RE: F21-beta issues with NetworkManager and tunX

2014-11-22 Thread Adrian -

Adam Williamson writes:
> If you can pinpoint a fairly straightforward 'install, do X, and weird
> thing Y happens' flow, I'd file a bug - probably against NetworkManager
> indeed - with the instructions to reproduce. Thanks!

I did a reinstall. And yes, NetworkManager attempts
to manage the tun0 device created by OpenVPN.

Here are my steps:
- boot boot.iso
- do absolute minimal install
- login as root
- yum install dnf
- dnf install openvpn
- nmcli the primary ethernet into a static configuration

Here I encounter a weirdness, NetworkManager does
not setup a default route. I manually add a default route,
at which point another default route is immediately
created with extra parameters "proto static metric 1024".

So I delete the route I created, leaving the new one.

Setup my openvpn, which creates a tun0 device and
adds 0/1 and 128/1 routes by itself. However, a ip route
reveals that the 0/1 route is missing. nmcli d status
reports that tun0 is managed.

Manually adding the 0/1 route does not stick.

I close openvpn, and the tunnel. nmcli c show shows
a new connection uuid for that tun0 connection.

I nmcli c delete that connection. I nmcli n off, and thenĀ 
modify NetworkManager.conf adding no-auto-default=*
and ignore-carrier=* and repeat. Same issue happens.

I modify NetworkManager to add keyfile to the plugins,
and a [keyfile] entry specifying tun0 as an unmanaged
interface. This now gets me to the point where
NetworkManager leaves tun0 alone (something I didn't
have to do in F20) and my OpenVPN tunnel works.

There in an issue that the reinstall process revealed.
Note now, I am no longer removing ifcfg-enpXs0 and
doing everything via nmcli, as opposed to before
where I only used NetworkManager with the keyfile
plugin and had my setup totally in system-connections.
As I mentioned above, I no longer have a default route
being set up. I don't know why. A full install to the
gnome desktop reveals that when I login, absolutely
no network icon appears in the top right, but when
I add my default route (as mentioned above) a new
default route is created with the exact same route
and "proto static metric 1024" and immediately I see
the network icon appear in the top right of my desktop.

I have yet to migrate my the nmcli modified ifcfg-enpXs0
setup to my old keyfile-only setup, to see if that
still causes issues with the default route, but at this
point things are working, it's just that as I said, the
takeaway is:

NetworkManager in F21 tries to manage tunX devices,
unless explicitly told not to, unlike F20.


  
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Re: Error: fedora-release-cloud conflicts with fedora-release-nonproduct-21-0.16.noarch

2014-11-22 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sat, 2014-11-22 at 21:35 +0100, poma wrote:

> It seems to me that you are the only one who understands what is written 
> here. :)

It seems to me that you can't possibly know that.
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Re: Error: fedora-release-cloud conflicts with fedora-release-nonproduct-21-0.16.noarch

2014-11-22 Thread poma
On 22.11.2014 20:43, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Sat, 2014-11-22 at 20:19 +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote:
>> On Sat, 22 Nov 2014 08:45:51 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
>>
  I wonder whether an upgrade path from Fedora 20
 could have been from fedora-release < 21 to a non-product release via a
 single well-defined Obsoletes instead of an arbitrary one? Why not 
 discontinue
 the old fedora-release package in favour of introducing new $product
 specific release packages?
>>>
>>> Well, then you'd just have to duplicate a bunch of stuff between all the
>>> product-specific packages, and it still doesn't solve this problem,
>>> because anything that previously depended on fedora-release would now
>>> have to depend on a virtual provide provided by any of the
>>> fedora-release-(product) packages, which is...exactly what you're
>>> complaining about. No?
>>
>> No.
>>
>> There would be only a single package that _replaces_ the fedora-release
>> package via Obsoletes. Under the assumption that the given installation
>> to be upgraded could be _anything_, sort of an unknown product or a
>> non-product.
>>
>> You cannot upgrade that installation into a well-defined "product". You
>> would need to remove anything that's not part of the new product, and if
>> you don't do that, the upgrade bears the risk of running into conflicts
>> (prompting the user or letting the depsolver try to be clever and likely
>> need into fatal problems).
> 
> If we wanted to do that we could have done it with the current design -
> have fedora-release-nonproduct be the only package that obsoletes the
> older fedora-release. Presumably it wasn't desired.
> 
> The definition of a Product is not, at present, 'has these and only
> exactly these packages installed', it's more 'has at least these
> packages installed'. It's all still being figured out, but it was
> considered reasonable to let people mark upgrading systems as a given
> product. Though yes, there are obviously problems here, like if you
> upgrade a system and mark it as 'Server' it won't necessarily get
> rolekit as that's in the comps group not a dependency of the -release
> package.
> 
  Yum as upgrade method may not be supported,
 but why do I get two fedora-release* packages for a fresh install of
 Fedora 21 Beta, too?
>>>
>>> Just sensible package splitting. All the Products are still, to some
>>> extent, Fedora, and share a bunch of common 'release'-y information,
>>> which is contained in fedora-release. The bits of 'release'-y
>>> information that are specific to each Product are in the product
>>> subpackage.
>>
>> Yet one could have _discontinued_ the old fedora-release package and
>> moved its files into a _new_ and _non-conflicting_ *-common package. ;)
> 
> What would have been the advantage? fedora-release doesn't conflict with
> any of the product packages. The product packages conflict with each
> other. I still don't see anywhere this design clearly improves on the
> current one, they seem to be to be effectively identical.
> 
 It also surprises me that the "solution" that has been presented to FPC
 does not try to solve the conflicts at run-time. Why do the packages need
 to conflict?
>>>
>>> AIUI, this is because it was decided we don't want to try and
>>> allow/support having 'multiple products installed'.
>>
>> Do you (or anyone else) know of a prominent place/thread where this
>> design decision has been discussed?
> 
> It was in one of the devel@ threads, I believe. They're long threads.
> 
  Why can't non-conflicting configuration files be installed
 into a foo.d directory with a switch to be toggled in a config file?
>>>
>>> The release stuff isn't just about configuration files, for a start -
>>> some products at least started implementing package dependencies in
>>> their -product subpackage, for instance, though that caused another
>>> problem which I had some fun debugging.
>>
>> Which sounds like the wrong tool has been chosen for the job, *if*
>> explicit (or even implicit) conflicts could not be avoided in the
>> dependencies as opposed to a very few specific -product packages only.
>>
>> That is, fedora-release-product1 conflicting with fedora-release-product2,
>> okay, two packages of the same type or purpose, but
>> firewalld-config-standard conflicting with fedora-release-workstation?
> 
> I'm not sure why it does that either. I'd think the conflict with
> firewalld-config-workstation and firewalld-config-server would be
> sufficient.
> 

