Re: Stale package in Rawhide

[Dennis Gilmore]

Composes have been failing due to various reasons,  as soon as we get a
compose it will be out.

Dennis

El mar, 27-02-2018 a las 00:56 +0100, Marcin Zajączkowski escribió:
> Hi,
> 
> I maintain automatic weekly builds of DoubleCmd in COPR. Recently the
> project started to fail due to fpc upgrade without a lazarus rebuild
> against it.
> 
> The maintainer make a new build 4 days ago:
> https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=25282137
> however, that package is not visible in Rawhide still braking my COPR
> build:
> https://copr-be.cloud.fedoraproject.org/results/vondruch/doublecmd/fe
> dora-rawhide-x86_64/00721408-doublecmd-gtk/builder-live.log
> 
> And in fact, there is no new package on the server:
> https://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/development/rawhide/Eve
> rything/x86_64/os/Packages/l/
> > lazarus-1.6.4-3.fc27.x86_64.rpm   2017-08-20 13:22   98M
> 
> (the same is for fc28)
> 
> Regarding the schedule it's not a freeze time. Is there anything else
> that need to be done to push the new package to rawhide (in addition
> to
> a successful Koji build)?
> 
> Marcin
> 
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Re: F28 System Wide Change: AArch64 Server Promotion

[Dennis Gilmore]

El lun, 08-01-2018 a las 09:16 -0800, Adam Williamson escribió:
> On Mon, 2018-01-08 at 14:40 +0100, Jan Kurik wrote:
> > 
> > == Scope ==
> > * Proposal owners:
> > The general AArch64 support is already in place and is widely and
> > actively supported by the Fedora ARM SIG and numerous ARM vendors
> > and
> > third parties in Fedora. There will be further and wider support,
> > hardware enablement, polish and general improvements.
> > 
> > * Other developers:
> > N/A: There's no work required for other developers, the aarch64
> > architecture is already widely supported as an Alternate
> > Architecture.
> > 
> > * Release engineering:
> > Needs approval from release engineering as a primary architecture
> > as
> > well as pungi configuration changes to output artifacts to new
> > location on the primary mirror.
> > rel-eng ticket #7243: https://pagure.io/releng/issue/7243
> > 
> > * Policies and guidelines:
> > Updates to the primary architectures and release blocking details
> > will
> > need to be updated to reflect that the AArch64 Server/Cloud/Docker
> > components are now considered primary.
> > 
> > * Trademark approval:
> > N/A (not needed for this Change)
> 
> A significant miss here is 'testing'. Making an arch primary means we
> need to ensure we have the necessary resources to run all the
> relevant
> validation testing.
> 
> I note pwhalen is a co-owner of the proposal so he's likely signed up
> to ensure testing gets done, but still, it should be properly covered
> in the Change document itself.
> 
> As a further note, almost all the Server validation for x86_64 is
> done
> by openQA; doing it manually can be a considerable pain, as you have
> to
> set up a mini FreeIPA deployment. It would probably be best if we add
> aarch64 workers to the Fedora openQA deployment to run these tests on
> aarch64; we've already extended openQA (staging) to ppc64, so all the
> bits should be in place for us to add another arch, pretty much. I'm
> going to follow up on this with pwhalen.
> 
> Another consideration would be whether we ought to also have aarch64
> support in Taskotron, if it's going to become a primary arch. I'm not
> actually sure if Taskotron currently covers 32-bit ARM, though, even.

currently taskotron is x86 only.  I am not sure what it would take to
extend it beyond x86, it would be a worthwhile investigation. It would
be useful to have all arches in openQA regardless of primary or
secondary status. I would like to see openQA working for aarch64 in
Fedora's instance a hard requirement of this change.

Dennis

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[Test-Announce] Announcing the release of Fedora 25 Alpha!

[Dennis Gilmore]

The Fedora Project is pleased to announce the immediate availability of the 
Fedora 25 Alpha, an important milestone on the road to our Fedora 25 release 
in November.


Download the prerelease from our Get Fedora site:

* https://getfedora.org/en/workstation/prerelease/
* https://getfedora.org/en/server/prerelease/
* https://getfedora.org/en/cloud/prerelease/

Or, check out one of our popular variants:

* https://spins.fedoraproject.org/prerelease
* https://labs.fedoraproject.org/prerelease
* https://arm.fedoraproject.org/prerelease


== Alternative Architectures ==

We are also simultaneously releasing the F25 Alpha for Power64 and 64-bit ARM 
(AArch64). These are available from:

https://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora-secondary/releases/test/
25_Alpha/

== What is the Alpha release? ==

The Alpha release contains all the features of Fedora 25's editions in a form 
that anyone can help test. This testing, guided by the Fedora QA team, helps 
us target and identify bugs. When these bugs are fixed, we make a Beta release 
available. A Beta release is code-complete and bears a very strong resemblance 
to the third and final release. The final release of Fedora 25 is expected in 
November. If you take the time to download and try out the Alpha, you can 
check and make sure the things that are important to YOU are working. Every 
bug you find and report doesn't just help you, it improves the experience of 
millions of Fedora users worldwide! Together, we can make Fedora rock-solid. 
We have a culture of coordinating new features and pushing fixes upstream as 
much as we can, and your feedback improves not only Fedora, but Linux and Free 
software as a whole.

* https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/25/Schedule

== Issues and Details ==

Since this is an alpha release, we expect that you may encounter bugs or 
missing features. To report issues encountered during testing, contact the 
Fedora QA team via the mailing list or in #fedora-qa on Freenode. As testing 
progresses, common issues are tracked on the Common F25 Bugs page.

* https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F25_bugs

For tips on reporting a bug effectively, read "how to file a bug report".

* https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_file_a_bug_report

== Release Schedule ==

The full release schedule is available on the Fedora wiki:

* https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/25/Schedule

The current schedule calls for a beta release towards the middle of October, 
and the final release in November. Be aware that these dates are development 
targets. Some projects release on a set date regardless of feature 
completeness or bugs; others wait until certain thresholds for functionality 
or testing are met. Fedora uses a hybrid model, with milestones subject to 
adjustment. This allows us to make releases with new features and newly-
integrated and updated upstream software while also retaining high quality.


Enjoy

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[Test-Announce] Announcing the release of Fedora 25 Alpha!

[Dennis Gilmore]

The Fedora Project is pleased to announce the immediate availability of the 
Fedora 25 Alpha, an important milestone on the road to our Fedora 25 release 
in November.


Download the prerelease from our Get Fedora site:

* https://getfedora.org/en/workstation/prerelease/
* https://getfedora.org/en/server/prerelease/
* https://getfedora.org/en/cloud/prerelease/

Or, check out one of our popular variants:

* https://spins.fedoraproject.org/prerelease
* https://labs.fedoraproject.org/prerelease
* https://arm.fedoraproject.org/prerelease


== Alternative Architectures ==

We are also simultaneously releasing the F25 Alpha for Power64 and 64-bit ARM 
(AArch64). These are available from:

https://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora-secondary/releases/test/
25_Alpha/

== What is the Alpha release? ==

The Alpha release contains all the features of Fedora 25's editions in a form 
that anyone can help test. This testing, guided by the Fedora QA team, helps 
us target and identify bugs. When these bugs are fixed, we make a Beta release 
available. A Beta release is code-complete and bears a very strong resemblance 
to the third and final release. The final release of Fedora 25 is expected in 
November. If you take the time to download and try out the Alpha, you can 
check and make sure the things that are important to YOU are working. Every 
bug you find and report doesn't just help you, it improves the experience of 
millions of Fedora users worldwide! Together, we can make Fedora rock-solid. 
We have a culture of coordinating new features and pushing fixes upstream as 
much as we can, and your feedback improves not only Fedora, but Linux and Free 
software as a whole.

* https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/25/Schedule

== Issues and Details ==

Since this is an alpha release, we expect that you may encounter bugs or 
missing features. To report issues encountered during testing, contact the 
Fedora QA team via the mailing list or in #fedora-qa on Freenode. As testing 
progresses, common issues are tracked on the Common F25 Bugs page.

* https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F25_bugs

For tips on reporting a bug effectively, read "how to file a bug report".

* https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_file_a_bug_report

== Release Schedule ==

The full release schedule is available on the Fedora wiki:

* https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/25/Schedule

The current schedule calls for a beta release towards the middle of October, 
and the final release in November. Be aware that these dates are development 
targets. Some projects release on a set date regardless of feature 
completeness or bugs; others wait until certain thresholds for functionality 
or testing are met. Fedora uses a hybrid model, with milestones subject to 
adjustment. This allows us to make releases with new features and newly-
integrated and updated upstream software while also retaining high quality.


Enjoy

Fedora Release Engineering
(Dennis, Peter, Kevin, Mohan, Adam, Randy)

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Re: Fedora Rawhide-20160711.n.0 compose check report

[Dennis Gilmore]

On Monday, July 11, 2016 11:38:18 AM CDT Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Mon, 2016-07-11 at 11:43 +, Fedora compose checker wrote:
> > Missing expected images:
> > 
> > Kde live i386
> > Server dvd i386
> > Server boot x86_64
> > Server dvd x86_64
> > Kde live x86_64
> > Cloud_base raw-xz x86_64
> > Cloud_base raw-xz i386
> > Server boot i386
> > Atomic raw-xz x86_64
> > Kde raw-xz armhfp
> > Minimal raw-xz armhfp
> > 
> > Failed openQA tests: 2/7 (x86_64)
> > 
> > ID: 25142   Test: x86_64 Workstation-live-iso install_default@uefi
> > URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/25142
> > ID: 25148   Test: x86_64 Atomic-boot-iso install_default
> > URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/25148
> > 
> > Passed openQA tests: 5/7 (x86_64), 1/1 (i386)
> 
> There've been very small numbers of tests for the last few days because
> all installer ISO composes have failed, so the bulk of the tests (which
> run on those images) cannot run. I'm hoping releng will figure out
> what's going wrong with the composes soon.

It is a bug in lorax and will be fixed when lorax is updated, however i 
suspect that the last dnf update may cause issues due to comps still not 
supporting defining packages just for some arches

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[Test-Announce] Reminder: Fedora 22 end of life 2016-07-19

[Dennis Gilmore]

Greetings.

This is a reminder email about the end of life process for Fedora 22.

Fedora 22 will reach end of life on 2016-07-19, and no further updates
will be pushed out after that time. Additionally, with the recent
release of Fedora 24, no new packages will be added to the Fedora 22
collection.

Please see https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DNF_system_upgrade for more
information on upgrading from Fedora 22 to a newer release.

Dennis
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[Test-Announce] Announcing the release of Fedora 24 Beta!

[Dennis Gilmore]

The Fedora 24 Beta is here, on schedule for our planned June final
release. Download the prerelease from our Get Fedora site:

-   Get Fedora 24 Beta Workstation: a reliable, user-friendly, and powerful
operating system for your laptop or desktop computer
https://getfedora.org/workstation/prerelease/ 

-   Get Fedora 24 Beta Server: make use of the very latest server-based
technologies available in the open source community
https://getfedora.org/server/prerelease/

-   Get Fedora 24 Beta Cloud: build scale-out computing and utilize the next
generation of container deployment technology
https://getfedora.org/cloud/prerelease/ 

-   Get Fedora 24 Beta Spins: alternative desktops for Fedora
https://spins.fedoraproject.org/prerelease

-   Get Fedora 24 Beta Labs: curated bundles of purpose-driven software and
content
https://labs.fedoraproject.org/prerelease

-   Get Fedora 24 Beta ARM: Fedora tailored for running on ARM-based devices
https://arm.fedoraproject.org/prerelease

What is the Beta release?
-

The Beta release contains all the exciting features of Fedora 24's
editions in a form that anyone can help test. This testing, guided by
the Fedora QA team, helps us target and identify bugs from the Alpha
version. When most of these bugs are fixed, we make a Beta release
available. A Beta release is code-complete and bears a very strong
resemblance to the third and final release. The final release of Fedora
24 is expected in June. We need your help to make Fedora 24 the best
yet. Please take some time to download and try out the Beta and make
sure the things that are important to you are working. If you find a
bug, please report it – every bug you uncover is a chance to improve the
experience for millions of Fedora users worldwide. This is a great
opportunity for non-programmers to contribute back to fedora. Together,
we can make Fedora rock-solid. We have a culture of adding new features
to software and pushing fixes to the upstream developers at the same
time. This means your feedback will help improve not only Fedora but
Linux and free software on the whole.

-   
-   

Fedora-Wide Changes
---

Under the hood, glibc has moved to 2.23. This update includes better
performance, increased security, bugfixes, improvements to POSIX
compliance, and additional locales. The new library is backwards
compatible with the version of glibc that was shipped in Fedora 23.
We've also updated the system compiler to GCC 6 and rebuilt all of our
packages with it, providing greater code optimization and improved
program error catching.

Workstation
---

The Fedora 24 Workstation release will not default to Wayland, the next
generation graphic stack, but this is planned for future releases.
Wayland is available as an option, and the Workstation team would
greatly appreciate your help in testing it out. Our goal is to have one
full release where Wayland works almost seamlessly as a drop in
replacement for X11. At that point we plan to set it as the default
display server in Fedora. This new release also features GNOME 3.20.
There have been changes to the theming API in GTK+ 3. At this time the
API is under heavy development and will not remain stable. As a result,
applications that use custom CSS theming for example, may have rendering
issues. This could include default applications that come with Fedora 24
Beta Workstation. We request that users try out their favorite GTK+ 3
based applications and report bugs to the upstream developers so they
can be fixed in time for the final release.

Server
--

Fedora 24 beta server edition has also been more streamlined. Unnecessary
packages were removed and the installer has a smaller footprint. FreeIPA
4.3, an integrated security information management solution is now
included. The installation of replicas is streamlined by adding a
replica promotion method for new installs. A new topology plugin has
also been added to this version of FreeIPA that automatically manages
new replication segment creation. An effective replica topology
visualization tool is now available in the webUI.

Cloud
-

We are working hard to make Fedora the best platform for containerized
applications, from base Fedora container images to a full-featured
platform as a service to run and manage them. To meet this goal, we are
packaging OpenShift Origin so it is easy to deploy. OpenShift Origin is
a distribution of Kubernetes, a container cluster manager from Google.
It is optimized for enterprise application development and deployment.
Origin makes it easy for developers to get started building applications
in containers and for operators to manage them.

Spins and Labs
--

Fedora Spins is an alternative Fedora version that offers alternative
desktop environments to the standard Fedora Workstation. 

[Test-Announce] Re: Fedora 24 Beta Freeze

[Dennis Gilmore]

On Tuesday, April 19, 2016 11:52:30 AM CDT Dennis Gilmore wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> Today is an important day on the Fedora 24 schedule[1], with two significant
> cut-offs.
> 
> Today is the Beta freeze[2]. This means that only packages which fix
> accepted blocker or freeze exception bugs[3][4] will be marked as 'stable'
> and included in the Beta composes. Other builds will remain in
> updates-testing until the Beta release is approved, at which point the Beta
> freeze is lifted and packages can move to 'stable' as usual until the Final
> freeze.
> 
> Finally, Today is the '100% code complete deadline' Change Checkpoint[8],
> meaning that Fedora 23 Changes must now be code complete, meaning all the
> code required to enable to the new change is finished. The level of code
> completeness is reflected as tracker bug state ON_QA. The change does not
> have to be fully tested by this deadline'.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Dennis
> 
> [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/23/Schedule
> [2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Milestone_freezes
> [5] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_blocker_bug_process
> [6] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_freeze_exception_bug_process
> [8] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Policy

the schedule of course is at 

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/24/Schedule and you need to have your 
Fedora 24 Changes code complete 

Dennis

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[Test-Announce] Announcing the release of Fedora 24 Alpha!

[Dennis Gilmore]

The Fedora 24 Alpha is here, right on schedule for our planned June
final release. Download the prerelease from our Get Fedora site:

- Get Fedora 24 Alpha Workstation https://getfedora.org/en/workstation/
prerelease/
- Get Fedora 24 Alpha Server https://getfedora.org/en/server/prerelease/
- Get Fedora 24 Alpha Cloud https://getfedora.org/en/cloud/prerelease/
- Get Fedora 24 Alpha Spins https://spins.fedoraproject.org/prerelease 
- Get Fedora 24 Alpha Labs https://labs.fedoraproject.org/prerelease 
- Get Fedora 24 Alpha ARM https://arm.fedoraproject.org/prerelease 


What is the Alpha release?
--
The Alpha release contains all the features of Fedora 24's editions in
a form that anyone can help test. This testing, guided by the Fedora
QA team, helps us target and identify bugs. When these bugs are fixed,
we make a Beta release available. A Beta release is code-complete and
bears a very strong resemblance to the third and final release. The
final release of Fedora 24 is expected in June.

If you take the time to download and try out the Alpha, you can check
and make sure the things that are important to YOU are working. Every
bug you find and report doesn't just help you, it improves the
experience of millions of Fedora users worldwide!

Together, we can make Fedora rock-solid. We have a culture of
coordinating new features and pushing fixes upstream as much as we
can, and your feedback improves not only Fedora, but Linux and Free
software as a whole.

* https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/24/Schedule
* https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_file_a_bug_report


Fedora-Wide Changes
---
Under the hood, glibc has moved to 2.23.  The update includes better
performance, many bugfixes and improvements to POSIX compliance, and
additional locales. The new library is backwards compatible with the
version of glibc that was shipped in Fedora 23, and includes a number
of security and bug fixes.

We've also updated the system compiler to GCC 6 and rebuilt all
packages with that, providing greater code optimization and catching
programming errors which had slipped past previous compilers.

Workstation
---
- Workstation features a preview of GNOME 3.20, which was released
  just after the Alpha was cut. The GNOME 3.20 release is already
  available in the Fedora 24 update stream. Once you install Fedora 24
  Alpha, you can use Software or dnf to update. GNOME 3.20 will of
  course be part of Fedora 24 Beta and the Final release.

- We have decided not to make Wayland, the next generation graphic
  stack, the default in Fedora 24 Workstation. However, Wayland
  remains available as an option, and the Workstation team would
  greatly appreciate your help in testing. Our goal is one full
  release where the non-default Wayland option works seamlessly, or
  reasonably close thereto. At that point we will make Wayland the
  default with X11 as the fallback option.

- There have been many changes to theming in GTK+ 3, where a stable
  API has not been declared. As a result, applications that use custom
  CSS theming, for example, may show issues with their appearance.
  This may include default applications that come with Fedora 24 Alpha
  Workstation. Users are asked to try out their favorite GTK+ 3 based
  applications and report bugs upstream so they might be addressed in
  time for the final release.


Server
--
- FreeIPA 4.3 (Domain Controller role) is included in Fedora 24. This
  version helps streamline installation of replicas by adding a
  replica promotion method for new installs. A new topology plugin has
  also been added that automatically manages new replication segment
  creation. An effective replica topology visualization tool is also
  available in the webUI.

- More packages have been removed from the default Server edition to
  make the footprint of the default installation smaller.


Cloud
-
- For Fedora 24, we're working hard to make Fedora the best platform
  for developing containers, from the base Fedora container images to
  a full-featured PaaS to run and manage them.

- We're packaging OpenShift Origin for Fedora to make it easy to run
  on Fedora. OpenShift Origin is a distribution of Kubernetes
  optimized for enterprise application development and
  deployment. Origin embeds Kubernetes and adds powerful additional
  functionality to deliver an easy to approach developer and operator
  experience for building applications in containers.


Spins and Labs
--
Fedora Spins are alternative desktops for Fedora that provide a
different desktop experience than the standard Fedora Workstation
edition. Fedora Workstation is built on the GNOME desktop environment
and aims to provide a compelling, easy-to-use operating system for
software developers, while also being well-suited to other users. Our
spins showcase KDE Plasma, Xfce, LXDE, Mate-Compiz, Cinnamon, and
Sugar on a Stick (Soas) on the same Fedora Base.

