Re: unread mail icon
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 'Lo Keith, On Wed, 30 Oct 2002 15:49:50 + your time, you authored this: KA> It is a bit early in the day for me to be splitting hairs, but ITYM KA> each image not the series :) Yes, indeed :) KA> I'm saddened to read this. It sounds as if you'd rather the bat just KA> stayed frozen all the time. Bats are protected in the UK you know. I bet KA> there'll be a flood of messages to TBUDL in defence of the flapping bat. Yes, that was a lack of Bat tact wasn't it. I'll most definitely offer a retraction when or if the time comes, just to stop the bloodshed - the blood being mine of course ;) - -- Slán, Simon @ theycallmesimon.co.uk ___ Faffing about with TB! v1.61 on W2K SP3 PGP Key: http://pgp.netbanger.com/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Privacy is freedom. Protect your privacy with PGP! Comment: KeyID: 0x5C7E8966 Comment: Fingerprint: 851C F927 0296 FF1C 70A2 474F CB6E 6FFE 5C7E 8966 iQA/AwUBPcAgJctub/5cfolmEQLMowCfQ8RymmPj94mAwwihgVHWqYX1yjMAnime 9Fd+BbP9E1J6BmaW5sz+sADn =laHI -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: unread mail icon
On 30 October 2002 at 13:45:14 in mid:1791977718.20021030134514@;theycallmesimon.co.uk Simon wrote: ... S> Yes, you are correct, the series of images that produce the S> animation are replaced by a single image It is a bit early in the day for me to be splitting hairs, but ITYM each image not the series :) S> , so yes, you effectively get a non-animated animation ;) S> As to the flickering, yes, you can see a *very slight* flicker if S> you stare at the envelope in the tray and watch it cycle through S> the images, but it is barely noticeable, well I should say it is S> barely noticeable to me on my machine. Maybe it would be a little S> more noticeable on others' PCs, I can't say. Currently I need a lot of real estate, so my display is running 1280x1024 (70 Hz), which is pushing it a bit. ... S> Personally, I don't mind the only-just-detectable flicker myself as S> it isn't even remotely as irritating to me as the bat flapping its S> wings all of the time :) I'm saddened to read this. It sounds as if you'd rather the bat just stayed frozen all the time. Bats are protected in the UK you know. I bet there'll be a flood of messages to TBUDL in defence of the flapping bat. ... -- Keith Anderson The Bat! v1.61 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: unread mail icon
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 'Lo Keith, On Wed, 30 Oct 2002 10:20:06 + your time, you authored this: KA> The unread mail icon would remain animated, but show the same icon for KA> each frame of the animation. <...> KA> ...obviously wouldn't know each frame is the same, so the static KA> animation would flicker somewhat... Yes, you are correct, the series of images that produce the animation are replaced by a single image, so yes, you effectively get a non-animated animation ;) As to the flickering, yes, you can see a *very slight* flicker if you stare at the envelope in the tray and watch it cycle through the images, but it is barely noticeable, well I should say it is barely noticeable to me on my machine. Maybe it would be a little more noticeable on others' PCs, I can't say. What I would say, if you have the time (probably about 10 - 15 minutes), is try the mod and see. If the flicker is noticeable on your PC and you find it irritating just drop your original, unmodified, thebat.exe back into your TB! folder and all will be back the way it was. Personally, I don't mind the only-just-detectable flicker myself as it isn't even remotely as irritating to me as the bat flapping its wings all of the time :) - -- Slán, Simon @ theycallmesimon.co.uk ___ Faffing about with TB! v1.61 on W2K SP3 PGP Key: http://pgp.netbanger.com/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Privacy is freedom. Protect your privacy with PGP! Comment: KeyID: 0x5C7E8966 Comment: Fingerprint: 851C F927 0296 FF1C 70A2 474F CB6E 6FFE 5C7E 8966 iQA/AwUBPb/idstub/5cfolmEQIcpgCfX4U3Vy+Q1rOrsT7rRPz+wPnlwDgAoLfN ffaltwMuaFKUtdWLkXkUOSzB =cCvI -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: unread mail icon
On 29 October 2002 at 15:15:39, you wrote: ... S> 'Lo Keith, Hi Simon ... KA>> If there are no suitable alternative solutions [ regarding static unread mail icon ] S> Yes, there is a way of doing it, although I don't know whether you S> will consider it a suitable alternative. It involves using a S> resource editor and an icon editor to modify TB!s resources. S> Nonetheless, the process is a quite a simple one, and involves S> assigning your own icon resource to the existing animation S> resources in TB!. ... Thank you for the very detailed instructions. I know it takes time to put together a post like that. ... S> This is how you would change the animated bat to something S> 'appearing as static' in Resource Hacker: If I understand the gist, you are explaining how one might replace each of the icons used in displaying the animated unread mail icon (the flying bat) with the same icon. The unread mail icon would remain animated, but show the same icon for each frame of the animation. There are a couple of drawbacks to this approach, one of which is that TB! obviously wouldn't know each frame is the same, so the static animation would flicker somewhat. At least it would on my box, because windows task manager minimised to the tray does (which might be a bug). -- Keith Anderson The Bat! v1.61 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: unread mail icon