It seems to me that you are the only one who understands what is written here. 
:)


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Re: Error: fedora-release-cloud conflicts with fedora-release-nonproduct-21-0.16.noarch

2014-11-22 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sat, 2014-11-22 at 20:19 +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> On Sat, 22 Nov 2014 08:45:51 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
> 
> > >  I wonder whether an upgrade path from Fedora 20
> > > could have been from fedora-release < 21 to a non-product release via a
> > > single well-defined Obsoletes instead of an arbitrary one? Why not 
> > > discontinue
> > > the old fedora-release package in favour of introducing new $product
> > > specific release packages?
> > 
> > Well, then you'd just have to duplicate a bunch of stuff between all the
> > product-specific packages, and it still doesn't solve this problem,
> > because anything that previously depended on fedora-release would now
> > have to depend on a virtual provide provided by any of the
> > fedora-release-(product) packages, which is...exactly what you're
> > complaining about. No?
> 
> No.
> 
> There would be only a single package that _replaces_ the fedora-release
> package via Obsoletes. Under the assumption that the given installation
> to be upgraded could be _anything_, sort of an unknown product or a
> non-product.
> 
> You cannot upgrade that installation into a well-defined "product". You
> would need to remove anything that's not part of the new product, and if
> you don't do that, the upgrade bears the risk of running into conflicts
> (prompting the user or letting the depsolver try to be clever and likely
> need into fatal problems).

If we wanted to do that we could have done it with the current design -
have fedora-release-nonproduct be the only package that obsoletes the
older fedora-release. Presumably it wasn't desired.

The definition of a Product is not, at present, 'has these and only
exactly these packages installed', it's more 'has at least these
packages installed'. It's all still being figured out, but it was
considered reasonable to let people mark upgrading systems as a given
product. Though yes, there are obviously problems here, like if you
upgrade a system and mark it as 'Server' it won't necessarily get
rolekit as that's in the comps group not a dependency of the -release
package.

> > >  Yum as upgrade method may not be supported,
> > > but why do I get two fedora-release* packages for a fresh install of
> > > Fedora 21 Beta, too?
> > 
> > Just sensible package splitting. All the Products are still, to some
> > extent, Fedora, and share a bunch of common 'release'-y information,
> > which is contained in fedora-release. The bits of 'release'-y
> > information that are specific to each Product are in the product
> > subpackage.
> 
> Yet one could have _discontinued_ the old fedora-release package and
> moved its files into a _new_ and _non-conflicting_ *-common package. ;)

What would have been the advantage? fedora-release doesn't conflict with
any of the product packages. The product packages conflict with each
other. I still don't see anywhere this design clearly improves on the
current one, they seem to be to be effectively identical.

> > > It also surprises me that the "solution" that has been presented to FPC
> > > does not try to solve the conflicts at run-time. Why do the packages need
> > > to conflict?
> > 
> > AIUI, this is because it was decided we don't want to try and
> > allow/support having 'multiple products installed'.
> 
> Do you (or anyone else) know of a prominent place/thread where this
> design decision has been discussed?

It was in one of the devel@ threads, I believe. They're long threads.