Fedora Labs are collections 

[Test-Announce] Announcing the release of Fedora 24 Alpha!

[Dennis Gilmore]

The Fedora 24 Alpha is here, right on schedule for our planned June
final release. Download the prerelease from our Get Fedora site:

- Get Fedora 24 Alpha Workstation https://getfedora.org/en/workstation/
prerelease/
- Get Fedora 24 Alpha Server https://getfedora.org/en/server/prerelease/
- Get Fedora 24 Alpha Cloud https://getfedora.org/en/cloud/prerelease/
- Get Fedora 24 Alpha Spins https://spins.fedoraproject.org/prerelease 
- Get Fedora 24 Alpha Labs https://labs.fedoraproject.org/prerelease 
- Get Fedora 24 Alpha ARM https://arm.fedoraproject.org/prerelease 


What is the Alpha release?
--
The Alpha release contains all the features of Fedora 24's editions in
a form that anyone can help test. This testing, guided by the Fedora
QA team, helps us target and identify bugs. When these bugs are fixed,
we make a Beta release available. A Beta release is code-complete and
bears a very strong resemblance to the third and final release. The
final release of Fedora 24 is expected in June.

If you take the time to download and try out the Alpha, you can check
and make sure the things that are important to YOU are working. Every
bug you find and report doesn't just help you, it improves the
experience of millions of Fedora users worldwide!

Together, we can make Fedora rock-solid. We have a culture of
coordinating new features and pushing fixes upstream as much as we
can, and your feedback improves not only Fedora, but Linux and Free
software as a whole.

* https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/24/Schedule
* https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_file_a_bug_report


Fedora-Wide Changes
---
Under the hood, glibc has moved to 2.23.  The update includes better
performance, many bugfixes and improvements to POSIX compliance, and
additional locales. The new library is backwards compatible with the
version of glibc that was shipped in Fedora 23, and includes a number
of security and bug fixes.

We've also updated the system compiler to GCC 6 and rebuilt all
packages with that, providing greater code optimization and catching
programming errors which had slipped past previous compilers.

Workstation
---
- Workstation features a preview of GNOME 3.20, which was released
  just after the Alpha was cut. The GNOME 3.20 release is already
  available in the Fedora 24 update stream. Once you install Fedora 24
  Alpha, you can use Software or dnf to update. GNOME 3.20 will of
  course be part of Fedora 24 Beta and the Final release.

- We have decided not to make Wayland, the next generation graphic
  stack, the default in Fedora 24 Workstation. However, Wayland
  remains available as an option, and the Workstation team would
  greatly appreciate your help in testing. Our goal is one full
  release where the non-default Wayland option works seamlessly, or
  reasonably close thereto. At that point we will make Wayland the
  default with X11 as the fallback option.

- There have been many changes to theming in GTK+ 3, where a stable
  API has not been declared. As a result, applications that use custom
  CSS theming, for example, may show issues with their appearance.
  This may include default applications that come with Fedora 24 Alpha
  Workstation. Users are asked to try out their favorite GTK+ 3 based
  applications and report bugs upstream so they might be addressed in
  time for the final release.


Server
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Re: ? wayland live image ?

[Dennis Gilmore]

On Friday, March 25, 2016 12:25:08 AM CDT cornel panceac wrote:
> Hi,
> Is there a Wayland live image available?
> If not, how can one be created?
> Cornel

The workstation Live should be using wayland

Dennis

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Re: how to create grub rescue kernel entry?

[Dennis Gilmore]

On Friday, March 18, 2016 1:47:43 AM CDT Andre Robatino wrote:
> The F24 lives don't contain a rescue kernel or generate the corresponding
> grub entry (see https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1317709 ). Is
> there a way to install the rescue kernel if it was not done during the
> initial install? (The package dracut-config-rescue was not installed, and
> I've installed that manually.) I've nominated this bug as a FE, but it would
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I should be generated when you do a kernel install next.

all it does is copies a kernel and make s a generic initramfs for it. its 
supposed to be a known working kernel.  though I do wonder how my resuce 
kernel from 2013 will do with a fedora 24 system

Dennis

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Re: f24, livecd-tools vs livemedia-creator

[Dennis Gilmore]

appliance-creator which we are still using for arm disk images, uses parts of 
livecd-tools. It need to live on at least one more release.

Dennis

On March 6, 2016 10:57:17 PM CST, Chris Murphy  wrote:
>On Sun, Mar 6, 2016 at 9:09 PM, Adam Williamson
> wrote:
>> On Sun, 2016-03-06 at 16:19 -0700, Chris Murphy wrote:
>>> On Sun, Mar 6, 2016 at 2:27 PM, Chris Murphy
> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > On Sun, Mar 6, 2016 at 1:53 PM, Peter Robinson
> wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > > On Sun, Mar 6, 2016 at 8:15 PM, Chris Murphy
> wrote:
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Possibly three separate questions:
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Which one is now being used to create lives?
>>> > > In F-24+ live-media-creator
>>>
>>> Related question. Is livecd-iso-to-disk effectively deprecated for
>>> creating F24 install media?
>>
>> Not as of now, and AFAIK no-one's suggested it should be. It's a
>> different thing from livecd-creator.
>
>Yeah I thought livecd-tools was going to be retired though, which is
>what litd is part of, since everything else livecd-tools is used for
>is now done by livemedia-creator.
>
>
>>
>> There is a Change to make the new iteration of liveusb-creator the
>> primary downloadable for Workstation, which has implications, but we
>> haven't entirely worked them all out yet.
>
>Looks like 3.90 is current in koji, but is not in bodhi. The most
>recent thing in Fedora 23 repos is 3.14 which is 10 months old. Does
>it make it easier to test if it's in u-t? If so I'll ask mbriza.
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Rawhide Report Rawhide 20160226.n.1

[Dennis Gilmore]

d package:  postgresql-9.5.1-1.fc24
Summary:  PostgreSQL client programs
RPMs: postgresql postgresql-contrib postgresql-devel postgresql-docs 
postgresql-libs postgresql-plperl postgresql-plpython postgresql-plpython3 
postgresql-pltcl postgresql-server postgresql-static postgresql-test 
postgresql-upgrade
Added RPMs:   postgresql-static
Size: 69792874 bytes
Size change:  425830 bytes
Changelog:
  * Fri Feb 26 2016 Pavel Raiskup <prais...@redhat.com> - 9.5.1-2
  - package static libraries without dynamic counterparts (rhbz#784281)


Package:  prunerepo-1.5-1.fc25
Old package:  prunerepo-1.3-1.fc24
Summary:  Remove old packages from rpm-md repository
RPMs: prunerepo
Size: 19154 bytes
Size change:  -1016 bytes
Changelog:
  * Mon Feb 22 2016 clime <cl...@redhat.com> 1.4-1
  - deletion of srpms when the same rpm is present in muliple dirs and --days 
is used fixed

  * Fri Feb 26 2016 clime <cl...@redhat.com> 1.5-1
  - srpm deletion logic changed


Package:  pungi-4.0.6-1.fc25
Old package:  pungi-4.0.5-1.fc24
Summary:  Distribution compose tool
RPMs: pungi
Size: 275934 bytes
Size change:  -3652 bytes
Changelog:
  * Fri Feb 26 2016 Dennis Gilmore <den...@ausil.us> - 4.0.6-1
  - push the 4.0 docs to a 4.0 branch (dennis)
  - [live-images] Rename log file (lsedlar)
  - [buildinstall] Use -dvd- in volume ids instead of -boot- (lsedlar)
  - [buildinstall] Hardlink boot isos (lsedlar)
  - [doc] Write documentation for kickstart Git URLs (lsedlar)
  - [util] Resolve branches in git urls (lsedlar)
  - [live-images] Fix crash when repo_from is not a list (lsedlar)
  - [buildinstall] Don't copy files for empty variants (lsedlar)


Package:  python-futurist-0.13.0-1.fc25
Old package:  python-futurist-0.11.0-1.fc24
Summary:  Useful additions to futures, from the future
RPMs: python2-futurist python3-futurist
Size: 459952 bytes
Size change:  488 bytes
Changelog:
  * Fri Feb 26 2016 Javier Peña <jp...@redhat.com> - 0.13.0-1
  - Update to upstream 0.13.0


Package:  python-mock-1.3.0-1.fc25
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Summary:  A Python Mocking and Patching Library for Testing
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Size change:  68164 bytes
Changelog:
  * Fri Feb 26 2016 Haïkel Guémar <hgue...@fedoraproject.org> - 1.3.0-1
  - Upstream 1.3.0 (RHBZ#1244145)
  - Use epel macros rather than rhel


Package:  python-pycurl-7.43.0-2.fc25
Old package:  python-pycurl-7.43.0-1.fc24
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RPMs: python-pycurl python3-pycurl
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Size change:  -6000 bytes
Changelog:
  * Fri Feb 26 2016 Kamil Dudka <kdu...@redhat.com> - 7.43.0-2
  - require libcurl of the same architecture as python-pycurl


Package:  python-urllib3-1.13.1-3.fc25
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Summary:  Python HTTP library with thread-safe connection pooling and file 
post
RPMs: python-urllib3 python3-urllib3
Size: 250832 bytes
Size change:  -2576 bytes
Changelog:
  * Fri Feb 26 2016 Ralph Bean <rb...@redhat.com> - 1.13.1-3
  - Apply patch from upstream to fix ipv6.


Package:  qmapshack-1.6.0-1.fc25
Old package:  qmapshack-1.5.1-2.fc24
Summary:  GPS mapping and management tool
RPMs: qmapshack
Size: 8171966 bytes
Size change:  1169128 bytes
Changelog:
  * Fri Feb 26 2016 Dan Horák <dan[at]danny.cz> - 1.6.0-1
  - update to 1.6.0


Package:  qt5-qtbase-5.6.0-0.34.rc.fc25
Old package:  qt5-qtbase-5.6.0-0.33.rc.fc25
Summary:  Qt5 - QtBase components
RPMs: qt5-qtbase qt5-qtbase-common qt5-qtbase-devel qt5-qtbase-doc 
qt5-qtbase-examples qt5-qtbase-gui qt5-qtbase-ibase qt5-qtbase-mysql qt5-
qtbase-odbc qt5-qtbase-postgresql qt5-qtbase-static qt5-qtbase-tds qt5-rpm-
macros
Size: 110575246 bytes
Size change:  60 bytes
Changelog:
  * Fri Feb 26 2016 Rex Dieter <rdie...@fedoraproject.org> 5.6.0-0.34.rc
  - qtlogging.ini: remove comments


Package:  quota-4.03-3.fc25
Old package:  quota-4.03-2.fc24
Summary:  System administration tools for monitoring users' disk usage
RPMs: quota quota-devel quota-doc quota-nld quota-nls quota-rpc quota-
warnquota
Size: 1585490 bytes
Size change:  -8968 bytes
Changelog:
  * Mon Feb 22 2016 Petr Pisar <ppi...@redhat.com> - 1:4.03-3
  - Query kernel for next quota on XFS or file system with hidden quota files
(bug #1306195)


Package:  rawstudio-2.1-0.12.20160223git6643b14_rawspeed_5f78369.fc25
Old package:  rawstudio-2.1-0.10.20150511git75ef4c4_rawspeed_4ea46dd.fc24
Summary:  Read, manipulate and convert digital camera raw images
RPMs: librawstudio librawstudio-devel rawstudio
Size: 2854078 bytes
Size change:  -360556 bytes
Changelog:
  * Thu Feb 04 2016 Fedora Release Engineering <rel...@fedoraproject.org> - 
2.1-0.11.20150511git75ef4c4_rawspeed_

Last two days rawhide reports

[Dennis Gilmore]

Hi all,

Please fine the last two days rawhide reports 

https://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/compose/rawhide/Fedora-Rawhide-20160225.n.0/logs/changelog-Fedora-Rawhide-20160225.n.0.verbose
https://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/compose/rawhide/Fedora-Rawhide-20160226.n.0/logs/changelog-Fedora-Rawhide-20160226.n.0.verbose

Thanks

Dennis

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Re: Branched Compose Report 20160225

[Dennis Gilmore]

Sorry the original got truncated

You can find the log at 
https://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/compose/branched/Fedora-24-20160225.n.0/logs/changelog-Fedora-24-20160225.n.0.verbose

OLD: Fedora-24-20160224.n.0
NEW: Fedora-24-20160225.n.0

= SUMMARY =
Added packages:  8
Dropped packages:0
Upgraded packages:   81
Downgraded packages: 0

Size of added packages:  837.52 KiB
Size of dropped packages:0.00 B
Size of upgraded packages:   3.92 GiB
Size of downgraded packages: 0.00 B

Size change of upgraded packages:   -59317432.00 B
Size change of downgraded packages: 0.00 B

= ADDED PACKAGES =
Package: fedora-motd-0.1-1.fc24
Summary: Fedora MOTD
RPMs:fedora-motd
Size:19262 bytes

Package: lz4-java-1.3.0-1.fc24
Summary: LZ4 compression for Java
RPMs:lz4-java lz4-java-javadoc
Size:402788 bytes

Package: mkdocs-basic-theme-1.0.1-2.fc24
Summary: MkDocs Basic Theme
RPMs:mkdocs-basic-theme
Size:15814 bytes

Package: nodejs-number-is-nan-1.0.0-2.fc24
Summary: ES6 Number.isNaN() ponyfill
RPMs:nodejs-number-is-nan
Size:10042 bytes

Package: nodejs-secure-random-1.1.1-1.fc24
Summary: Normalize the creation of cryptographically strong random values
RPMs:nodejs-secure-random
Size:12050 bytes

Package: python-editorconfig-0.12.0-3.fc24
Summary: A Python Based distribution of EditorConfig
RPMs:python2-editorconfig python3-editorconfig
Size:84408 bytes

Package: python-epub-0.5.2-3.fc24
Summary: Python library for reading EPUB files
RPMs:python-epub-doc python2-epub python3-epub
Size:278518 bytes

Package: python-pika_pool-0.1.3-3.fc24
Summary: Pools for pikas
RPMs:python2-pika_pool python3-pika_pool
Size:34740 bytes


= DROPPED PACKAGES =

= UPGRADED PACKAGES =
Package:  ColPack-1.0.10-1.fc24
Old package:  ColPack-1.0.9-6.fc23
Summary:  Algorithms for specialized vertex coloring problems
RPMs: ColPack ColPack-cli ColPack-devel ColPack-doc
Size: 1126188 bytes
Size change:  -11088 bytes
Changelog:
  * Wed Feb 03 2016 Fedora Release Engineering  - 
1.0.9-7
  - Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_24_Mass_Rebuild

  * Wed Feb 24 2016 Björn Esser  - 1.0.9-8
  - fix build with gcc 6 (#1307272)

  * Thu Feb 25 2016 Björn Esser  - 1.0.10-1
  - new upstream release


Package:  appstream-0.9.1-1.fc24
Old package:  appstream-0.9.0-2.fc24
Summary:  Utilities to generate, maintain and access the AppStream Xapian 
database
RPMs: appstream appstream-devel appstream-qt appstream-qt-devel
Size: 6825352 bytes
Size change:  10892 bytes
Changelog:
  * Wed Feb 24 2016 Rex Dieter  0.9.1-1
  - 0.9.1


Package:  arprec-2.2.18-3.fc24
Old package:  arprec-2.2.18-1.fc24
Summary:  Software package for performing arbitrary precision arithmetic
RPMs: arprec arprec-data arprec-devel arprec-doc arprec-tools
Size: 32099258 bytes
Size change:  6872 bytes
Changelog:
  * Wed Feb 03 2016 Fedora Release Engineering  - 
2.2.18-2
  - Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_24_Mass_Rebuild

  * Wed Feb 24 2016 Björn Esser  - 2.2.18-3
  - fix build with gcc 6


Package:  asl-1.42-0.26.bld97.fc24
Old package:  asl-1.42-0.25.bld97.fc23
Summary:  Macro Assembler AS
RPMs: asl
Size: 14375250 bytes
Size change:  3626 bytes
Changelog:
  * Wed Feb 03 2016 Fedora Release Engineering  - 
1.42-0.26.bld97
  - Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_24_Mass_Rebuild


Package:  awstats-7.4-3.fc24
Old package:  awstats-7.4-2.fc24
Summary:  Advanced Web Statistics
RPMs: awstats
Size: 2420374 bytes
Size change:  -2400 bytes
Changelog:
  * Thu Feb 25 2016 Petr Lautrbach  7.4-3
  - replace logos with Copyright and Trademark problem by unknown.png 
(#1196549)


Package:  bluez-5.37-3.fc24
Old package:  bluez-5.37-2.fc24
Summary:  Bluetooth utilities
RPMs: bluez bluez-cups bluez-hid2hci bluez-libs bluez-libs-devel 
bluez-obexd
Size: 4556548 bytes
Size change:  -11260 bytes
Changelog:
  * Wed Feb 03 2016 Fedora Release Engineering  - 
5.37-3
  - Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_24_Mass_Rebuild


Package:  boinc-client-7.6.22-1.fc24
Old package:  boinc-client-7.2.42-7.gitdd0d630.fc24
Summary:  The BOINC client core
RPMs: boinc-client boinc-client-devel boinc-client-doc boinc-client-
static boinc-manager
Size: 7598582 bytes
Size change:  1079452 bytes
Changelog:
  * Sun Jan 31 2016 Germano Massullo  - 
7.2.42-8.gitdd0d630
  - Fixed %{_sysconfdir}/bash_completion.d/ See 
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1192799

  * Wed Feb 03 2016 Fedora Release Engineering  - 
7.2.42-9.gitdd0d630
  - Rebuilt for 

Re: A modest proposal: Pungi 4 compose process (what we call composes, when we do them, what information we need about them)

[Dennis Gilmore]

On Thursday, February 25, 2016 02:57:04 PM Matthew Miller wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 11:34:57AM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > > Maybe I'm Dumb (™), but I'm not following the problem with the
> > > "because". *Shouldn't* the override packages be the equivalent of
> > > stable updates?
> > 
> > No.
> 
> [...]
> 
> > In other cases, though, we need to try out a potential fix for an issue
> > in a compose, but it might not be good. We might spin up the compose
> > and find it broke everything. We definitely *don't* want to be short-
> > circuiting Bodhi for those cases. So long as the 'overridden' package
> > only shows up in the images, we can fairly safely drop it again if it
> > turns out to be bad. If the 'overridden' package also went out to the
> > repos, people following Branched would get it as a regular update, and
> > we then can't just silently pull it because it leaves them out on a
> > limb (we have always resisted doing this very hard in the past; it very
> > occasionally happens, but we always hate doing it, we certainly don't
> > want to make it a part of common practice).
> 
> Well, ugh. Now I understand but am not any happier. :)

In a world where we only push out bits that have passed openqa we should 
detect the types of breakages that we wouldn't want to ship. It really boils 
down to if we put the compose on /pub/fedora or not.

Dennis

> What about having _this_ type of compose be a special outside the
> normal system case, and after testing those separately, go back to the
> other situation (the short circuit)?
> 
> Instead of including overrides in "candidates", include them only in...
> "override tests", which would only be used to test that the particular
> override package was not a terrible idea.
> 
> Then, the _next_ snapshot could be evaluated / validated in full.


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Re: In A World Where...TCs don't exist?

[Dennis Gilmore]

Already added to our next grooming meeting.

