Re: 39 to 40 upgrades breaks yelp

2024-03-02 Thread Ian Laurie

On 3/3/24 15:19, Ian Laurie wrote:

After upgrade to Fedora 40, applications in Xfce that use yelp for help
(GParted, Atril etc) can no longer bring up content.

Running yelp from the command line brings inconsistent results on
different systems that have been upgraded.  The thing they have in
common is yelp has no visible content.

adric$ yelp
TU: error: ../src/freedreno/vulkan/tu_knl.cc:232: device
/dev/dri/renderD128 (i915) is not compatible with turnip
(VK_ERROR_INCOMPATIBLE_DRIVER)
TU: error: ../src/freedreno/vulkan/tu_knl.cc:232: device
/dev/dri/renderD128 (i915) is not compatible with turnip
(VK_ERROR_INCOMPATIBLE_DRIVER)
DRI3 not available
failed to load driver: zink
Failed to get GBM device
I/O error : Attempt to load network entity
http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/xml/4.1.2/docbookx.dtd
I/O error : Attempt to load network entity
http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/xml/4.1.2/docbookx.dtd
Failed to get GBM device
Failed to get GBM device
Failed to get GBM device
Failed to get GBM device
adric$

Another system:

fc40$ yelp
I/O error : Attempt to load network entity
http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/xml/4.1.2/docbookx.dtd
fc40$
** (WebKitWebProcess:2852): ERROR **: 15:13:40.224: WebProcess didn't
exit as expected after the UI process connection was closed
fc40$


Yelp runs OK in a freshly installed Xfce Fedora 40, so this appears to
be some kind of update stuff-up.

This may be related.  Until the latest round of updates, yelp ran from
the command line on Rawhide with no errors.  I went back to a backed up
VM and upgraded individual packages until the breakage happened.

This payload brought errors:

Upgrading:
 gettext-envsubst x86_64 0.22.4-2.fc41
  rawhide  38 k
 gettext-libs x86_64 0.22.4-2.fc41
  rawhide 332 k
 gettext-runtime  x86_64 0.22.4-2.fc41
  rawhide 123 k
Installing dependencies:
 libtextstyle x86_64 0.22.4-2.fc41
  rawhide  89 k

Now, when yelp is run from the command line, these errors happen:

rawhide$ yelp
libEGL warning: DRI2: failed to authenticate
TU: error: ../src/freedreno/vulkan/tu_knl.cc:232: device
/dev/dri/renderD128 (vmwgfx) is not compatible with turnip
(VK_ERROR_INCOMPATIBLE_DRIVER)
MESA: error: ZINK: failed to choose pdev
libEGL warning: egl: failed to create dri2 screen
TU: error: ../src/freedreno/vulkan/tu_knl.cc:232: device
/dev/dri/renderD128 (vmwgfx) is not compatible with turnip
(VK_ERROR_INCOMPATIBLE_DRIVER)
MESA: error: ZINK: failed to choose pdev
glx: failed to create drisw screen
failed to load driver: zink
VMware: No 3D enabled (0, Success).
libEGL warning: egl: failed to create dri2 screen
VMware: No 3D enabled (0, Success).
libEGL warning: egl: failed to create dri2 screen
I/O error : Attempt to load network entity
http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/xml/4.1.2/docbookx.dtd
I/O error : Attempt to load network entity
http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/xml/4.5/docbookx.dtd
rawhide$

However... yelp still manages to work despite striking similarity in
errors to an upgrade Fedora 40 system.


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39 to 40 upgrades breaks yelp

2024-03-02 Thread Ian Laurie

After upgrade to Fedora 40, applications in Xfce that use yelp for help
(GParted, Atril etc) can no longer bring up content.

