Re: Soas is written for kids ( additional information)
On 12/8/18 11:27 AM, pmkel...@frontier.com wrote: Thank you. I did understand that SoaS is for children, I first tried it when I was trying out a bunch of the Fedora spins to see which one I might like to help out with testing. All of the others had an Install option, and in some places I have seen SoaS referred to as Live/Install. I was just wondering if I missed something. Now that I have worked with it for a bit I've come to understand that it being default Live is a good thing; so I am not trying to install it anymore. I'm looking forward to introducing some of the family children (grand kids, nieces, nephews) to it. I think this will be the one I adopt to help out with new release testing. In addition to Fedora Workstation testing. Another e'mail I received said that the SoaS team has moved to Ubuntu. Is there a group that will still make the Fedora spin or will Fedora drop SoaS? Have a Great Day! Pat (tablepc) Sorry, As it turned out I misunderstood the other e'mail I got. The move to Ubuntu is Uruguay's, implementation of OLPC (one laptop per child). They apparently also use SoaS. Have a Great Day! Pat (tablepc) ___ test mailing list -- test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to test-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/test@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Soas is written for kids ( additional information)
Hello, If you're referring to the email I sent, then I'm afraid I explained myself horribly. I didn't mean to say that the SOAS team moved to Ubuntu. What I said is that the continuation of the OLPC project in a specific country (Uruguay, South America) moved to Ubuntu. The OLPC laptops with SOAS are still Fedora as far as I can tell. Links to what I was trying to explain are listed below: Ceibal Project (OLPC in Uruguay) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ceibal_project OLPC http://one.laptop.org Hope this clarify my words. Kind regards, Silvia FAS: lailah On Sat, 8 Dec 2018 at 16:28, pmkel...@frontier.com wrote: > Thank you. I did understand that SoaS is for children, I first tried it > when I was trying out a bunch of the Fedora spins to see which one I > might like to help out with testing. All of the others had an Install > option, and in some places I have seen SoaS referred to as Live/Install. > I was just wondering if I missed something. Now that I have worked with > it for a bit I've come to understand that it being default Live is a > good thing; so I am not trying to install it anymore. > > I'm looking forward to introducing some of the family children (grand > kids, nieces, nephews) to it. I think this will be the one I adopt to > help out with new release testing. In addition to Fedora Workstation > testing. > > Another e'mail I received said that the SoaS team has moved to Ubuntu. > Is there a group that will still make the Fedora spin or will Fedora > drop SoaS? > > > Have a Great Day! > > Pat (tablepc) > > > On 12/8/18 10:54 AM, Thomas Gilliard wrote: > > "Soas is written for kids. > > Designed to be used as a live usb. > > Thus the installer was hidden so an install would not happen on the host > > PC. > > To installgo to the list view of the home screen (f3) scroll down > > and start terminal. Enter “liveinst” (liveinstaller). This starts a > > normal anaconda install." [1][4] > > > > It is also possible to build a Persistent live USB [2] [3] > > > > [1] https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Fedora_29 > > > > [2] > > > https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Fedora_30#8_GB_and_16_GB_Persistent_USB.27s > > > > [3] https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Talk:Fedora_30 (persistence) > > > > [4] https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit (Project: General > > info on sugar - being revised) > > > > > ___ > test mailing list -- test@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to test-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/test@lists.fedoraproject.org > ___ test mailing list -- test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to test-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/test@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Soas is written for kids ( additional information)
Thank you. I did understand that SoaS is for children, I first tried it when I was trying out a bunch of the Fedora spins to see which one I might like to help out with testing. All of the others had an Install option, and in some places I have seen SoaS referred to as Live/Install. I was just wondering if I missed something. Now that I have worked with it for a bit I've come to understand that it being default Live is a good thing; so I am not trying to install it anymore. I'm looking forward to introducing some of the family children (grand kids, nieces, nephews) to it. I think this will be the one I adopt to help out with new release testing. In addition to Fedora Workstation testing. Another e'mail I received said that the SoaS team has moved to Ubuntu. Is there a group that will still make the Fedora spin or will Fedora drop SoaS? Have a Great Day! Pat (tablepc) On 12/8/18 10:54 AM, Thomas Gilliard wrote: "Soas is written for kids. Designed to be used as a live usb. Thus the installer was hidden so an install would not happen on the host PC. To installgo to the list view of the home screen (f3) scroll down and start terminal. Enter “liveinst” (liveinstaller). This starts a normal anaconda install." [1][4] It is also possible to build a Persistent live USB [2] [3] [1] https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Fedora_29 [2] https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Fedora_30#8_GB_and_16_GB_Persistent_USB.27s [3] https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Talk:Fedora_30 (persistence) [4] https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit (Project: General info on sugar - being revised) ___ test mailing list -- test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to test-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/test@lists.fedoraproject.org
Soas is written for kids ( additional information)
"Soas is written for kids. Designed to be used as a live usb. Thus the installer was hidden so an install would not happen on the host PC. To installgo to the list view of the home screen (f3) scroll down and start terminal. Enter “liveinst” (liveinstaller). This starts a normal anaconda install." [1][4] It is also possible to build a Persistent live USB [2] [3] [1] https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Fedora_29 [2] https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Fedora_30#8_GB_and_16_GB_Persistent_USB.27s [3] https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Talk:Fedora_30 (persistence) [4] https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit (Project: General info on sugar - being revised) ___ test mailing list -- test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to test-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/test@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Spins testing and vanishing?