On January 29, 2016 7:56:05 PM GMT+01:00, Matthew Miller 
<mat...@fedoraproject.org> wrote:
>On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 10:07:14AM -0600, Dennis Gilmore wrote:
>> > > >   https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5805
>[...]
>> We have none of that info and its not yet on our radar.
>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ReleaseEngineering/PriorityPipeline is
>> the list of things we have coming up. I think there are some not
>> documented as well as they should be.
>
>I think this request just kind of fell through and didn't get included
>in the new prioritization process. Let's get it added in as something
>for _sometime_ in the future, even if it doesn't bump current
>priorities.
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Re: Non-image blocker process change proposal

[Dennis Gilmore]

On Wednesday, December 02, 2015 06:42:09 AM Kamil Paral wrote:
> > > Taking all of this into account, would this be a reasonable idea?
> > > 1. At Go/No-Go voting time, all updates which block F-N release but
> > > belong to F-M (M > > is not the case and it's the last blocking issue, selected tasks
> > > (like copying compose trees into appropriate places) can be
> > > performed, and Go/No-Go will be rescheduled to the day and time when
> > > it is expected that those updates will have been pushed.
> > 
> > I think thats not a great idea. It gets back to why we only slip in one
> > week increments. If say we have a go/no-go on a thursday and the only
> > thing blocking it is some update thats not pushed stable all the way
> > yet, we reschedule for friday and if it's not done then we schedule for
> > saturday? This means everyone has to work extra hours without even
> > being sure when the release will be.
> 
> If the update is pending stable and just not pushed, it might sense to move
> it one day, yes (most probably skipping weekends, though). If it needs more
> testing, we might decide to postpone it a several days. If it's not
> available at all yet, waiting an extra week might be the right choice. So
> it would depend on the situation and best guess of folks at Go/No-Go.

I am with Kevin here, we have things tightly coupled with mirrors and 
mirroring, making changes by a day or two throws timings way off.  purely 
because we have a built in sync buffer of the weekend. To slip the go/no go 
decision to Monday we would need to push out the ship date from Tuesday to 
Friday to give mirrors syncing time and that is making things somewhat tight. 
We really need to slip a week for any slip

> > Leaves less time to sync mirrors,
> > update common bugs, etc etc.
> 
> I would say the opposite - all of that can start happening right away, it's
> not blocked on waiting for the FN-x push. So in case the announcement gets
> out on Tuesday as usual, it's the same time, but if it gets pushed back to
> Wednesday or later day, it's more time for these tasks to happen. The only
> exception is that FN-x updates repo, which will get shorter sync time
> because we want to make sure people download the fixed packages, not old
> ones. Currently that behavior is undefined.

we can not put the bits onto the mirrors until we are sure they are the bits, 
otherwise we offer the mirrors lots of churn, wasted iops and bandwidth and we 
lose mirrors.

> > So, the alternative there would be to slip a week to get it pushed, but
> > some people may find that excessive.
> 
> That's why I wanted to propose something more flexible, but hey, it's just
> an idea.

In order to be more flexible here we would really need to change fundamentally 
how we push bits to the mirrors.  If we had a CDN of our own under our control 
we would have more options available, but the cost of that would be massive.
 
> > > 2. We will
> > > create a new mirrormanager script which will go through the specified
> > > metalink(s) and remove all metadata hashes which are older than
> > > provided timestamp/hash.
> > 
> > Something like that should be pretty easy to do I would think.
> > (Although I am not a mm developer)
> 
> Looking into existing MM scripts, I have the same opinion, but I can contact
> Adrian to confirm. If we want to make it even simpler, we can drop all
> alternative metadata and leave just the current hash (that script would be
> run once the push containing that critical update is performed).
I am okay with having a way to say ship only the latest metadata.

> > > 3. If there are such updates as mentioned in
> > > point 1., RelEng will use this script to remove old metadata
> > > alternatives from the metalink, which means only metadata from the
> > > day this update was pushed or newer will be kept. In order to not
> > > increase mirror strain too much, this doesn't need to be used
> > > immediately, but just shortly before the release announcement (so
> > > that mirrors have time to sync latest packages, and the user load is
> > > distributed among more mirrors including those with current-1 or
> > > current-2 trees as long as possible). 4. Once the script is run in
> > > point 3., we can post the release announcement in 6 hours.
> > > 
> > > I know there still one manual step involved (figuring out in which
> > > push the blocker update was included), but I don't know how to better
> > > solve it, especially if we don't want to wait for too long.
> > > 
> > > I would be interested in Infra/RelEng feedback for the technical part
> > > of this (CCing Kevin and Dennis). Do you think this is reasonable
> > > solution, or am I completely off the track here? Do you see any
> > > better options?
> > 
> > So, looking back, we had the case of that dnf-system-upgrade. Are there
> > any others in the past, or are we making a bigger than life deal out of
> > one case?
> 
> I don't want to 

[Test-Announce]Fedora 21 End Of Life

[Dennis Gilmore]

As of the 1st of December 2015, Fedora 21 has reached its end of life for
updates and support. No further updates, including security updates,
will be available for Fedora 21. A previous reminder was sent on
27th of May [0].

Fedora 22 will continue to receive updates until approximately one
month after the release of Fedora 24.  The maintenance schedule of
Fedora releases is documented on the Fedora Project wiki [1].  The
Fedora Project wiki also contains instructions [2] on how to upgrade
from a previous release of Fedora to a version receiving updates.

Dennis

[0]
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/announce%40lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/QCFQCN7JCRCNPD46UK5IAAJJHPRLYVK4/
[1]
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Release_Life_Cycle#Maintenance_Schedule
[2] 
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DistributionUpgrades

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Re: [F24 Criteria Change] Cockpit Release Criteria

[Dennis Gilmore]

On Thursday, October 22, 2015 02:35:11 PM Stephen Gallagher wrote:
> Recently, we discovered a bug in gnutls that caused Cockpit to be
> unreachable by recent versions of Google Chrome. It was ambiguous what
> the release criteria actually means, since it didn't specify which
> browser applications were blocking. I'd like to propose the following
> additional wording for Cockpit criteria:
> 
> * All Cockpit functional criteria must be satisfied when the user is
> running any of the following blocking browsers:
>  - Mozilla Firefox as shipped in the same Fedora release
>  - Mozilla Firefox of the latest available version on Windows at
>compose time.
>  - Mozilla Firefox of the latest available version on OSX at compose
>time.
>  - Google Chrome of the latest available version on Fedora at compose
>time.
>  - Google Chrome of the latest available version on Windows at compose
>time.
>  - Google Chrome of the latest available version on OSX at compose time.
> 
> 
> Alternately, we could decide that it's only *blocking* if the above
> browsers work with Cockpit when the browser is running on Fedora, but
> that is somewhat at odds with our reasoning for having a management
> console as a web UI in the first place: that it is accessible
> regardless of the client system.

I think that it is fine. But you need to make sure you have resources 
available to test on Windows and OS X. I wonder what can be done to do 
automated testing on the platforms to ensure things work. I would like to have 
us try and automate most if not all of the validation,  at least in a basic 
level.

Dennis 


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[Test-Announce] Announcing the release of Fedora 23 Beta!

[Dennis Gilmore]

Fedora 23 Beta Release Announcement
===

The Fedora 23 Beta is here, right on schedule for our planned
October final release! Want to help make Fedora 23 be the best
release ever, or just want to get a sneak peek? Download the
prerelease from our Get Fedora site and give it a whirl:

-   Get Fedora 23 Beta Workstation — a reliable, user-friendly, and
powerful operating system for your laptop or desktop computer
https://getfedora.org/en/workstation/prerelease/

-   Get Fedora 23 Beta Server — make use of the very latest
server-based technologies available in the open source community
https://getfedora.org/en/server/prerelease/

-   Get Fedora 23 Beta Cloud — build scale-out computing and utilize
the next generation of container deployment technology
https://getfedora.org/en/cloud/prerelease/

-   Get Fedora 23 Beta Spins — alternative desktops for Fedora
https://spins.fedoraproject.org/prerelease

-   Get Fedora 23 Beta Labs — curated bundles of purpose-driven
software and content
https://labs.fedoraproject.org/prerelease


What is the Beta release?
-

The Beta release contains all the exciting features of Fedora 23's
editions in a form that anyone can help test. This testing, guided
by the Fedora QA team, helps us target and identify bugs. When
these bugs are fixed, we make a Beta release available. A Beta
release is code-complete and bears a very strong resemblance to the
third and final release. The final release of Fedora 23 is expected
in October.

We need your help to make Fedora 23 the best yet, so please take
some time to download and try out the Beta and make sure the things
that are important to you are working. If you find a bug, please
report it – every bug you uncover is a chance to improve the
experience for millions of Fedora users worldwide.

Together, we can make Fedora rock-solid. We have a culture of
coordinating new features and pushing fixes upstream as much as
feasible, and your feedback will help improve not only Fedora but
Linux and free software on the whole.


Fedora-Wide Changes
---

Fedora 23 includes a number of changes that will improve all of the
editions. For example, Fedora 23 makes use of compiler flags to
improve security by "hardening" the binaries against memory
corruption vulnerabilities, buffer overflows, and so on. This is a
"behind the scenes" change that most users won't notice through
normal use of a Fedora edition, but will help provide additional
system security.

Likewise, Fedora 23 has disabled SSL3 and RC4 by default due to
known vulnerabilities in the protocols. This means all applications
that use GNUTLS and OpenSSL libraries have had the SSL3 protocol
and RC4 cipher disabled.

Fedora 23 comes with the latest version of Mono 4. This means a big
improvement because we were stuck with an ancient version of Mono
(2.10) for too long. All packages within Fedora that are based on
Mono have been adjusted and rebuilt, to target the 4.5 version of
the .Net framework. Mono 4 does not support solutions targeting
v1.0, v2.0 or v3.5 of .Net, but usually they can be easily upgraded
to v4.5.

Fedora 23 Beta also includes support for Unicode 8.0, which
includes new emojis, and improvements in sorting Unicode text and
processing non-ASCII URLs.


Fedora Server
-

The Fedora Server release includes a number of interesting changes
and additions.

The rolekit service now supports setting up three roles. In
addition to the previously supported Domain Controller (powered by
FreeIPA abd Database Server (powered by PostgreSQL) roles, Fedora
Server 23 features a cache server for web applications (powered by
memcached).

Rolekit can also now be used from the anaconda kickstart by passing
the `--deferred` arguments to `rolectl`. For example: `rolectl
deploy domaincontroller --name=example.com --deferred` will
instruct the system to deploy the Domain Controller role on the
next boot.

The Cockpit Admin Interface in Fedora Server has several big
improvements as well.

-   Support for SSH key authentication
-   Support for configuring user accounts with their authorized keys.
-   Basic cluster dashboard for driving Kubernetes on Fedora Server
and Fedora Atomic Host.
-   Set the imezone for your Fedora Server from the Cockpit User
Interface (UI).
-   Cockpit has also been made safe to use with multipath disks.


Fedora Workstation
--

While there's a lot going on under the hood, desktop users are also
going to find Fedora 23 Beta pretty exciting for all the obvious
goodness coming to the desktop. The easiest way to experience the
preview of these technologies is to download and try the Fedora 23
Beta Workstation edition.

Naturally, GNOME is getting an upgrade, with Fedora 23 containing a
preview of the upcoming GNOME 3.18 release, which is easier to use
than ever. There are also many enhancements on the way, such as:

-   Improvements to 

[Test-Announce] Announcing the release of Fedora 23 Beta!

[Dennis Gilmore]

Fedora 23 Beta Release Announcement
===

The Fedora 23 Beta is here, right on schedule for our planned
October final release! Want to help make Fedora 23 be the best
release ever, or just want to get a sneak peek? Download the
prerelease from our Get Fedora site and give it a whirl:

-   Get Fedora 23 Beta Workstation — a reliable, user-friendly, and
powerful operating system for your laptop or desktop computer
https://getfedora.org/en/workstation/prerelease/

-   Get Fedora 23 Beta Server — make use of the very latest
server-based technologies available in the open source community
https://getfedora.org/en/server/prerelease/

-   Get Fedora 23 Beta Cloud — build scale-out computing and utilize
the next generation of container deployment technology
https://getfedora.org/en/cloud/prerelease/

-   Get Fedora 23 Beta Spins — alternative desktops for Fedora
https://spins.fedoraproject.org/prerelease

-   Get Fedora 23 Beta Labs — curated bundles of purpose-driven
software and content
https://labs.fedoraproject.org/prerelease


What is the Beta release?
-

The Beta release contains all the exciting features of Fedora 23's
editions in a form that anyone can help test. This testing, guided
by the Fedora QA team, helps us target and identify bugs. When
these bugs are fixed, we make a Beta release available. A Beta
release is code-complete and bears a very strong resemblance to the
third and final release. The final release of Fedora 23 is expected
in October.

We need your help to make Fedora 23 the best yet, so please take
some time to download and try out the Beta and make sure the things
that are important to you are working. If you find a bug, please
report it – every bug you uncover is a chance to improve the
experience for millions of Fedora users worldwide.

Together, we can make Fedora rock-solid. We have a culture of
coordinating new features and pushing fixes upstream as much as
feasible, and your feedback will help improve not only Fedora but
Linux and free software on the whole.


Fedora-Wide Changes
---

Fedora 23 includes a number of changes that will improve all of the
editions. For example, Fedora 23 makes use of compiler flags to
improve security by "hardening" the binaries against memory
corruption vulnerabilities, buffer overflows, and so on. This is a
"behind the scenes" change that most users won't notice through
normal use of a Fedora edition, but will help provide additional
system security.

Likewise, Fedora 23 has disabled SSL3 and RC4 by default due to
known vulnerabilities in the protocols. This means all applications
that use GNUTLS and OpenSSL libraries have had the SSL3 protocol
and RC4 cipher disabled.

Fedora 23 comes with the latest version of Mono 4. This means a big
improvement because we were stuck with an ancient version of Mono
(2.10) for too long. All packages within Fedora that are based on
Mono have been adjusted and rebuilt, to target the 4.5 version of
the .Net framework. Mono 4 does not support solutions targeting
v1.0, v2.0 or v3.5 of .Net, but usually they can be easily upgraded
to v4.5.

Fedora 23 Beta also includes support for Unicode 8.0, which
includes new emojis, and improvements in sorting Unicode text and
processing non-ASCII URLs.


Fedora Server
-

The Fedora Server release includes a number of interesting changes
and additions.

The rolekit service now supports setting up three roles. In
addition to the previously supported Domain Controller (powered by
FreeIPA abd Database Server (powered by PostgreSQL) roles, Fedora
Server 23 features a cache server for web applications (powered by
memcached).

Rolekit can also now be used from the anaconda kickstart by passing
the `--deferred` arguments to `rolectl`. For example: `rolectl
deploy domaincontroller --name=example.com --deferred` will
instruct the system to deploy the Domain Controller role on the
next boot.

The Cockpit Admin Interface in Fedora Server has several big
improvements as well.

-   Support for SSH key authentication
-   Support for configuring user accounts with their authorized keys.
-   Basic cluster dashboard for driving Kubernetes on Fedora Server
and Fedora Atomic Host.
-   Set the imezone for your Fedora Server from the Cockpit User
Interface (UI).
-   Cockpit has also been made safe to use with multipath disks.


Fedora Workstation
--

While there's a lot going on under the hood, desktop users are also
going to find Fedora 23 Beta pretty exciting for all the obvious
goodness coming to the desktop. The easiest way to experience the
preview of these technologies is to download and try the Fedora 23
Beta Workstation edition.

Naturally, GNOME is getting an upgrade, with Fedora 23 containing a
preview of the upcoming GNOME 3.18 release, which is easier to use
than ever. There are also many enhancements on the way, such as:

-   Improvements to 

[Test-Announce] Fedora 23 Beta Freeze

[Dennis Gilmore]

Hi all,

Tuesday was an important day on the Fedora 23 schedule[1], with two
significant cut-offs. 

Tuesday was the Beta freeze[2]. This means that only packages which
fix accepted blocker or freeze exception bugs[3][4] will be marked as
'stable' and included in the Beta composes. Other builds will remain
in updates-testing until the Beta release is approved, at which point
the Beta freeze is lifted and packages can move to 'stable' as usual
until the Final freeze.

Finally, Tuesday was the '100% code complete deadline' Change Checkpoint[8],
meaning that Fedora 23 Changes must now be ' New accepted changes must be code 
complete, meaning all the code required to enable to the new change is 
finished. The level of code completeness is reflected as tracker bug state 
ON_QA. The change does not have to be fully tested by this deadline'.

Regards

Dennis

[1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/23/Schedule
[2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Milestone_freezes
[5] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_blocker_bug_process
[6] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_freeze_exception_bug_process
[8] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Policy

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[Test-Announce] Fedora 23 Beta Freeze

[Dennis Gilmore]

Hi all,

Tuesday was an important day on the Fedora 23 schedule[1], with two
significant cut-offs. 

Tuesday was the Beta freeze[2]. This means that only packages which
fix accepted blocker or freeze exception bugs[3][4] will be marked as
'stable' and included in the Beta composes. Other builds will remain
in updates-testing until the Beta release is approved, at which point
the Beta freeze is lifted and packages can move to 'stable' as usual
until the Final freeze.

Finally, Tuesday was the '100% code complete deadline' Change Checkpoint[8],
meaning that Fedora 23 Changes must now be ' New accepted changes must be code 
complete, meaning all the code required to enable to the new change is 
finished. The level of code completeness is reflected as tracker bug state 
ON_QA. The change does not have to be fully tested by this deadline'.

Regards

Dennis

[1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/23/Schedule
[2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Milestone_freezes
[5] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_blocker_bug_process
[6] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_freeze_exception_bug_process
[8] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Policy

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[Test-Announce] Fedora 23 Beta Freeze

[Dennis Gilmore]

Hi all,

Tuesday was an important day on the Fedora 23 schedule[1], with two
significant cut-offs.

Tuesday was the Beta freeze[2]. This means that only packages which
fix accepted blocker or freeze exception bugs[3][4] will be marked as
'stable' and included in the Beta composes. Other builds will remain
in updates-testing until the Beta release is approved, at which point
the Beta freeze is lifted and packages can move to 'stable' as usual
until the Final freeze.

Finally, Tuesday was the '100% code complete deadline' Change 
Checkpoint[8],
meaning that Fedora 23 Changes must now be ' New accepted changes must 
be code

complete, meaning all the code required to enable to the new change is
finished. The level of code completeness is reflected as tracker bug 
state

ON_QA. The change does not have to be fully tested by this deadline'.

Regards

Dennis

[1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/23/Schedule
[2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Milestone_freezes
[5] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_blocker_bug_process
[6] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_freeze_exception_bug_process
[8] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Policy
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[Test-Announce] Fedora 23 Beta Freeze

[Dennis Gilmore]

Hi all,

Tuesday was an important day on the Fedora 23 schedule[1], with two
significant cut-offs.

Tuesday was the Beta freeze[2]. This means that only packages which
fix accepted blocker or freeze exception bugs[3][4] will be marked as
'stable' and included in the Beta composes. Other builds will remain
in updates-testing until the Beta release is approved, at which point
the Beta freeze is lifted and packages can move to 'stable' as usual
until the Final freeze.

Finally, Tuesday was the '100% code complete deadline' Change 
Checkpoint[8],
meaning that Fedora 23 Changes must now be ' New accepted changes must 
be code

complete, meaning all the code required to enable to the new change is
finished. The level of code completeness is reflected as tracker bug 
state

ON_QA. The change does not have to be fully tested by this deadline'.

Regards

Dennis

[1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/23/Schedule
[2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Milestone_freezes
[5] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_blocker_bug_process
[6] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_freeze_exception_bug_process
[8] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Policy
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[Test-Announce] Announcing the release of Fedora 23 Alpha!

