[tdf-test] Subject with Umlauts: äöüß
Text in body is fine, but some spam got there with subject ??? ??? (just questionmarks) - was it a broken mail, or is it a flaw in moderation-handling? This subject should read: Subject with Umlauts: äöüß ciao Christian -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: test+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/test/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[tdf-test] Test with image attachment
Hi *, let's see what the list does with an attachment - will that be sent to moderators or dropped? ciao Christian -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to test+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/test/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[tdf-test] Re: Digest of test@documentfoundation.org issue 68 (315-316)
Hi *, On Sunday, October 16, 2011, wrote: Topics (messages 315 through 316): [tdf-test] Starting testing again 315 - Alexander Werner a...@documentfoundation.org javascript:; [tdf-test] Starting testing again 316 - Alexander Werner a...@documentfoundation.org javascript:; Now I can reproduce the gmail-digest problem: Gmail Offline for Chrome browser has a bug and doesn't display the content neither in view mode, nor in reply mode. But it is in beta anyway, and no sane person would use that mode to do massive amount of mail reading/replying anyway (as it doesn't support keyboard shortcuts and defaults to rich text/html reply that cannot be turned off) So just for mentioned for completion. ciao Christian -- This mail was parsed by pymime, and was sent from Christian Lohmaier lohmaier+ooofut...@googlemail.com to test@documentfoundation.org test@documentfoundation.org.
Re: [tdf-test] testlisten test :-)
Mit klammer = Absender in Wer das hier liest ist doof. -- This mail was parsed by pymime, and was sent from Christian Lohmaier (klammer) lohmaier+ooofut...@googlemail.com to test@documentfoundation.org.
[tdf-test] Re: testlisten test :-)
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Re: [tdf-test] Re: Digest of test@documentfoundation.org issue 43 (201-202)
Hi again,... On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 2:50 PM, e-letter inp...@gmail.com wrote: On 15/06/2011, Christian Lohmaier lohmaier+ooofut...@googlemail.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 11:45 PM, Friedrich Strohmaier damokles4-lis...@bits-fritz.de wrote: e-letter schrieb: On 12/06/2011, Friedrich Strohmaier damokles4-lis...@bits-fritz.de wrote: This does not occur with gmail; all messages are _not_ received as attachments but as a single message So *GMAIL IS BUGGY*. No, the description is wrong of course the messages are /received/ as attachments, they are received as everybody else does. There are no special messages crafted for gmail users, the original source is the same for all. But gmail /*displays*/ them as a single message. Whether you consider this as a bug or feature is up to you :-) So gmail is breaking the (rfc?) convention? That makes this inline display behaviour a bug, in my opinion but probably a feature by others. No. Read again. How it displays them is up to gmail. And whether or not you consider this a bug of a feature is a matter of taste. What definitely /IS/ a bug/lacking functionality though is the possibility to treat the seperate messages as seperate, as would be needed to properly reply in order to not break the thread. Interestingly, this message shows the original message content after activating the reply hyperlink; looking at the header and comparing with the digest mode message header, maybe the from address being test... is the cause. No - you cited another one from test previously that according to your description showed the problem. [request single message before replying] And this is the only way of not breaking the thread with gmail. That's the other reason why it is pointless to try to fix something here that is not broken on our end. In other mailing lists the thread is maintained if the subject text is copied, but may be broken if there is a small change in space characters. No, it is not. It is for *you*, but only you, but not for those who actually track threads by the proper headers. When changing subject in gmail, it will always throw away all References and In-Reply-to headers. Using gmail for mailinglists were you reply to is anti-social as written before, as you don't have a chance of keeping the thread. You will always break the thread on reply, messing the lists up for everyone, those who read it later in one of the archives, anyone who uses a threaded reader (and that also includes gmail, where threaded is more like collected by summary). Isn't relying on threads also weak when threads become long and may continue beyond the normal 1 month categories of mail archives? That's the point of keeping the thread, to be able to continue reading it. And mail-archives are out of the question here, how they handle threading and display is up to them. 1month categories does men absolutely /nothing/ to gmane or mail-archive.com The month-categorization by classic archives just is a help for the reader to be able to quickly locate a message when the user knows when the mail was written. But with search becoming more powerful (and affordable in terms of disk-space requirements and computing power on the server that hosts the archives), this is no longer a real issue. But even if it was: Those who take part in the discussion are affected, not only the archives. ciao Christian -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to test+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/test/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-test] Re: Digest of test@documentfoundation.org issue 43 (201-202)