Running yelp from the command line brings inconsistent results on
different systems that have been upgraded.  The thing they have in
common is yelp has no visible content.

adric$ yelp
TU: error: ../src/freedreno/vulkan/tu_knl.cc:232: device
/dev/dri/renderD128 (i915) is not compatible with turnip
(VK_ERROR_INCOMPATIBLE_DRIVER)
TU: error: ../src/freedreno/vulkan/tu_knl.cc:232: device
/dev/dri/renderD128 (i915) is not compatible with turnip
(VK_ERROR_INCOMPATIBLE_DRIVER)
DRI3 not available
failed to load driver: zink
Failed to get GBM device
I/O error : Attempt to load network entity
http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/xml/4.1.2/docbookx.dtd
I/O error : Attempt to load network entity
http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/xml/4.1.2/docbookx.dtd
Failed to get GBM device
Failed to get GBM device
Failed to get GBM device
Failed to get GBM device
adric$

Another system:

fc40$ yelp
I/O error : Attempt to load network entity
http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/xml/4.1.2/docbookx.dtd
fc40$
** (WebKitWebProcess:2852): ERROR **: 15:13:40.224: WebProcess didn't
exit as expected after the UI process connection was closed
fc40$


Yelp runs OK in a freshly installed Xfce Fedora 40, so this appears to
be some kind of update stuff-up.


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Re: Fedora-40-20240217.n.0 won't install

2024-03-02 Thread Ian Laurie

This issue is fixed.  By setting a specific installation source URL to
point to the Fedora-40-20240302.n.0 compose I was able to install from
the Everything Netinstall ISO image.


https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2244744
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2266335

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2024-02-19 - Fedora Quality Meeting - Minutes

2024-03-02 Thread Adam Williamson
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Meeting started by @adamwill:fedora.im at 2024-02-19 16:00:35



Meeting summary
---
* TOPIC: Roll Call (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:00:41)
* TOPIC: Previous meeting follow-up (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:12:10)
* INFO: "adamw to email marian about LVM bugs" - I did that, and it
looks like Peter Boy got some further information about why things are
the way they are and is working on a plan to deal with them (this is
about https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2247872 as it affects
Server on ARM) (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:13:14)
* INFO: further to above: Peter Boy is trying to work on required
changes but needs some information from the ARM team
(@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:19:50)
* INFO: "adamw to try and talk to mcsontos about
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2258764; - I think this was
a clarification of the first action item, actually, so the result is
the same: we've got a bit further along but still trying to work on it
(@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:22:26)
* INFO: "adamw and kparal to come up with a plan to start directing
'official' messages to discourse as well as mailing lists (and possibly
having the mailing list versions encourage use of discourse?)" - well,
I didn't write anything down in any SOPs or anything, but I have been
sending meeting announcements to discourse as well as mailing lists for
the last couple of weeks (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:23:13)
* TOPIC: Fedora 40 status, including anaconda web UI test planning
(@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:32:15)
* INFO: the "web UI" new interface for anaconda (the installer)
that is used on Workstation live images in Fedora 40 changed its
backend for custom partitioning from blivet-gui (the same tool you can
launch from the "gtk UI" current installer interface, as "Advanced
Custom") to cockpit's storage backend (which has never been used in an
installer context before). this landed in the anaconda package on 2023-
02-07 and in a successful compose on 2023-02-10, so it is rather late
(@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:33:59)
* INFO: there are a few places this is being discussed, including
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2263964 and
https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/3169 . We have a ticket for updating the
criteria and test cases at https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/issue/763 and a
ticket for atest day at https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/issue/764
(@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:35:16)
* INFO: the "web UI" new interface for anaconda (the installer)
that is used on Workstation live images in Fedora 40 changed its
backend for custom partitioning from blivet-gui (the same tool you can
launch from the "gtk UI" current installer interface, as "Advanced
Custom") to cockpit's storage backend (which has never been used in an
installer context before). this landed in the anaconda package on 2024-
02-07 and in a successful compose on 2024-02-10, so it is rather late
(@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:35:28)
* INFO: please test the new UI if you can, file any bugs you hit,
and mark them as blocking bug 2231339 (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:50:00)
* TOPIC: Test Day / community event status (@adamwill:fedora.im,
16:55:12)
* INFO: the anaconda webui storage Test Week will be coming soon,
tentative start date 2024-02-22 - follow
https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/issue/764 for that (@adamwill:fedora.im,
16:56:04)
* INFO: The KDE Plasma 6 happened
https://testdays.fedoraproject.org/events/174 .. good amount of test
runs :) (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:56:59)
* INFO: GNOME 46 Desktop and Core Apps happening now
https://testdays.fedoraproject.org/events/175 (@adamwill:fedora.im,
16:57:06)
* INFO: i8n will start March 5th
https://testdays.fedoraproject.org/events/177 (@adamwill:fedora.im,
16:59:33)
* TOPIC: Open floor (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:59:37)

