Re: A different way of installing Fedora
On Wed, 2013-09-25 at 21:38 -0400, David wrote: Well. Than answers that then. You now have a somewhat limited eclectic 'circle jerk'. Enjoy. Please refrain from posting this kind of unnecessarily rude mail to test@, thanks. We're trying to keep a constructive, friendly atmosphere. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net http://www.happyassassin.net -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: A different way of installing Fedora
On Wed, 2013-09-25 at 21:32 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 06:13:48PM -0700, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX wrote: I don't know enough about Fedora installation to know what, if any, processor related optimizations are made in the install instead of boot time. This is perfectly fine and will work, with one big exception -- by default, we only make an initrd that fits the initial system, which means you might not have all of the drivers you need. You can either reconfigure dracut to generate a generic initramfs, or you can simply boot into the rescue image that's generated on install and repair from there. There's no install-time tuning and it's a general ideal for the system to be as stateless as possible, because this makes administration much easier. All of this becomes very important with virtualization, where it's very common to migrate systems to not-identical virtual hardware. In practice, though, even the 'non-portable' initramfs is _reasonably_ portable across typical modern PC hardware, since a lot of stuff uses generic drivers nowadays. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net http://www.happyassassin.net -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: A different way of installing Fedora
On Thu, 2013-09-26 at 16:23 +1200, Gavin Flower wrote: On 26/09/13 15:53, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 09/25/2013 06:13 PM, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX wrote: My concern is wether this procedure results in a kernel that is less optimized for the CPU it is running on than if Fedora had been installed directly on that machine. I don't know enough about Fedora installation to know what, if any, processor related optimizations are made in the install instead of boot time. I don't think it makes any difference now. Years ago (not sure how many), there was both the 386 and 686 kernels and that was decided by the installer. Now, the only possible difference if you aren't installing 64-bit is whether you get the PAE kernel or not. And I don't know how that's decided or even if there is a choice. There also used to be a distinction between kernels compiled for a single core processor and ones for a machine with multiple cores - though at that time (AFAIR) CPU chips normally had only one core, so we are talking about motherboards with slots for 2 or more CPU chips. Also, I think they were all 32 bit, at least the ones I might be able to afford That hasn't been the case for rather a long time. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net http://www.happyassassin.net -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: cronie rpm error
On Thu, 2013-09-26 at 15:43 -0500, Kevin Martin wrote: /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.9wvQS9: line 2: fg: no job control error: %preun(cronie-1.4.11-1.fc20.x86_64) scriptlet failed, exit status 1 Error in PREUN scriptlet in rpm package cronie error: cronie-1.4.11-1.fc20.x86_64: erase failed This kind of thing should be reported to Bugzilla, but may well already have been, so check that first. You also might want to check the last few changes to the cronie package repo in git - you'll probably see a change to %preun, and you might be able to see what someone got wrong, and mention that in the bug report :) Thanks for the report! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net http://www.happyassassin.net -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: Update criteria change and proposal
On Wed, 2013-09-18 at 17:48 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: For those who weren't present at today's blocker review meeting - http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-blocker-review/2013-09-18/ - we agreed to change the Alpha criteria to require only console updating to work, and move the requirement for graphical updating to work to Beta or later. I have updated the Alpha criteria already: https://fedoraproject.org/w/index.php?title=Fedora_20_Alpha_Release_Criteriadiff=353642oldid=352247 and I hereby propose the following change for Beta: https://fedoraproject.org/w/index.php?title=User:Adamwill/Draft_beta_criteria_sandboxdiff=353645oldid=353643 it's pretty straightforward, it just uses the same wording we used to have at Alpha with obvious tweaks. Upshot is simply that the requirement for graphical updating to work is moved from Alpha to Beta, as we basically agreed at the meeting. The test case page would be updated to link to both criteria. Comments, suggestions etc welcome, as this is a straightforward change, if no-one objects I'll put it into production pretty soon. Thanks! I've gone ahead and put this into production now. Thanks folks! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net http://www.happyassassin.net -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: A different way of installing Fedora