Hi for the last time in this topic. On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 10:28 AM, e-letter inp...@gmail.com wrote: On 12/06/2011, Friedrich Strohmaier damokles4-lis...@bits-fritz.de wrote: From gmail view, I would expect them to say mailing list managers for R, gnuplot, claws-mail, imagemagick, etc do not delete the digest-mode message content when the reply hyperlink is activated. We suggest LO programmers investigate their choice of mailing list manager. Again this is bullshit. Sorry, no nice words anymore as I've written the same stuff often enough now. * There is nothing wrong with the digests * GMail does not strip anything when I reply in gmail. Whatever the problem, it is at your end. It definitely is nothing wrong with the messages sent from the LO list. And it is not a general problem with gmail either. At least I did never had a problem, not even with the digest-message of this list you used as example. Noone at LO has indicated the type of mailing list manager used mlmmj - but this has been written already in numerous places, and you could just have asked for it. in order to make a comparison with other mailing lists and therefore it is a false conclusion to claim LO mailing list manager is 100 % perfect (didn't know such perfect software existed, but that is another discussion). Let gmail display the original source, then you can inspect the message. Should you be able to spot the slightest technical failure, I promise I'll work my ass off to fix it. But again: There is none. ciao Christian -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to test+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/test/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[tdf-test] Re: Digest of test@documentfoundation.org issue 42 (188-200)
Here, reply from gmail, without edits. So it isn't even a problem of gmail, but only for you using gmail, as my gmail doesn't have a problem replying with the content. Check your labs or whatever settings. ciao Christian On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 6:00 AM, test+h...@documentfoundation.org wrote: Topics (messages 188 through 200): [tdf-test] mailing list behaviour failure, Re: Digest of us...@libreoffice.org issue 296 (6534-6563) 188 - e-letter inp...@gmail.com [tdf-test] Re: mlmmj administrativa 189 - e-letter inp...@gmail.com 190 - Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org 191 - e-letter inp...@gmail.com 192 - Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org 193 - e-letter inp...@gmail.com 194 - e-letter inp...@gmail.com [tdf-test] Re: Digest of test@documentfoundation.org issue 41 (187) 195 - Christian Lohmaier lohmaier+ooofut...@googlemail.com [tdf-test] mailing list behaviour failure, Re: Digest of us...@libreoffice.org issue 296 (6534-6563) 196 - Christian Lohmaier lohmaier+ooofut...@googlemail.com [tdf-test] mailing list behaviour failure, Re: Digest of us...@libreoffice.org issue 296 (6534-6563) 197 - e-letter inp...@gmail.com [tdf-test] mailing list behaviour failure, Re: Digest of us...@libreoffice.org issue 296 (6534-6563) 198 - Christian Lohmaier lohmaier+ooofut...@googlemail.com [tdf-test] mailing list behaviour failure, Re: Digest of us...@libreoffice.org issue 296 (6534-6563) 199 - e-letter inp...@gmail.com [tdf-test] mailing list behaviour failure, Re: Digest of us...@libreoffice.org issue 296 (6534-6563) 200 - Christian Lohmaier lohmaier+ooofut...@googlemail.com Below is verbatim copy of the reply dialogue text box; note the disappearance of the messages! On 08/06/2011, users+h...@libreoffice.org users+h...@libreoffice.org wrote: Topics (messages 6534 through 6563): [libreoffice-users] Re: Calc: sheet name font size 6534 - T. R. Valentine trvalent...@gmail.com 6550 - T. M. Hind II t.m.hi...@t-online.de [libreoffice-users] Latest 3.4 does not work on Server 2008 SP2 6535 - Joe Siebenmann joes0...@gmail.com [libreoffice-users] Problem Copy Image From Website 6536 - Cor Nouws oo...@nouenoff.nl [libreoffice-users] text frame 6537 - e-letter inp...@gmail.com [libreoffice-users] text frame 6538 - Regina Henschel rb.hensc...@t-online.de [libreoffice-users] text frame 6539 - Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk [libreoffice-users] Recalculate/SUMPRODUCT takes too much time in Libreoffice 3.4 6540 - pkatsoulis pkatsou...@gmail.com [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice Manager disc usage 6541 - Cor Nouws oo...@nouenoff.nl 6544 - djfw davidjwhe...@yahoo.com [libreoffice-users] Latest 3.4 does not work on Server 2008 SP2 6542 - Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk [libreoffice-users] Latest 3.4 does not work on Server 2008 SP2 6543 - Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk [libreoffice-users] Re: SVG embedding in LibreOffice 6545 - NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net [libreoffice-users] Error in libreoffice 3.4 6546 - Wolfgang Maron wolfg...@wolfgangmaron.de [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice Manager disc usage 6547 - Cor Nouws oo...@nouenoff.nl [libreoffice-users] Install errors 6548 - BudScan buds...@gmail.com [libreoffice-users] Release dates/versions 6549 - plino pedl...@gmail.com [libreoffice-users] Installed 3.4.0, opens with document recovery... 6551 - Darrell Gambrell drgambrell@hotmail.com [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice Manager disc usage 6552 - Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk [libreoffice-users] Installed 3.4.0, opens with document recovery... 6553 - Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk [libreoffice-users] Installed 3.4.0, opens with document recovery... 6554 - Darrell Gambrell drgambrell@hotmail.com [libreoffice-users] Re: Re: SVG embedding in LibreOffice 6555 - Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk [libreoffice-users] Re: Calc: sheet name font size 6556 - T. R. Valentine trvalent...@gmail.com [libreoffice-users] Re: Re: SVG embedding in LibreOffice 6557 - Steve Edmonds steve.edmo...@ptglobal.com [libreoffice-users] Re: Calc: sheet name font size 6558 - Scott Castaline skotch...@gmail.com [libreoffice-users] Re: Re: SVG embedding in LibreOffice 6559 - planas jsloz...@gmail.com [libreoffice-users] help package installation failure 6560 - e-letter inp...@gmail.com [libreoffice-users] Any way to keep with previous in Writer? 6561 - Wayne Stidolph wa...@stidolph.com [libreoffice-users] New Member 6562 - Klaibson Ribeiro klaib...@gmail.com [libreoffice-users] help package installation failure 6563 - Steve Edmonds steve.edmo...@ptglobal.com -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to test+h...@documentfoundation.org
