Re: please help out a lamer

2000-11-19 Thread Ben Pugsley

Hi,

I'm in  lot of trouble...I ended up getting a new machine, and while I copied
the TheBat directory over to the new system, of course I can't get it to run
or anything.
   

What do I need to do, and how do it.  I still have the old system, and TheBat
is still running on it.

Thanks...






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Re: please help out a lamer

2000-11-19 Thread Thomas Fernandez

Hallo Ben,

On Sun, 19 Nov 2000 11:36:03 -0700 GMT (20/11/2000, 02:36 +0800 GMT),
Ben Pugsley wrote:

BP I'm in  lot of trouble...I ended up getting a new machine, and while I copied
BP the TheBat directory over to the new system, of course I can't get it to run
BP or anything.
   
did you back up the registry from your old machine and restore it on
the new machine?

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Re: please help out a lamer

2000-11-19 Thread Kari Jakobi


Hello Ben,

you wrote on Sunday, November 19, 2000 at about 19:36 h
the following about "please help out a lamer":

BP Hi,

BP I'm in  lot of trouble...I ended up getting a new machine, and while I copied
BP the TheBat directory over to the new system, of course I can't get it to run
BP or anything.
   

BP What do I need to do, and how do it.  I still have the old system, and TheBat
BP is still running on it.

You need to extract the registry paths for TB! from your original
machine and copy them into the knew ones. IOW, extract
"HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\RIT" and "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\RIT"
with a batch file with the following commands:

@regedit /e Z:\UserRegSetting.reg "HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT"
@regedit /e Z:\MachineRegSetting.reg "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\RIT"

On your new machine just double click these two *.reg files and
Win-d'oh!s will automatically add the strings.

Just my 2 cents

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Re: please help out a lamer

2000-11-19 Thread Karin Spaink

On 19-11-2000 at 20:12, Kari Jakobi kindly wrote:
 Hello Ben,

 you wrote on Sunday, November 19, 2000 at about 19:36 h
 the following about "please help out a lamer":

BP I'm in  lot of trouble...I ended up getting a new machine, and while I copied
BP the TheBat directory over to the new system, of course I can't get it to run
BP or anything.
   
 You need to extract the registry paths for TB! from your original
 machine and copy them into the knew ones. IOW, extract
 "HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\RIT" and "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\RIT"
 with a batch file with the following commands:

The easy way is of course to simply *install* TB on your new
machine. It will automatically create the correct registry
entries.


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Re[2]: please help out a lamer

2000-11-19 Thread Ben Pugsley

Hi Thomas,

Sunday, November 19, 2000, 11:50:09 AM, you wrote:

TF Hallo Ben,

TF On Sun, 19 Nov 2000 11:36:03 -0700 GMT (20/11/2000, 02:36 +0800 GMT),
TF Ben Pugsley wrote:

BP I'm in  lot of trouble...I ended up getting a new machine, and while I copied
BP the TheBat directory over to the new system, of course I can't get it to run
BP or anything.
   
TF did you back up the registry from your old machine and restore it on
TF the new machine?


No, I really need to get to a clean system, so I felt I needed to re-install
all software.

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Re[2]: please help out a lamer

2000-11-19 Thread Ben Pugsley

Hi Kari,

Sunday, November 19, 2000, 12:12:33 PM, you wrote:


KJ Hello Ben,

KJ you wrote on Sunday, November 19, 2000 at about 19:36 h
KJ the following about "please help out a lamer":

BP Hi,

BP I'm in  lot of trouble...I ended up getting a new machine, and while I copied
BP the TheBat directory over to the new system, of course I can't get it to run
BP or anything.
   

BP What do I need to do, and how do it.  I still have the old system, and TheBat
BP is still running on it.

KJ You need to extract the registry paths for TB! from your original
KJ machine and copy them into the knew ones. IOW, extract
KJ "HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\RIT" and "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\RIT"
KJ with a batch file with the following commands:

KJ @regedit /e Z:\UserRegSetting.reg "HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT"
KJ @regedit /e Z:\MachineRegSetting.reg "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\RIT"

KJ On your new machine just double click these two *.reg files and
KJ Win-d'oh!s will automatically add the strings.

KJ Just my 2 cents

KJ HTH

I don't know how to do that. :-)) Are steps posted somewhere??

