Re: F29: power notification on gnome lock screen, no journal messages

2018-10-11 Thread Chris Murphy
On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 5:30 PM, Florian Müllner  wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 12:27 AM Chris Murphy  wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 11:45 AM, Florian Müllner  
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Turn them off then? Settings -> Notifications -> Lock Screen Notifications 
>> > ...
>>
>> That's throwing out the baby with the bath water.
>>
>> When I'm using the laptop, they are useful.
>
> That setting turns off notifications when the screen is locked.
> Notifications are still shown normally in the regular session, so I
> don't see how that setting isn't doing exactly what you are asking
> for.

Aha! Yet another example of me being stubborn to add to the
list...Thanks for being persistent in the face of obstinance!

I still would like to know if there's a way to get gnome-shell to be
more verbose about events, ideally dumping them into the journal.

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Fedora 29-20181011.n.0 compose check report

2018-10-11 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images.

Failed openQA tests: 11/133 (x86_64), 3/24 (i386), 1/2 (arm)

ID: 293844  Test: x86_64 Server-dvd-iso server_role_deploy_domain_controller
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/293844
ID: 293858  Test: x86_64 Server-dvd-iso server_freeipa_replication_master
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/293858
ID: 293861  Test: x86_64 Server-dvd-iso modularity_tests
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/293861
ID: 293865  Test: i386 Server-boot-iso install_default
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/293865
ID: 293869  Test: i386 Everything-boot-iso install_default
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/293869
ID: 293870  Test: x86_64 Workstation-live-iso desktop_notifications_live
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/293870
ID: 293881  Test: x86_64 Workstation-live-iso 
desktop_notifications_postinstall
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/293881
ID: 293882  Test: x86_64 Workstation-boot-iso memory_check@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/293882
ID: 293887  Test: i386 Workstation-boot-iso memory_check
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/293887
ID: 293892  Test: x86_64 KDE-live-iso install_default@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/293892
ID: 293899  Test: x86_64 KDE-live-iso desktop_notifications_postinstall
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/293899
ID: 293903  Test: arm Minimal-raw_xz-raw.xz 
install_arm_image_deployment_upload
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/293903
ID: 293921  Test: x86_64 universal upgrade_server_domain_controller
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/293921
ID: 293938  Test: x86_64 universal install_asian_language
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/293938
ID: 293960  Test: x86_64 universal upgrade_2_kde_64bit
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/293960

Soft failed openQA tests: 2/133 (x86_64), 1/24 (i386)
(Tests completed, but using a workaround for a known bug)

ID: 293866  Test: i386 Server-dvd-iso install_default
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/293866
ID: 293889  Test: x86_64 KDE-live-iso install_no_user
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/293889
ID: 293949  Test: x86_64 universal upgrade_server_64bit
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/293949

Passed openQA tests: 114/133 (x86_64), 20/24 (i386)

Skipped openQA tests: 1 of 159
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Re: Testing / feedback request: DNF 3 crashes

2018-10-11 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2018-10-12 at 09:17 +1000, Peter Hutterer wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 11, 2018 at 12:26:09PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > Hi folks!
> > 
> > Around the time DNF 3 landed in Rawhide (hence F29), we had quite a few
> > folks on these lists reporting issues, including crasher bugs. Many of
> > these seemed somehow related to the DNF history database. They also
> > were not easy to isolate and fix.
> > 
> > We're now close to the F29 Beta release, but we don't have a great
> > sense of how many people are still having these problems with DNF 3.2
> > or 3.3.
> > 
> > Can anyone who is still struggling with DNF crashes on *basic*
> > operations on F29 or Rawhide please reply, and provide a few details on
> > what you're seeing and any workarounds or fixes you've found?
> > 
> > Thanks a lot!
> 
> fwiw, I just ran into https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1632177
> after a dnf system-upgrade and it crashed at least the dnf
> history/update/remove commands (whenever it started dependency resolution):
> 
> Completion plugin: Generating completion cache...
> --> Starting dependency resolution
> zsh: segmentation fault  sudo dnf update --debuglevel 10
> 
> moving /var/lib/dnf out of the way fixed it but that's a less than polished
> experience nonetheless ;)

Thanks for the note, it seems 3.6 / 0.20 did not fix all these problems
:/ I have nominated that bug as a Final blocker.
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Re: F29: power notification on gnome lock screen, no journal messages

2018-10-11 Thread Chris Murphy
On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 11:45 AM, Florian Müllner  wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 6:48 PM Chris Murphy  wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 24, 2018 at 6:47 AM, Bastien Nocera  wrote:
>> > The notification should be visible, as it should wake the screen up when it
>> > appears, and also be visible when other notifications appear (which should
>> > also wake up the screen).
>>
>> I'm finding it super annoying.
>
> Turn them off then? Settings -> Notifications -> Lock Screen Notifications ...