Meeting ended at 2024-02-19 18:19:05

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2024-02-05 - Fedora Quality Meeting - Minutes

2024-03-02 Thread Adam Williamson
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Meeting started by @adamwill:fedora.im at 2024-02-05 16:01:02



Meeting summary
---
* TOPIC: Roll Call (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:01:05)
* TOPIC: Previous meeting follow-up (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:11:13)
* INFO: "adamw to contact bootloader folks about plans for shim in
F40" - I did that. haven't heard anything definitive back yet, but I
tried. Gerd Hoffman wrote back that the upstream shim repo got a bunch
of updates which to him suggests there'll be a new release soon, but
that's it (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:11:59)
* INFO: "adamw and kparal to come up with a plan to start directing
'official' messages to discourse as well as mailing lists (and possibly
having the mailing list versions encourage use of discourse?)" - we
haven't entirely got around to this yet, sorry. we'll keep trying to
get to it (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:12:24)
* INFO: "adamw to file a ticket suggesting a Test Day for
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ModernizeLiveMedia; - done (and
I *definitely* did it soon after the last meeting and not five minutes
ago when I read the minutes) - https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/issue/762
(@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:12:47)
* TOPIC: Fedora 40 check-in (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:18:59)
* TOPIC: Fedora 40 check-in (@bittin:fedora.im, 16:18:59)
* INFO: Fedora 40 will branch on Tuesday 13th, hold on to your hats
(@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:27:04)
* INFO: the deadline for changes to be 'testable' is the same date
(Tuesday 13th) (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:27:47)
* TOPIC: Test Day / community event status (@adamwill:fedora.im,
16:37:29)
* INFO: we had kernel 6.7 test week recently, and Plasma 6 test
week is winding up today - last chance to get your tests in at
https://testdays.fedoraproject.org/events/174 ) (@adamwill:fedora.im,
16:38:22)
* INFO: Fedora i18n/l10n test week has a suggested week of the
first week in March 2024 (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:38:35)
* INFO: https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/184#comment-894361
(@bittin:fedora.im, 16:38:46)
* TOPIC: Open floor (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:40:45)
* ACTION: adamw to email marian about LVM bugs (@bittin:fedora.im,
16:51:04)
* ACTION: adamw to try and talk to mcsontos about
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2258764
(@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:51:08)

Meeting ended at 2024-02-05 16:57:26

Action items

* adamw to email marian about LVM bugs 
* adamw to try and talk to mcsontos about
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2258764 

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2024-01-22 - Fedora Quality Meeting - Minutes

2024-03-02 Thread Adam Williamson
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Meeting started by @adamwill:fedora.im at 2024-01-22 16:01:52



Meeting summary
---
* TOPIC: Roll Call (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:02:00)
* TOPIC: Previous meeting follow-up (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:09:27)
* INFO: "adamw to contact bootloader folks about plans for shim in
F40" - oops, I didn't get to this yet. I'll do it today
(@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:10:25)
* ACTION: adamw to contact bootloader folks about plans for shim in
F40 (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:10:31)
* INFO: "adamw and kparal to come up with a plan to start directing
'official' messages to discourse as well as mailing lists (and possibly
having the mailing list versions encourage use of discourse?)" - yeah,
uh, we didn't do that yet either, did we? at least I can share the
blame for that! (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:10:58)
* ACTION: adamw and kparal to come up with a plan to start
directing 'official' messages to discourse as well as mailing lists
(and possibly having the mailing list versions encourage use of
discourse?) (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:11:14)
* INFO: "adamw to make sure sumantro is around next time" - he was
intending to, but had an emergency and couldn't make it, I have an
update from him for later (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:15:54)
* TOPIC: Fedora 40 Change review and check-in (@adamwill:fedora.im,
16:16:10)
* INFO: F40 mass rebuild is in progress right now
(@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:16:58)
* INFO: there is a major bug affecting XFS installs to BIOS
(including default Server installs) -
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2259266
(@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:17:20)
* INFO: all updates are currently failing openQA tests apparently
due to accounts.fp.o being down (the web browser test uses it), I will
rerun tests once it's back up, if it stays down for a long time I'll
figure out a workaround (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:18:11)
* INFO: boost soname bump landed right before the mass rebuild,
keep an eye out for any changes from that (@adamwill:fedora.im,
16:18:50)
* INFO: accepted Changes are at
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/40/ChangeSet
(@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:22:56)
* ACTION: adamw to file a ticket suggesting a Test Day for
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ModernizeLiveMedia
(@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:35:29)
* TOPIC: Test Day / community event status (@adamwill:fedora.im,
16:42:27)
* INFO: kernel test week is running 2021-01-21 to 2024-01-28 -
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2024-01-21_Kernel_6.7_Test_Week
and https://testdays.fedoraproject.org/events/173 (@adamwill:fedora.im,
16:43:19)
* INFO: KDE/Plasma 6.0 test week will be 2024-01-29 through 2024-
02-05 -
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2024-01-29_KDE_Plasma_6_Test_Week
(@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:43:57)
* TOPIC: Open floor (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:49:33)
* INFO: test info (@adamwill:fedora.im, 17:01:34)

