Re: maintenance and max size of folders
Tom @ 3/10/2006 4:34:56 PM maintenance and max size of folders mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Could I do the same, ie moving a folder from documents settings / application data/ The Bat/ Folder X to another spot on my harddrive without affecting the working of TB? Could I if necessary put it back at a later stage? You can remove the .TBI .TBB files from your mail directory and The Bat! will not complain. However, I would only do this when The Bat! was not running. The next time a message is place in that folder, it will simply re-create those files. Is any of this necessary or are you guys all happy with quite a number of big folders within TB. It doesn't cause me any problems. I currently have about 50,000 messages (a relatively small number, compared to many) in this account. Most of them are kept in special archive folders which I keep collapsed in the folder pane (They are sub-folders of the main folder). I only really access them via the search tool. This keeps the main folders down to a reasonable number (around 1,500). -- Chris Quoting when replying to this message is good for you and me. Using The Bat! v3.71.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2. Accessing a POP3 mailbox. Today's Oxymoron: Clearly misunderstood pgpRl2BLJZzPK.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: maintenance and max size of folders
Hello Code, On Wed, 08 Mar 2006 07:18:32 -0800 GMT (08/03/2006, 22:18 +0700 GMT), Code 2 wrote: RO IIRC There is this file limit of 2 GB for the messages.tbb C2 What happens if you unwittingly reach and then exceed that limit? C2 What symptoms would you see? Recently in the office a pop-message from TB: The size of Inbox is approaching 2GB (or something ike that). And then some suggestions what to do, I forgot. Anyway, TB does give out a warning before all is lost. -- Cheers, Thomas. Follow your dream! Unless it's the one where you're at work in your underwear during a fire drill. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.71.03 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: maintenance and max size of folders
Wednesday, March 8, 2006, 6:13:00 PM, you wrote: Also, is there any easy way to archive emails older than xyz and if so, how would I do that. Yes. In the folder's Properties, check the box and enter a value for Keep messages in base for. Then, on the Deletion tab, check the Use folder-specific deletion settings. Under Alternative Deletion, select Move to the specified folder and configure as you see fit. Also, select Use alternative deletion for for purging this folder. On the main tab, you may also want to check Remove old messages (on exit). This is a great suggestion to automate what I was doing with normal filters and manual transfers before but it's not exactly what I meant. In OE I actually removed the relevant .dbx folders and stored them separately on my hard drive. The idea was to keep the email program smaller and hopefully less prone to corruption. I generally do not have to refer to emails older than 6 months (but may have to store them for legal reasons). Could I do the same, ie moving a folder from documents settings / application data/ The Bat/ Folder X to another spot on my harddrive without affecting the working of TB? Could I if necessary put it back at a later stage? Is any of this necessary or are you guys all happy with quite a number of big folders within TB. Thanks Roelof re the max size 2GB, now I know when to start making arrangements for splitting or moving folders . -- Tom using TB 3.65.03 on XP Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: maintenance and max size of folders
- Original Message From: Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TBUDL@thebat.dutaint.com Sent: Wednesday, March 8, 2006 1:21:41 AM Subject: maintenance and max size of folders I believe that it is good practice not to keep emails building up in the Inbox. From what I read this may cause problems with respect to stability or in case of crashes data loss - please correct me if I am wrong. - I have no information or facts on this, so I could be completely wrong, but it doesn't seem to make sense to me that this would happen. Why would the inbox be any different from any other folder? Why would it be bad to leave 1000 messages in the inbox vs 100,000 in any other folder? What would make the inbox so prone to corruption compared to another folder? Perhaps my confusion simply comes from a lack of understanding regarding the storage system TB! uses... So could someone clarify? Thanks! -Sam Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: maintenance and max size of folders