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Re: please help out a lamer

2000-11-19 Thread Thomas Fernandez

Hallo Karin,

On Sun, 19 Nov 2000 20:25:53 +0100 GMT (20/11/2000, 03:25 +0800 GMT),
Karin Spaink wrote:

KS The easy way is of course to simply *install* TB on your new
KS machine. It will automatically create the correct registry
KS entries.

You will still have to enter your registry code. I would think you'll
lose some of you rsettings, too.

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Re[2]: please help out a lamer

2000-11-19 Thread Ben Pugsley

Hi Karin,

Sunday, November 19, 2000, 12:25:53 PM, you wrote:

KS On 19-11-2000 at 20:12, Kari Jakobi kindly wrote:
 Hello Ben,

 you wrote on Sunday, November 19, 2000 at about 19:36 h
 the following about "please help out a lamer":

BP I'm in  lot of trouble...I ended up getting a new machine, and while I copied
BP the TheBat directory over to the new system, of course I can't get it to run
BP or anything.
   
 You need to extract the registry paths for TB! from your original
 machine and copy them into the knew ones. IOW, extract
 "HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\RIT" and "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\RIT"
 with a batch file with the following commands:

KS The easy way is of course to simply *install* TB on your new
KS machine. It will automatically create the correct registry
KS entries.


KS - K -


Right. but I have several accounts, and MANY MANY saved messages that I want
to have in the new system.

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Re: please help out a lamer

2000-11-19 Thread Mike Yetto

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On Sun, 19 Nov 2000, at 12:44:02 [GMT -0700], Ben Pugsley wrote:

KS The easy way is of course to simply *install* TB on your new
KS machine. It will automatically create the correct registry
KS entries.


BP Right. but I have several accounts, and MANY MANY saved messages
that I want
BP to have in the new system.

No problem.  Copy all of the folders under \Mail to the new machine
and when you set up a new account specify the folder that already
exists for that account.

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Re: please help out a lamer

2000-11-19 Thread Kari Jakobi


Hello Ben,

you wrote on Sunday, November 19, 2000 at about 20:39 h
the following about "please help out a lamer":

KJ You need to extract the registry paths for TB! from your original
KJ machine and copy them into the knew ones. IOW, extract
KJ "HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\RIT" and "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\RIT"
KJ with a batch file with the following commands:

KJ @regedit /e Z:\UserRegSetting.reg "HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT"
KJ @regedit /e Z:\MachineRegSetting.reg "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\RIT"

KJ On your new machine just double click these two *.reg files and
KJ Win-d'oh!s will automatically add the strings.

BP I don't know how to do that. :-)) Are steps posted somewhere??

Just open Notepad.exe, paste the two @regedit lines into it and save
this as bat_registry_settings.bat

Then execute this file and it will all be done automatically for you.
It will create two files: "UserRegSetting.reg" and
"MachineRegSetting.reg" on the specified drive (here: Z:\) which you
can specify to your needs, e.g. C:\TEMP\

These two files need to be copied to your new system and then executed
from any location.

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Re: please help out a lamer

2000-11-19 Thread Karin Spaink

On 19-11-2000 at 20:44, Ben Pugsley kindly wrote:


KS The easy way is of course to simply *install* TB on your new
KS machine. It will automatically create the correct registry
KS entries.

 Right. but I have several accounts, and MANY MANY saved messages that I want
 to have in the new system.

First install TB, so that the registry is updated, *then*
copy mail, filters and accounts as they are saved in your /TB
directory.



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Re[2]: please help out a lamer You Did

2000-11-19 Thread Ben Pugsley

Hi Ben,

Sunday, November 19, 2000, 11:36:03 AM, you wrote:

BP Hi,

BP I'm in  lot of trouble...I ended up getting a new machine, and while I copied
BP the TheBat directory over to the new system, of course I can't get it to run
BP or anything.
   

BP What do I need to do, and how do it.  I still have the old system, and TheBat
BP is still running on it.

BP Thanks...

Thanks to all who responded.  I now have all working well.  Sure is tough to
get old and so forgetful. :-((






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Re: please help out a lamer

2000-11-18 Thread A . Curtis Martin

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When I saw Vandor's message about "please help out a lamer ",
I just had to make these comments:

VG I'm new to The Bat and I have this little annoying problem:

:=) Yes.

VG When I am writing a reply to messages from one of my friends, his
VG (now quoted) lines don't get wrapped (I hope it's the right word :),
VG instead they become very long and I have to scroll my window to
VG follow them.