On 27/09/13 19:02, Adam Williamson wrote: On Thu, 2013-09-26 at 16:23 +1200, Gavin Flower wrote: On 26/09/13 15:53, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 09/25/2013 06:13 PM, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX wrote: My concern is wether this procedure results in a kernel that is less optimized for the CPU it is running on than if Fedora had been installed directly on that machine. I don't know enough about Fedora installation to know what, if any, processor related optimizations are made in the install instead of boot time. I don't think it makes any difference now. Years ago (not sure how many), there was both the 386 and 686 kernels and that was decided by the installer. Now, the only possible difference if you aren't installing 64-bit is whether you get the PAE kernel or not. And I don't know how that's decided or even if there is a choice. There also used to be a distinction between kernels compiled for a single core processor and ones for a machine with multiple cores - though at that time (AFAIR) CPU chips normally had only one core, so we are talking about motherboards with slots for 2 or more CPU chips. Also, I think they were all 32 bit, at least the ones I might be able to afford That hasn't been the case for rather a long time. I've been around a long time... :-) The second computer I programmed (using FORTRAN IV) was an IBM 1130. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: A different way of installing Fedora
On Fri, 2013-09-27 at 22:06 +1200, Gavin Flower wrote: That hasn't been the case for rather a long time. I've been around a long time... :-) The second computer I programmed (using FORTRAN IV) was an IBM 1130. The point I was making is that it is not a current concern. Maybe interesting historical note, or whatever, but not something anyone doing what Chuck is doing needs to worry about. I do find the 'who's been using computers longer?' competitions that seem to be ensuing on all sorts of lists lately a bit tiresome :) -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net http://www.happyassassin.net -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: A different way of installing Fedora
On 09/27/2013 01:05 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Fri, 2013-09-27 at 22:06 +1200, Gavin Flower wrote: snip I do find the 'who's been using computers longer?' competitions that seem to be ensuing on all sorts of lists lately a bit tiresome :) Why tiresome? It is a bit interesting. Way better than some of the vitriol showing up on the lists. I remember programming a RemRand steel drum memory computer using a teletype and punched paper tape. I also remember seeing a U-2 in use running a single application (civilian payroll) at a Navy facility. None used Fedora. -- Regards, OldFart -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
no initramfs for rescue kernels?
This must be transient, even though it always happens for me, because otherwise there wouldn't be the luks encryption blocker bug for the rescue kernel. That person obviously has an initramfs. Yet there's an old F19 bug that was never proposed as blocker from someone else who ran into this (apparently). New bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1013087 Old bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=983287 Anaconda calls new-kernel-pkg for the primary kernel that's installed. So I'm assuming anaconda should call it for the rescue kernel, but perhaps that's wrong and I've tagged this bug with the wrong component. Chris Murphy-- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: A different way of installing Fedora
On 28/09/13 05:18, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote: On 09/27/2013 01:05 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Fri, 2013-09-27 at 22:06 +1200, Gavin Flower wrote: snip I do find the 'who's been using computers longer?' competitions that seem to be ensuing on all sorts of lists lately a bit tiresome :) Why tiresome? It is a bit interesting. Way better than some of the vitriol showing up on the lists. I remember programming a RemRand steel drum memory computer using a teletype and punched paper tape. I also remember seeing a U-2 in use running a single application (civilian payroll) at a Navy facility. None used Fedora. Yes,it great to find not everyone here is a Johny-Come-Lately! :-) Some people start programming young these days! I'm coaching an 11 year old in Java, he has his own Linux box. He got into Java by himself when he was 10, despite neither of his parents being in IT. His mother is a friend of my wife's, and he suddenly phoned up in February asking if I could help him. I have introduced him to PostgreSQL SQL, and later I think I will also get him into C and other languages. I was 18 before I had a chance to write programs - I think he will better than I ever was, before he is 18! Cheers, Gavin -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: A different way of installing Fedora
