Re[2]: eml attachment when forwarding mail from The Bat!
Hello Bob, Monday, January 30, 2006, 4:21:05 AM, you wrote: BM G'day Marck, BM Sunday, January 29, 2006, 7:09:39 PM, you wrote in response to my BM question: BM Anyone got any idea why The Bat! is sending the extra eml file, and BM what it is intended to accomplish other than to boost the size of the BM message? I promised my B-I-L that I would ask the question for him. Because you told it to! where is this setting? cos it happens to me and I'm sure I never told it too! -- Kind regards, Jenny Zonneveld Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: eml attachment when forwarding mail from The Bat!
Dear Jenny, @30-Jan-2006, 10:39 +0100 (30-Jan 09:39 here) Jenny Zonneveld [JZ] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Bob: BM Anyone got any idea why The Bat! is sending the extra eml file, and BM what it is intended to accomplish other than to boost the size of the BM message? I promised my B-I-L that I would ask the question for him. Because you told it to! JZ where is this setting? cos it happens to me and I'm sure I never told it too! It seems that IMAP accounts default to use the Forward messages as attachments setting in Account properties .. Templates .. Forward. That's where you can find the setting. -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v3.70.06 Qigong (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 ' pgpr0rDbNerdi.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: eml attachment when forwarding mail from The Bat!
Dear Bob, @29-Jan-2006, 15:41 +1000 (29-Jan 05:41 here) Bob Morris [BM] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to TBUDL: ... snip BM Anyone got any idea why The Bat! is sending the extra eml file, and BM what it is intended to accomplish other than to boost the size of the BM message? I promised my B-I-L that I would ask the question for him. Because you told it to! This is a MIME forward aka Alternative forwarding. In this mode, TB deliberately attaches a complete copy of the original email. This is also the way AOL users forward messages. TB's difference is that it attaches the copied email to a normal forward of the message. This is less explainable. I can understand an overview of the text in the covering message for the forward, but a complete content copy plus images plus attachments? Very odd. Of course, if you're not using MIME forwarding yourself, then you got the original message *from* an AOL user and merely formatted what you'd received. ;-) -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v3.70.06 Qigong (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 ' pgpW1reuuC7XC.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: eml attachment when forwarding mail from The Bat!
G'day Marck, Sunday, January 29, 2006, 7:09:39 PM, you wrote: snipped This is a MIME forward aka Alternative forwarding. In this mode, TB deliberately attaches a complete copy of the original email. This is also the way AOL users forward messages. TB's difference is that it attaches the copied email to a normal forward of the message. This is less explainable. I can understand an overview of the text in the covering message for the forward, but a complete content copy plus images plus attachments? Very odd. Of course, if you're not using MIME forwarding yourself, then you got the original message *from* an AOL user and merely formatted what you'd received. ;-) Thanks Marck, I've passed your reply on to my Brother-in-law. It had me stumped so your explanation was much appreciated. -- Regards, Bob Using The Bat! v3.65.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: eml attachment when forwarding mail from The Bat!
Hello Marck, This is a MIME forward aka Alternative forwarding. In this mode, TB deliberately attaches a complete copy of the original email. This is also the way AOL users forward messages. TB's difference is that it attaches the copied email to a normal forward of the message. This is less explainable. I can understand an overview of the text in the covering message for the forward, but a complete content copy plus images plus attachments? Very odd. That depends on your Forward template. If you have a nearly blank one (i.e. just with %Cursor macro) you will only send the attachment plus whatever you type. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.70.06 Qigong (Beta) Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: eml attachment when forwarding mail from The Bat!