[Dennis Gilmore]

Fedora 23 Alpha Release Announcement


The Fedora 23 Alpha is here, right on schedule for our planned
October final release. Download the prerelease from our Get Fedora
site:

* Get Fedora 23 Alpha Workstation:
  https://getfedora.org/en/workstation/prerelease/

* Get Fedora 23 Alpha Server:
  https://getfedora.org/en/server/prerelease/

* Get Fedora 23 Alpha Cloud:
  https://getfedora.org/en/cloud/prerelease/

* Get Fedora 23 Alpha Spins:
  https://spins.fedoraproject.org/prerelease


What is the Alpha release?
--

The Alpha release contains all the exciting features of Fedora 23's
editions in a form that anyone can help test. This testing, guided
by the Fedora QA team, helps us target and identify bugs. When
these bugs are fixed, we make a Beta release available. A Beta
release is code-complete and bears a very strong resemblance to the
third and final release. The final release of Fedora 23 is expected
in October.

We need your help to make Fedora 23 the best release yet, so please
take some time to download and try out the Alpha and make sure the
things that are important to you are working. If you find a bug,
please report it – every bug you uncover is a chance to improve the
experience for millions of Fedora users worldwide.

Together, we can make Fedora rock-solid. We have a culture of
coordinating new features and pushing fixes upstream as much as
feasible, and your feedback will help improve not only Fedora but
Linux and free software on the whole.

* https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/23/Schedule
* https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_file_a_bug_report


Fedora-Wide Changes
---

Fedora 23 includes a number of changes that will improve all of the
editions. For example, Fedora 23 is making use of compiler flags to
help improve security by hardening the binaries against memory
corruption vulnerabilities, buffer overflows, and so on. This is a
behind the scenes change that most users won't notice through
normal use of a Fedora edition, but should help provide additional
system security.

Likewise, Fedora 23 has disabled SSL3 and RC4 by default due to
known vulnerabilities in the protocols. This means all applications
that use GNUTLS and OpenSSL libraries have had the SSL3 protocol
and RC4 cipher disabled.

Fedora 23 Alpha also includes support for Unicode 8.0, which
includes new emojis, and improvements in sorting Unicode text and
processing non-ASCII URLs.


Other Notable Changes in the Alpha
--

While there's a lot going on under the hood, desktop users are also
going to find Fedora 23 Alpha pretty exciting for all the obvious
goodness coming to the desktop. The easiest way to experience the
preview of these technologies is to download and try the Fedora 23
Alpha Workstation edition.

Naturally, GNOME is getting an upgrade, with Fedora 23 containing a
preview of the upcoming GNOME 3.18 release, which is easier to use
than ever. There are also many enhancements on the way, such as
improvements to Wayland toward making it the default graphical
server in a future release; support for ambient backlight drivers
for a more responsive display on laptops; and changes to the
Software application so it can update system firmware, and be
smarter about metered Internet connections.

Users that are trying to get a little work done on Fedora will be
happy to see LibreOffice 5 in Fedora 23, which includes a lot of
new features and improvements: style previews in the sidebar,
Word-compatible text highlighting, built-in image crop, UI for data
bars in Calc, support for Time-Stamp Protocol in PDF export,
support for Adobe Swatch Exchange color palettes, import of Apple
Pages files, improved support for HiDPI screens, and significantly
improved support for MS Office formats.


Spins
-

Fedora spins are desktops or package sets for Fedora that provide
a different experience than the standard Fedora Workstation
edition. For instance, the Fedora KDE and Fedora Xfce spins provide
popular alternatives to GNOME for Fedora users who enjoy the KDE or
Xfce experience.

There's a new spin in town for Fedora 23. Want a classic take on a
modern desktop? If so, the Cinnamon spin may just be what you're
hoping to find. Fedora 23 includes a spin that tries to emulate the
GNOME 2 experience using GNOME 3 shell.


Issues and Details
--

This is an Alpha release. As such, we expect that you may encounter
bugs or missing features. To report issues encountered during
testing, contact the Fedora QA team via the mailing list or in
#fedora-qa on freenode.

As testing progresses, common issues are tracked on the Common F23
Bugs page. For tips on reporting a bug effectively, read how to
file a bug report.

* https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F23_bugs
* https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_file_a_bug_report


Release Schedule


The full release schedule is available on the Fedora wiki. The

[Test-Announce] Announcing the release of Fedora 23 Alpha!

[Dennis Gilmore]

Fedora 23 Alpha Release Announcement


The Fedora 23 Alpha is here, right on schedule for our planned
October final release. Download the prerelease from our Get Fedora
site:

* Get Fedora 23 Alpha Workstation:
  https://getfedora.org/en/workstation/prerelease/

* Get Fedora 23 Alpha Server:
  https://getfedora.org/en/server/prerelease/

* Get Fedora 23 Alpha Cloud:
  https://getfedora.org/en/cloud/prerelease/

* Get Fedora 23 Alpha Spins:
  https://spins.fedoraproject.org/prerelease


What is the Alpha release?
--

The Alpha release contains all the exciting features of Fedora 23's
editions in a form that anyone can help test. This testing, guided
by the Fedora QA team, helps us target and identify bugs. When
these bugs are fixed, we make a Beta release available. A Beta
release is code-complete and bears a very strong resemblance to the
third and final release. The final release of Fedora 23 is expected
in October.

We need your help to make Fedora 23 the best release yet, so please
take some time to download and try out the Alpha and make sure the
things that are important to you are working. If you find a bug,
please report it – every bug you uncover is a chance to improve the
experience for millions of Fedora users worldwide.

Together, we can make Fedora rock-solid. We have a culture of
coordinating new features and pushing fixes upstream as much as
feasible, and your feedback will help improve not only Fedora but
Linux and free software on the whole.

* https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/23/Schedule
* https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_file_a_bug_report


Fedora-Wide Changes
---

Fedora 23 includes a number of changes that will improve all of the
editions. For example, Fedora 23 is making use of compiler flags to
help improve security by hardening the binaries against memory
corruption vulnerabilities, buffer overflows, and so on. This is a
behind the scenes change that most users won't notice through
normal use of a Fedora edition, but should help provide additional
system security.

Likewise, Fedora 23 has disabled SSL3 and RC4 by default due to
known vulnerabilities in the protocols. This means all applications
that use GNUTLS and OpenSSL libraries have had the SSL3 protocol
and RC4 cipher disabled.

Fedora 23 Alpha also includes support for Unicode 8.0, which
includes new emojis, and improvements in sorting Unicode text and
processing non-ASCII URLs.


Other Notable Changes in the Alpha
--

While there's a lot going on under the hood, desktop users are also
going to find Fedora 23 Alpha pretty exciting for all the obvious
goodness coming to the desktop. The easiest way to experience the
preview of these technologies is to download and try the Fedora 23
Alpha Workstation edition.

Naturally, GNOME is getting an upgrade, with Fedora 23 containing a
preview of the upcoming GNOME 3.18 release, which is easier to use
than ever. There are also many enhancements on the way, such as
improvements to Wayland toward making it the default graphical
server in a future release; support for ambient backlight drivers
for a more responsive display on laptops; and changes to the
Software application so it can update system firmware, and be
smarter about metered Internet connections.

Users that are trying to get a little work done on Fedora will be
happy to see LibreOffice 5 in Fedora 23, which includes a lot of
new features and improvements: style previews in the sidebar,
Word-compatible text highlighting, built-in image crop, UI for data
bars in Calc, support for Time-Stamp Protocol in PDF export,
support for Adobe Swatch Exchange color palettes, import of Apple
Pages files, improved support for HiDPI screens, and significantly
improved support for MS Office formats.


Spins
-

Fedora spins are desktops or package sets for Fedora that provide
a different experience than the standard Fedora Workstation
edition. For instance, the Fedora KDE and Fedora Xfce spins provide
popular alternatives to GNOME for Fedora users who enjoy the KDE or
Xfce experience.

There's a new spin in town for Fedora 23. Want a classic take on a
modern desktop? If so, the Cinnamon spin may just be what you're
hoping to find. Fedora 23 includes a spin that tries to emulate the
GNOME 2 experience using GNOME 3 shell.


Issues and Details
--

This is an Alpha release. As such, we expect that you may encounter
bugs or missing features. To report issues encountered during
testing, contact the Fedora QA team via the mailing list or in
#fedora-qa on freenode.

As testing progresses, common issues are tracked on the Common F23
Bugs page. For tips on reporting a bug effectively, read how to
file a bug report.

* https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F23_bugs
* https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_file_a_bug_report


Release Schedule


The full release schedule is available on the Fedora wiki. The

Re: [fedora-arm] ARM release-blocking desktop changed to Xfce

[Dennis Gilmore]

On Monday, August 10, 2015 11:39:30 AM Adam Jackson wrote:
 On Sat, 2015-08-08 at 11:27 -0500, Dennis Gilmore wrote:
  It worked in f22 but was a bit slow. Plasmashell is segfaulting and
  the bug filing process does not work.
 
 Do you mean:
 
 a) abrt can't figure out how to file a bug about this
 b) nobody can be bothered to file a bug about this
 c) there is a bug filed and it's not gotten any attention
 
 - ajax
plasmashell explodes, the inbuilt kde bug filer  that loads up fails to be 
able to report a bug. ABRT does not get a look in.

Dennis

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Re: [fedora-arm] ARM release-blocking desktop changed to Xfce

[Dennis Gilmore]

It worked in f22 but was a bit slow. Plasmashell is segfaulting and the bug 
filing process does not work.

Dennis

On August 8, 2015 10:54:48 AM CDT, Rex Dieter rdie...@math.unl.edu wrote:
Adam Williamson wrote:

 ). For those not at
 the meeting and who don't want to read through the whole log, this
has
 been changed on the basis that KDE 5 requires 3D acceleration and
does
 not fully work with llvmpipe (software rendering), and we don't have
 hardware 3D support for any of our supported ARM platforms at this
 time, so it no longer makes any sense for KDE to be the blocking
 desktop for ARM.

This should have been the case already for Fedora 22 as well.  Did it
work 
there and something (recently) regressed or am I missing something?

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[Test-Announce] Fedora 20 End Of Life

[Dennis Gilmore]

As of 23rd of June 2015, Fedora 20 has reached its end of life for
updates and support. No further updates, including security updates,
will be available for Fedora 20. A previous reminder was sent on
27th of May [0].

Fedora 21 will continue to receive updates until approximately one
month after the release of Fedora 23.  The maintenance schedule of
Fedora releases is documented on the Fedora Project wiki [1].  The
Fedora Project wiki also contains instructions [2] on how to upgrade
from a previous release of Fedora to a version receiving updates.

Kevin

[0]
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/announce/2015-May/003267.html
[1]
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Release_Life_Cycle#Maintenance_Schedule
[2] 
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DistributionUpgrades

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Re: conflict between latest fedora-release and systemd (rawhide)

[Dennis Gilmore]

On Thursday, June 11, 2015 01:38:31 PM Stephen Gallagher wrote:
 On Thu, 2015-06-11 at 11:24 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
  On Thu, 11 Jun 2015 11:55:47 -0500
  
  Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to wrote:
   On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 09:27:18 -0600,
   
 Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com wrote:
On Thu, 11 Jun 2015 10:01:04 -0500

Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to wrote:
 That change also caused problems installing stuff with generic
 release that depend on lvm2. For example you can't build a
 generic
 live image that will have anaconda on it for live installs.

Is there a bug? I'm not sure how that happened from this
change...
   
   https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1224561
  
  Ah, nifty. ;(
  
 I think the idea was to have product (edition) dependent
 presets,
 but I don't think the implementation was done well.

No, the idea was to move presets from systemd that didn't want to
have to change them to fedora-release that makes more sense and
is
controlled by more Fedoray folks who can make changes as needed.
   
   fedora-release seems to be getting more complicated. This makes it
   hard for generic-release to stay caught up as a separate package. I
   would like to see generic-release merged into the fedora-release
   source rpm so that it is easier to keep in sync, if that is
   possible
   to do while still solving the trademark problem it is meant to
   solve.
  
  I'm not sure it is, but hopefully we can come up with something.
  
  Perhaps a easier way to merge changes from the fedora-generic one or
  something.
 
 It really *can't* be included in the same source RPM, because remixes
 wouldn't be able to ship the source, then.
 
 However, there's something to be said for including them together in
 the same upstream project and generating separate tarballs from the
 same source.
generic-release is intended to be a template for people making fedora remixes. 
it is not meant to have everything that is in fedora-release or to even really 
be used, the people making the remix should fork it and make the changes they 
desire. I have added the base presets to generic-release and removed all the 
product sub packages.

Dennis

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updates deliverables testing plan

[Dennis Gilmore]

Hi All,

I filed a ticket with FESCo[1] asking that when we get the list of 
deliverables for a release we also list out what deliverables will be updated 
as part of the updates process. during the meeting[2] concerns were raised 
over the ability to get testing done on updated deliverables. So I am here to 
see what we can figure out. I am assuming that the groups wanting the updated 
deliverables will be mostly responsible for testing.

Regards

Dennis

[1] https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1444
[2] 
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2015-05-27/fesco.2015-05-27-18.00.log.html

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[Test-Announce] Reminder: Fedora 20 end of life on 2015-06-23

[Dennis Gilmore]

Greetings.

This is a reminder email about the end of life process for Fedora 20.

Fedora 20 will reach end of life on 2015-06-23, and no further updates
will be pushed out after that time. Additionally, with the recent
release of Fedora 22, no new packages will be added to the Fedora 20
collection.

Please see https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedUp for more
information on upgrading from Fedora 20 to a newer release.


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[Test-Announce] Reminder: Fedora 20 end of life on 2015-06-23

[Dennis Gilmore]

Greetings.

This is a reminder email about the end of life process for Fedora 20.

Fedora 20 will reach end of life on 2015-06-23, and no further updates
will be pushed out after that time. Additionally, with the recent
release of Fedora 22, no new packages will be added to the Fedora 20
collection.

Please see https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedUp for more
information on upgrading from Fedora 20 to a newer release.


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Re: firefox test update missing - bodhi bug?

[Dennis Gilmore]

On Friday, April 24, 2015 11:51:37 AM Adam Williamson wrote:
 On Fri, 2015-04-24 at 10:39 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote:
  https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2015-6615/xulrunner
  -37.0.2-1.fc21,firefox-37.0.2-1.fc21
  
[ https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2015-6615 ]
  
  It is still not found in the updates-testing repo despite bodhi's
  comment
  that it has been pushed on 2015-04-22 22:47:23.
  
  The ticket has been edited while the update was currently being
  pushed.
  A bug in bodhi?
 
 It'd be best to ask releng, they look after this stuff. CCing Dennis.

the issue with firefox was that the submitter added the xulrunner build during 
the pushing to testing which reset something and confused bodhi, it is a long 
standing bug in bodhi where it does not queue up actions while pushes are in 
progress. I unpushed the update in bodhi and resubmitted it for testing. it 
will go out with the next testing push.

Dennis

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[Test-Announce] Announcing the release of Fedora 22 Beta!

[Dennis Gilmore]

Fedora 22 Beta Release Announcement
===

The Fedora 22 Beta release has arrived, with a preview of the latest
free and open source technology under development. Take a peek inside!

-   [Get Fedora 22 Beta
Workstation](https://getfedora.org/en/workstation/prerelease/)
-   [Get Fedora 22 Beta
Server](https://getfedora.org/en/server/prerelease/)
-   [Get Fedora 22 Beta
Cloud](https://getfedora.org/en/cloud/prerelease/)
-   [Get Fedora 22 Beta
Spins](https://spins.fedoraproject.org/prerelease)

What is the Beta release?
-

The Beta release contains all the exciting features of Fedora 22's
editions in a form that anyone can help test. This testing, guided by
the [Fedora QA team](https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA), helps us
target and identify bugs. When these bugs are fixed, we make a Beta
release available. A Beta release is meant to be feature complete and
bears  a very strong resemblance to the third and final release. 
The final release of Fedora 22 is expected in May.

We need your help to make Fedora 22 the best release yet, so please take
some time to download and try out the Beta and make sure the things that
are important to you are working. If you find a bug, please report
it – every bug you uncover (and/or help fix!) is a chance to improve
the experience for millions of Fedora users worldwide.

Together, we can make Fedora rock-solid. We have a culture of
coordinating new features and pushing fixes upstream as much as
feasible, and your feedback will help improve not only Fedora but Linux
and free software on the whole.

### Base platform

-   Faster and better dependency management: yum has been replaced with
dnf as the default package manager. dnf has very similar command
line options and configuration files compared to yum but also has
several major internal changes including using libsolv in
coordination with friends from the openSUSE project for faster and
better dependency management. dnf-yum provides automatic redirection
from yum to dnf in the command line for compatibility. The classic
yum command line tool renamed to yum-deprecated as a transitional
step for tools still using it.

### Fedora 22 Cloud

The Fedora 22 Cloud Edition builds on the work completed during the
Fedora 21 cycle, and brings in a number of improvements that make Fedora
22 a superb choice for running Linux in the cloud.

Ready for the Fedora 22 release, we have:

-   The latest versions of rpm-ostree and rpm-ostree-toolbox. You can
even use rpm-ostree-toolbox to generate your own Atomic hosts from a
custom set of packages.

-   Introduction of the Atomic command line tool to help manage Linux
containers on Atomic Hosts and update Atomic Hosts.

### Fedora 22 Server

Fedora 22 Server Edition brings several changes that will improve Fedora
for use as a server in your environment.

-   Database Server Role: Fedora 21 introduced rolekit, a daemon for
Linux systems that provides a stable D-Bus interface to manage
deployment of server roles. The Fedora 22 release adds onto that
work with a database server role based on PostgreSQL.

-   Cockpit Updates: The Cockpit Web-based management application has
been updated to the latest upstream release which adds many new
features as well as a modular design for adding new functionality.

-   XFS as default filesystem. XFS scales better for servers and can
handle higher storage capacity and we have made it the default
filesystem for Fedora 22 server users. Other filesystems including
ext4 will continue to be supported and the ability to choose them
have been retained.

### Fedora 22 Workstation

As always, Fedora carries a number of improvements to make life better
for its desktop users and developers! Here's some of the goodness you'll
get in Fedora 22 Workstation edition.

Enhancements:

-   The GNOME Shell notification system has been redesigned and subsumed
into the calendar widget.
-   The Terminal now notifies you when a long running job completes.
-   The login screen now uses Wayland by default with automatic fallback
to Xorg when necessary. This is a transitional step towards
replacing Xorg with Wayland by default in the next release and
should have no user visible difference.
-   Installation of GStreamer codecs, fonts, and certain document types
is now handled by Software, instead of gnome-packagekit.
-   The Automatic Bug Reporting Tool (ABRT) now features better
notifications, and uses the privacy control panel in GNOME to
control information sent.

Appearance:

-   The Nautilus file manager has been improved to use GActions, from
the deprecated GtkAction APIs, for a better, more consistent
experience.
-   The GNOME Shell has a refreshed theme for better usability.
-   The Qt/Adwaita theme is now code complete, and Qt notifications have
been improved for smoother experience using 

[Test-Announce] Announcing the release of Fedora 22 Beta!

[Dennis Gilmore]

Fedora 22 Beta Release Announcement
===

The Fedora 22 Beta release has arrived, with a preview of the latest
free and open source technology under development. Take a peek inside!

-   [Get Fedora 22 Beta
Workstation](https://getfedora.org/en/workstation/prerelease/)
-   [Get Fedora 22 Beta
Server](https://getfedora.org/en/server/prerelease/)
-   [Get Fedora 22 Beta
Cloud](https://getfedora.org/en/cloud/prerelease/)
-   [Get Fedora 22 Beta
Spins](https://spins.fedoraproject.org/prerelease)

What is the Beta release?
-

The Beta release contains all the exciting features of Fedora 22's
editions in a form that anyone can help test. This testing, guided by
the [Fedora QA team](https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA), helps us
target and identify bugs. When these bugs are fixed, we make a Beta
release available. A Beta release is meant to be feature complete and
bears  a very strong resemblance to the third and final release. 
The final release of Fedora 22 is expected in May.