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 'Lo Keith, On Fri, 25 Oct 2002 16:53:26 +0100 your time, you authored this: KA> If there are no suitable alternative solutions Yes, there is a way of doing it, although I don't know whether you will consider it a suitable alternative. It involves using a resource editor and an icon editor to modify TB!s resources. Nonetheless, the process is a quite a simple one, and involves assigning your own icon resource to the existing animation resources in TB!. If you don't have a resource editor (like eXeScope or Restorator), then a freeware app called Resource Hacker will do the job nicely. Any modest icon editor will do as well. You can get the free Resource Hacker from here: http://www.users.on.net/johnson/resourcehacker/ These snaps are the TB! tray icon without mail and with mail after modding with Resource Hacker.. the envelope icon is taken from a TB! icon resource: http://www.netbanger.com/offsite/bat_nomail.gif http://www.netbanger.com/offsite/bat_mail.gif This is how you would change the animated bat to something 'appearing as static' in Resource Hacker: Step 1. ~~~ 1. Make a copy of thebat.exe 2. Open Resource Hacker and open thebat.exe 3. Expand the folder "Icon Group" in the resource tree 4. Select the subfolder "ICON_VIEWER" and expand it 5i. Select and right-click the resource "1049"... 5ii. ...choose the third context menu entry, "Save [ICON GROUP:ICON_VIEWER : 1049]..." and save it to disk as "ICON_VIEWER.ico" Step 2. 6. Open the save file ICON_VIEWER.ico in an icon editor and add a copy the 16 colour 16x16 icon. Add a 256 colour 16x16 icon to the icon resource and paste the 16 colour 16x16 icon into it. 7. Save and exit. Step 3. ~~~ 8. In Resource Hacker, under the 'Action' menu, choose "Replace Icon.." 9. In the new window, choose the "Open file with new icon" button and browse to and select your modifed icon resource ICON_VIEWER.ico 10. In the right-hand pane of the window, under the 'Select icon to replace" list, select "Z_BAT_0" 11. Click the 'Replace' button. 12. Repeat 8-11 for icons Z_BAT_1, Z_BAT_2, Z_BAT_3, Z_BAT_4, Z_BAT_5 13. Save and Exit Now when you load TB! you will have an envelope icon in the tray rather than the animated bat when you have unread mail. - -- Slán, Simon @ theycallmesimon.co.uk ___ Faffing about with TB! v1.61 on W2K SP3 PGP Key: http://pgp.netbanger.com/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Privacy is freedom. Protect your privacy with PGP! Comment: KeyID: 0x5C7E8966 Comment: Fingerprint: 851C F927 0296 FF1C 70A2 474F CB6E 6FFE 5C7E 8966 iQA/AwUBPb6mJ8tub/5cfolmEQKULwCghA21ldGe1oynk8EjFf9e19G6ofQAoLTz mhgYr0onMbEzR0Jsr0/OPmfX =Ti+N -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: unread mail icon
KA> I previously expressed an interest in learning how to configure TB! so KA> the icon it shows when I have unread mail is not animated but does KA> differ from that shown when I have no unread mail. Unless I've missed KA> something in the replies and other information I have consulted, there KA> is no way to do this. I use a little program that shows an envelope icon in the tray notif. area (screen-captured from Outlook's ;) ) and launch it with a filter that caches every incoming mail. When I double-click the icon, it makes TB show up and dissapears from the TNA. That way it behaves like Outlook, which is the way I like. The only difference with Outlook is that the icon doesn't dissapear when I read a message. It can be implemented with Read filters, but it has the inconvenience that you need to set a filter for each folder, because of a shortcoming in TB!. And I have a lot of folders, so it isn't practical for me. The program is 200kb, so if you want it, I can send it by private mail. -- Ricardo M. Reyes | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | (Mar del Plata - Argentina) | Usando The Bat! 1.60c Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
unread mail icon
Hi I previously expressed an interest in learning how to configure TB! so the icon it shows when I have unread mail is not animated but does differ from that shown when I have no unread mail. Unless I've missed something in the replies and other information I have consulted, there is no way to do this. Unchecking Options | Preferences | General | Icon animation when unread messages are detected seems to freeze the bat in mid-flap (if it's flying) and inhibit the icon from indicating whether I have unread mail. I'd be interested in alternative solutions, but the best one I can think of - except it's not implemented :) - is to have the option to set the icon to (say) one of the current animated icons when I have unread mail. I don't think hiding the taskbar/tray or using sounds or using the mail ticker (tm) will be satisfactory for me but I could be wrong. If there are no suitable alternative solutions, I'm considering raising this as a wish/bug and would appreciate any advice. Thanks Keith -- Keith Anderson The Bat! v1.61 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