Meeting ended at 2024-01-22 19:26:56

Action items

* adamw to contact bootloader folks about plans for shim in F40 
* adamw and kparal to come up with a plan to start directing 'official'
messages to discourse as well as mailing lists (and possibly having the
mailing list versions encourage use of discourse?) 
* adamw to file a ticket suggesting a Test Day for
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ModernizeLiveMedia 

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2024-01-08 - Fedora QA Meeting - Minutes

2024-03-02 Thread Adam Williamson
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Meeting started by @adamwill:fedora.im at 2024-01-08 16:01:56



Meeting summary
---
* TOPIC: Roll Call (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:02:06)
* TOPIC: Previous meeting follow-up (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:08:09)
* INFO: no action items from the previous meeting, does anybody
have anything that wasn't marked as an action item?
(@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:08:35)
* INFO: no action items from the previous meeting
(@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:11:08)
* TOPIC: Fedora 40 check-in (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:11:23)
* INFO: we have 4 proposed blockers and 6 accepted blockers for F40
(though 4 of the accepted blockers are image size bugs and we're in the
process of lifting those limits). would be good for folks to vote on
the proposals (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:12:25)
* ACTION: adamw to contact bootloader folks about plans for shim in
F40 (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:12:36)
* INFO: there are still four more change proposals to come as they
were proposed before deadlines over the holidays (@adamwill:fedora.im,
16:22:04)
* INFO: in general F40 seems to be in solid shape at the moment, no
major breakages (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:38:43)
* TOPIC: Communications overhaul: Discourse? (@adamwill:fedora.im,
16:42:51)
* ACTION: adamw and kparal to come up with a plan to start
directing 'official' messages to discourse as well as mailing lists
(and possibly having the mailing list versions encourage use of
discourse?) (@adamwill:fedora.im, 17:01:20)
* TOPIC: Test Day / community event status (@adamwill:fedora.im,
17:05:34)
* INFO: tabled as sumantro is not around (@adamwill:fedora.im,
17:05:54)
* ACTION: adamw to make sure sumantro is around next time
(@adamwill:fedora.im, 17:06:00)
* TOPIC: Open floor (@adamwill:fedora.im, 17:06:05)

Meeting ended at 2024-01-08 17:10:36

Action items

* adamw to contact bootloader folks about plans for shim in F40 
* adamw and kparal to come up with a plan to start directing 'official'
messages to discourse as well as mailing lists (and possibly having the
mailing list versions encourage use of discourse?) 
* adamw to make sure sumantro is around next time 

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2023-12-11 - Fedora QA Meeting - Minutes

2024-03-02 Thread Adam Williamson
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Meeting started by @adamwill:fedora.im at 2023-12-11 16:00:33