> > >  Why can't non-conflicting configuration files be installed
> > > into a foo.d directory with a switch to be toggled in a config file?
> > 
> > The release stuff isn't just about configuration files, for a start -
> > some products at least started implementing package dependencies in
> > their -product subpackage, for instance, though that caused another
> > problem which I had some fun debugging.
> 
> Which sounds like the wrong tool has been chosen for the job, *if*
> explicit (or even implicit) conflicts could not be avoided in the
> dependencies as opposed to a very few specific -product packages only.
> 
> That is, fedora-release-product1 conflicting with fedora-release-product2,
> okay, two packages of the same type or purpose, but
> firewalld-config-standard conflicting with fedora-release-workstation?

I'm not sure why it does that either. I'd think the conflict with
firewalld-config-workstation and firewalld-config-server would be
sufficient.
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Re: Error: fedora-release-cloud conflicts with fedora-release-nonproduct-21-0.16.noarch

2014-11-22 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sat, 22 Nov 2014 08:45:51 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:

> >  I wonder whether an upgrade path from Fedora 20
> > could have been from fedora-release < 21 to a non-product release via a
> > single well-defined Obsoletes instead of an arbitrary one? Why not 
> > discontinue
> > the old fedora-release package in favour of introducing new $product
> > specific release packages?
> 
> Well, then you'd just have to duplicate a bunch of stuff between all the
> product-specific packages, and it still doesn't solve this problem,
> because anything that previously depended on fedora-release would now
> have to depend on a virtual provide provided by any of the
> fedora-release-(product) packages, which is...exactly what you're
> complaining about. No?

No.

There would be only a single package that _replaces_ the fedora-release
package via Obsoletes. Under the assumption that the given installation
to be upgraded could be _anything_, sort of an unknown product or a
non-product.

You cannot upgrade that installation into a well-defined "product". You
would need to remove anything that's not part of the new product, and if
you don't do that, the upgrade bears the risk of running into conflicts
(prompting the user or letting the depsolver try to be clever and likely
need into fatal problems).

> >  Yum as upgrade method may not be supported,
> > but why do I get two fedora-release* packages for a fresh install of
> > Fedora 21 Beta, too?
> 
> Just sensible package splitting. All the Products are still, to some
> extent, Fedora, and share a bunch of common 'release'-y information,
> which is contained in fedora-release. The bits of 'release'-y
> information that are specific to each Product are in the product
> subpackage.

Yet one could have _discontinued_ the old fedora-release package and
moved its files into a _new_ and _non-conflicting_ *-common package. ;)

> > It also surprises me that the "solution" that has been presented to FPC
> > does not try to solve the conflicts at run-time. Why do the packages need
> > to conflict?
> 
> AIUI, this is because it was decided we don't want to try and
> allow/support having 'multiple products installed'.

Do you (or anyone else) know of a prominent place/thread where this
design decision has been discussed?

> >  Why can't non-conflicting configuration files be installed
> > into a foo.d directory with a switch to be toggled in a config file?
> 
> The release stuff isn't just about configuration files, for a start -
> some products at least started implementing package dependencies in
> their -product subpackage, for instance, though that caused another
> problem which I had some fun debugging.

Which sounds like the wrong tool has been chosen for the job, *if*
explicit (or even implicit) conflicts could not be avoided in the
dependencies as opposed to a very few specific -product packages only.

That is, fedora-release-product1 conflicting with fedora-release-product2,
okay, two packages of the same type or purpose, but
firewalld-config-standard conflicting with fedora-release-workstation?
Those are troublesome conflicts. It's an attempt at trying to control
what packages can be installed - something that isn't possible anyways
(unless one points the products at a set of product-specific repos).

> > True. I haven't found an explanation why the physical packages must
> > conflict? And as above, why stuff like firewall configuration cannot be
> > handled at the configuration level? Has this even be considered?
> 
> I don't honestly recall the details of what was considered and what
> wasn't, but I'll say this - most of the problems showed up as we went
> along, this is one of those cases where it's really hard to think
> through all the possible consequences in advance. I'd have been happier
> if all this stuff had been in place by Alpha or earlier, and then we
> would have more of a chance to revise/improve/fix it. Right now we're
> pretty much stuck with seat-of-the-pants minimal fixes to the crap
> that's in place. I'm not entirely happy with how the Product stuff was
> handled either, but I don't want to crap on the people who tried their
> best; I just wish it'd all been done earlier and with a more forgiving
> schedule, so we had time to fix the inevitable problems as they
> appeared, or change course on the design if it seemed like we were onto
> a bad one.

Thanks for explaining that, Adam.
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Re: Error: fedora-release-cloud conflicts with fedora-release-nonproduct-21-0.16.noarch

2014-11-22 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sat, 2014-11-22 at 13:01 +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> On Fri, 21 Nov 2014 10:07:32 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
> 
> > Well, you're never supposed to be in a case where you're relying on yum
> > to solve it without any hints, it's not really 'random'.
> 
> Yum is known for pulling in "odd packages" for the case of a dependency
> where "any provider suffices". Originally, it had been "shorted %name
> wins", but even the developers on certain occasions told that it is not as
> simple as that. Dunno what it's like nowadays. It has lead to breakage
> several times, because behaviour changed, and users+packager could not
> rely on a "yum install ..." to pull in a predictable set of packages.
> 
> Anyway, one can read it is being worked on within DNF and/or RPM.

