Re: Harmonizing DMB membership expiring dates

2012-01-24 Thread Soren Hansen
2012/1/20 Martin Pitt martin.p...@ubuntu.com:
 Benjamin Drung [2012-01-09 20:40 +0100]:
 What do you think? Are we allowed to adjust the membership expiration
 dates?
 While it technically does not match the letter of what people voted
 on, I can't imagine anyone seriously complaining. Let's not be overly
 bureaucratic here, IMHO :-)

 Let's see what the other TB members think.

Yeah, this doesn't even give me a reading at all on my controversial-o-meter :)

Fine with me.

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Re: Mesa floting point patent enquiry - continued

2012-01-24 Thread Mark Shuttleworth


On the basis that apps would not need to be recompiled if this needs to 
be changed later, I still support enabling the functionality.


Mark

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Re: Kubuntu LTS

2012-01-24 Thread Martin Pitt
Martin Pitt [2011-12-20  9:23 +0100]:
 Hello Jonathan,
 
 Jonathan Riddell [2011-12-12 17:15 +]:
  https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/12.04/LTS-Proposal
 
 Jamie's questions would interest me as well.

Aside from those, there is one thing which fell through the cracks in
the TB meeting: qtwebkit-source is not merely a Qt binding around
webkit, but a full code copy; this would need to be updated
throughout the full LTS cycle. Is the Kubuntu team going to do this?

Thank you!

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Ubuntu Business Remix update

2012-01-24 Thread Mark Shuttleworth

Hi folk

Allison made me aware of an off-list discussion amongst the TB regarding 
the Business Remix. Here's an update from my perspective, and to avoid 
further confusion please keep me and/or the CC in the loop on similar 
conversations in future.


 * The work has been done as a remix specifically to avoid concerns 
about Canonical's best  work on packages going into anything other than 
the archives which are widely available. The team had to re-do their 
work to meet this requirement.


 * Steve Langasek raised a concern with me, that Partner might not be 
considered part of Ubuntu for remix purposes. That was a surprise to 
me, and is a simple omission rather than intended outcome. We index 
Partner packages in the Software Center - they are as much part of 
Ubuntu as multiverse it - they reflect packages where redistribution is 
not possible, and Canonical has to be directly involved as a contractual 
requirement of the ISV. We should simply clarify this in the remix 
guidelines if it is an issue.


 * There is no new precedent on proprietary bits here - remixes can 
certainly already pull from restricted and multiverse.


 * To avoid a delta in the installer and other packages, the EULA's of 
included packages from Partner will be presented through the web on 
download rather than in the installer or desktop UX.


I don't believe there are any technical issues that warrant concern on 
the part of the TB, but am happy to be part of the discussion if you 
feel otherwise. From a CC perspective, again I don't believe there are 
policy questions or concerns. We would have no issue if a third party 
published a remix of this nature. It was a debate as to whether the name 
should be Canonical Business Desktop or Ubuntu Business Desktop, we 
felt the awkwardness of differentiating this from Ubuntu was very high - 
we do not want to be lumped in the same category as Fedora / RHEL as 
it is a completely different proposition from both Ubuntu and Canonical. 
There's no legal issue w.r.t. the trademark, both because this is a 
remix (and within guidelines for the use of the name) and because 
Canonical owns the mark in the first place.


Mark
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Re: Mesa floting point patent enquiry - continued

2012-01-24 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 11:33:16AM +1100, Christopher James Halse Rogers wrote:
 Sorry for not following up on this sooner.  I'd like to resolve this now
 that Mesa 8.0 is close to landing in Precise.  The last status is
 ambiguous to me: Colin Watson's response[1] suggests against enabling
 the extensions, while Mark Shuttleworth's response[2] is for enabling
 them, and there doesn't appear to be a resolution of the two.

I'm still unconvinced personally, but I'll defer to Mark.

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