Meeting summary
---
* TOPIC: Roll Call (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:00:49)
* TOPIC: Previous meeting follow-up (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:06:49)
* INFO: "adamw to consider moving the meeting back to Matrix next time" - 
well, seems like that's working out so far :) (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:07:21)
* TOPIC: Fedora 40 check-in (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:27:31)
* INFO: 40 is looking mostly fine right now, tests are mostly passing with 
a few known issues and the mysterious GNOME bug where clicking on stuff in 
openQA sometimes doesn't work. please remember to keep testing the new 
installer UI (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:35:08)
* TOPIC: Communications overhaul: Discourse and Matrix? (@adamwill:fedora.im, 
16:35:11)
* TOPIC: Test Day / community event status (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:50:41)
* INFO: let's skip this for now as sumantro couldn't make it (family 
issues) (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:50:53)
* TOPIC: Open floor (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:50:58)

Meeting ended at 2023-12-11 16:57:44

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* @coremodule:fedora.im (3)
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2023-11-27 - Fedora QA Meeting - Minutes

2024-03-02 Thread Adam Williamson
==
#fedora-meeting: Fedora QA meeting
==


Meeting started by adamw at 16:00:25 UTC. The full logs are available at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2023-11-13/fedora-qa.2023-11-13-16.00.log.html
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Meeting summary
---
* Roll Call  (adamw, 16:00:37)

* Previous meeting follow-up  (adamw, 16:11:22)
  * no action items from previous meeting  (adamw, 16:11:41)

* Fedora 39 and Fedora 40 check-ins  (adamw, 16:12:57)
  * Fedora 39 was released last week, the release seems to be going over
well  (adamw, 16:13:10)
  * thanks to kparal for working on the common issues and everybody for
all the testing of this release  (adamw, 16:13:24)
  * also thanks to kparal96 (and kparals 2 through 95)  (adamw,
16:15:52)
  * Fedora 40 seems mostly fine at this point, except for an annoying
bug (possibly in mesa?) which is causing frequent failures in some
openQA GNOME tests...now I'm back from vacation I'll be looking into
that  (adamw, 16:16:41)

* Communications overhaul: Discourse and Matrix?  (adamw, 16:27:17)
  * LINK: https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/tag/quality-team
(adamw, 16:31:52)
  * adamw is planning to propose making matrix the official team chat
for all purposes (including meetings as soon as the matrix bot is
usable) and moving from mailing lists to discourse for async
discussion. will send more detailed proposals out later  (adamw,
16:37:15)
  * LINK: https://fedoramagazine.org/join-the-conversation/ seems to
exist  (adamw, 16:44:13)

* Test Day / community event status  (adamw, 16:47:36)
  * we are in the kernel 6.6 test week, so please help out with that:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2023-11-12_Kernel_6.6_Test_Week
(adamw, 16:48:13)
  * the call for Fedora 40 Test Days is out:

https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/test@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/M2RH5A5CZEAEKX3UFW6JEKU6DEYXLXHE/
(adamw, 16:48:54)

* Open floor  (adamw, 16:50:16)
  * LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2023-11-12_Kernel_6.6_Test_Week
guess this week Kernel 6.6 for Fedora 39 and 38 is being tested
(luna_, 16:56:45)

Meeting ended at 17:15:01 UTC.




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2023-11-13 - Fedora QA Meeting - Minutes

2024-03-02 Thread Adam Williamson
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#fedora-meeting: Fedora QA meeting
==


Meeting started by adamw at 16:00:25 UTC. The full logs are available at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2023-11-13/fedora-qa.2023-11-13-16.00.log.html
.



Meeting summary
---
* Roll Call  (adamw, 16:00:37)

* Previous meeting follow-up  (adamw, 16:11:22)
  * no action items from previous meeting  (adamw, 16:11:41)

* Fedora 39 and Fedora 40 check-ins  (adamw, 16:12:57)
  * Fedora 39 was released last week, the release seems to be going over
well  (adamw, 16:13:10)
  * thanks to kparal for working on the common issues and everybody for
all the testing of this release  (adamw, 16:13:24)
  * also thanks to kparal96 (and kparals 2 through 95)  (adamw,
16:15:52)
  * Fedora 40 seems mostly fine at this point, except for an annoying
bug (possibly in mesa?) which is causing frequent failures in some
openQA GNOME tests...now I'm back from vacation I'll be looking into
that  (adamw, 16:16:41)

