. It is only amateurs who do MDP what you suggest - it is too labour intensive for the MDP professionals. MP About 10 seconds to extract all E-mail addresses from this list, MP that's what it took. Perhaps we have a different view on labour MP intesiveness :-) No, we have a different view on what constitutes a professional spammers address harvesting operation. I already *have* harvested the addresses as they come in. *I'm* not about to use them for spamming. If it is your intent to do so, I would be very surprised. The labour intensive part is not reaping the addresses in stored messages. It is applying for list membership, waiting for the confirm message back from the server, confirming, waiting for a few weeks while enough addresses come in worth having then reaping the benefits of harvesting. It isn't going to happen! It is not very responsible of you to suggest it might. Either you're being humorous or you're not understanding what you are suggesting yourself. Either way, I am attempting to make it clear to the membership that they are not in danger of having their addresses harvested by any spammer by posting to the list - unless they show their email address in the body of their posting. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1rc1-nr1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE+UqqEOeQkq5KdzaARAldNAJ0aIty2idL76aYJOA/RI+GCrZRDoACfRvTB HlGVqhqCUskrN6M9F1atMD4= =aHL6 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: default to thread view
Hello Marck, Tuesday, February 18, 2003, 10:49:54 PM, you wrote: MP intesiveness :-) Damned, who stole my n? :-) MDP If it is your intent to do so, I would be very surprised. No reason to be surprised... I do not intend to use it for spamming. I do not use it at all. I do not send spam, period. I was merely testing a feature of some software I use. Furthermore, even though address harvesters may be professionals, those who actually use these addresses are not being professional. I do think advertising through E-mail is legitimate, but only if it is being sent to people who have expressed an explicit whish to receive such a message (no partner stuff etc.) f.i. people who subscribe to a newsletter. Sending advertisements to people who did not request it is simply unprofessional. -- Best Whishes, Mark using The Bat! 1.62i Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
default to thread view
Hello TBUDL listers, Is there a way to make all folders default to view threads by, reference. If there is a quick way to do this that'd be fantastic as the idea of going through every folder fills me with dread. -- bfn ~kristina [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Composed on 17/02/2003 at 12:03 using The Bat Ver 1.62i Attachments = none Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: default to thread view
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In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED],
Kristina [K] wrote:'
K Is there a way to make all folders default to view threads by,
K reference.
You need to go into each folder's properties and enable 'Use default
column settings'. When finished, adjust any of these folders column
settings to what you like and the rest will be adjusted in an
identical fashion.
PS// Be wary of adding your e-mail address in your signature to the
list. Spammers tend to visit the archives and harvest e-mail addresses
from it.
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Re: default to thread view
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi kristina, @17-Feb-2003, 12:04 kristina [K] in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: K Is there a way to make all folders default to view threads by, K reference. Yes, but not immediately. K If there is a quick way to do this that'd be fantastic as the K idea of going through every folder fills me with dread. Okay - but you have a bullet to bite. You do have to go through every folder, but only to set the Use account default column settings switch for each. Once this is set, any change you make to one folder with that option set will apply to all the others too. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.63 Beta/6 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1rc1-nr1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE+UNCeOeQkq5KdzaARAkuoAJ4gHH2g+ZlGefOs38l9Q5YSPMPRcwCgzrw0 3Muxob25jwpuaoHymAT/fUQ= =d0gz -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