TB!'s editor will faithfully quote the senders text with the senders
formatting preserved. TB!'s editor is a WYSIWYG editor. How the
formatting appears is exactly how the intended recipient will see it.

TB!'s message viewer, however, has the added ability of window wrapping
long lines of sender message text automatically. This is why the senders
text appeared wrapped when you read it.

VG So far I couldn't find an automated solution to this.

This was a point of discussion some time back, the request made being
that TB!'s editor should automatically wrap these long lines of text
when quoting. The concensus was that auto-wrapping long lines really
aught to be made optional or be tied to the auto-format mode. Ritlabs
attention has however been on other aspects of TB! rather than its
editor, so this issue has not yet been addressed.

VG The messages look ok when I'm reading them in the inbox, and get
VG "messed up" only when I try to reply.

They aren't really messed up when you reply. :=)

Let me demonstrate and I'll put you unto an annoyance with TB!'s viewer
that I've found.

I need a long line of text so I will not wrap this very paragraph that I'm writing. Go 
into the editor preferences and disable autowrapping. Now come back to this paragraph 
and look at it. You will see it as I sent it, i.e., as a single long line of text.

When you reply to this message, you'll see the above paragraph in it's
true formatting glory, i.e., as a single line of text.

Now my annoyance with TB!'s viewer is that a good example of a long line
of text which really shouldn't be wrapped is a regex macro. Now, if a
regex macro is window wrapped by the viewer and you attempt to copy and
paste the macro from the viewer, the pasted version will be wrapped. The
viewer apparently hard-wraps when it does so. Therefore, if I need to
copy and paste a long line of text that has been wrapped by TB!'s
viewer, I have to go into the editor preferences and disable
auto-wrapping (who would intuitively think that an editor setting would
affect the message viewers behaviour anyway?). When I reopen the
message, no window wrapping will be done and I can then safely copy and
paste exactly as formatted. Another way to do this is to hit reply and
copy and paste from the editor window. Ever wonder why so many holler
that their regex macros are not working? They have to be fiddling to get
the macro in a single line when all they really should have needed to do
was a simple copy and paste operation? :=)

My appeal, therefore, is for an easy toggle switch to disable
auto-wrapping in the message viewer. Wrapping in the editor really
shouldn't be tied to wrapping in the viewer but if it has to stay that
way I'll live. :=)

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Re[2]: please help out a lamer

2000-11-18 Thread Vandor Gergely

Hello Januk,

Saturday, November 18, 2000, 7:07:09 AM, you wrote:

JA Hello Vandor,

Arrgh, Vandor is my family name. :) We Hungarians put family names
first... And it's hard to decide which order to use. I think I'll
change it to the international order because I'm in contact with more
foreigners than fellow Hungarians right now :) Sorry for being silly
and OT...

JA On  Sat, 18 Nov 2000  at  04:49:38 GMT +0100 (which was 7:49 PM
JA where I live) witnesses say Vandor Gergely typed:

Wow! What does this thing look like in a template (I mean the "source
code" or script (I think this is the word) for this your time-my time
thing? I need this. :) Argh, I'm totally off-topic again

 I'm new to The Bat and I have this little annoying problem:

JA You came to the right place. :)

 When I am writing a reply to messages from one of my friends, his (now
 quoted) lines don't get wrapped (I hope it's the right word :),

JA That's exactly the right word.

 instead they become very long and I have to scroll my window to follow
 them.

JA That's the annoying part.  Just out of curiosity, what mailer is your
JA friend using?

I dunno. I hope I'll only need to ask him to turn on autowrap...

 So far I couldn't find an automated solution to this.

JA And finally I get to the answer.  Place your cursor anywhere in the
JA line, and use the Alt-L shortcut.  This reflows the text and maintains
JA the quoting.  Try it and see the effects.  It is very handy indeed.

Yes, I have found this thing, although I did it by clicking it in the
menus (as all good lamers do :) But I'm the lazy lamer type, and I was
looking for something *automatic*.

JA As you might have guessed, there are more tricks you can do with
JA the Alt-L shortcut, I can explain them in more detail if you want.

 The messages look ok when I'm reading them in the inbox, and get
 "messed up" only when I try to reply.

