Re: [TCP] geeky grammar: log onto versus log on to

2007-01-31 Thread Bonnie Granat
This is how I do it:

To access your network drive, click button name in bold, enter your
username and password, and then click Logon, or whatever -- in bold.

[Note: The first click above might not be necessary, so just drop that
phrase.]

Bonnie Granat
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 -Original Message-
 From: Brierley, Sean
 
 Actually, log onto or log on to is the question. Those phrases cannot
 always be ignored, as you point out with your rewriting of the click
 instruction.
 
 Log on to the notwork to access your notwork drive.
 
 Log onto the notwork to access your notwork drive.
 



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Re: [TCP] geeky grammar: log onto versus log on to

2007-01-31 Thread Brierley, Sean
Recasting the sentence is always one way to go, sure. But I am looking
to tackle the issue of the verbal itself, head on, no hiding 

Cheers,

Sean

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Subject: Re: [TCP] geeky grammar: log onto versus log on to

This is how I do it:

To access your network drive, click button name in bold, enter your
username and password, and then click Logon, or whatever -- in bold.

[Note: The first click above might not be necessary, so just drop that
phrase.]

Bonnie Granat
http://www.GranatEdit.com


 -Original Message-
 From: Brierley, Sean
 
 Actually, log onto or log on to is the question. Those phrases cannot 
 always be ignored, as you point out with your rewriting of the click 
 instruction.
 
 Log on to the notwork to access your notwork drive.
 
 Log onto the notwork to access your notwork drive.
 



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Re: [TCP] geeky grammar: log onto versus log on to

2007-01-29 Thread Milan Davidovic
On 1/29/07, Brierley, Sean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Question: Should it not be Log on to the network
 Reasons being
 on = adverb modifying log
 to preposition in the phrase to the portal today

Works for me; think of log on (or log in) as a phrasal verb.

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Re: [TCP] geeky grammar: log onto versus log on to

2007-01-29 Thread Brierley, Sean
So, log onto would mean to write notes on top of?

grin 

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Subject: Re: [TCP] geeky grammar: log onto versus log on to

On 1/29/07, Brierley, Sean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Question: Should it not be Log on to the network
 Reasons being
 on = adverb modifying log
 to preposition in the phrase to the portal today

Works for me; think of log on (or log in) as a phrasal verb.


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Re: [TCP] geeky grammar: log onto versus log on to

2007-01-29 Thread Charles Beck
Either that, or throw another piece of wood on the fire.

grin right back
 

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Subject: Re: [TCP] geeky grammar: log onto versus log on to

So, log onto would mean to write notes on top of?

grin 

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On 1/29/07, Brierley, Sean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Question: Should it not be Log on to the network
 Reasons being
 on = adverb modifying log
 to preposition in the phrase to the portal today

Works for me; think of log on (or log in) as a phrasal verb.


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Re: [TCP] geeky grammar: log onto versus log on to

2007-01-29 Thread Bill Swallow
Log... it's better than bad, it's GOOD!

On 1/29/07, Charles Beck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Either that, or throw another piece of wood on the fire.

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Re: [TCP] geeky grammar: log onto versus log on to

2007-01-29 Thread Milan Davidovic
On 1/29/07, Brierley, Sean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 So, log onto would mean to write notes on top of?
 grin

log is a transitive verb, so a better formation would be log
something onto something else

he said, with a straight face

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Re: [TCP] geeky grammar: log onto versus log on to

2007-01-29 Thread Brierley, Sean
Sounds like we have two approaches.

1) To log on to the network, click the login button.

2) To log yourself onto the network, click the login button/

Which is better and why? Thoughts?

Cheers,

Sean 

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On 1/29/07, Brierley, Sean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 So, log onto would mean to write notes on top of?
 grin

log is a transitive verb, so a better formation would be log
something onto something else

he said, with a straight face


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Re: [TCP] geeky grammar: log onto versus log on to

2007-01-29 Thread Bill Swallow
Why would you log in to log on?

On 1/29/07, Brierley, Sean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Sounds like we have two approaches.

 1) To log on to the network, click the login button.

 2) To log yourself onto the network, click the login button/

 Which is better and why? Thoughts?

 Cheers,

 Sean

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Re: [TCP] geeky grammar: log onto versus log on to

2007-01-29 Thread Brierley, Sean
logon button

logon

Sheesh

lol! 

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Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 11:16 AM
To: Brierley, Sean
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Why would you log in to log on?

On 1/29/07, Brierley, Sean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Sounds like we have two approaches.

 1) To log on to the network, click the login button.

 2) To log yourself onto the network, click the login button/

 Which is better and why? Thoughts?

 Cheers,

 Sean

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Re: [TCP] geeky grammar: log onto versus log on to

2007-01-29 Thread Al Geist
 
Dori Green wrote:

KISS.

Click on the LOGIN button.


As per Apple, Microsoft and most other style guides, it's Click the Login
button.

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Re: [TCP] geeky grammar: log onto versus log on to

2007-01-29 Thread Brierley, Sean
Actually, log onto or log on to is the question. Those phrases cannot
always be ignored, as you point out with your rewriting of the click
instruction.

Log on to the notwork to access your notwork drive.

Log onto the notwork to access your notwork drive.

Also, for another topic, maybe, I use click the Logon button rather
than click on the Logon button because I find on adds nothing.
Horses for courses though. I once had a boss who insisted that in the UK
click on was correct and click without the on was not 

Cheers,

Sean
 

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KISS.

Click on the LOGIN button.

Is there a computer user who doesn't know what this does?
If so, they probably need more help than I can provide in a manual.

Dori Green


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