G'day Marck, Sunday, January 29, 2006, 7:09:39 PM, you wrote in response to my question: BM Anyone got any idea why The Bat! is sending the extra eml file, and BM what it is intended to accomplish other than to boost the size of the BM message? I promised my B-I-L that I would ask the question for him. Because you told it to! snipped I got an indignant (tongue-in-cheek) response from my brother-in-law when I sent him a copy of your reply. *No I didn't!* As a test he had set up a new account on The Bat! and it defaulted to the setting forward messages as attachments (MIME standard) with no user intervention. He then did a clean install on another computer - set up a new account and once again it defaulted to that setting. (In both cases the accounts were IMAP.) He obviously has too much time on his hands being able to do all this experimenting ;-) . On looking at my own installation I find that all six POP accounts have the setting unticked, while my one IMAP account has it ticked. It would appear that The Bat! applies different settings depending on whether the account is POP or IMAP. Not a problem as we now know why it was forwarding the eml attachment and how to prevent it (if desired), but thought I would pass this on to add to the store of knowledge -- Regards, Bob Using The Bat! v3.65.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: eml attachment when forwarding mail from The Bat!
On Sunday, January 29, 2006, 9:21:05 PM, Bob Morris wrote: On looking at my own installation I find that all six POP accounts have the setting unticked, while my one IMAP account has it ticked. It would appear that The Bat! applies different settings depending on whether the account is POP or IMAP. Confirmed. I'm sure I never ticked forwarding that way for my IMAP account, and it hasn't been set that way for my POP accounts. -- Dwight A. Corrin 928 S Broadway Wichita KS 67211 316.303.1411 fax 316.265.7568 dcorrin at fastmail.fm Using IMAP with The Bat! 3.70.06 Qigong (Beta) on Windows XP version 5,1 (Service Pack 2) Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: eml attachment when forwarding mail from The Bat!
Dear Bob, @30-Jan-2006, 13:21 +1000 (30-Jan 03:21 here) Bob Morris [BM] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck: ... snip BM Anyone got any idea why The Bat! is sending the extra eml file ... snip Because you told it to! BM snipped BM I got an indignant (tongue-in-cheek) response from my brother-in-law BM when I sent him a copy of your reply. BM *No I didn't!* ... snip BM On looking at my own installation I find that all six POP accounts BM have the setting unticked, while my one IMAP account has it ticked. It BM would appear that The Bat! applies different settings depending on BM whether the account is POP or IMAP. That would explain it. I don't have any IMAP accounts at all. -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v3.70.06 Qigong (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 ' pgpSFlf8pQZkj.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
eml attachment when forwarding mail from The Bat!
G'day TBUDL Members, My brother-in-law (who likes to play around with different e-mail programs) has just sent me the following observation about the way in which The Bat! forwards messages. I just noticed something odd about the way the The Bat forwarded that email re Husbands of the Year. (I copied to myself at FastMail..which, ebing IMAP...meant I could view the forwarded email in various mailers). Anyway, the original email was ~ 140 k. When forwarded to you - using default settings in The Bat - it doubled in size. That's because there was an *.eml part (~ 140 kb), plus html plus jpegs. ie The Bat was doubling up in effect. I guess ThunderBird (which currently is not on my computer) displayed this in a certain way. Opera did too: it displayed the email properly, then also displayed the three pics below (as did Outlook Express). I just did the forwarding bit from Outlook Express and from Opera. Both forwarded the message as a 140 kb email, with html and 3 x jpeg parts...and no *.eml attachment. ie they didn't double up like The Bat. Maybe The Bat has a very good reason for doing this: eg you have the option of saving the *.eml attachment?? I don't know. This is not meant to be a criticism of The Bat: just an observation. Steve In The Bat! I can see the message normally, plus am able to open the eml file which repeats the message complete with pictures. In Mozilla Thunderbird I can open the message normally (although the formatting is a bit scatty with pictures appended rather than being in-line) and also see the pictures and the eml file as attachments. If I try to open the eml file with Thunderbird the text content (formatted in HTML) appears but all the pictures are just blank boxes with red crosses just like when a remotely stored image is included in a message. There appears to be picture attachments included but these can neither be opened, viewed or saved. I also tried PocoMail which could open the message normally as well as being able to open the eml attachment (same as The Bat!). I know that Outlook Express can view the eml file okay (I tested by drag and drop), but I have no intention of setting it up to retrieve mail from the server to see if it can read the original message format. Anyone got any idea why The Bat! is sending the extra eml file, and what it is intended to accomplish other than to boost the size of the message? I promised my B-I-L that I would ask the question for him. -- Bob Mo®®is Sunday, 29 January 2006 Using The Bat! v3.65.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