JA This is because the paragraphs are all one big line.  But in the
JA viewer, TB will wrap the text to the widow width (with some
JA provisions.)  However, when you're editing, TB displays *exactly* what
JA you will send out (at least in the message body).  So one long line
JA appears as one long line.

And if you don't like it then use another client...
/me sobs :)

JA Hope this helped.

Thanks a lot :)



 




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Re: please help out a lamer

2000-11-18 Thread Januk Aggarwal

Hello Gergely,

On  Sat, 18 Nov 2000  at  17:24:22 GMT +0100 (which was 8:24 AM
where I live) witnesses say Vandor Gergely typed:

 Arrgh, Vandor is my family name. :) We Hungarians put family names
 first... And it's hard to decide which order to use.

Sorry about the mix up.

JA On  Sat, 18 Nov 2000  at  04:49:38 GMT +0100 (which was 7:49 PM
JA where I live) witnesses say Vandor Gergely typed:

 Wow! What does this thing look like in a template (I mean the "source
 code" or script (I think this is the word) for this your time-my time
 thing? I need this. :) Argh, I'm totally off-topic again

Check out the macro page of the FAQ at:

http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/macros.html

If you want more detail about how to use templates, check out the
excellent article by our very own A. Curtis Martin at:

http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/templates.html

snip

JA That's the annoying part.  Just out of curiosity, what mailer is your
JA friend using?

 I dunno. I hope I'll only need to ask him to turn on autowrap...

If he can do that, it might be your best bet.

JA use the Alt-L shortcut.  This reflows the text and maintains
JA the quoting. snip

 Yes, I have found this thing, although I did it by clicking it in the
 menus (as all good lamers do :) But I'm the lazy lamer type, and I was
 looking for something *automatic*.

Ah, completely automatic is a problem.  Curtis explained the
controversy in a response to your original post, so I won't repeat
him.

JA This is because the paragraphs are all one big line.  But in the
JA viewer, TB will wrap the text to the widow width (with some
JA provisions.)  However, when you're editing, TB displays *exactly* what
JA you will send out (at least in the message body).  So one long line
JA appears as one long line.

 And if you don't like it then use another client...
 /me sobs :)

Well, I'm just pointing out how it is, not necessarily how it should
be.  The thing I like about the WYSIWYG editor is that I never have to
worry about ugly formatting.  If I'm sending someone a quote or a
piece of code, this is important.  For day to day mail, the issue is
a bit more difficult.


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please help out a lamer

2000-11-17 Thread Vandor Gergely

Hello TBUDL people,

I'm new to The Bat and I have this little annoying problem:

When I am writing a reply to messages from one of my friends, his (now
quoted) lines don't get wrapped (I hope it's the right word :),
instead they become very long and I have to scroll my window to follow
them. So far I couldn't find an automated solution to this. The
messages look ok when I'm reading them in the inbox, and get "messed
up" only when I try to reply.

Thanks in advance.

Regards,

Gergely Vandor



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Re: please help out a lamer

2000-11-17 Thread Januk Aggarwal

Hello Vandor,

On  Sat, 18 Nov 2000  at  04:49:38 GMT +0100 (which was 7:49 PM
where I live) witnesses say Vandor Gergely typed:

 I'm new to The Bat and I have this little annoying problem:

You came to the right place. :)

 When I am writing a reply to messages from one of my friends, his (now
 quoted) lines don't get wrapped (I hope it's the right word :),

That's exactly the right word.

 instead they become very long and I have to scroll my window to follow
 them.

That's the annoying part.  Just out of curiosity, what mailer is your
friend using?

 So far I couldn't find an automated solution to this.

And finally I get to the answer.  Place your cursor anywhere in the
line, and use the Alt-L shortcut.  This reflows the text and maintains
the quoting.  Try it and see the effects.  It is very handy indeed.

As you might have guessed, there are more tricks you can do with the
Alt-L shortcut, I can explain them in more detail if you want.

 The messages look ok when I'm reading them in the inbox, and get
 "messed up" only when I try to reply.

This is because the paragraphs are all one big line.  But in the
viewer, TB will wrap the text to the widow width (with some
provisions.)  However, when you're editing, TB displays *exactly* what
you will send out (at least in the message body).  So one long line
appears as one long line.

 Thanks in advance.

Hope this helped.



 

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Thanks for writing,
 Januk Aggarwal
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 Using The Bat! 1.48 Beta/6
 under Windows 98 4.10 Build   A 

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