On 09/27/2013 01:43 PM, Gavin Flower wrote: On 28/09/13 05:18, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote: On 09/27/2013 01:05 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Fri, 2013-09-27 at 22:06 +1200, Gavin Flower wrote: snip I do find the 'who's been using computers longer?' competitions that seem to be ensuing on all sorts of lists lately a bit tiresome :) Why tiresome? It is a bit interesting. Way better than some of the vitriol showing up on the lists. I remember programming a RemRand steel drum memory computer using a teletype and punched paper tape. I also remember seeing a U-2 in use running a single application (civilian payroll) at a Navy facility. None used Fedora. Yes,it great to find not everyone here is a Johny-Come-Lately! :-) Some people start programming young these days! I'm coaching an 11 year old in Java, he has his own Linux box. He got into Java by himself when he was 10, despite neither of his parents being in IT. His mother is a friend of my wife's, and he suddenly phoned up in February asking if I could help him. I have introduced him to PostgreSQL SQL, and later I think I will also get him into C and other languages. I was 18 before I had a chance to write programs - I think he will better than I ever was, before he is 18! Cheers, Gavin First computer I ever laid eyes on was the duplex SAGE computer at Truax Field in Madison. An impressive beast indeed it was. First computer I ever programmed was in the fall of 1962. We submitted our little Fortran programs on coding sheets and gout our output (usually an abend) a few days later. First computer I ever laid hands on was an IBM 1620. First computer I programmed in assembly was a 4000 character IBM 1401 after my app was kiched off the 1620. First computer I ever interfaced was a PDP-8s at Tektronix, about 1969. First computer I designed was a 6800 based comms processor. I designed and programmed its hardware development system as well. And that wasn't the end of it. -- Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX c...@omen.com www.omen.com Developer of Industrial ZMODEM(Tm) for Embedded Applications Omen Technology Inc The High Reliability Software 10255 NW Old Cornelius Pass Portland OR 97231 503-614-0430 -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Fedora 20 updates-testing report
The following Fedora 20 Security updates need testing: Age URL 8 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-17171/hplip-3.13.9-2.fc20 6 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-17338/seamonkey-2.21-1.fc20 4 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-17398/xpdf-3.03-8.fc20 4 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-17413/ReviewBoard-1.7.14-1.fc20,python-djblets-0.7.18-1.fc20 3 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-17506/libvirt-1.1.2-3.fc20 1 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-17627/wireshark-1.10.2-7.fc20 1 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-17603/rubygems-2.0.10-106.fc20 0 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-17828/davfs2-1.4.7-3.fc20 0 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-17681/anaconda-20.20-1.fc20 0 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-17723/xen-4.3.0-6.fc20 The following Fedora 20 Critical Path updates have yet to be approved: Age URL 10 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-16949/langtable-0.0.15-1.fc20 9 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-17086/btrfs-progs-0.20.rc1.20130917git194aa4a-1.fc20 9 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-17082/perl-parent-0.228-1.fc20 8 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-17159/libproxy-0.4.11-7.fc20 7 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-17244/thunderbird-24.0-2.fc20 4 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-17410/rygel-0.19.7-1.fc20 3 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-17442/keyutils-1.5.6-2.fc20 3 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-17496/libselinux-2.1.13-19.fc20 3 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-17486/rootfiles-8.1-14.fc20 1 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-17672/cronie-1.4.11-4.fc20 1 