Yes, I know that. What I'm saying is that you should rarely be in the
case where yum is just trying to solve a requirement for
'system-release-product' without any other information. The intent is
that in all the commonly-encountered cases where the dependency is
encountered, the transaction will already include a specific product
package, as I explained in quite a bit of detail in the initial post.

> > On new installs
> > you have to pick an environment group, and every environment group
> > requires a specific product package (custom kickstarts that don't use
> > one of the environment groups or explicitly specify a product package
> > will wind up with the 'default' resolution, but that's a bit of a corner
> > case). For upgrades, fedup requires you to pick one.
> 
> This concept of "switching products" sounds strange with regard to
> Upgrades from Fedora 20 or older. Before, users could install anything
> (not "everything" because of too many conflicts :
>   http://smoogespace.blogspot.de/2011/05/doing-everything-install.html )
> which made the install result in something that does not closely resemble
> one of the new products.

If your install doesn't closely resemble any of the products, then it
seems obvious to choose 'nonproduct' as your 'product' package on
upgrade.

>  I wonder whether an upgrade path from Fedora 20
> could have been from fedora-release < 21 to a non-product release via a
> single well-defined Obsoletes instead of an arbitrary one? Why not discontinue
> the old fedora-release package in favour of introducing new $product
> specific release packages?

Well, then you'd just have to duplicate a bunch of stuff between all the
product-specific packages, and it still doesn't solve this problem,
because anything that previously depended on fedora-release would now
have to depend on a virtual provide provided by any of the
fedora-release-(product) packages, which is...exactly what you're
complaining about. No?

>  Yum as upgrade method may not be supported,
> but why do I get two fedora-release* packages for a fresh install of
> Fedora 21 Beta, too?

Just sensible package splitting. All the Products are still, to some
extent, Fedora, and share a bunch of common 'release'-y information,
which is contained in fedora-release. The bits of 'release'-y
information that are specific to each Product are in the product
subpackage.

> It also surprises me that the "solution" that has been presented to FPC
> does not try to solve the conflicts at run-time. Why do the packages need
> to conflict?

AIUI, this is because it was decided we don't want to try and
allow/support having 'multiple products installed'.

>  Why can't non-conflicting configuration files be installed
> into a foo.d directory with a switch to be toggled in a config file?

The release stuff isn't just about configuration files, for a start -
some products at least started implementing package dependencies in
their -product subpackage, for instance, though that caused another
problem which I had some fun debugging.

> True. I haven't found an explanation why the physical packages must
> conflict? And as above, why stuff like firewall configuration cannot be
> handled at the configuration level? Has this even be considered?

I don't honestly recall the details of what was considered and what
wasn't, but I'll say this - most of the problems showed up as we went
along, this is one of those cases where it's really hard to think
through all the possible consequences in advance. I'd have been happier
if all this stuff had been in place by Alpha or earlier, and then we
would have more of a chance to revise/improve/fix it. Right now we're
pretty much stuck with seat-of-the-pants minimal fixes to the crap
that's in place. I'm not entirely happy with how the Product stuff was
handled either, but I don't want to crap on the people who tried their
best; I just wish it'd all been done earlier and with a more forgiving
schedule, so we had time to fix the inevitable problems as they
appeared, or change course on the design if it seemed like we were onto
a bad one.
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golang-github-vishvananda-netlink-0-0.1.git2187ba6.fc20
golang-github-vishvananda-netns-0-0.1.gite14a2d4.fc20
gr-rds-0-0.4.20141117gitff1ca15.fc20
kde-runtime-4.14.3-2.fc20
libechonest-2.3.0-1.fc20
lucene++-3.0.6-1.fc20
mate-themes-1.9.2-1.fc20
nano-2.3.2-5.fc20
nodejs-filelist-0.0.3-1.fc20
nodejs-json-localizer-0.0.2-1.fc20
openvpn-2.3.2-7.fc20
packagedb-cli-2.6-1.fc20
perl-Data-Munge-0.091-1.fc20
perl-File-ConfigDir-0.014-1.fc20
perl-HTML-Mason-1.56-1.fc20
perl-Net-SMTPS-0.04-1.fc20
perl-Sub-Exporter-ForMethods-0.100051-1.fc20
php-5.5.19-3.fc20
php-psr-http-message-0.5.1-1.fc20
php-symfony-2.5.7-1.fc20
phpMyAdmin-4.2.12-1.fc20
pidgin-2.10.10-3.fc20
privoxy-3.0.22-1.fc20
python-copr-1.54-1.fc20
python-docker-py-0.6.0-1.fc20
python-fedmsg-meta-fedora-infrastructure-0.3.6-1.fc20
qpid-dispatch-0.2-9.fc20
selinux-policy-3.12.1-195.fc20
tcpdump-4.5.1-2.fc20
tomahawk-0.8.2-1.fc20
tzdata-2014j-1.fc20
v4l-utils-1.6.0-2.fc20
vtun-3.0.3-10.fc20
websocketpp-0.4.0-2.fc20
wmx-8-1.fc20
wordpress-4.0.1-1.fc20
xen-4.3.3-5.fc20
xfce4-systemload-plugin-1.1.2-1.fc20
xscreensaver-5.32-1.fc20