* Communications overhaul: Discourse and Matrix?  (adamw, 16:27:17)
  * LINK: https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/tag/quality-team
(adamw, 16:31:52)
  * adamw is planning to propose making matrix the official team chat
for all purposes (including meetings as soon as the matrix bot is
usable) and moving from mailing lists to discourse for async
discussion. will send more detailed proposals out later  (adamw,
16:37:15)
  * LINK: https://fedoramagazine.org/join-the-conversation/ seems to
exist  (adamw, 16:44:13)

* Test Day / community event status  (adamw, 16:47:36)
  * we are in the kernel 6.6 test week, so please help out with that:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2023-11-12_Kernel_6.6_Test_Week
(adamw, 16:48:13)
  * the call for Fedora 40 Test Days is out:

https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/test@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/M2RH5A5CZEAEKX3UFW6JEKU6DEYXLXHE/
(adamw, 16:48:54)

* Open floor  (adamw, 16:50:16)
  * LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2023-11-12_Kernel_6.6_Test_Week
guess this week Kernel 6.6 for Fedora 39 and 38 is being tested
(luna_, 16:56:45)

Meeting ended at 17:15:01 UTC.




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2023-10-16 - Fedora QA Meeting - Minutes

2024-03-02 Thread Adam Williamson
==
#fedora-meeting: Fedora QA meeting
==


Meeting started by adamw at 15:00:12 UTC. The full logs are available at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2023-10-16/fedora-qa.2023-10-16-15.00.log.html
.



Meeting summary
---
* Roll Call  (adamw, 15:00:20)

* previous meeting follow-up  (adamw, 15:15:01)
  * "adamw to talk to IoT team and releng and websites about ensuring an
IoT compose is ready for beta release" - I did that, and there was
one  (adamw, 15:15:48)

* Fedora 39 status  (adamw, 15:18:35)
  * Go/No-Go is scheduled for Thursday  (adamw, 15:18:50)
  * there's a blocker review meeting at the top of the hour in
#fedora-blocker-review . we still have blockers  (adamw, 15:19:06)
  * LINK: https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=8
https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/?packages=kernel but asking
jforbes in #fedora-kernel is better i think  (luna_, 15:34:09)

* Test Day / community event status  (adamw, 15:39:42)
  * several test days happened since the last meeting, see
https://testdays.fedoraproject.org/events  (adamw, 15:43:06)
  * thanks to all who attended  (adamw, 15:43:16)
  * there are no more planned in the near future as f39 schedule is
ending  (adamw, 15:43:25)

* Open floor  (adamw, 15:46:41)

Meeting ended at 15:53:32 UTC.




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2024-03-04 @ 16:00 UTC - Fedora QA Meeting

2024-03-02 Thread Adam Williamson
# Fedora Quality Assurance Meeting
# Date: 2024-03-04
# Time: 16:00 UTC
(https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/UTCHowto)
# Location:
https://matrix.to/#/#meeting:fedoraproject.org?web-instance[element.io]=chat.fedoraproject.org

Greetings testers! It's meeting time again, and once again we'll
be on Matrix.

If anyone has any other items for the agenda, please reply to this
email and suggest them! Thanks.

== Proposed Agenda Topics ==

1. Previous meeting follow-up
2. Fedora 40 status
3. Test Day / community event status
4. Open floor
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[Test-Announce] 2024-03-04 @ 16:00 UTC - Fedora QA Meeting

2024-03-02 Thread Adam Williamson
# Fedora Quality Assurance Meeting
# Date: 2024-03-04
# Time: 16:00 UTC
(https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/UTCHowto)
# Location:
https://matrix.to/#/#meeting:fedoraproject.org?web-instance[element.io]=chat.fedoraproject.org

Greetings testers! It's meeting time again, and once again we'll
be on Matrix.

If anyone has any other items for the agenda, please reply to this
email and suggest them! Thanks.

== Proposed Agenda Topics ==

1. Previous meeting follow-up
2. Fedora 40 status
3. Test Day / community event status
4. Open floor
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[Test-Announce] 2024-03-04 @ 17:00 UTC - Fedora 40 Blocker Review Meeting

2024-03-02 Thread Adam Williamson
# F40 Blocker Review meeting
# Date: 2024-03-04
# Time: 17:00 UTC
# Location:
https://matrix.to/#/#blocker-review:fedoraproject.org?web-instance[element.io]=chat.fedoraproject.org

Hi folks! It's time for another blocker review meeting. We have 2
proposed freeze exception for Beta, and 5 proposed blockers for Final.