We need your help to make Fedora 22 the best release yet, so please take
some time to download and try out the Beta and make sure the things that
are important to you are working. If you find a bug, please report
it – every bug you uncover (and/or help fix!) is a chance to improve
the experience for millions of Fedora users worldwide.

Together, we can make Fedora rock-solid. We have a culture of
coordinating new features and pushing fixes upstream as much as
feasible, and your feedback will help improve not only Fedora but Linux
and free software on the whole.

### Base platform

-   Faster and better dependency management: yum has been replaced with
dnf as the default package manager. dnf has very similar command
line options and configuration files compared to yum but also has
several major internal changes including using libsolv in
coordination with friends from the openSUSE project for faster and
better dependency management. dnf-yum provides automatic redirection
from yum to dnf in the command line for compatibility. The classic
yum command line tool renamed to yum-deprecated as a transitional
step for tools still using it.

### Fedora 22 Cloud

The Fedora 22 Cloud Edition builds on the work completed during the
Fedora 21 cycle, and brings in a number of improvements that make Fedora
22 a superb choice for running Linux in the cloud.

Ready for the Fedora 22 release, we have:

-   The latest versions of rpm-ostree and rpm-ostree-toolbox. You can
even use rpm-ostree-toolbox to generate your own Atomic hosts from a
custom set of packages.

-   Introduction of the Atomic command line tool to help manage Linux
containers on Atomic Hosts and update Atomic Hosts.

### Fedora 22 Server

Fedora 22 Server Edition brings several changes that will improve Fedora
for use as a server in your environment.

-   Database Server Role: Fedora 21 introduced rolekit, a daemon for
Linux systems that provides a stable D-Bus interface to manage
deployment of server roles. The Fedora 22 release adds onto that
work with a database server role based on PostgreSQL.

-   Cockpit Updates: The Cockpit Web-based management application has
been updated to the latest upstream release which adds many new
features as well as a modular design for adding new functionality.

-   XFS as default filesystem. XFS scales better for servers and can
handle higher storage capacity and we have made it the default
filesystem for Fedora 22 server users. Other filesystems including
ext4 will continue to be supported and the ability to choose them
have been retained.

### Fedora 22 Workstation

As always, Fedora carries a number of improvements to make life better
for its desktop users and developers! Here's some of the goodness you'll
get in Fedora 22 Workstation edition.

Enhancements:

-   The GNOME Shell notification system has been redesigned and subsumed
into the calendar widget.
-   The Terminal now notifies you when a long running job completes.
-   The login screen now uses Wayland by default with automatic fallback
to Xorg when necessary. This is a transitional step towards
replacing Xorg with Wayland by default in the next release and
should have no user visible difference.
-   Installation of GStreamer codecs, fonts, and certain document types
is now handled by Software, instead of gnome-packagekit.
-   The Automatic Bug Reporting Tool (ABRT) now features better
notifications, and uses the privacy control panel in GNOME to
control information sent.

Appearance:

-   The Nautilus file manager has been improved to use GActions, from
the deprecated GtkAction APIs, for a better, more consistent
experience.
-   The GNOME Shell has a refreshed theme for better usability.
-   The Qt/Adwaita theme is now code complete, and Qt notifications have
been improved for smoother experience using 

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 22 Beta Test Compose 8 (TC8) Available Now!

[Dennis Gilmore]

On Monday, April 06, 2015 12:02:57 PM Adam Williamson wrote:
 As per the Fedora 22 schedule [1], Fedora 22 Beta Test Compose 8 (TC8)
 is now available for testing.
 
 Release engineering tells me that TC8 is basically the same as TC7,
 but with some parts (images? I think?) that were missing from TC7 due
 to compose issues included. Releng built this on their own initiative,
 we did not request any changes from TC7.

TC7 was missing the arm install trees and all the cloud and docker images. So 
all lives and arm disk images and the i686 and x86_64 install trees should be 
exactly the same contents.

 Content information, including changes, can be found at
  https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/6132#comment:12. Please see
 the following pages for download links and testing instructions.
 Normally dl.fedoraproject.org should provide the fastest download, but
 download-ib01.fedoraproject.org is available as a mirror (with an
 approximately 1 hour lag) in case of trouble. To use it, just replace
 dl with download-ib01 in the download URL.
 
 Installation:
 
 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Installation_Test
 
 Base:
 
 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Base_Test
 
 Workstation and Desktop:
 
 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Desktop_Test
 
 Server:
 
 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Server_Test
 
 Cloud:
 
 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Cloud_Test
 
 Summary:
 
 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Summary
 
 All Beta priority test cases for each of these test pages [2] must
 pass in order to meet the Beta Release Criteria [3]. For the Fedora
 22 cycle we are also trying to run the Final tests at this time, to
 try and identify later release blocker bugs as early as possible.
 
 Help is available on #fedora-qa on irc.freenode.net [4], or on the
 test list [5].
 
 Create Fedora 22 Beta test compose (TC) and release candidate (RC)
 https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/6132
 
 Current Blocker and Freeze Exception bugs:
 http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current
 
 [1]
 http://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-22/f-22-quality-tasks.html
 [2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Release_validation_test_plan
 [3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_22_Beta_Release_Criteria
 [4] irc://irc.freenode.net/fedora-qa
 [5] https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

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Re: Fedora rawhide(f23) Cubox-i 4pro

[Dennis Gilmore]

On Friday, March 13, 2015 07:35:37 PM David Jones wrote:
 Cubox-i 4 pro
 
 Installed Fedora kernel 4.0.0-0.rc3.git1.1.fc23.armv7hl eth0 available
 but no connection.
 
As per http://rglinuxtech.com/?p=1338 modified
 linux/arch/arm/mach-imx/mach-imx6q.c on line 214
Making the modification suggested (in the above article) and
 recompiling the kernel eth0 successfully connects.

hrrm I hope they are sending that patch upstream.

snip
 
 The only problem I have noticed is the kernel list from extlinux.conf
 does not appear, but at least the system boots and after a kernel update
 the new kernel is selected for boot.
Solid Run's u-boot has not been submitted upstream, I am working on pulling 
together patches to enable it in Fedora's u-boot. They do not have extlinux 
support enabled in their u-boot. so you get the fallback of arm-boot-config 
however it doesn't have support for the cubox-i. The best thing that Solid Run 
could do would be to get their devices supported in the upstream projects. 
hopefully soon I will have a working u-boot with extlinux support 

Dennis

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[Test-Announce] Announcing the release of Fedora 22 Alpha!

[Dennis Gilmore]

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Hash: SHA1

Fedora 22 Alpha Release Announcement


The Fedora 22 Alpha release has arrived, with a preview of the latest
free and open source technology under development. Take a peek inside!

  • Get Fedora 22 Alpha Workstation
https://getfedora.org/en/workstation/prerelease/
  
  • Get Fedora 22 Alpha Server
https://getfedora.org/en/server/prerelease/
  
  • Get Fedora 22 Alpha Cloud
https://getfedora.org/en/cloud/prerelease/
  
  • Get Fedora 22 Alpha Spins
https://spins.fedoraproject.org/prerelease

What is the Alpha release?
==

The Alpha release contains all the exciting features of Fedora 22's
editions in a form that anyone can help test. This testing, guided by
the Fedora QA team, helps us target and identify bugs. When these bugs
are fixed, we make a Beta release available. A Beta release is
code-complete and bears a very strong resemblance to the third and
final release. The final release of Fedora 22 is expected in May.

We need your help to make Fedora 22 the best release yet, so please
take some time to download and try out the Alpha and make sure the
things that are important to you are working well. If you find a bug,
please report it – every bug you uncover is a chance to improve the
experience for millions of Fedora users worldwide.

Together, we can make Fedora 22 another rock-solid release. We have a
culture of coordinating new features and pushing fixes upstream as much
as feasible, and your feedback will help improve not only Fedora but
Linux and free software on the whole.

Fedora 22 Cloud
===

The Fedora 22 Cloud Edition builds on the work completed during the
Fedora 21 cycle, and brings in a number of improvements that make
Fedora 22 a superb choice for running Linux in the cloud.

Ready for the Fedora 22 release, we have:

  • The latest versions of rpm-ostree and rpm-ostree-toolbox. You can
even use rpm-ostree-toolbox to generate your own Atomic hosts from
a custom set of packages.

  • A Vagrant image for Fedora 22 Atomic Host and Cloud Images. We're
supplying Vagrant boxes that work with KVM or VirtualBox, so users
on Fedora will be able to easily consume the Vagrant images with
KVM, and users on Mac OS X or Windows can use the VirtualBox image.

  • Tunir: A new, lightweight Continuous Integration (CI) tool for
rapid testing of cloud images. While being driven by the need for
simple CI for the Cloud Working Group, it's generic enough to be
used by anyone to configure and run jobs/tests on their local
system.

Fedora 22 Server


The Fedora 22 Server Edition brings several changes that will improve
Fedora for use as a server in your environment.

  • Database Server Role: Fedora 21 introduced Rolekit, a daemon for
Linux systems that provides a stable D-Bus interface to manage
deployment of server roles. The Fedora 22 release adds onto that
work with a database server role based on PostgreSQL.

  • Cockpit Updates: The Cockpit Web-based management application has
been updated to the latest upstream release which adds many new
features as well as a modular design for adding new functionality.

Fedora 22 Workstation
=

As always, Fedora carries a number of improvements to make life better
for its desktop users! Here's some of the goodness you'll get in Fedora
22 Workstation edition.

Enhancements:

  • The GNOME Shell notification system has been redesigned and
subsumed into the calendar widget.
  • The Terminal now notifies you when a long running job completes.
  • The login screen now uses Wayland by default. This is a step
towards replacing X with Wayland, and users should not actually
notice the difference.
  • Installation of GStreamer codecs, fonts, and certain document types
is now handled by Software, instead of gnome-packagekit.
  • The Automatic Bug Reporting Tool (ABRT) now features better
notifications, and uses the privacy control panel in GNOME to
control information sent.

Appearance:

  • The Nautilus file manager has been improved to use GActions, from
the deprecated GtkAction APIs, for a better, more consistent
experience.
  • The GNOME Shell has a refreshed theme for better usability.
  • The Qt/Adwaita theme is now code complete, and Qt notifications
have been improved for smoother experience using Qt-based apps in
Workstation.

Under the covers:

  • The libinput library is now used for both X11 and Wayland for
consistent input device handling.

Spins

  • Plasma 5, the successor to KDE Plasma 4, is now the default
workspace in the Fedora KDE spin.

  • The Xfce spin has been updated to Xfce 4.12 just in time for the
Alpha release. This release has an enormous number of improvements,
including HiDPI support, improvements to window tiling, support for
Gtk3 plugins, and many improvements for 

[Test-Announce] Announcing the release of Fedora 22 Alpha!

[Dennis Gilmore]

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Hash: SHA1

Fedora 22 Alpha Release Announcement


The Fedora 22 Alpha release has arrived, with a preview of the latest
free and open source technology under development. Take a peek inside!

  • Get Fedora 22 Alpha Workstation
https://getfedora.org/en/workstation/prerelease/
  
  • Get Fedora 22 Alpha Server
https://getfedora.org/en/server/prerelease/
  
  • Get Fedora 22 Alpha Cloud
https://getfedora.org/en/cloud/prerelease/
  
  • Get Fedora 22 Alpha Spins
https://spins.fedoraproject.org/prerelease

What is the Alpha release?
==

The Alpha release contains all the exciting features of Fedora 22's
editions in a form that anyone can help test. This testing, guided by
the Fedora QA team, helps us target and identify bugs. When these bugs
are fixed, we make a Beta release available. A Beta release is
code-complete and bears a very strong resemblance to the third and
final release. The final release of Fedora 22 is expected in May.

We need your help to make Fedora 22 the best release yet, so please
take some time to download and try out the Alpha and make sure the
things that are important to you are working well. If you find a bug,
please report it – every bug you uncover is a chance to improve the
experience for millions of Fedora users worldwide.

Together, we can make Fedora 22 another rock-solid release. We have a
culture of coordinating new features and pushing fixes upstream as much
as feasible, and your feedback will help improve not only Fedora but
Linux and free software on the whole.

Fedora 22 Cloud
===

The Fedora 22 Cloud Edition builds on the work completed during the
Fedora 21 cycle, and brings in a number of improvements that make
Fedora 22 a superb choice for running Linux in the cloud.

Ready for the Fedora 22 release, we have:

  • The latest versions of rpm-ostree and rpm-ostree-toolbox. You can
even use rpm-ostree-toolbox to generate your own Atomic hosts from
a custom set of packages.

  • A Vagrant image for Fedora 22 Atomic Host and Cloud Images. We're
supplying Vagrant boxes that work with KVM or VirtualBox, so users
on Fedora will be able to easily consume the Vagrant images with
KVM, and users on Mac OS X or Windows can use the VirtualBox image.

  • Tunir: A new, lightweight Continuous Integration (CI) tool for
rapid testing of cloud images. While being driven by the need for
simple CI for the Cloud Working Group, it's generic enough to be
used by anyone to configure and run jobs/tests on their local
system.

Fedora 22 Server


The Fedora 22 Server Edition brings several changes that will improve
Fedora for use as a server in your environment.

  • Database Server Role: Fedora 21 introduced Rolekit, a daemon for
Linux systems that provides a stable D-Bus interface to manage
deployment of server roles. The Fedora 22 release adds onto that
work with a database server role based on PostgreSQL.

  • Cockpit Updates: The Cockpit Web-based management application has
been updated to the latest upstream release which adds many new
features as well as a modular design for adding new functionality.

Fedora 22 Workstation
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As always, Fedora carries a number of improvements to make life better
for its desktop users! Here's some of the goodness you'll get in Fedora
22 Workstation edition.

Enhancements:

  • The GNOME Shell notification system has been redesigned and
subsumed into the calendar widget.
  • The Terminal now notifies you when a long running job completes.
  • The login screen now uses Wayland by default. This is a step
towards replacing X with Wayland, and users should not actually
notice the difference.
  • Installation of GStreamer codecs, fonts, and certain document types
is now handled by Software, instead of gnome-packagekit.
  • The Automatic Bug Reporting Tool (ABRT) now features better
notifications, and uses the privacy control panel in GNOME to
control information sent.

Appearance:

  • The Nautilus file manager has been improved to use GActions, from
the deprecated GtkAction APIs, for a better, more consistent
experience.
  • The GNOME Shell has a refreshed theme for better usability.
  • The Qt/Adwaita theme is now code complete, and Qt notifications
have been improved for smoother experience using Qt-based apps in
Workstation.

Under the covers:

  • The libinput library is now used for both X11 and Wayland for
consistent input device handling.

Spins

  • Plasma 5, the successor to KDE Plasma 4, is now the default
workspace in the Fedora KDE spin.

  • The Xfce spin has been updated to Xfce 4.12 just in time for the
Alpha release. This release has an enormous number of improvements,
including HiDPI support, improvements to window tiling, support for
Gtk3 plugins, and many improvements for 

Re: netinst not part of release?

[Dennis Gilmore]

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On Tue, 16 Dec 2014 19:13:08 -0800
Adam Williamson adamw...@fedoraproject.org wrote:

 On Wed, 2014-12-17 at 09:31 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
  I just noticed that the Fedora-Server-netinst.iso appears not to be 
  part of F21 release.  I could not find it listed here 
  http://torrents.fedoraproject.org/.  I sometimes find that iso 
  helpful as one can choose the Base Environment, Add-ons, as well as 
  add language support.
  
  Was this ever meant to be in the final release?  If so, why was it 
  eliminated?
 
 It is part of the release. It's on the downloads page and all the 
 mirrors. I guess there isn't a torrent because it's too small to be 
 worthwhile, either that or it's just an oversight.

we have never shipped torrents for the netinst isos they are so small
that direct download has always been best

Dennis
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[Test-Announce] Reminder: Fedora 19 end of life on 2015-01-06

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Greetings. 

This is a reminder email about the end of life process for Fedora 19.

Fedora 19 will reach end of life on 2015-01-06, and no further updates
will be pushed out after that time. Additionally, with the recent
release of Fedora 21, no new packages will be added to the Fedora 19
collection. 

Please see http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DistributionUpgrades for more
information on upgrading from Fedora 19 to a newer release. 


Dennis
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[Test-Announce] Reminder: Fedora 19 end of life on 2015-01-06

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Greetings. 

This is a reminder email about the end of life process for Fedora 19.

Fedora 19 will reach end of life on 2015-01-06, and no further updates
will be pushed out after that time. Additionally, with the recent
release of Fedora 21, no new packages will be added to the Fedora 19
collection. 

Please see http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DistributionUpgrades for more
information on upgrading from Fedora 19 to a newer release. 


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Re: pungi (updated ... some success)

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On Wed, 26 Nov 2014 15:08:03 -0500
Gene Czarcinski gczarcin...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 11/24/2014 04:14 PM, Gene Czarcinski wrote:
  I know we are into this product-zed stuff with lots of emphasis on 
  Live installs including Live Workstation but when was the last time 
  pungi has been successfully run?  Yes, I know that TC3 was built by 
  something but was pungi involved?  I have been assuming it was but
  I am unable to run it myself.
 
  To keep things simple, I am using 
  /usr/share/spin-kickstarts/fedora-install-server.ks and am only
  doing -G -C -B since I really only want the netinstall.  Also,
  this was done on a fresh install for Workstation TC3 plus mock
  installed.  I run pungi under mock just like it says here: 
  http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_create_a_Fedora_install_ISO_for_testing
 
  The first problem is that the mirrorlist stuff simply does not work 
  and pungi cannot file a good url for fedora.  OK, replace the 
  mirrorlist with baseurl pointing at one of the mirrors (I chose 
  http://mirrors.kernel.org and 
  http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/linux/fedora/).
 