Soas is written for kids. Designed to be used as a live usb. Thus the installer was hidden so an install would not happen on the host PC. To installgo to the list view of the home screen (f3) scroll down and start terminal. Enter “liveinst” (liveinstaller). This starts a normal anaconda install. > On Dec 5, 2018, at 8:23 AM, "pmkel...@frontier.com" > wrote: > > Recently I was in a chain of e'mails on the Test List and someone mentioned > that the spins probably needed more attention than they have been getting for > test. I volunteered that I might help out with that. I decided to check out > the spins to see if there was one I particularly felt like I would like to > help out with testing on. Over that last few weeks I have tried out KDE > Plasma, Cinnamon, Sugar on a Stick, and Mate. After installing each one, I > spent about a day familiarizing myself with it. Certainly not an in depth > appreciation for their capabilities, but I became familiar with their basic > approach and tools. > > Today I see news that KDE is likely to fall off the Fedora table. I think I > will wait a bit before I decide on a spin that I want to help out with. Since > my primary focus is Fedora I don't want to get started on something that will > be going away. > > As a side note I didn't see anything that would pull me away from using gnome > on the PCs here. Well that's partly because I have everyone used to Gnome and > I don't want to suffer through a change. > > I must say however, having two grandchildren about two years old, that I > found Sugar on a Stick to be very attractive and something I would like to be > involved with. > > I have a question, if I may: I have seen SoaS listed as Live and as > Live/Install. I down loaded it from the Fedora site. and I bought a copy from > OSDisk. They were both Live only. Does anyone know if there is an install > version? > >Have a Great Day! > >Pat (tablepc) > ___ > test mailing list -- test@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to test-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/test@lists.fedoraproject.org ___ test mailing list -- test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to test-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/test@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Spins testing and vanishing?
Hello folks, About SOAS: SOAS stands for "Sugar on a stick" so it's not meant to be used as a installed system but live from the USB stick or memory. However, SOAS was used as installed system in the earlier versions of XO/OLPC laptops. Later versions used Fedora with two desktops installed, Gnome & Sugar. The continuation of this project in Uruguay, switched to Ubuntu and as far as I can tell, it still uses that system. So, the option to install SOAS exists and it's possible but with some tweaking, it's not the default behaviour nor the purpose of this Spin. Also, as Adam said, you can install Sugar like any other desktop, in your system. Hope this helps. Kind regards, Silvia FAS: Lailah On Thu, 6 Dec 2018 at 00:49, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Wed, 2018-12-05 at 19:12 -0500, Matthew Miller wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 05, 2018 at 11:23:25AM -0500, pmkel...@frontier.com wrote: > > > Today I see news that KDE is likely to fall off the Fedora table. I > > > > Red Hat isn't supporting KDE in some future RHEL versions. But they > > *already* don't support Xfce or SOAS or the other desktops you mention. > This > > has no effect on Fedora. > > > > > I have a question, if I may: I have seen SoaS listed as Live and as > > > Live/Install. I down loaded it from the Fedora site. and I bought a > > > copy from OSDisk. They were both Live only. Does anyone know if > > > there is an install version? > > > > The Fedora live versions in general also come with an Install option > > (usually as an application). It's been awhile since I looked at SOAS but > I > > imagine that's the case there too. > > SoaS doesn't show an installer icon or anything as it's not really > intended to be installed, but you *can* run the installer from a > console if you insist (per Thomas' mail). > > You can also install the Sugar desktop package group from a network > install, I think. > -- > Adam Williamson > Fedora QA Community Monkey > IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net > http://www.happyassassin.net > ___ > test mailing list -- test@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to test-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/test@lists.fedoraproject.org > ___ test mailing list -- test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to test-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/test@lists.fedoraproject.org