That's throwing out the baby with the bath water.

When I'm using the laptop, they are useful.

When I'm not using the laptop, the screen turning on then off then on
then off then on, is annoying: I don't really care one way or another
about notifications as long as I don't see them once my inactivity has
caused the screen to dim.

The policy is "dim screen when inactive" and as this is a user domain
policy, inactive means 'the user is not actively using the computer' -
when some other program can cause the screen to wake up, it's a domain
violation. I haven't interacted with the laptop, therefore the screen
should not wake up under any circumstance. That's how Windows 10 and
macOS behave.

Android and iOS, on the other hand, behave they way GNOME is right
now. Any app can cause the screen to turn on and bug me, which is why
my attention seeking phone is usually face down.

Of course GNOME should know when I'm ignoring it, it shouldn't bug me.
Of course it should.

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Fedora 29 compose report: 20181011.n.0 changes

2018-10-11 Thread Fedora Branched Report
OLD: Fedora-29-20181010.n.0
NEW: Fedora-29-20181011.n.0

= SUMMARY =
Added images:0
Dropped images:  0
Added packages:  0
Dropped packages:0
Upgraded packages:   5
Downgraded packages: 0

Size of added packages:  0 B
Size of dropped packages:0 B
Size of upgraded packages:   58.76 MiB
Size of downgraded packages: 0 B

Size change of upgraded packages:   42.95 KiB
Size change of downgraded packages: 0 B

= ADDED IMAGES =

= DROPPED IMAGES =

= ADDED PACKAGES =

= DROPPED PACKAGES =

= UPGRADED PACKAGES =
Package:  dnf-3.6.1-2.fc29
Old package:  dnf-3.6.1-1.fc29
Summary:  Package manager
RPMs: dnf dnf-automatic dnf-data dnf-yum python2-dnf python3-dnf
Size: 1.31 MiB
Size change:  -80 B
Changelog:
  * Tue Oct 09 2018 Adam Williamson  - 3.6.1-2
  - Backport fixes for RHBZ#1616118 from upstream master


Package:  gnome-control-center-3.30.1-3.fc29
Old package:  gnome-control-center-3.30.1-2.fc29
Summary:  Utilities to configure the GNOME desktop
RPMs: gnome-control-center gnome-control-center-filesystem
Size: 32.14 MiB
Size change:  5.61 KiB
Changelog:
  * Wed Oct 10 2018 Benjamin Berg  - 3.30.1-3
  - Add patch to improve background loading. The patch is not acceptable
upstream as is, but is also a good improvement on the current situation
(#1631002)


Package:  gnome-shell-3.30.1-1.fc29
Old package:  gnome-shell-3.30.0-9.fc29
Summary:  Window management and application launching for GNOME
RPMs: gnome-shell
Size: 8.11 MiB
Size change:  25.16 KiB
Changelog:
  * Mon Oct 08 2018 Florian M??llner  - 3.30.1-1
  - Update to 3.30.1


Package:  gnome-shell-extensions-3.30.1-1.fc29
Old package:  gnome-shell-extensions-3.30.0-1.fc29
Summary:  Modify and extend GNOME Shell functionality and behavior
RPMs: gnome-classic-session gnome-shell-extension-alternate-tab 
gnome-shell-extension-apps-menu gnome-shell-extension-auto-move-windows 
gnome-shell-extension-common gnome-shell-extension-drive-menu 
gnome-shell-extension-launch-new-instance 
gnome-shell-extension-native-window-placement gnome-shell-extension-places-menu 
gnome-shell-extension-screenshot-window-sizer gnome-shell-extension-user-theme 
gnome-shell-extension-window-list gnome-shell-extension-windowsNavigator 
gnome-shell-extension-workspace-indicator
Size: 357.88 KiB
Size change:  -2.07 KiB
Changelog:
  * Mon Oct 08 2018 Florian M??llner  - 3.30.1-1
  - Update to 3.30.1


Package:  mutter-3.30.1-1.fc29
Old package:  mutter-3.30.0-3.fc29
Summary:  Window and compositing manager based on Clutter
RPMs: mutter mutter-devel mutter-tests
Size: 16.84 MiB
Size change:  14.32 KiB
Changelog:
  * Mon Oct 08 2018 Florian M??llner  - 3.30.1-1
  - Update to 3.30.1



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[Test-Announce] Fedora 29 Branched 20181011.n.0 nightly compose nominated for testing

2018-10-11 Thread rawhide
Announcing the creation of a new nightly release validation test event
for Fedora 29 Branched 20181011.n.0. Please help run some tests for this
nightly compose if you have time. For more information on nightly
release validation testing, see:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Release_validation_test_plan

Notable package version changes:
lorax - 20181008.n.0: lorax-29.12-3.fc29.src, 20181011.n.0: 
lorax-29.16-1.fc29.src

Test coverage information for the current release can be seen at:
https://www.happyassassin.net/testcase_stats/29

You can see all results, find testing instructions and image download
locations, and enter results on the Summary page:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_29_Branched_20181011.n.0_Summary

The individual test result pages are:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_29_Branched_20181011.n.0_Installation
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_29_Branched_20181011.n.0_Base
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_29_Branched_20181011.n.0_Server
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_29_Branched_20181011.n.0_Cloud
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_29_Branched_20181011.n.0_Desktop
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Fedora 29-20181010.n.0 compose check report

2018-10-11 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images.