Details about builds:



 ampr-ripd-1.13-1.fc20 (FEDORA-2014-15551)
 Routing daemon for the ampr network

Update Information:

This is new version

Fedora 19 updates-testing report

2014-11-22 Thread updates
The following Fedora 19 Security updates need testing:
 Age  URL
 392  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-19963/openstack-glance-2013.1.4-1.fc19
 204  https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-5896/nrpe-2.15-2.fc19
 155  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-7496/readline-6.2-8.fc19
  72  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-10640/libreoffice-4.1.6.2-8.fc19
  50  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-12057/krb5-1.11.3-29.fc19
  36  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-13018/deluge-1.3.10-1.fc19
  26  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-13551/wpa_supplicant-2.0-12.fc19
  17  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-14237/claws-mail-plugins-3.11.1-1.fc19,claws-mail-3.11.1-2.fc19,libetpan-1.6-1.fc19
  15  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-14359/curl-7.29.0-25.fc19
  10  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-14738/gnutls-3.1.20-6.fc19
   8  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-12407/sddm-0.10.0-2.fc19
   7  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-15079/mantis-1.2.17-4.fc19
   7  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-14874/arm-none-eabi-binutils-cs-2014.05.28-3.fc19
   7  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-14838/avr-binutils-2.24-3.fc19
   7  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-15124/kwebkitpart-1.3.4-5.fc19
   5  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-15202/kernel-3.14.24-100.fc19
   4  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-15248/kde-runtime-4.11.5-3.fc19
   4  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-15307/python-django14-1.4.16-1.fc19
   2  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-15373/lsyncd-2.1.4-4.fc19.1
   2  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-15378/rubygem-actionpack-3.2.13-7.fc19
   2  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-15390/nodejs-0.10.33-1.fc19,libuv-0.10.29-1.fc19
   2  https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-15405/wget-1.16-3.fc19
   1  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-15466/rubygem-sprockets-2.8.2-4.fc19
   1  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-15477/python-eyed3-0.7.4-4.fc19
   1  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-15463/clamav-0.98.5-1.fc19
   0  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-15526/wordpress-4.0.1-1.fc19
   0  https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-15503/xen-4.2.5-5.fc19
   0  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-15549/tcpdump-4.4.0-4.fc19
   0  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-15515/drupal6-6.34-1.fc19
   0  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-15522/drupal7-7.34-1.fc19
   0  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-15535/phpMyAdmin-4.2.12-1.fc19


The following Fedora 19 Critical Path updates have yet to be approved:
 Age URL
 340  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-22326/fedora-bookmarks-15-5.fc19
 266  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-3245/testdisk-6.14-2.fc19.1,ntfs-3g-2014.2.15-1.fc19
  12  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-14516/pcre-8.32-11.fc19
  12  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-14505/unzip-6.0-12.fc19
  10  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-14738/gnutls-3.1.20-6.fc19
   8  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-15032/man-db-2.6.3-9.fc19
   8  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-15027/evolution-data-server-3.8.5-7.fc19
   8  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-14807/device-mapper-persistent-data-0.4.1-2.fc19
   8  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-14846/pciutils-3.3.0-1.fc19
   5  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-15202/kernel-3.14.24-100.fc19
   2  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-15392/kde-workspace-4.11.14-2.fc19
   2  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-15377/gvfs-1.16.4-3.fc19
   0  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-15506/ca-certificates-2014.2.1-1.5.fc19


The following builds have been pushed to Fedora 19 updates-testing

amanda-3.3.3-7.fc19
ca-certificates-2014.2.1-1.5.fc19
drupal6-6.34-1.fc19
drupal7-7.34-1.fc19
edg-mkgridmap-4.0.0-8.fc19
mate-themes-1.9.2-1.fc19
packagedb-cli-2.6-1.fc19
perl-HTML-Mason-1.56-1.fc19
perl-Sub-Exporter-ForMethods-0.100051-1.fc19
php-5.5.19-3.fc19
phpMyAdmin-4.2.12-1.fc19
privoxy-3.0.22-1.fc19
python-copr-1.54-1.fc19
python-fedmsg-meta-fedora-infrastructure-0.3.6-1.fc19
qpid-dispatch-0.2-9.fc19
tcpdump-4.4.0-4.fc19
tzdata-2014j-1.fc19
wordpress-4.0.1-1.fc19
xen-4.2.5-5.fc19

Details about builds:



 amanda-3.3.3-7.fc19 (FEDORA-2014-15498)
 A network-capable tape backup soluti

Re: Error: fedora-release-cloud conflicts with fedora-release-nonproduct-21-0.16.noarch

2014-11-22 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Fri, 21 Nov 2014 10:07:32 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:

> Well, you're never supposed to be in a case where you're relying on yum
> to solve it without any hints, it's not really 'random'.