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-17639/policycoreutils-2.1.14-81.fc20 0 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-17784/gnome-online-accounts-3.10.0-2.fc20 0 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-17801/util-linux-2.24-0.1.fc20 0 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-17852/sysvinit-2.88-14.dsf.fc20 0 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-17849/dhcp-4.2.5-23.fc20 0 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-17701/sqlite-3.8.0.2-4.fc20,thunderbird-17.0.9-1.fc20 0 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-17767/openssh-6.2p2-8.fc20 0 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-17700/libquvi-scripts-0.9.20130903-1.fc20 0 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-17722/selinux-policy-3.12.1-83.fc20 0 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-17694/kdelibs-4.11.1-4.fc20 0 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-17752/lorax-20.2-1.fc20 0 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-17681/anaconda-20.20-1.fc20 0 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-17505/libsemanage-2.1.10-12.fc20 The following builds have been pushed to Fedora 20 updates-testing InsightToolkit-4.4.2-1.fc20 cherrytree-0.30.5-1.fc20 cinnamon-1.9.2-0.27.git8a53cfb.fc20 davfs2-1.4.7-3.fc20 dhcp-4.2.5-23.fc20 euca2ools-2.1.4-1.fc20 glusterfs-3.4.1-1.fc20 gnome-online-accounts-3.10.0-2.fc20 h5py-2.2.0-1.fc20 imapsync-1.567-1.fc20 kexec-tools-2.0.4-10.fc20 libsemanage-2.1.10-12.fc20 lightning-2.0.1-2.fc20 lshw-B.02.17-1.fc20 maildrop-2.6.0-4.fc20 mingw-atk-2.10.0-1.fc20 mingw-glib2-2.38.0-1.fc20 mingw-gtk2-2.24.21-1.fc20 mingw-gtk3-3.10.0-1.fc20 mingw-pango-1.36.0-1.fc20 mozc-1.11.1522.102-2.fc20 nemo-1.8.6-0.8.git60e40aa.fc20 openscad-2013.06-5.fc20 perl-Future-0.18-1.fc20 perl-Path-Tiny-0.037-1.fc20 plexus-digest-1.1-14.fc20 python-ansi2html-0.10.0-1.fc20 python-boto-2.13.3-1.fc20 python-celery-3.0.19-4.fc20 python-jsonpointer-1.0-2.fc20 python-ropemode-0.2-1.fc20 qpid-cpp-0.24-4.fc20.1 qupzilla-1.4.4-1.fc20 rubygem-locale-2.0.9-1.fc20 rubygem-marc-0.7.1-1.fc20 rubygem-mixlib-config-2.0.0-1.fc20 rubygem-rspec-expectations-2.14.3-1.fc20 soundconverter-2.1.1-4.fc20 sparkleshare-1.1.0-3.fc20 ssmtp-2.64-10.fc20 sysvinit-2.88-14.dsf.fc20 tuxcmd-0.6.70-12.fc20 util-linux-2.24-0.1.fc20 znc-1.2-0.3.beta1.fc20 Details about builds: InsightToolkit-4.4.2-1.fc20 (FEDORA-2013-17823) Insight Toolkit library for medical image processing Update Information: Updated to version 4.4.2 ChangeLog: * Sun Sep 8 2013 Sebastian
Fedora 18 updates-testing report
The following Fedora 18 Security updates need testing: Age URL 160 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-6117/eucalyptus-3.2.2-1.fc18 72 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-13131/livecd-tools-18.17-1.fc18 56 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-14005/zabbix-2.0.6-3.fc18 43 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-14794/filezilla-3.7.3-1.fc18 9 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-17016/icedtea-web-1.4.1-0.fc18 8 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-17112/hplip-3.13.9-2.fc18 7 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-17195/spice-gtk-0.18-3.fc18 6 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-17305/libvirt-0.10.2.8-1.fc18 5 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-17366/seamonkey-2.21-1.fc18 5 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-17375/xpdf-3.03-8.fc18 4 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-17431/thunderbird-17.0.9-1.fc18 3 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-17583/rtkit-0.11-7.fc18 3 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-17443/ReviewBoard-1.7.14-1.fc18,python-djblets-0.7.18-1.fc18 1 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-17635/wireshark-1.10.2-4.fc18 1 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-17649/rubygems-1.8.25-8.fc18 0 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-17853/davfs2-1.4.7-3.fc18 0 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-17689/xen-4.2.3-2.fc18 The following Fedora 18 Critical Path updates have yet to be approved: Age URL 230 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-2192/nautilus-3.6.3-5.fc18 13 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-16676/gnome-abrt-0.3.1-1.fc18,abrt-2.1.7-1.fc18,libreport-2.1.7-1.fc18,satyr-0.9-1.fc18 11 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-16816/gdisk-0.8.7-2.fc18 9 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-17013/device-mapper-persistent-data-0.2.7-1.fc18 5 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-17371/ibus-1.5.4-1.fc18 4 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-17431/thunderbird-17.0.9-1.fc18 3 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-17583/rtkit-0.11-7.fc18 0 