  That gets me further but but it still crashes with:
  doing post-install configuration
  running runtime-postinstall.tmpl
  warning: Schema 'org.gnome.crypto.cache' has path 
  '/desktop/gnome/crypto/cache/'.  Paths starting with '/apps/', 
  '/desktop/' or '/system/' are deprecated.
  warning: Schema 'org.gnome.crypto.pgp' has path 
  '/desktop/gnome/crypto/pgp/'.  Paths starting with '/apps/', 
  '/desktop/' or '/system/' are deprecated.
  warning: Schema 'org.gnome.system.locale' has path 
  '/system/locale/'.  Paths starting with '/apps/', '/desktop/' or 
  '/system/' are deprecated.
  warning: Schema 'org.gnome.system.proxy' has path
  '/system/proxy/'. Paths starting with '/apps/', '/desktop/' or
  '/system/' are deprecated. warning: Schema
  'org.gnome.system.proxy.http' has path '/system/proxy/http/'.
  Paths starting with '/apps/', '/desktop/' or '/system/' are
  deprecated. warning: Schema 'org.gnome.system.proxy.https' has
  path '/system/proxy/https/'.  Paths starting with '/apps/',
  '/desktop/' or '/system/' are deprecated.
  warning: Schema 'org.gnome.system.proxy.ftp' has path 
  '/system/proxy/ftp/'.  Paths starting with '/apps/', '/desktop/'
  or '/system/' are deprecated.
  warning: Schema 'org.gnome.system.proxy.socks' has path 
  '/system/proxy/socks/'.  Paths starting with '/apps/', '/desktop/'
  or '/system/' are deprecated.
  No such key 'button-laytout' in schema 
  'org.gnome.desktop.wm.preferences' as specified in override file 
  '/usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas/org.gnome.desktop.wm.preferences.gschema.override';
   
  ignoring override for this key.
  writing .discinfo file
  backing up installroot
  generating kernel module metadata
  doing depmod and module-info for 3.17.3-300.fc21.x86_64
  cleaning unneeded files
  running runtime-cleanup.tmpl
  creating the runtime image
  losetup: cannot find an unused loop device
  Traceback (most recent call last):
File /usr/bin/pungi, line 300, in module
  main()
File /usr/bin/pungi, line 171, in main
  mypungi.doBuildinstall()
File /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/pypungi/__init__.py,
  line 1414, in doBuildinstall
  workdir=workdir, outputdir=outputdir, volid=volid)
File /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/pylorax/__init__.py,
  line 304, in run
  size=size)
File /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/pylorax/treebuilder.py, 
  line 165, in create_runtime
  label=Anaconda, size=fssize)
File /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/pylorax/imgutils.py,
  line 383, in mkext4img
  mkfsargs=[-L, label, -b, 1024, -m, 0], graft=graft)
File /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/pylorax/imgutils.py,
  line 358, in mkfsimage
  with LoopDev(outfile, size) as loopdev:
File /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/pylorax/imgutils.py,
  line 258, in __enter__
  self.loopdev = loop_attach(self.filename)
File /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/pylorax/imgutils.py,
  line 116, in loop_attach
  dev = runcmd_output([losetup, --find, --show, outfile])
File /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/pylorax/executils.py,
  line 417, in runcmd_output
  return execWithCapture(cmd[0], cmd[1:], **kwargs)
File /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/pylorax/executils.py,
  line 263, in execWithCapture
  raise subprocess.CalledProcessError(proc.returncode,
  [command]+argv) subprocess.CalledProcessError: Command
  '['losetup', '--find', '--show', 
  '//work/Fedora/x86_64/installroot/images/runtime-workdir/LiveOS/rootfs.img']'
   
  returned non-zero exit status 1
  mock-chroot[root@vulture /]# ls -l 
  /work/Fedora/x86_64/installroot/images/runtime-workdir/LiveOS/rootfs.img 
  -h
  -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 2.0G Nov 24 15:36 
  /work/Fedora/x86_64/installroot/images/runtime-workdir/LiveOS/rootfs.img
  mock-chroot[root@vulture /]#
 
 
  I have not bz'ed this yet because it looks like there 

Re: pungi

[Dennis Gilmore]

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On Mon, 24 Nov 2014 15:37:06 -0800
Adam Williamson adamw...@fedoraproject.org wrote:

 On Mon, 2014-11-24 at 23:25 +0100, poma wrote:
  On 24.11.2014 22:35, Adam Williamson wrote:
   On Mon, 2014-11-24 at 16:14 -0500, Gene Czarcinski wrote:
   I know we are into this product-zed stuff with lots of emphasis
   on Live installs including Live Workstation but when was the
   last time pungi has been successfully run?  Yes, I know that TC3
   was built by something but was pungi involved?  I have been
   assuming it was but I am unable to run it myself.
   
   Yes. It always is. There are subtleties to doing Fedora composes,
   though
   - I recommend asking dgilmore or nirik for help if you have
   trouble.
 
  G, do not forget to write the instructions here when you're done,
  man.
 
 There is already an instructions page:
 
 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_create_a_Fedora_install_ISO_for_testing
 
 it likely needs some revisions for the Current Day, though.

Pungi is indeed used in every single compose
https://git.fedorahosted.org/cgit/releng/tree/scripts/run-pungi shows
how we run pungi for Composes.

Dennis
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Re: Resume still broken on Thinkpad X1 Carbon

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On Sat, 8 Nov 2014 16:50:57 -0500
Jonathan Corbet corbet...@lwn.net wrote:

 On Tue, 4 Nov 2014 09:17:25 -0500
 Jonathan Corbet corbet...@lwn.net wrote:
 
  I'm pretty well mystified, but, given my general lack of skills in
  this part of the system, that's not surprising.  My next step,
  perhaps, is to start disabling boot-time unit files until I find
  the one that makes resume work, then try to see what's different
  under F21.
 
 Just in case anybody's curious, systemd-udev-trigger.service seems to
 be the one that makes the difference on F20.  Something is happening
 there that isn't happening the same way under F21, but I've not had a
 chance to delve more deeply into it.
 
 My investigation would be aided if I could get into the emergency or
 rescue targets from the live image.  But that wants the root
 password, and an empty password doesn't fly.  Is there any way to
 boot the live image into one of those modes, or is that completely
 unsupported and out of scope?

just curious is your firmware fully updated? I ask because I gota
carbon X1 about 2 months ago and running f21 for me it suspends and
resumes just fine.

Dennis
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[Test-Announce] Announcing the release of Fedora 21 Beta!

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The Fedora 21 beta release is here, and - as usual - is packed
with amazing improvements to Fedora, as well as fantastic free
and open source software, gently harvested for your enjoyment. No
bits were harmed in the making of this beta.

What is the Beta Release? 
=

The beta release is the last important milestone before the
release of Fedora 21. A Beta release is code-complete and bears a
very strong resemblance to the third and final release. Only
critical bug fixes will be pushed as updates up to the general
release of Fedora 21. The final release of Fedora 21 is
[https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/21/Schedule] expected in
early December. Meanwhile, download the beta of Fedora 21 and
help us make it even better:

http://fedoraproject.org/get-prerelease

We need your help to make Fedora 21 the best release yet, so
please take some time to download and try out the beta and make
sure the things that are important to you are working. If you
find a bug, please report it:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_file_a_bug_report

Every bug you uncover is a chance to improve the experience for 
millions of Fedora users worldwide. Together, we can make Fedora 21
a rock-solid distribution. We have a culture of coordinating new 
features and pushing fixes upstream as much as feasible and your 
feedback will help improve not only Fedora but Linux and free 
software on the whole.

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Staying_close_to_upstream_projects

(See the end of this announcement for more information on how to help.)

Since it's a beta release, some problems may still be lurking. A
list of problems that we already know about can be found at the
Common F21 bugs page:

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F21_bugs

Fedora.Next and Fedora 21 Products 
==

As part of the Fedora.next initiative, Fedora 21 will boast three 
products, Cloud, Server, and Workstation:

* Cloud: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Cloud
* Server: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Server
* Workstation: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Workstation


We encourage you to visit the wiki pages providing the details 
of these individual products for more information.

Spins 
- -

In addition to the new Fedora products, Fedora users also have
the choice of Fedora Spins that highlight user favorites like KDE
Plasma Workspaces, Xfce, LXDE, and Sugar on a Stick (SoaS). If
you're interested in trying out one of the spins, head over to
the prelease page for Fedora Spins and grab the spins you're 
interested in: 

http://fedoraproject.org/get-spin-prerelease

Fedora 21 Base 
- --

Each of the products will build on the base set of packages for
Fedora. For instance, each product will use the same packages for
the kernel, RPM, Yum, systemd, Anaconda, and so forth.

The Base Working Group develops the standard platform for all Fedora 
products, which includes the installer, compose tools, and basic
platform for the other products. The Base set of packages is not a full
product intended for use on its own, but to be kept as a small, stable
platform for other products to build on.

Highlights in the Beta Release
==

In this section, we'll look at some of the things that are new or
interesting in the Beta release.

A Note on Shellshocked
- --

You've probably read all about the Shellshocked vulnerability
in GNU Bash, which affected Fedora 19, 20, and 21 Alpha. Rest
assured that Fedora 21 beta has been patched to close this
vulnerability.

Fedora 21 Cloud
===

The Fedora Cloud Working Group and Special Interest Group (SIG)
has been busy leading up to Fedora 21. Cloud is now a top-level
product for Fedora 21, and will include images for use in private
cloud environments like OpenStack, as well as AMIs for use on
Amazon, and a new image streamlined for running Docker
containers.

Modular Kernel Packaging for Cloud
- --

Space is precious, and there's little reason to include drivers
for hardware that doesn't exist in the cloud. As part of the work
for Fedora 21, the cloud SIG and kernel team split the kernel into 
two packages. One package contains the minimum modules for running 
in a virtualized environment, the other contains the larger set of
modules for a more general installation. As a result, the F21
beta cloud image is 10% smaller than F20, making for faster
deployment.

Fedora Atomic Host
- --

Red Hat announced Project Atomic (http://projectatomic.io/),
in early April of this year as an effort to provide the tools 
and patterns for a streamlined operating system to run Docker 
containers. The Fedora 21 release will be the first to offer 
an Atomic host for Fedora, which includes a minimal set
of packages and an image composed with rpm-ostree.

While using the same RPMs as other Fedora offerings, the Atomic
host will allow users to roll 

[Test-Announce] Fedora 21 Beta Change Freeze

[Dennis Gilmore]

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Hi all,

as the Fedora 21 schedule[1] states the Beta change freeze is upon
us. As of now all Beta freeze only accepted exceptions[2] will be
allowed in. 


we are at the beta stage of release, so the Beta_to_Pre_Release[3]
stage of the updates policy applies. 

Regards

Dennis

[1] http://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-21/f-21-devel-tasks.html
[2] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_freeze_exception_bug_process
[3] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Updates_Policy#Beta_to_Pre_Release
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[Test-Announce] Fedora 21 Beta Change Freeze

[Dennis Gilmore]

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Hi all,

as the Fedora 21 schedule[1] states the Beta change freeze is upon
us. As of now all Beta freeze only accepted exceptions[2] will be
allowed in. 


we are at the beta stage of release, so the Beta_to_Pre_Release[3]
stage of the updates policy applies. 

Regards

Dennis

[1] http://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-21/f-21-devel-tasks.html
[2] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_freeze_exception_bug_process
[3] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Updates_Policy#Beta_to_Pre_Release
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Re: Problem booting/install Fedora-Server-netinst-x86_64-21_Alpha.iso

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On Tue, 30 Sep 2014 10:20:58 -0700
Adam Williamson adamw...@fedoraproject.org wrote:

 On Mon, 2014-09-29 at 23:41 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
  On Mon, 2014-09-29 at 20:32 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
  
 When I tryed to boot the CD on HP Compaq DC5850 it just
 restart again and again (looping). On the Dell Dimension
 3100 it just stoped displaying:

 ISOLINUX 6.02

 There was no problem making netinstall on VM in KVM/qemu.

 So the question is what can be wrong?

 I will burn Fedora-Server-DVD-x86_64-21_Alpha.iso on DVD and
 see if I can install F21-Alpha from thw DVD.

 
 I have now burn the DVD with same result as before.
 
 Are I the onlyone having this problem?
 

Probably no! See

https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test/2014-September/122716.html
   
   That definitely is not the same bug. It occurred much later in
   boot, and anyway its cause was definitely identified and
   definitely does not exist in RC1.
   
or

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1135793.
   
   This one also seems to occur slightly later, and also the
   reporter is booting from USB, not a DVD.
   
   I did not in fact test 21 Alpha on a real silver round spinny
   disc thing (the first build since F12 I haven't tested that
   on :) Did anyone else?
  
  So this is definitely not precisely our finest hour: I've just
  confirmed that neither the Server x64 netinst image nor the
  Workstation x64 live image from Alpha boots on my laptop when
  written to a DVD-R. As described, they hit 'SYSLINUX' then reboot.
 
 For the record, pjones says it works for him, so this seems at least
 to be somehow hardware dependent (and it means that possibly someone
 *did* test it for Alpha, just not someone with an affected system).
 We're continuing to investigate.

I did test the install DVD on a supermicro 1u server I have in the
basement. It doesnt pxe boot at all. It booted and installed fine.

Dennis
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Re: ARM disk image size validation

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On Mon, 29 Sep 2014 16:20:03 -0700
Adam Williamson adamw...@fedoraproject.org wrote:

 On Mon, 2014-09-29 at 14:38 -0500, Dennis Gilmore wrote:
  Hi All,
  
  We have some bugs filed
  https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1142516 and
  https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1142512 to do with ARM
  images being over size.  They do not make any sense because the
  size of the download is really not relevant to anything at all. 
  
  The media are a compressed disk image that you have to uncompress to
  deploy onto a disk/sdcard/usb stick and boot a preinstalled system
  from. The target media size is defined by the size of the
  partitions in the kickstart. we (the arm team) have a maximum size
  of media of 8G 
  
  right now the actual sizes are as follows:
  
  Mate and Workstation have partitioning that is 6G total 512M /boot,
  512M swap and 5000M /
  KDE has partitioning that is 5G Total 512M /boot, 512M swap, and
  4000M / LXDE and SoaS have partitioning that is 4G total
  512M /boot, 512M swap and 3000M /
  Minimal has partitioning that is 2G total 512M /boot, 128M swap and
  1400M /
  
  The ARM disk image that roughly matches a live image iso for a spin
  that fits on a 1G usb stick, will never fit on a 1G stick as
  it has to be uncompressed to be usable and it will need 4G or bigger
  media.
  
  We should do a much better job of getting the message out there on
  what size media you need. 
 
 OK, I kinda see what you're saying now - the way the images work, the
 size of the compressed image we ship is more or less irrelevant.
correct

 I believe in the case where the bits in the image are too large for
 the filesystems, compose fails, right? So there is basically no
 purpose to running size checks on those images. Sorry I didn't quite
 grok that earlier (in the bug report).
also correct, if they get too big the yum transaction fails and compose
fails.

 If that's the case, we can write a note into the size check test case
 (and the criteria, if it looks necessary) that size checks are not
 necessary for the disk image media.

We just need to keep an eye on spin-kickstarts commits to make sure
that people do not make the filesystems too big to fit on 8g media
unless we decide to target bigger media.

Dennis
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[Test-Announce] Announcing the release of Fedora 21 Alpha!

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The Fedora 21 Alpha release has arrived, with a preview of the latest
free and open source technology under development. Take a peek inside!

http://fedoraproject.org/get-prerelease

*** What is the Alpha release? ***

The Alpha release contains all the exciting features of Fedora 21's
products in a form that anyone can help test. This testing, guided by
the Fedora QA team, helps us target and identify bugs. When these bugs
are fixed, we make a Beta release available. A Beta release is
code-complete and bears a very strong resemblance to the third and
final release. The final release of Fedora 21 is expected in December.

We need your help to make Fedora 21 the best release yet, so please
take some time to download and try out the Alpha and make sure the
things that are important to you are working. If you find a bug, please
report it – every bug you uncover is a chance to improve the experience
for millions of Fedora users worldwide. Together, we can make Fedora a
rock-solid distribution. We have a culture of coordinating new features
and pushing fixes upstream as much as feasible and your feedback will
help improve not only Fedora but Linux and free software on the whole.
At the end of this announcement you can find more information on how to
help.

*** Changes ***

Fedora prides itself on bringing cutting-edge technologies to users of
open source software around the world, and this release continues that
tradition. No matter what you do, Fedora 21 has the tools you need to
help you get things done.

To see how Fedora 21 is evolving from Fedora 20, see the accepted
changes here:

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/21/ChangeSet


== Fedora.Next and Fedora 21 Products ==

As part of the Fedora.next initiative, Fedora 21 will boast three
products: cloud, server, and workstation. Note that for the Alpha
release, the network installers act as generic, 'universal' installers,
offering the entire set of Fedora package groups by default, rather
than only the groups associated with the Product they are meant to
represent.


=== Fedora 21 Base ===
Each of the products will build on the base set of packages for
Fedora. For instance, each product will use the same packages for the
kernel, RPM, yum, systemd, Anaconda, and so forth. 

The Base Working Group develops the standard platform for all Fedora
products, which includes the installer, compose tools, and basic
platform for the other products. Base is not a full product intended
for use on its own, but to be kept as a small, stable platform for
other products to build on.


=== Fedora 21 Cloud ===
The Fedora Cloud Working Group and Special Interest Group (SIG) has
been busy leading up to Fedora 21. Cloud is now a top-level product for
Fedora 21, and will include images for use in private cloud
environments like OpenStack, as well as AMIs for use on Amazon, and a
new image streamlined for running Docker containers. 

 Modular Kernel Packaging for Cloud 
Space is precious, and there's little reason to include any kernel
modules that aren't used in the cloud. As part of the work for Fedora
21, the cloud SIG and kernel team split the kernel into two packages.
One package contains the minimum modules for running in a virtualized
environment, the other contains the larger set of modules for a more
general installation.

 Fedora Atomic Host 
In early April, Red Hat announced Project Atomic, an effort to provide
the tools and patterns for a streamlined operating system to run Docker
containers. The Fedora 21 release will be the first to offer an
Atomic host for Fedora, which includes a minimal set of packages and
an image composed with rpm-ostree. While using the same RPMs as other
Fedora offerings, the Atomic host will allow users to roll back updates
(if necessary) as one atomic unit -- making update management much
easier. For users and organizations looking to run Docker containers,
the Atomic host will be ideal.


=== Fedora 21 Server ===
The Fedora Server product is a common base platform that is meant to
run featured application stacks, which are produced, tested, and
distributed by the Server Working Group. Want to use Fedora as a Web
server, file server, database server, or platform for an
Infrastructure-as-a-Service? Fedora 21 Server is for you.

 Fedora Server Management Features 
The Fedora Server product introduces new Server management features
aimed at making it easier to install discrete infrastructure services.
The Fedora Server will introduce three new technologies in Fedora to
handle this task, rolekit, Cockpit and OpenLMI.

* Rolekit is a Role deployment and management toolkit that provides a
  consistent interface to administrators to install and configure all
  the packages needed to implement a specific server role. Rolekit is
  at an early stage of development in Fedora 21 Alpha.

* Cockpit is a user interface for configuring and monitoring your
  server or servers. It is 

Re: last TC where kickstart worked

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On Tue, 16 Sep 2014 16:57:53 -0400
Gene Czarcinski gczarcin...@gmail.com wrote:

 In TC7 kickstart  is broken.  Anybody know (has run) a kickstart
 install with one of the TC versions of F21?
 
 Gene

we use kickstarts to install the cloud images, TC6, TC7 and RC1 all
worked. you will need to explain more what is not working.

Dennis
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Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 21 Alpha Test Compose 6 (TC6) Available Now!

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On Sun, 07 Sep 2014 19:39:34 +1200
Gavin Flower gavinflo...@archidevsys.co.nz wrote:

 On 07/09/14 19:13, drago01 wrote:
  On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 6:00 AM, Adam Williamson
  adamw...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
  On Fri, 2014-09-05 at 14:56 -0600, Orion Poplawski wrote:
  On 09/05/2014 01:03 AM, Andre Robatino wrote:
  As per the Fedora 21 schedule [1], Fedora 21 Alpha Test Compose
  6 (TC6) is now available for testing.
  Minor nit, but can we try for consistent naming?  Thanks.  We've
  had:
 
some background info
iso volumeid's can only be 32 characters historically the file name was
the volumeid also

  F21a-TC1/
this was an attempt to get the filename under 32 characters but we
decided it was just ugly
  21-Alpha-T2/2014-07-21 01:59-
an attempt to make things less ugly but still fit in 32 characters
  21-Alpha-TC3/   2014-08-23 03:32-
here we patched pungi to make the volumeid use a rule engine to shorten
elements in the lable so we can get sensible names
  21-Alpha-TC4/   2014-08-26 04:58-
  21-Alpha-TC5/   2014-08-30 04:38-
 
  and now:
 
  21_Alpha_TC6/   2014-09-05 06:06-
this change was supposed to go into TC3 and didn't it was a correction
of that

Dennis

  The changes are all intended, not accidental.
  Because ?
 Because !!!   :-)
 
 Actually, I don't know and am also curious.
 
 I prefer the hyphenated name.
 