Yum is known for pulling in "odd packages" for the case of a dependency
where "any provider suffices". Originally, it had been "shorted %name
wins", but even the developers on certain occasions told that it is not as
simple as that. Dunno what it's like nowadays. It has lead to breakage
several times, because behaviour changed, and users+packager could not
rely on a "yum install ..." to pull in a predictable set of packages.

Anyway, one can read it is being worked on within DNF and/or RPM.

> On new installs
> you have to pick an environment group, and every environment group
> requires a specific product package (custom kickstarts that don't use
> one of the environment groups or explicitly specify a product package
> will wind up with the 'default' resolution, but that's a bit of a corner
> case). For upgrades, fedup requires you to pick one.

This concept of "switching products" sounds strange with regard to
Upgrades from Fedora 20 or older. Before, users could install anything
(not "everything" because of too many conflicts :
  http://smoogespace.blogspot.de/2011/05/doing-everything-install.html )
which made the install result in something that does not closely resemble
one of the new products. I wonder whether an upgrade path from Fedora 20
could have been from fedora-release < 21 to a non-product release via a
single well-defined Obsoletes instead of an arbitrary one? Why not discontinue
the old fedora-release package in favour of introducing new $product
specific release packages? Yum as upgrade method may not be supported,
but why do I get two fedora-release* packages for a fresh install of
Fedora 21 Beta, too?

Sure, it's too late now. It just surprises me what has been come up with:
https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/446

   | Both yum and DNF have issues with handling Conflicts: at the 
   | appropriate phase of dependency-checking. As a result, we need [...]

which adds lots of explicit Conflicts, which are hard to handle.
Adding more Conflicts is like "admitting defeat".

https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/92

   | Error: generic-release conflicts with fedora-release-14-1.noarch
   |
   | Proposal to relax Conflicts is rejected. 

It also surprises me that the "solution" that has been presented to FPC
does not try to solve the conflicts at run-time. Why do the packages need
to conflict? Why can't non-conflicting configuration files be installed
into a foo.d directory with a switch to be toggled in a config file?

> It's all very well to point at the problems and say it's bad, but no-one
> came up with anything *better*. All the work on this Product stuff was
> done in public, on devel@ and in bug reports and FESCo tickets and so
> on. The people who did the work did the best they could; there are
> various places where the result has issues, but it's a hard thing to do.

Hard to comment on. I may have noticed threads such as
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2014-July/200972.html
but missed the step where/when something was considered the way to go.

> It's easy to just say it "should have been avoided", but it doesn't
> really help anyone. If you have a concrete suggestion as to how to
> implement the Product design without this problem, *that* would help (of
> course, it would've helped more six months ago, when all this stuff
> should really have been worked out).

True. I haven't found an explanation why the physical packages must
conflict? And as above, why stuff like firewall configuration cannot be
handled at the configuration level? Has this even be considered?
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F-21 Branched report: 20141122 changes

2014-11-22 Thread Fedora Branched Report
Compose started at Sat Nov 22 07:15:03 UTC 2014
Broken deps for armhfp
--
[avro]
avro-mapred-1.7.5-9.fc21.noarch requires hadoop-mapreduce
avro-mapred-1.7.5-9.fc21.noarch requires hadoop-client
[gearbox]
gearbox-10.11-8.fc21.armv7hl requires libIceUtil.so.35
gearbox-10.11-8.fc21.armv7hl requires ice
gearbox-devel-10.11-8.fc21.armv7hl requires ice-devel
[gofer]
ruby-gofer-0.77.1-2.fc21.noarch requires rubygem(qpid) >= 0:0.16.0
[openstack-nova]
openstack-nova-compute-2014.1.2-1.fc21.noarch requires 
libvirt-daemon-xen
[ostree]
ostree-grub2-2014.11-1.fc21.armv7hl requires grub2
[spring-maps-default]
spring-maps-default-0.1-12.fc21.noarch requires spring
[syntastic]
syntastic-d-3.5.0-1.fc21.noarch requires ldc



Broken deps for i386
--
[gearbox]
gearbox-10.11-8.fc21.i686 requires libIceUtil.so.35
gearbox-10.11-8.fc21.i686 requires ice
gearbox-devel-10.11-8.fc21.i686 requires ice-devel
[gofer]
ruby-gofer-0.77.1-2.fc21.noarch requires rubygem(qpid) >= 0:0.16.0



Broken deps for x86_64
--
[gearbox]
gearbox-10.11-8.fc21.i686 requires libIceUtil.so.35
gearbox-10.11-8.fc21.i686 requires ice
gearbox-10.11-8.fc21.x86_64 requires libIceUtil.so.35()(64bit)
gearbox-10.11-8.fc21.x86_64 requires ice
gearbox-devel-10.11-8.fc21.i686 requires ice-devel
gearbox-devel-10.11-8.fc21.x86_64 requires ice-devel
[gofer]
ruby-gofer-0.77.1-2.fc21.noarch requires rubygem(qpid) >= 0:0.16.0




Updated Packages:

fedora-logos-21.0.5-1.fc21
--
* Wed Nov 19 2014 Tom Callaway  - 21.0.5-1
- add fedora logo for background overlay
- move anaconda logo files into hicolor (drop old "Fedora" dir)
- add anaconda theme art for "no product", workstation, server, cloud