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-17758/selinux-policy-3.11.1-105.fc18 The following builds have been pushed to Fedora 18 updates-testing cherrytree-0.30.5-1.fc18 cloud-init-0.7.2-7.fc18 davfs2-1.4.7-3.fc18 euca2ools-2.1.4-1.fc18 glusterfs-3.4.1-1.fc18 h5py-2.2.0-1.fc18 imapsync-1.567-1.fc18 lshw-B.02.17-1.fc18 mozc-1.11.1522.102-2.fc18 openscad-2013.06-5.fc18 python-boto-2.13.3-1.fc18 qpid-cpp-0.24-3.fc18.1 qupzilla-1.4.4-1.fc18 rubygem-locale-2.0.9-1.fc18 ssmtp-2.64-10.fc18 system-config-kdump-2.0.13-1.fc18 znc-1.2-0.3.beta1.fc18 Details about builds: cherrytree-0.30.5-1.fc18 (FEDORA-2013-17846) Hierarchical note taking application Update Information: New upstream release, license changed to GPLv3+ ChangeLog: * Fri Sep 27 2013 Robin Lee cheese...@fedoraproject.org - 0.30.5-1 - Update to 0.30.5, license changed to GPLv3+ - Requires python-enchant * Sat Aug 3 2013 Fedora Release Engineering rel-...@lists.fedoraproject.org - 0.29.4-2 - Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_20_Mass_Rebuild References: [ 1 ] Bug #1000468 - cherrytree-0.30.5 is available https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1000468 cloud-init-0.7.2-7.fc18 (FEDORA-2013-17824) Cloud instance init scripts Update Information: This update fixes several bugs and enables the following modules: * growpart * migrator * package-update-upgrade-install * yum-add-repo ChangeLog: * Tue Sep 24 2013 Garrett Holmstrom gho...@fedoraproject.org - 0.7.2-7 - Dropped xfsprogs dependency [RH:974329] * Tue Sep 24 2013 Garrett Holmstrom gho...@fedoraproject.org - 0.7.2-6 - Added yum-add-repo module * Fri Sep 20 2013 Garrett Holmstrom gho...@fedoraproject.org - 0.7.2-5 - Fixed puppet agent service name [RH:1008250] - Let systemd handle console output [RH:977952 LP:1228434] - Fixed restorecon failure when selinux is disabled [RH:967002 LP:1228441] - Fixed rsyslog log filtering - Added missing modules
Fedora 19 updates-testing report
The following Fedora 19 Security updates need testing: Age URL 56 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-14029/zabbix-2.0.6-3.fc19 43 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-14814/python-glanceclient-0.9.0-3.fc19 8 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-17121/vino-3.8.1-3.fc19 5 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-17373/seamonkey-2.21-1.fc19 4 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-17397/xpdf-3.03-8.fc19 3 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-17449/ReviewBoard-1.7.14-1.fc19,python-djblets-0.7.18-1.fc19 1 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-17618/libvirt-1.0.5.6-2.fc19 1 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-17662/rubygems-2.0.10-106.fc19 0 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-17836/davfs2-1.4.7-3.fc19 0 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-17704/xen-4.2.3-2.fc19 The following Fedora 19 Critical Path updates have yet to be approved: Age URL 30 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-15459/kbd-1.15.5-7.fc19 10 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-16926/langtable-0.0.14-1.fc19 9 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-17035/device-mapper-persistent-data-0.2.7-1.fc19 9 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-16994/langtable-0.0.15-1.fc19 7 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-17184/libproxy-0.4.11-6.fc19 1 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-17650/tigervnc-1.3.0-7.fc19 0 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-17856/yum-utils-1.1.31-18.fc19 0 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-17817/python-urlgrabber-3.9.1-32.fc19 0 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-17804/cronie-1.4.10-7.fc19 0 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-17498/sqlite-3.8.0.2-4.fc19,thunderbird-17.0.9-1.fc19 The following builds have been pushed to Fedora 19 updates-testing cherrytree-0.30.5-1.fc19 cinnamon-1.9.2-0.27.git8a53cfb.fc19 cronie-1.4.10-7.fc19 davfs2-1.4.7-3.fc19 dhcp-4.2.5-23.fc19 euca2ools-2.1.4-1.fc19 glusterfs-3.4.1-1.fc19 h5py-2.2.0-1.fc19 imapsync-1.567-1.fc19 java-1.7.0-openjdk-1.7.0.60-2.4.2.5.fc19 kexec-tools-2.0.4-10.fc19 lshw-B.02.17-1.fc19 mingw-gstreamer1-1.0.10-1.fc19 mingw-gtk2-2.24.21-1.fc19 mingw-gtkhtml3-4.6.6-1.fc19 mozc-1.11.1522.102-2.fc19 nemo-1.8.6-0.8.git60e40aa.fc19 openscad-2013.06-5.fc19 perl-Future-0.18-1.fc19 python-ansi2html-0.10.0-1.fc19 python-boto-2.13.3-1.fc19 python-jsonpointer-1.0-2.fc19 python-urlgrabber-3.9.1-32.fc19 qpid-cpp-0.24-3.fc19.1 qupzilla-1.4.4-1.fc19 rubygem-locale-2.0.9-1.fc19 rubygem-marc-0.7.1-1.fc19 sqlite-3.8.0.2-4.fc19 ssmtp-2.64-10.fc19 system-config-kdump-2.0.13-1.fc19 thunderbird-17.0.9-1.fc19 yum-utils-1.1.31-18.fc19 znc-1.2-0.3.beta1.fc19 Details about builds: cherrytree-0.30.5-1.fc19 (FEDORA-2013-17829) Hierarchical note taking application Update Information: New upstream release, license changed to GPLv3+ ChangeLog: * Fri Sep 27 2013 Robin Lee cheese...