 
 Cheers,
 Gavin

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Re: vte in F20 stable is downgraded by yum distro-sync

[Dennis Gilmore]

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On Tue, 2 Sep 2014 11:35:59 + (UTC)
Andre Robatino robat...@fedoraproject.org wrote:

 I previously had vte-0.34.9-3.fc20 installed in F20 stable (installed
 on July 3, which is probably the push date) but a yum distro-sync
 downgraded it to vte-0.34.9-2.fc20, and the -3 version does not
 appear in Bodhi. What happened to it?
 

you never got it from stable, I have the last almost 41,000 emails from
bodhi actions, I get email whenever people add updates, sthey get
pushed to stable etc  there is zero emails for vte-0.34.9-3.fc20 it
wasnt pushed out as an update.

Dennis
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Re: Consistent names changed yet again?

[Dennis Gilmore]

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On Wed, 6 Aug 2014 07:41:07 -0400
Tom Horsley horsley1...@gmail.com wrote:

 I've got F21 branched installed on an alternate partition on
 my system, and I noticed this nonsense. On F21 I get this:
 
 enp5s0: flags=4163UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,MULTICAST  mtu 1500
 inet 10.134.30.143  netmask 255.255.255.0  broadcast
 10.134.30.255 inet6 fe80::20b:eff:fe0f:ed  prefixlen 64  scopeid
 0x20link ether 00:0b:0e:0f:00:ed  txqueuelen 1000  (Ethernet)
 RX packets 112  bytes 13242 (12.9 KiB)
 RX errors 0  dropped 0  overruns 0  frame 0
 TX packets 84  bytes 10207 (9.9 KiB)
 TX errors 0  dropped 0 overruns 0  carrier 1  collisions 0

this comes systemd's naming structure.

 On F20 the same hardware (note the MAC address) gives this:
 
 p6p1: flags=4163UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,MULTICAST  mtu 1500
 inet 10.134.30.143  netmask 255.255.255.0  broadcast
 10.134.30.255 inet6 fe80::20b:eff:fe0f:ed  prefixlen 64  scopeid
 0x20link ether 00:0b:0e:0f:00:ed  txqueuelen 1000  (Ethernet)
 RX packets 1233320  bytes 144491797 (137.7 MiB)
 RX errors 0  dropped 0  overruns 0  frame 0
 TX packets 2058583  bytes 2951769070 (2.7 GiB)
 TX errors 0  dropped 0 overruns 0  carrier 1  collisions 0

this comes from biosdevname's naming structure.

Dennis
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Re: Fedora-Xfce-armhfp-21-20140725-sda.raw.xz - Cubieboard 2

[Dennis Gilmore]

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On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 14:23:46 -0400
Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.com wrote:

 OK.  Some more information.  I should have read the known issues that 
 video was not supported yet and not waste time when I forgot my
 console serial usb adapter.
 
 So I just built of 0725 and did a firstboot.  It hung at:
 
 Fedora release 21 (Twenty One)
 Kernel 3.16.0-0.rc6.git1.1.fc21.armv7hl on an armv7l (ttyS0)
 
 [   90.945170] Ebtables v2.0 registered
 [  103.427868] cfg80211: Calling CRDA to update world regulatory
 domain [  104.033676] cfg80211: World regulatory domain updated:
 [  104.053602] cfg80211:   (2402000 KHz - 2472000 KHz @ 4 KHz), 
 (N/A, 2000 mBm), (N/A)
 [  104.078213] cfg80211:   (517 KHz - 525 KHz @ 16 KHz), 
 (N/A, 2000 mBm), (N/A)
 [  104.094960] cfg80211:   (549 KHz - 573 KHz @ 16 KHz), 
 (N/A, 2000 mBm), (0 s)
 [  104.103304] cfg80211:   (5735000 KHz - 5835000 KHz @ 8 KHz), 
 (N/A, 2000 mBm), (N/A)
 [  106.258769] eth0: device MAC address 6a:69:4a:ec:9a:81
 [  107.145200] IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth0: link is not ready
 
 there was no prompting for root password, time zone or login user. So
 I built another Sd card with --norootpass

you need to use the minimal image to get initial-setup running on the
serial console. all the Graphical images run it in X 

Dennis
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Re: rpm is not signed

[Dennis Gilmore]

On Tue, 15 Jul 2014 11:42:00 +0200
poma pomidorabelis...@gmail.com wrote:

 
 yum update
 ...
 Package fedora-kickstarts-0.21.7-1.fc21.noarch.rpm is not signed
 
 I guess, it doesn't need bzz?

Its known and expected, we can not guarantee that everything is signed
until we enable bodhi for updates.

Dennis
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Re: Wither Fedora 21 boot.iso?

[Dennis Gilmore]

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On Tue, 15 Jul 2014 12:58:54 -0500
Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to wrote:

 On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 19:50:59 +0200,
   poma pomidorabelis...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 After 21 gets released, due to the use of 'updates-testing', do we
 need to yum --releasever=21 distro-sync
 after
 yum-config-manager --disable updates-testing
 yum-config-manager --enable updates
 
 You can enable updates now if you want. There is an empty repo there
 so things will work, but slightly slower.
 
 You don't have to disable updates-testing after the release. If you
 are running with it enabled now, it's reasonable to keep it enabled
 after the release.

updates and updates-testing are both enabled currently. we will disable
updates-testing before making the final release. you should do a
distro-sync once we push the zero day updates


Dennis
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Re: Today's Rawhide mail missing due to mass rebuild

[Dennis Gilmore]

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On Mon, 09 Jun 2014 12:00:49 -0700
Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote:

 Just in case anyone was wondering - I've rejected today's Rawhide
 report mail because it's 3MB(!) in size, which is a bit crazy. I
 believe it's due to fallout from the mass rebuild currently in
 progress, so it should work itself down to a more reasonable size in
 the next couple of days.

it should be much smaller tomorrow there was over 13,000 changed
packages in todays rawhide. if you really want to see what changed 
http://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/mash/rawhide-20140609/logs/repodiff
has the diff and
http://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/mash/rawhide-20140609/logs/depcheck
has the broken deps.

Dennis
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Re: rawhide installation problems

[Dennis Gilmore]

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On Sat, 31 May 2014 12:53:21 -0400
Gene Czarcinski gczarcin...@gmail.com wrote:

 Currently, it is a bit difficult to do any testing which involves
 doing an install.
 
 First, the gui is broken because of a gtk3 problem so you cannot do a 
 gui install:
 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1102793
 
 [Is it really going to take 2-3 weeks to get this fixed??]
 
 So, lets try a kickstart TUI install:
 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1103441
 
 There is a message about not having a network BUT /run/install/ks.cfg 
 has the kickstart file I specified with http://
 
 Fortunately, not all is lost because Live Install is currently
 working. [rsync update in the 20140531 rawhide].
 
 Comments?  Any circumvention available?  The last good DVD iso I
 have was created based on the 20140528 rawhide and, I believe,
 requires at least two CPUs (virtual or real).
 
 Gene

after some debugging of a bunch of issues this week we finally got the
nightly automated cloud images building using oz in koji 

http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/tasks?state=allview=treemethod=imageorder=-id
is all the tasks.

http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=6914183 is last
nights task. it installed just fine doing a kickstart install. you do
have to specify the device in your network line. you can always do a
text mode interactive install also.

Dennis
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Re: rawhide broken?

[Dennis Gilmore]

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On Mon, 12 May 2014 09:18:38 -0400
Gene Czarcinski gczarcin...@gmail.com wrote:

 I must be on the not-so-random-screw-list because it seems that
 anything based on rawhide after about May 7th hangs in bootup (see
 attached screenshot).
 
 I have a boot.iso (anaconda-21.35-1) downloaded on May 7th as well as
 a small LIVE-LXDE iso which I created on May 7th which both work ...
 well, sort of, with the need to update to systemd-212-4
 No patches, just a plain rawhide install [or booting into rescue
 mode].
 
 Comments??
try giving the guest more than 1 core. we have seen some issues with
hanging on one core but not on 2.

Dennis

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Re: Unable to use dnf to update Openssl [Was: Re: Openssl heartbleed]

[Dennis Gilmore]

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On Wed, 09 Apr 2014 12:00:54 +1000
Ankur Sinha sanjay.an...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Tue, 2014-04-08 at 17:57 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
  
  The update has been available since yesterday afternoon. You have to
  restart your services after installing it.
 
 So, I tried to update openssl as the announcement suggested. I
 couldn't do it via dnf:
 
 http://paste.fedoraproject.org/92743/70087521
 
 Yum worked just fine:
 http://paste.fedoraproject.org/92744/13970085
 
 Is something the matter with dnf's solver? Bug worth filing?

it is how dnf is designed to work. it refreshes the cache in the
background periodically. so wont have the new metadata. dnf clean
metadata followed by dnf update should have worked okay. It's a side
effect and design decision of dnf.

Dennis
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Re: Unable to use dnf to update Openssl [Was: Re: Openssl heartbleed]

[Dennis Gilmore]

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On Tue, 08 Apr 2014 20:48:16 -0700
Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote:

 On Tue, 2014-04-08 at 21:39 -0500, Dennis Gilmore wrote:
  On Wed, 09 Apr 2014 12:00:54 +1000
  Ankur Sinha sanjay.an...@gmail.com wrote:
  
   On Tue, 2014-04-08 at 17:57 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:

The update has been available since yesterday afternoon. You
have to restart your services after installing it.
   
   So, I tried to update openssl as the announcement suggested. I
   couldn't do it via dnf:
   
   http://paste.fedoraproject.org/92743/70087521
   
   Yum worked just fine:
   http://paste.fedoraproject.org/92744/13970085
   
   Is something the matter with dnf's solver? Bug worth filing?
  
  it is how dnf is designed to work. it refreshes the cache in the
  background periodically. so wont have the new metadata. dnf clean
  metadata followed by dnf update should have worked okay. It's a
  side effect and design decision of dnf.
 
 I don't see what metadata has to do with it, it's a simple transaction
 to update two package files that exist locally. No repo metadata ought
 to be involved. If it works with yum it should work with dnf.

dnf's copy of the metadata is out of date, it doesnt know about the new
update and so can not fetch them and install them until it refreshes
the metadata, which is a process it hides from the users in the name of
making the user experience better.

Dennis
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Re: Unable to use dnf to update Openssl [Was: Re: Openssl heartbleed]

[Dennis Gilmore]

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On Tue, 08 Apr 2014 20:48:16 -0700
Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote:

 On Tue, 2014-04-08 at 21:39 -0500, Dennis Gilmore wrote:
  On Wed, 09 Apr 2014 12:00:54 +1000
  Ankur Sinha sanjay.an...@gmail.com wrote:
  
   On Tue, 2014-04-08 at 17:57 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:

The update has been available since yesterday afternoon. You
have to restart your services after installing it.
   
   So, I tried to update openssl as the announcement suggested. I
   couldn't do it via dnf:
   
   http://paste.fedoraproject.org/92743/70087521
   
   Yum worked just fine:
   http://paste.fedoraproject.org/92744/13970085
   
   Is something the matter with dnf's solver? Bug worth filing?
  
  it is how dnf is designed to work. it refreshes the cache in the
  background periodically. so wont have the new metadata. dnf clean
  metadata followed by dnf update should have worked okay. It's a
  side effect and design decision of dnf.
 
 I don't see what metadata has to do with it, it's a simple transaction
 to update two package files that exist locally. No repo metadata ought
 to be involved. If it works with yum it should work with dnf.

I did not look at the fpastes. I assumed that it was pulling from
mirrors. a task that yum will be able to do but dnf won't

Dennis
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[Test-Announce] Fedora 18 End of Life

[Dennis Gilmore]

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As of 14th January 2014, Fedora 18 has reached its end of life for
updates and support. No further updates, including security updates,
will be available for Fedora 18. A previous reminder was sent on
December 18th [0].

Fedora 19 will continue to receive updates until approximately one
month after the release of Fedora 21.  The maintenance schedule of
Fedora releases is documented on the Fedora Project wiki [1].  The
Fedora Project wiki also contains instructions [2] on how to upgrade
from a previous release of Fedora to a version receiving updates.

Cheers,
Dennis

[0]
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/announce/2013-December/003189.html
[1]
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Release_Life_Cycle#Maintenance_Schedule
[2] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DistributionUpgrades
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[Test-Announce] Reminder: Fedora 18 end of life on 2014-01-14

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Greetings. 

This is a reminder email about the end of life process for Fedora 18. 

Fedora 18 will reach end of life on 2014-01-14, and no further updates
will be pushed out after that time. Additionally, with the recent
release of Fedora 20, no new packages will be added to the Fedora 18
collection. 

Please see http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DistributionUpgrades for more
information on upgrading from Fedora 18 to a newer release. 


Dennis
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Re: Fedora 20 RC1 AMIs

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El Fri, 13 Dec 2013 23:13:01 -0500
Matthew Miller mat...@mattdm.org escribió:
 On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 10:05:05PM -0600, Dennis Gilmore wrote:
Note, these are the GA images.
   Hey Dennis, will the images going to mirrors be these or the ones
   with the extra RC1.1 dot, like
   Fedora-x86_64-20-20131211.1-sda.qcow2?
  The Images in RC1 and RC1.1 are exactly the same. the changes in the
  RC1.1 compose was just to respin the install tree making sure that
  none of the older libreoffice packages were in the tree.
 
 Right, sorry, I wasn't clear. I know that part, but I'm wondering
 what the actual filename going to the mirrors will be. This is
 important for the web site and short links.

We do not change file names when composed. what they are in the RC is
what they will be when shipped.

Dennis
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Re: Fedora 20 RC1 AMIs

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El Sat, 14 Dec 2013 14:22:42 -0500
Matthew Miller mat...@fedoraproject.org escribió:
 On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 02:50:50AM -0600, Dennis Gilmore wrote:
 Hey Dennis, will the images going to mirrors be these or the
 ones with the extra RC1.1 dot, like
 Fedora-x86_64-20-20131211.1-sda.qcow2?
The Images in RC1 and RC1.1 are exactly the same. the changes
in the RC1.1 compose was just to respin the install tree making
sure that none of the older libreoffice packages were in the
tree.
   Right, sorry, I wasn't clear. I know that part, but I'm wondering
   what the actual filename going to the mirrors will be. This is
   important for the web site and short links.
  We do not change file names when composed. what they are in the RC
  is what they will be when shipped.
 
 I see that the RC1 tree now alo contains
 Fedora-x86_64-20-20131211.1-sda.qcow2 -- I am pretty sure that it was
 previously Fedora-x86_64-20-20131211-sda.qcow2, without the .1. That
 is what I was referring to.
 

the .1 is refering to the RC that it was. there is issues using just
the date, it clashes with the nightly images for one. if we had done a
rc2 there would have been a .2 at the end.

going forward Im going to name the images as we do for ARM and livecds

Dennis
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Re: Fedora 20 RC1 AMIs

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El Thu, 12 Dec 2013 04:05:55 -0600
Dennis Gilmore den...@ausil.us escribió:
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 Hi all,
 
 Final RC1 images have been uploaded to EC2 and are available at 
 
 ami-3b361952 : us-east-1 image for i386
 ami-1337187a : us-east-1 image for x86_64
 
 additionally if your looking to the AMI's they have been added to
 files in the release tree
 http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/20-RC1/Images/i386/Fedora-Images-i386-20-AMI
 http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/20-RC1/Images/x86_64/Fedora-Images-x86_64-20-AMI
 
 when we get to final and the images are uploaded to all regions
 they will all be listed and the file will be gpg signed in the final
 tree

Note, these are the GA images.

Dennis
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Re: Fedora 20 RC1 AMIs

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El Fri, 13 Dec 2013 10:46:16 -0500
Matthew Miller mat...@fedoraproject.org escribió:
 On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 05:47:38AM -0600, Dennis Gilmore wrote:
   additionally if your looking to the AMI's they have been added to
   files in the release tree
   http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/20-RC1/Images/i386/Fedora-Images-i386-20-AMI
   http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/20-RC1/Images/x86_64/Fedora-Images-x86_64-20-AMI
   when we get to final and the images are uploaded to all regions
   they will all be listed and the file will be gpg signed in the
   final tree
  Note, these are the GA images.
 
 Hey Dennis, will the images going to mirrors be these or the ones
 with the extra RC1.1 dot, like
 Fedora-x86_64-20-20131211.1-sda.qcow2?
 

The Images in RC1 and RC1.1 are exactly the same. the changes in the
RC1.1 compose was just to respin the install tree making sure that none
of the older libreoffice packages were in the tree.


Dennis
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Fedora 20 RC1 AMIs

[Dennis Gilmore]

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Hi all,

Final RC1 images have been uploaded to EC2 and are available at 

ami-3b361952 : us-east-1 image for i386
ami-1337187a : us-east-1 image for x86_64

additionally if your looking to the AMI's they have been added to files
in the release tree
http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/20-RC1/Images/i386/Fedora-Images-i386-20-AMI
http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/20-RC1/Images/x86_64/Fedora-Images-x86_64-20-AMI

when we get to final and the images are uploaded to all regions
they will all be listed and the file will be gpg signed in the final
tree
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Re: Not able to install F20 over IPv6

[Dennis Gilmore]

Everything but bugzilla reporting should work today over ipv6 only. If it 
doesn't it is a bug, which needs to be filed.
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Fedora 20 TC5 AMIs

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Hi all,

Final TC5 images have been uploaded to EC2 and are available at 

ami-f9755890 : us-east-1 image for i386
ami-1d7a5774 : us-east-1 image for x86_64

additionally if your looking to the AMI's they have been added to files
in the release tree
http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/20-TC5/Images/i386/Fedora-Images-i386-20-TC5-AMI
http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/20-TC5/Images/x86_64/Fedora-Images-x86_64-20-TC5-AMI

when we get to final and the images are uploaded to all regions
they will all be listed and the file will be gpg signed in the final
tree

Dennis
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Fedora 20 TC4 AMIs

[Dennis Gilmore]

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Hi all,

Final TC4 images have been uploaded to EC2 and are available at 

ami-955476fc : us-east-1 image for i386
ami-c95476a0 : us-east-1 image for x86_64

additionally if your looking to the AMI's they have been added to files
in the release tree
http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/20-TC4/Images/i386/Fedora-Images-i386-20-TC4-AMI
http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/20-TC4/Images/x86_64/Fedora-Images-x86_64-20-TC4-AMI

when we get to final and the images are uploaded to all regions
they will all be listed and the file will be gpg signed in the final
tree

Dennis
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Fedora 20 TC3 AMIs

[Dennis Gilmore]

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Hi all,

Final TC3 images have been uploaded to EC2 and are available at 

ami-c17858a8 : us-east-1 image for i386
ami-6578580c : us-east-1 image for x86_64

additionally if your looking to the AMI's they have been added to files
in the release tree
http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/20-TC3/Images/i386/Fedora-Images-i386-20-TC3-AMI
http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/20-TC3/Images/x86_64/Fedora-Images-x86_64-20-TC3-AMI

when we get to final and the images are uploaded to all regions
they will all be listed and the file will be gpg signed in the final
tree

Dennis
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Fedora 20 TC2 AMIs

[Dennis Gilmore]

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Hi all,

Final TC2 images have been uploaded to EC2 and are available at 

ami-3392b55a : us-east-1 image for i386
ami-f794b39e : us-east-1 image for x86_64

additionally if your looking to the AMI's they have been added to files
in the release tree
http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/20-TC2/Images/i386/Fedora-Images-i386-20-TC2-AMI
http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/20-TC2/Images/x86_64/Fedora-Images-x86_64-20-TC2-AMI

when we get to final and the images are uploaded to all regions
they will all be listed and the file will be gpg signed in the final
tree

Dennis
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Fedora 20 TC1 AMIs

[Dennis Gilmore]

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Hi all,

Final TC1 images have been uploaded to EC2 and are available at 

ami-fb81a492 : us-east-1 image for i386
ami-6581a40c : us-east-1 image for x86_64

additionally if your looking to the AMI's they have been added to files
in the release tree
http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/20-TC1/Images/i386/Fedora-Images-i386-20-TC1-AMI
http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/20-TC1/Images/x86_64/Fedora-Images-x86_64-20-TC1-AMI

when we get to final Beta and the images are uploaded to all regions
they will all be listed and the file will be gpg signed in the final
tree

Dennis
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[Test-Announce] Announcing the release of Fedora 20 Beta!