Size change: 1296738 bytes

fedora-release-21-1
---
* Tue Nov 18 2014 Dennis Gilmore  - 21-1
- drop Require on system-release-product rhbz#1156198
- prep for f21 GA


Size change: 155 bytes

fedora-repos-21-1
-
* Tue Nov 18 2014 Dennis Gilmore  21-1
- drop no longer needed fedora-repos-anaconda sup-package
- disable updates-testing
- turn on 7 day metadata expire for the fedora repo


Size change: -32 bytes

pulseaudio-5.0-25.fc21
--
* Fri Nov 14 2014 Rex Dieter  5.0-25
- pull in wtay bluez5/HSP fixes on top of stock pa-5.0 (#1045548)

* Fri Nov 14 2014 Rex Dieter  5.0-11
- %pre: redo pulse-rt group fix


Size change: 34068 bytes

seahorse-3.14.0-3.fc21
--
* Thu Nov 20 2014 Kalev Lember  - 3.14.0-3
- Fix SSH key generation (#1163660)


Size change: 2548 bytes

virt-manager-1.1.0-4.git310f6527.fc21
-
* Sun Nov 16 2014 Cole Robinson  - 1.1.0-4.git310f6527
- Fix crash when rebooting VMs after install (bz #1135546)
- Fix dep on libosinfo (bz #1159370)
- Fix PCI/USB hotplug (bz #1146297)


Size change: 2673 bytes


Summary:
Added Packages: 0
Removed Packages: 0
Modified Packages: 6
Size of added packages: 0 (0 )
Size change of modified packages: 1336150 (1.3 M)
Size of removed packages: 0 (0 )
Size change: 1336150 (1.3 M)
Compose finished at Sat Nov 22 11:35:54 UTC 2014

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rawhide report: 20141122 changes

2014-11-22 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
Compose started at Sat Nov 22 05:15:03 UTC 2014
Broken deps for i386
--
[3Depict]
3Depict-0.0.16-3.fc22.i686 requires libmgl.so.7.2.0
[Sprog]
Sprog-0.14-27.fc20.noarch requires perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.18.0)
[cab]
cab-0.1.9-12.fc22.i686 requires cabal-dev
[condor]
condor-plumage-8.1.4-7.a1a7df5.fc22.i686 requires libmongoclient.so
[dnssec-check]
dnssec-check-1.14.0.1-4.fc20.i686 requires libval-threads.so.14
dnssec-check-1.14.0.1-4.fc20.i686 requires libsres.so.14
[glances]
glances-2.1.2-2.fc22.noarch requires python-psutil >= 0:2.0.0
[nwchem]
nwchem-openmpi-6.3.2-11.fc21.i686 requires libmpi_usempi.so.1
[python-selenium]
python3-selenium-2.43.0-1.fc22.noarch requires python3-rdflib
[shogun]
shogun-doc-3.2.0.1-0.27.git20140804.96f3cf3.fc22.noarch requires 
shogun-data = 0:0.8.1-0.18.git20140804.48a1abb.fc22
[uwsgi]
uwsgi-plugin-gridfs-2.0.7-2.fc22.i686 requires libmongoclient.so
uwsgi-stats-pusher-mongodb-2.0.7-2.fc22.i686 requires libmongoclient.so
[vfrnav]
vfrnav-20140510-2.fc22.i686 requires libpolyclipping.so.16
vfrnav-utils-20140510-2.fc22.i686 requires libpolyclipping.so.16



Broken deps for x86_64
--
[3Depict]
3Depict-0.0.16-3.fc22.x86_64 requires libmgl.so.7.2.0()(64bit)
[Sprog]
Sprog-0.14-27.fc20.noarch requires perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.18.0)
[cab]
cab-0.1.9-12.fc22.x86_64 requires cabal-dev
[condor]
condor-plumage-8.1.4-7.a1a7df5.fc22.x86_64 requires 
libmongoclient.so()(64bit)
[dnssec-check]
dnssec-check-1.14.0.1-4.fc20.x86_64 requires 
libval-threads.so.14()(64bit)
dnssec-check-1.14.0.1-4.fc20.x86_64 requires libsres.so.14()(64bit)
[glances]
glances-2.1.2-2.fc22.noarch requires python-psutil >= 0:2.0.0
[nwchem]
nwchem-openmpi-6.3.2-11.fc21.x86_64 requires libmpi_usempi.so.1()(64bit)
[python-selenium]
python3-selenium-2.43.0-1.fc22.noarch requires python3-rdflib
[shogun]
shogun-doc-3.2.0.1-0.27.git20140804.96f3cf3.fc22.noarch requires 
shogun-data = 0:0.8.1-0.18.git20140804.48a1abb.fc22
[uwsgi]
uwsgi-plugin-gridfs-2.0.7-2.fc22.x86_64 requires 
libmongoclient.so()(64bit)
uwsgi-stats-pusher-mongodb-2.0.7-2.fc22.x86_64 requires 
libmongoclient.so()(64bit)
[vfrnav]
vfrnav-20140510-2.fc22.i686 requires libpolyclipping.so.16
vfrnav-20140510-2.fc22.x86_64 requires libpolyclipping.so.16()(64bit)
vfrnav-utils-20140510-2.fc22.x86_64 requires 
libpolyclipping.so.16()(64bit)