Failed openQA tests: 11/133 (x86_64), 1/2 (arm)

ID: 293272  Test: x86_64 Server-boot-iso install_default@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/293272
ID: 293277  Test: x86_64 Server-dvd-iso server_role_deploy_domain_controller
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/293277
ID: 293291  Test: x86_64 Server-dvd-iso server_freeipa_replication_master
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/293291
ID: 293294  Test: x86_64 Server-dvd-iso modularity_tests
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/293294
ID: 293303  Test: x86_64 Workstation-live-iso desktop_notifications_live
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/293303
ID: 293314  Test: x86_64 Workstation-live-iso 
desktop_notifications_postinstall
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/293314
ID: 293332  Test: x86_64 KDE-live-iso desktop_notifications_postinstall
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/293332
ID: 293336  Test: arm Minimal-raw_xz-raw.xz 
install_arm_image_deployment_upload
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/293336
ID: 293341  Test: x86_64 universal install_blivet_software_raid@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/293341
ID: 293354  Test: x86_64 universal upgrade_server_domain_controller
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/293354
ID: 293371  Test: x86_64 universal install_asian_language
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/293371
ID: 293393  Test: x86_64 universal upgrade_2_kde_64bit
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/293393

Soft failed openQA tests: 2/133 (x86_64), 2/24 (i386)
(Tests completed, but using a workaround for a known bug)

ID: 293298  Test: i386 Server-boot-iso install_default
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/293298
ID: 293299  Test: i386 Server-dvd-iso install_default
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/293299
ID: 293305  Test: x86_64 Workstation-live-iso install_default@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/293305
ID: 293382  Test: x86_64 universal upgrade_server_64bit
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/293382

Passed openQA tests: 114/133 (x86_64), 22/24 (i386)

Skipped openQA tests: 1 of 159
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Introduction - Nomos - Firas Dieter Nuwayhid

2018-10-11 Thread Firas Dieter Nuwayhid
Hello everybody,

I just signed up as a new member for the QA team and want to make a short 
introduction:

Name:  Firas Dieter Nuwayhid
Age:   27
Origin:   Germany
Profession: Verification Engineer
Education:   No background in IT. Studied electrical 
engineering (bachelor) and material science (master)
Linux background:   First started to use Debian during my bachelor 
thesis. I switched to Fedora because I really like the philosophy, the 
community/company behind it and of course the product itself.

If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to contact me!

Regards from Germany
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Re: F29: power notification on gnome lock screen, no journal messages

2018-10-11 Thread Chris Murphy
On Mon, Sep 24, 2018 at 6:47 AM, Bastien Nocera  wrote:
>
>
> - Original Message -
>> You're trying to figure out what the power notification is, or something
>> else? You haven't actually presented a question :)
>>
>> The power notification is, I believe, "Your system is going to get suspend
>> soon due to inactivity" (or phrased similarly). Once you touch an input
>> device, the notification gets destroyed. The presentation is somewhat
>> confusing, I agree. For verification, disable screen blanking. You should
>> see the same power notification pop up some time before the 15 minutes
>> suspend timeout.
>>
>> It probably doesn't make sense to show this particular notification on the
>> lock screen (instead the lock screen could show something like "suspending
>> in X minutes" somewhere visibly by itself). But the sender of the
>> notification can't probably enable/disable lock screen visibility on a
>> per-message basis (but I haven't looked at all the available hints you can
>> attach).
>
> The notification should be visible, as it should wake the screen up when it
> appears, and also be visible when other notifications appear (which should
> also wake up the screen).

I'm finding it super annoying.

a. I've decided to ignore the laptop, laptop display goes off,
notifications are irrelevant.
b. It's distracting me from other work I'm doing, for no good reason.
c. I have an external display connected. Someone sends me a chat
message, the external display lights up for 30 seconds, and then
powers off. They chat again, and it's this on off on off on off cycle
that's making the power savings policy I've set entirely pointless. My
laptop is not a cellphone.

> It should be gnome-shell making the decisions of whether to wake the screen
> up or not, not the caller (see the WakeUpScreen D-Bus signal in both
> source trees for details).

OK but there's nothing in the journal. If it's worth waking up my
laptop and external display and putting up a red power notification as
if there's a problem, this should be logged.



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