@fedoraproject.org - 0.30.5-1 - Update to 0.30.5, license changed to GPLv3+ - Requires python-enchant * Sat Aug 3 2013 Fedora Release Engineering rel-...@lists.fedoraproject.org - 0.29.4-2 - Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_20_Mass_Rebuild cinnamon-1.9.2-0.27.git8a53cfb.fc19 (FEDORA-2013-17835) Window management and application launching for GNOME Update Information: - Re-add bluetooth support ChangeLog: * Tue Sep 24 2013 Leigh Scott leigh123li...@googlemail.com - 1.9.2-0.27.git8a53cfb - use the right conditional (too much beer) * Tue Sep 24 2013 Leigh Scott leigh123li...@googlemail.com - 1.9.2-0.26.git8a53cfb - re-add bluetooth support for F19 * Tue Sep 24 2013 Leigh Scott leigh123li...@googlemail.com - 1.9.2-0.25.git8a53cfb - Remove ExcludeArch for ARM - remove the python-pexpect requires for ARM cronie-1.4.10-7.fc19 (FEDORA-2013-17804) Cron daemon for executing programs at set times
maintaining minimal
I'm not having any luck figuring out how Yum can be limited to installing only hard dependencies when any given package is installed, avoiding nice to have things that take time to install and update that I'll never use. If this is covered in the yum.conf man page I missed it. In zypper's zypp.conf this is done via InstallRecommends = no. In Mageia, --no-suggests is used with urpmi. How is it handled in Fedora? -- The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive. Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: maintaining minimal
On 9/27/2013 6:27 PM, Felix Miata wrote: I'm not having any luck figuring out how Yum can be limited to installing only hard dependencies when any given package is installed, avoiding nice to have things that take time to install and update that I'll never use. If this is covered in the yum.conf man page I missed it. In zypper's zypp.conf this is done via InstallRecommends = no. In Mageia, --no-suggests is used with urpmi. How is it handled in Fedora? In Fedora, there are only hard dependencies - no suggests. -- Orion Poplawski Technical Manager 303-415-9701 x222 NWRA, Boulder/CoRA Office FAX: 303-415-9702 3380 Mitchell Lane or...@nwra.com Boulder, CO 80301 http://www.nwra.com -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: A different way of installing Fedora
I agree. I find these digressions interesting and informative. Sent from Samsung Mobile Original message From: Clyde E. Kunkel clydekunkel7...@verizon.net Date: 09-27-2013 12:18 PM (GMT-06:00) To: For testing and quality assurance of Fedora releases test@lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: Re: A different way of installing Fedora On 09/27/2013 01:05 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Fri, 2013-09-27 at 22:06 +1200, Gavin Flower wrote: snip I do find the 'who's been using computers longer?' competitions that seem to be ensuing on all sorts of lists lately a bit tiresome :) Why tiresome? It is a bit interesting. Way better than some of the vitriol showing up on the lists. I remember programming a RemRand steel drum memory computer using a teletype and punched paper tape. I also remember seeing a U-2 in use running a single application (civilian payroll) at a Navy facility. None used Fedora. -- Regards, OldFart -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test-- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: A different way of installing Fedora
On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 08:49:51PM -0500, dkrawchuk wrote: I agree. I find these digressions interesting and informative. They _really do_ keep coming up. What if we create a Fedora Old-Timers list for this kind of discussion? I'm not even kidding -- I'll join. -- Matthew Miller ☁☁☁ Fedora Cloud Architect ☁☁☁ mat...@fedoraproject.org -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: A different way of installing Fedora
On 28/09/13 13:53, Matthew Miller wrote: On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 08:49:51PM -0500, dkrawchuk wrote: I agree. I find these digressions interesting and informative. They _really do_ keep coming up. What if we create a Fedora Old-Timers list for this kind of discussion? I'm not even kidding -- I'll join. Possible there should be a minimum age limit, say 60? :-) Hotshot teenage developers may think anyone over 30 should post there!!! I am now sure that there are older people than me on this list, and I'm also sure that there are people in their 20's that are far more technically capable than I ever was - I was pretty sure of the latter, even before I made my first post here. Even ignoring the problems of implementing an age barrier, I think that even some of the younger ones may be interested. Cheers, Gavin -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