Broken deps for armhfp
--
[3Depict]
3Depict-0.0.16-3.fc22.armv7hl requires libmgl.so.7.2.0
[Sprog]
Sprog-0.14-27.fc20.noarch requires perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.18.0)
[avro]
avro-mapred-1.7.5-9.fc22.noarch requires hadoop-mapreduce
avro-mapred-1.7.5-9.fc22.noarch requires hadoop-client
[cab]
cab-0.1.9-12.fc22.armv7hl requires cabal-dev
[calamares]
calamares-0-0.16.20141119git01c3244396f35.fc22.armv7hl requires grub2
[condor]
condor-plumage-8.1.4-7.a1a7df5.fc22.armv7hl requires libmongoclient.so
[dnssec-check]
dnssec-check-1.14.0.1-4.fc20.armv7hl requires libval-threads.so.14
dnssec-check-1.14.0.1-4.fc20.armv7hl requires libsres.so.14
[glances]
glances-2.1.2-2.fc22.noarch requires python-psutil >= 0:2.0.0
[ostree]
ostree-grub2-2014.11-1.fc22.armv7hl requires grub2
[python-selenium]
python3-selenium-2.43.0-1.fc22.noarch requires python3-rdflib
[scirenderer]
scirenderer-1.1.0-4.fc22.noarch requires jogl2
[shogun]
shogun-doc-3.2.0.1-0.27.git20140804.96f3cf3.fc22.noarch requires 
shogun-data = 0:0.8.1-0.18.git20140804.48a1abb.fc22
[spring-maps-default]
spring-maps-default-0.1-12.fc21.noarch requires spring
[syntastic]
syntastic-d-3.5.0-1.fc22.noarch requires ldc
[uwsgi]
uwsgi-plugin-gridfs-2.0.7-2.fc22.armv7hl requires libmongoclient.so
uwsgi-stats-pusher-mongodb-2.0.7-2.fc22.armv7hl requires 
libmongoclient.so
[vfrnav]
vfrnav-20140510-2.fc22.armv7hl requires libpolyclipping.so.16
vfrnav-utils-20140510-2.fc22.armv7hl requires libpolyclipping.so.16



New package: golang-github-vishvananda-netlink-0-0.1.git2187ba6.fc22
 Simple netlink library for go

New package: golang-github-vishvananda-netns-0-0.1.gite14a2d4.fc22
 Simple network namespace handling for go

New package: python-cryptography-0.6.1-2.fc22
 PyCA's cryptography library

New package: timedatex-0.1-1.fc22
 D-Bus service for system clock and RTC settings


Updated Packages:

amanda-3.3.6-9.fc22
---
* Fri Nov 21 2014 Petr Hracek  - 3.3.6-9
- inlude unit files for systemd

* Fri Nov 21 2014 Petr Hracek  - 3.3.6-8
- add kamanda unit files (#1077642)


Size change: 522 bytes

ampr-

Bug 1118446 - wrong colour, instead of turquoise printing blue

2014-11-22 Thread Joerg Lechner
Hi,
still I can not print fotos with my Canon Pixma MP540 (F21 Final TC2, 
cups-gutenprint). Reason: Blue colours are printed not according to the fotos.
This problem is reported and discussed in open Bug 1118446. Are there more 
printers showing similar problems, or is this only the
problem of some Canon printers?
Kind Regards 
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[Test-Announce] Fedora 21 Final Test Compose 3 (TC3) Available Now!

2014-11-22 Thread Andre Robatino
As per the Fedora 21 schedule [1], Fedora 21 Final Test Compose 3 (TC3)
is now available for testing. Content information, including changes,
can be found at https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/6031#comment:10
. Please see the following pages for download links (including delta
ISOs) and testing instructions. Normally dl.fedoraproject.org should
provide the fastest download, but download-ib01.fedoraproject.org is
available as a mirror (with an approximately 1 hour lag) in case of
trouble. To use it, just replace "dl" with "download-ib01" in the
download URL.

Installation:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Installation_Test

Base:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Base_Test

Workstation and Desktop:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Desktop_Test

Server:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Server_Test

Cloud:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Cloud_Test

Summary:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Summary

Ideally, all Alpha, Beta, and Final priority test cases for each of
these test pages [2] should pass in order to meet the Final Release
Criteria [3]. Help is available on #fedora-qa on irc.freenode.net [4],
or on the test list [5].

Create Fedora 21 Final test compose (TC) and release candidate (RC)
https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/6031

Current Blocker and Freeze Exception bugs:
http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current

[1] http://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-21/f-21-quality-tasks.html
[2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Release_validation_test_plan
[3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_21_Final_Release_Criteria
[4] irc://irc.freenode.net/fedora-qa
[5] https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test




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