Re: [tdf-test] test
Hi * On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 7:02 PM, Florian Effenberger flo...@gmail.com wrote: test Immer so geheimnisvoll, ohne Hinweis was Du gerade testest :-) Immer noch die domain-keys? ciao Christian -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to test+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/test/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[tdf-test] Re: debugging mail-archive-links
all good things... On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 8:15 PM, Christian Lohmaier lohmaier+libreoff...@googlemail.com wrote: list-post address should not include and let's see... -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to test+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/test/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-test] Test: please ignore!
Hi Randy, On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 1:16 PM, Randy Kramer rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: It may be redundant to say test. I'm trying to learn how to use the new (or older) archive headers, like Archive At, If you want to use them for your own mailinglists, then refer to http://www.mail-archive.com/faq.html#listserver - there is described how to create the hash. It basically is a concatenation of msg-id and list-address, hashed with sha1 and encoded with base64 so I want to receive a few posts from this list. As you're posting with gmail, you'r very likely in need for mails by others, as you'll only see your mail as it left gmail, not as you received it back from the mailinglist, so here we go :-) In gmail, you have to use the show original mail feature to see the header with the URL. I may have to ask someone else to post one, but I'll do that later if I have to. When using gmail to send/read, yes, you need to ask someone else to post. But if you're only interested in receiving some URLs: All the libreoffice and documentfoundation mailinglists now have that header added (the only list that does not is the developer list that is run at freedesktop.org) ciao Christian -- Dies ist ein Testfooter. Er enthält Umlaute und Sonderzeichen. äüß ÖÄÜ E-mail to test+h...@documentfoundation.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/test/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-test] Test: please ignore!
Hi Randy, On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 5:07 PM, Randy Kramer rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks very much! :-) And for the other good information in your email! Randy Kramer PS: I was going to try to find out which list server software these lists use, but if you can tell me, it will save me some digging. (I understand that Mailman supports RFC-5064.) We use mlmmj - http://mlmmj.org/ but that by itself doesn't really support hooking it up with the archive-at header and also has other major limitations (as it will not handle cases where the footer contains characters not available in the postings charset), thus we use (used from the beginning) an additional filter in between (pymime): pymime can be foundhere: https://github.com/tdf/pymime HTH, ciao Christian -- Dies ist ein Testfooter. Er enthält Umlaute und Sonderzeichen. äüß ÖÄÜ E-mail to test+h...@documentfoundation.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/test/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-test] Wieder mal ne Testmail
Hi Alex, *, On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 2:58 PM, Alexander Werner a...@documentfoundation.org wrote: Dies ist ein Test öäüß Da antworte ich doch gleich mal drauf :-) ciao Christian -- Dies ist ein Testfooter. Er enthält Umlaute und Sonderzeichen. äüß ÖÄÜ E-mail to test+h...@documentfoundation.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/test/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[tdf-test] Changing the subject in gmail (was: test)
Hi *, On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 2:52 PM, Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org wrote: test Abusing this to double-check whether gmail is still removing the references, or whether it just sorts the messages in the UI itself to different threads/conversation groups ciao Christian -- Dies ist ein Testfooter. Er enthält Umlaute und Sonderzeichen. äüß ÖÄÜ E-mail to test+h...@documentfoundation.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/test/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-test] noch ein testfooter
Hi Alex, *, On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 7:50 PM, Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org wrote: 幹得好！ Ja, wirklich gut gemacht :-) das Hangul/Koreanisch war google-Translator? Der Abstand des Footer scheint mir ein bisserl groß, fügt da sowohl pymime als auch der footer Selbst Zusätzlichen Abstand ein? oder hattet ihr unter euren Postings schon alle selber 'ne Leerzeile? ciao Christian -- Dies ist ein Testfooter. Er enthält Umlaute und Sonderzeichen. äüß ÖÄÜ E-mail to test+h...@documentfoundation.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/test/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