TL Are there any limitations as to how many emails or what files size TL (incl. attachments) can or should be stored in these secondary folders TL without again potentially creating hazards? RO IIRC There is this file limit of 2 GB for the messages.tbb What happens if you unwittingly reach and then exceed that limit? What symptoms would you see? -- Code 2 :canadaflag: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Bat! version 2.12.00 on Windows XP Service Pack 2 At A Laundry Shop: How about we refund your money, send you a new one at no charge, close the store and have the manager shot. Would that be satisfactory? Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: maintenance and max size of folders
Hallo Sam, On Wed, 8 Mar 2006 06:58:37 -0800 (PST)GMT (8-3-2006, 15:58 +0100, where I live), you wrote: SB Why would the inbox be any different from any other folder? Why SB would it be bad to leave 1000 messages in the inbox vs 100,000 in SB any other folder? The inbox is prone to corruption as it is a high traffic folder, every message that you download (with a pop3 account) first gets into your inbox before the sorting office has its way with it. Large files with lots of write actions are more vulnerable than large files with (relative) few write actions. Especially when those actions can be complicated by a virus scanner or things like that. However, I wouldn't advice to store 10 messages in a single folder, TB tends to slow down with more than 2 messages in a folder (that's without attachments). -- Groetjes, Roelof Dogmatism: Puppyism come to its full growth. The Bat! 3.71.03 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpdwXFnh87wr.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Mod: Cut mark (was: maintenance and max size of folders)
Hallo Sam, On Wed, 8 Mar 2006 06:58:37 -0800 (PST)GMT (8-3-2006, 15:58 +0200, where I live), you wrote: SB Thanks! SB SB -Sam SB SB SB Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: moderator Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out Sam. ' Please include a signature delimiter in your messages. This consists of a dashdashspacereturn, i.e., a '-- ' by itself on a line. This allows your readers, when replying, to quote your text without the signature and list footers since everything below and including the sig delimiter is excluded when quoting. You can easily automate this process by including the sig delimiter in your templates. Even if you barely have a signature to speak of, that doesn't make any difference to whether or not you need a cut mark. You are being courteous to other readers since at least three lines of text is added to your signature by the list server. To find out why these MOD messages are posted to the list instead of private mail, please read the welcome message you received when you subscribed. Thank you. /moderator -- Groetjes, Roelof Ooops, caught the moderator's attention again. pgpom7LuJe6Ti.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: maintenance and max size of folders
Hallo Code, On Wed, 08 Mar 2006 07:18:32 -0800GMT (8-3-2006, 16:18 +0100, where I live), you wrote: RO IIRC There is this file limit of 2 GB for the messages.tbb C2 What happens if you unwittingly reach and then exceed that limit? C2 What symptoms would you see? TB would be unable to read the files. And depending on your partitioning system so might your OS (FAT32 doesn't support files over 2 GB, NTFS should be able to cope with them.) -- Groetjes, Roelof How wise are they that are but fools in love! Cooke The Bat! 3.71.03 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpnvxHsgSuzO.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: maintenance and max size of folders
Tom @ 3/08/2006 12:21:41 AM maintenance and max size of folders mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Also, is there any easy way to archive emails older than xyz and if so, how would I do that. Yes. In the folder's Properties, check the box and enter a value for Keep messages in base for. Then, on the Deletion tab, check the Use folder-specific deletion settings. Under Alternative Deletion, select Move to the specified folder and configure as you see fit. Also, select Use alternative deletion for for purging this folder. On the main tab, you may also want to check Remove old messages (on exit). Now, whenever you purge the folder (or quit The Bat!, if you configured it that way), any messages older than the number of days you specified will be moved to the folder you specified. Magic! -- Chris Quoting when replying to this message is good for you and me. Using The Bat! v3.71.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2. Accessing a POP3 mailbox. Today's Oxymoron: Extinct Life pgpLFmCyMKVGc.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: maintenance and max size of folders
Hallo Tom, On Wed, 8 Mar 2006 17:21:41 +1100GMT (8-3-2006, 7:21 +0100, where I live), you wrote: TL Are there any limitations as to how many emails or what files size TL (incl. attachments) can or should be stored in these secondary folders TL without again potentially creating hazards? IIRC There is this file limit of 2 GB for the messages.tbb -- Groetjes, Roelof Water floats a ship...Water sinks a ship. Old Chinese Proverb The Bat! 3.71.03 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpg3VbqWmvyC.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