The meeting will be on Matrix. Click the link above to join in a web
client - you can authenticate with your FAS account - or use a
dedicated client of your choosing.

If you have time this weekend, you can take a look at the proposed or
accepted blockers before the meeting -  the full lists can be found
here: https://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/ .

Remember, you can also now vote on bugs outside of review meetings! If
you look at the bug list in the blockerbugs app, you'll see links
labeled "Vote!" next to all proposed blockers and freeze exceptions.
Those links take you to tickets where you can vote.
https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review has instructions on how
exactly you do it. We usually go through the tickets shortly before the
meeting and apply any clear votes, so the meeting will just cover bugs
where there wasn't a clear outcome in the ticket voting yet. **THIS
MEANS IF YOU VOTE NOW, THE MEETING WILL BE SHORTER!**

We'll be evaluating these bugs to see if they violate any of the 
Release Criteria and warrant the blocking of a release if they're not 
fixed. Information on the release criteria for F40 can be found on the 
wiki [0].

For more information about the Blocker and Freeze exception process, 
check out these links:
 - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_blocker_bug_process
 - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_freeze_exception_bug_process

And for those of you who are curious how a Blocker Review Meeting 
works - or how it's supposed to go and you want to run one - check out 
the SOP on the wiki:
 - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting

Have a good weekend and see you on Monday!

[0] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Release_Criteria
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2024-03-04 @ 17:00 UTC - Fedora 40 Blocker Review Meeting

2024-03-02 Thread Adam Williamson
# F40 Blocker Review meeting
# Date: 2024-03-04
# Time: 17:00 UTC
# Location:
https://matrix.to/#/#blocker-review:fedoraproject.org?web-instance[element.io]=chat.fedoraproject.org

Hi folks! It's time for another blocker review meeting. We have 2
proposed freeze exception for Beta, and 5 proposed blockers for Final.

The meeting will be on Matrix. Click the link above to join in a web
client - you can authenticate with your FAS account - or use a
dedicated client of your choosing.

If you have time this weekend, you can take a look at the proposed or
accepted blockers before the meeting -  the full lists can be found
here: https://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/ .

Remember, you can also now vote on bugs outside of review meetings! If
you look at the bug list in the blockerbugs app, you'll see links
labeled "Vote!" next to all proposed blockers and freeze exceptions.
Those links take you to tickets where you can vote.
https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review has instructions on how
exactly you do it. We usually go through the tickets shortly before the
meeting and apply any clear votes, so the meeting will just cover bugs
where there wasn't a clear outcome in the ticket voting yet. **THIS
MEANS IF YOU VOTE NOW, THE MEETING WILL BE SHORTER!**

We'll be evaluating these bugs to see if they violate any of the 
Release Criteria and warrant the blocking of a release if they're not 
fixed. Information on the release criteria for F40 can be found on the 
wiki [0].

For more information about the Blocker and Freeze exception process, 
check out these links:
 - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_blocker_bug_process
 - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_freeze_exception_bug_process

And for those of you who are curious how a Blocker Review Meeting 
works - or how it's supposed to go and you want to run one - check out 
the SOP on the wiki:
 - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting

Have a good weekend and see you on Monday!

[0] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Release_Criteria
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[Test-Announce] Fedora Linux 40 i18n test week 2024-03-05 through 2024-03-11

2024-03-02 Thread Sumantro Mukherjee
Hey Folks,

We will be having a Fedora Linux 40 i18n test week starting 2024-03-05.
The wiki[0] has all the information on participating in the test week.
You can grab the choice of your image [Workstation/Silverblue/Kionite]
from this page[1]

We look forward to the results and feedback!

Thank You

[0] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2024-03-05_I18N_Test_Day
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Fedora Linux 40 i18n test week 2024-03-05 through 2024-03-11

2024-03-02 Thread Sumantro Mukherjee
Hey Folks,

We will be having a Fedora Linux 40 i18n test week starting 2024-03-05.
The wiki[0] has all the information on participating in the test week.
You can grab the choice of your image [Workstation/Silverblue/Kionite]
from this page[1]

We look forward to the results and feedback!

Thank You

[0] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2024-03-05_I18N_Test_Day
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