[Dennis Gilmore]

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The Fedora 20 Heisenbug beta release has arrived with a preview of
the latest fantastic, free, and open source technology currently under
development. Take a peek inside:

*** What is the Beta Release? ***

The beta release is the last important milestone before the release of Fedora
20. A Beta release is code-complete and bears a very strong resemblance to the
third and final release. Only critical bug fixes will be pushed as updates up
to the general release of Fedora 20. The final release of Fedora 20 is expected
in early December. Meanwhile, download the beta of Fedora 20 and help us make
it even better:

http://fedoraproject.org/get-prerelease

We need your help to make Fedora 20 the best release yet, so please take some
time to download and try out the beta and make sure the things that are
important to you are working. If you find a bug, please report it – every bug
you uncover is a chance to improve the experience for millions of Fedora users
worldwide. Together, we can make Fedora 20 a rock-solid distribution. We have a
culture of coordinating new features and pushing fixes upstream as much as
feasible and your feedback will help improve not only Fedora but Linux and free
software on the whole. (See the end of this announcement for more information
on how to help.)

Since it's a beta release, some problems may still be lurking. A list of
problems that we already know about can be found at the Common F20 bugs page,
found at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F20_bugs.

== 10 Years of Fedora ==

The Fedora 20 release coincides nicely with the 10th anniversary of Fedora. The
first Fedora release (then called Fedora Core 1) came out on November 6, 2003.

Since then, the Fedora Project has become an active and vibrant community that
produces nearly a dozen spins that are tailor made for desktop users,
hardware design, gaming, musicians, artists, and early classroom environments.

== ARM as a Primary Architecture ==

While Fedora has supported a number of hardware architectures over the years,
x86/x86_64 has been the default for the majority of Fedora users and for the
Linux community in general.

ARM, however, has been making massive strides. It already dominates the mobile
market, and is becoming a go-to platform for hobbyists and makers, and is
showing enormous promise for the server market as well.

In keeping with Fedora's commitment to innovation, the Fedora community has
been pushing to make ARM a primary architecture to satisfy the needs of users
and developers targeting the ARM platform.

*** Maturity and Advanced Features ***

Sometimes it's not the big new features that make a users' experience better,
it's the little enhancements or long-awaited tricky features that really help
make a new release the bee's knees.

=== NetworkManager Improvements ===

NetworkManager is getting several improvements in Fedora 20 that will be
welcome additions for power users and system administrators.

Users will now be able to add, edit, delete, activate, and de-activate network
connections via the nmcli command line tool, which will make life much easier
for non-desktop uses of Fedora.

NetworkManager is also getting support for bonding interfaces and bridging
interfaces. Bonding and bridging are used in many enterprise setups and are
necessary for virtualization and fail-over scenarios.

=== No Default Sendmail, Syslog ===

Fedora 20 removes some services that many users find unnecessary, though (of
course) they will remain available as installable packages for users who might
need them.

The systemd journal now takes the place as the default logging solution, having
been tested and able to manage persistent logging in place of syslog.

Also, Sendmail will no longer be installed by default, as most Fedora installs
have no need of a Mail Transfer Agent (MTA).

=== Cloud and Virtualization Improvements ===

The Fedora 20 release continues the Fedora tradition of adopting and
integrating leading edge technologies used in cloud computing. This release
includes a number of features that will make working with virtualization and
cloud computing much easier.

=== First-Class Cloud Images ===

The Fedora Cloud SIG has been working hard on providing images that are
well-suited to running as guests in public and private clouds like Amazon Web
Services (AWS) and OpenStack. If you're using public or private cloud, you
should definitely test-drive the beta images today!

=== OS Installer Support for LVM Thin Provisioning ===

LVM has introduced thin provisioning technology, which provides greatly
improved snapshot functionality in addition to thin provisioning capability.
This change will make it possible to configure thin provisioning during OS
installation.

=== VM Snapshot UI with virt-manager ===

This change will make taking VM snapshots much easier. qemu and libvirt have
all the major pieces in place for performing safe VM snapshots/checkpoints,
however there isn't 

[Test-Announce] Announcing the release of Fedora 20 Beta!

[Dennis Gilmore]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

The Fedora 20 Heisenbug beta release has arrived with a preview of
the latest fantastic, free, and open source technology currently under
development. Take a peek inside:

*** What is the Beta Release? ***

The beta release is the last important milestone before the release of Fedora
20. A Beta release is code-complete and bears a very strong resemblance to the
third and final release. Only critical bug fixes will be pushed as updates up
to the general release of Fedora 20. The final release of Fedora 20 is expected
in early December. Meanwhile, download the beta of Fedora 20 and help us make
it even better:

http://fedoraproject.org/get-prerelease

We need your help to make Fedora 20 the best release yet, so please take some
time to download and try out the beta and make sure the things that are
important to you are working. If you find a bug, please report it – every bug
you uncover is a chance to improve the experience for millions of Fedora users
worldwide. Together, we can make Fedora 20 a rock-solid distribution. We have a
culture of coordinating new features and pushing fixes upstream as much as
feasible and your feedback will help improve not only Fedora but Linux and free
software on the whole. (See the end of this announcement for more information
on how to help.)

Since it's a beta release, some problems may still be lurking. A list of
problems that we already know about can be found at the Common F20 bugs page,
found at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F20_bugs.

== 10 Years of Fedora ==

The Fedora 20 release coincides nicely with the 10th anniversary of Fedora. The
first Fedora release (then called Fedora Core 1) came out on November 6, 2003.

Since then, the Fedora Project has become an active and vibrant community that
produces nearly a dozen spins that are tailor made for desktop users,
hardware design, gaming, musicians, artists, and early classroom environments.

== ARM as a Primary Architecture ==

While Fedora has supported a number of hardware architectures over the years,
x86/x86_64 has been the default for the majority of Fedora users and for the
Linux community in general.

ARM, however, has been making massive strides. It already dominates the mobile
market, and is becoming a go-to platform for hobbyists and makers, and is
showing enormous promise for the server market as well.

In keeping with Fedora's commitment to innovation, the Fedora community has
been pushing to make ARM a primary architecture to satisfy the needs of users
and developers targeting the ARM platform.

*** Maturity and Advanced Features ***

Sometimes it's not the big new features that make a users' experience better,
it's the little enhancements or long-awaited tricky features that really help
make a new release the bee's knees.

=== NetworkManager Improvements ===

NetworkManager is getting several improvements in Fedora 20 that will be
welcome additions for power users and system administrators.

Users will now be able to add, edit, delete, activate, and de-activate network
connections via the nmcli command line tool, which will make life much easier
for non-desktop uses of Fedora.

NetworkManager is also getting support for bonding interfaces and bridging
interfaces. Bonding and bridging are used in many enterprise setups and are
necessary for virtualization and fail-over scenarios.

=== No Default Sendmail, Syslog ===

Fedora 20 removes some services that many users find unnecessary, though (of
course) they will remain available as installable packages for users who might
need them.

The systemd journal now takes the place as the default logging solution, having
been tested and able to manage persistent logging in place of syslog.

Also, Sendmail will no longer be installed by default, as most Fedora installs
have no need of a Mail Transfer Agent (MTA).

=== Cloud and Virtualization Improvements ===

The Fedora 20 release continues the Fedora tradition of adopting and
integrating leading edge technologies used in cloud computing. This release
includes a number of features that will make working with virtualization and
cloud computing much easier.

=== First-Class Cloud Images ===

The Fedora Cloud SIG has been working hard on providing images that are
well-suited to running as guests in public and private clouds like Amazon Web
Services (AWS) and OpenStack. If you're using public or private cloud, you
should definitely test-drive the beta images today!

=== OS Installer Support for LVM Thin Provisioning ===

LVM has introduced thin provisioning technology, which provides greatly
improved snapshot functionality in addition to thin provisioning capability.
This change will make it possible to configure thin provisioning during OS
installation.

=== VM Snapshot UI with virt-manager ===

This change will make taking VM snapshots much easier. qemu and libvirt have
all the major pieces in place for performing safe VM snapshots/checkpoints,
however there isn't 

Fedora 20-Beta RC5 AMIs

[Dennis Gilmore]

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hi all,

Beta RC5 images have been uploaded to EC2 and are available at 

ami-8b4219e2 : us-east-1 image for i386
ami-2f421946 : us-east-1 image for x86_64

additionally if your looking to the AMI's they have been added to files
in the release tree
http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/20-Beta-RC5/Images/i386/Fedora-Images-i386-20-Beta-AMI
http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/20-Beta-RC5/Images/x86_64/Fedora-Images-x86_64-20-Beta-AMI

when we get to final Beta and the images are uploaded to all regions
they will all be listed and the file will be gpg signed in the final
tree

Dennis
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Fedora 20-Beta RC3 AMIS

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hi all,

Beta RC2 images have been uploaded to EC2 and are available at 

ami-afcc94c6 : us-east-1 image for i386
ami-a5cd95cc : us-east-1 image for x86_64

additionally if your looking to the AMI's they have been added to files
in the release tree
http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/20-Beta-RC3/Images/i386/Fedora-Images-i386-20-Beta-AMI
http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/20-Beta-RC3/Images/x86_64/Fedora-Images-x86_64-20-Beta-AMI

when we get to final Beta and the images are uploaded to all regions
they will all be listed and the file will be gpg signed in the final
tree

Dennis
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Fedora 20-Beta RC4 AMIS

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hi all,

Beta RC2 images have been uploaded to EC2 and are available at 

ami-c3e3bbaa : us-east-1 image for i386
ami-d3e2baba : us-east-1 image for x86_64

additionally if your looking to the AMI's they have been added to files
in the release tree
http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/20-Beta-RC4/Images/i386/Fedora-Images-i386-20-Beta-AMI
http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/20-Beta-RC4/Images/x86_64/Fedora-Images-x86_64-20-Beta-AMI

when we get to final Beta and the images are uploaded to all regions
they will all be listed and the file will be gpg signed in the final
tree

Dennis
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Re: differences between RC3 and RC4 install images

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El Tue, 05 Nov 2013 21:07:34 -0800
Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com escribió:
 On Wed, 2013-11-06 at 03:23 +, Andre Robatino wrote:
  The install images for 20 Beta RC3 and RC4 are definitely NOT
  identical. The checksums are different, and just looking at the
  DVD, the options under Installation source are different (RC3
  only had one option, RC4 has the regular complement) and the
  add-ons for Basic desktop are different (RC3 had Security Lab,
  which normally isn't there, RC4 does not). There are probably other
  differences as well, I didn't check thoroughly. It looks like
  something was broken with RC3 install images and fixed with RC4.
 
 Sounds like it was affected by the kickstart bug too, then. We didn't
 change package loadout at all between RC3 and RC4.

only thing different between the two was last nights branched compose
for input. pungi, kickstart, etc were all the same.

Dennis
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Fedora 20-Beta RC2 AMIS

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hi all,

Beta RC2 images have been uploaded to EC2 and are available at 

ami-cbaaf3a2 : us-east-1 image for i386
ami-17abf27e : us-east-1 image for x86_64

additionally if your looking to the AMI's they have been added to files
in the release tree
http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/20-Beta-RC2/Images/i386/Fedora-Images-i386-20-Beta-AMI
http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/20-Beta-RC2/Images/x86_64/Fedora-Images-x86_64-20-Beta-AMI

when we get to final Beta and the images are uploaded to all regions
they will all be listed and the file will be gpg signed in the final
tree

Dennis
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Fedora 20-Beta TC6 AMIS

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hi all,

Beta TC6 images have been uploaded to EC2 and are available at 

ami-69bfe000 : us-east-1 image for i386
ami-c5bfe0ac : us-east-1 image for x86_64

additionally if your looking to the AMI's they have been added to files
in the release tree
http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/20-Beta-TC6/Images/i386/Fedora-Images-i386-20-Beta-TC6-AMI
http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/20-Beta-TC6/Images/x86_64/Fedora-Images-x86_64-20-Beta-TC6-AMI

when we get to final alpha and the images are uploaded to all regions
they will all be listed and the file will be signed in the final tree

Dennis
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Re: Fedora 20 updates-testing report

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El Mon, 7 Oct 2013 11:07:26 -0500
Jon Ciesla limburg...@gmail.com escribió:
 My Gmail thinks this is a scam.  Did something change? If not, sorry
 for the noise.
 
 -J
Nothing has changed in how, or where its made

Dennis

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Re: F20 Beta TC1 strange naming

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On Thu, 03 Oct 2013 10:47:35 -0400
Gene Czarcinski g...@czarc.net wrote:

 Shouldn't the Fedora ISOs be named:
  Fedora-20-Beta-TC1-x86_64-DVD.iso
 rather than:
  Fedora-20-Beta-x86_64-DVD.iso
 
 I notice that the spin and live ISOs are all named Beta-TC1 rather 
 than just Beta
 
 Yes, I know, a nit.
 
 Gene
 
 

Its a side effect of redoing the compose processes, i need to fix it so
it has -TC2 etc

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Fedora 20-Alpha RC4 AMIS

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hi all,

RC4 images have been uploaded to EC2 and are available at:

ami-c187cca8 : us-east-1 image for i386
ami-5985ce30 : us-east-1 image for x86_64

additionally if your looking to the AMI's they have been added to files
in the release tree
http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/20-Alpha-RC4/Images/i386/Fedora-Images-i386-20-Alpha-AMI
http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/20-Alpha-RC4/Images/x86_64/Fedora-Images-x86_64-20-Alpha-AMI

when we get to final alpha and the images are uploaded to all regions
they will all be listed and the file will be signed in the final tree

Dennis
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Fedora 20-Alpha RC3 AMIS

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hi all,

RC2 images have been uploaded to EC2 and are available at 
ami-0d256e64 : us-east-1 image for i386
ami-3f256e56 : us-east-1 image for x86_64

additionally if your looking to the AMI's they have been added to files
in the release tree
http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/20-Alpha-RC3/Images/i386/Fedora-Images-i386-20-Alpha-AMI
http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/20-Alpha-RC3/Images/x86_64/Fedora-Images-x86_64-20-Alpha-AMI

when we get to final alpha and the images are uploaded to all regions
they will all be listed and the file will be signed in the final tree

Dennis
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Fedora 20-Alpha RC2 AMIS

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hi all,

RC2 images have been uploaded to EC2 and are available at 
ami-1bb5fc72 : us-east-1 image for i386
ami-03c8816a : us-east-1 image for x86_64


additionally if your looking to the AMI's they have been added to files
in the release tree
http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/20-Alpha-RC2/Images/i386/Fedora-Images-i386-20-Alpha-AMI
http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/20-Alpha-RC2/Images/x86_64/Fedora-Images-x86_64-20-Alpha-AMI

when we get to final alpha and the images are uploaded to all regions
they will all be listed and the file will be signed in the final tree

Dennis
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Fedora 20-Alpha RC1 AMIS

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hi all,

RC1 images have been uploaded to EC2 and are available at 
ami-136a237a : us-east-1 image for i386
ami-116b2278 : us-east-1 image for x86_64

additionally if your looking to the AMI's they have been added to files
in the release tree
http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/20-Alpha-RC1/Images/i386/Fedora-Images-i386-20-Alpha-AMI
http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/20-Alpha-RC1/Images/x86_64/Fedora-Images-x86_64-20-Alpha-AMI

when we get to final alpha and the images are uploaded to all regions
they will all be listed and the file will be signed in the final tree

Dennis
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Fedora 20 Alpha TC2 AMI's

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Hi all,

images for Alpha TC2 have been uploaded to us-east-1

i386: eb82cf82
x86_64: ami-1583ce7c

Happy Testing

Dennis
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[Test-Announce] Fedora 17 End of Life

[Dennis Gilmore]

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As of 30th July 2013, Fedora 17 has reached its end of life for
updates and support. No further updates, including security updates,
will be available for Fedora 17. A previous reminder was sent on
July 3rd [0].

Fedora 18 will continue to receive updates until approximately one
month after the release of Fedora 20.  The maintenance schedule of
Fedora releases is documented on the Fedora Project wiki [1].  The
Fedora Project wiki also contains instructions [2] on how to upgrade
from a previous release of Fedora to a version receiving updates.

Cheers,
Dennis

[0]
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/announce/2013-July/003169.html
[1]
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Release_Life_Cycle#Maintenance_Schedule
[2] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DistributionUpgrades
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[Test-Announce] Announcing the release of Fedora 19 for ARM!

[Dennis Gilmore]

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The Fedora ARM Project is delighted to announce the release of Fedora 19
(Schrödinger's Cat). Open the box and take a look for yourself!

Fedora is a leading-edge, free and open source operating system that
continues to deliver innovative features to many users, with a new
release about every six months.

Download it now:

http://fedoraproject.org/get-fedora-options#2nd_arches

Detailed information about this release can be seen in the release
notes:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Architectures/ARM/F19_Release_Announcement

** What's New in Fedora 19 for ARM? **

The Fedora ARM Project takes great pride in being able to show off
features for all types of use cases, including traditional desktop
users, systems administration, development, and many more. But a few new
features are guaranteed to be seen by nearly anyone installing Fedora
and are improvements that deserve to be called out on their own. Fedora
ARM has all the features of the primary architectures along with a few
of our own.

A complete list with details of each new feature is available here:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/19/FeatureList

== Unified Kernel ==

The Fedora 19 kernel is now unified. This greatly reduces the number of
kernels we need to build, since they are no longer board dependent. to
enable this the kernel has adopted Device Tree to define the platform.
As a result of this work supporting new devices is much simpler and may
already work on boards we do not have direct access to.  If you get
Fedora 19 for ARM running on a new system we would love to hear about
it.

== X and graphical desktop support ==

We have added support for running X on the Trimslice in addition to
OMAP and Versatile Express based devices. Fedora 19 for ARM, comes with
images for Xfce, LXDE, Sugar on a Stick, KDE and Mate. Thanks to
initial-setup you create your user or set the root password on first
boot. 

== Improved release process ==

Due to infrastructure changes we have been able to keep closer parity
with keeping the builds in parity with those on the primary arches,
resulting in us following the milestone processes and release Fedora 19
for ARM on the same day as the Primary architecture release. This is a
First for us.

== Software floating point removal ==

As of Fedora 19 we no longer build armv5tel rpms. this means that
support for guruplugs and sheevaplugs stops with Fedora 18. Raspberry
Pi is being supported by an optimised build called pidora. 

*** Downloads, upgrades, documentation, and common bugs ***

Start by downloading Fedora 19 for ARM:
http://fedoraproject.org/get-fedora-options#2nd_arches

If you are upgrading from a previous release of Fedora, refer to:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upgrading

*** Documentation ***
Read the full release notes for Fedora 19, guides for several languages, and 
learn about known bugs and how to report new ones:
http://docs.fedoraproject.org/

Because of the number of changes to the installer, we particularly suggest 
taking a peek at the Installation Guide:
http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/19/html/Installation_Guide/index.html

Fedora 19 common bugs are documented at:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Architectures/ARM/F19_Release_Announcement#Known_Issues

This page includes information on several known bugs in the installer,
so we recommend reading it before installing Fedora 19.

*** Contributing ***

We can't build Fedora inside a box. We need your help! Bug reports are
especially helpful--if you encounter any issues, please report them!

Fedora is a fantastic, friendly community, and we have many ways in
which you can contribute, including documentation, marketing, design, 
QA, and development. 

To learn how to help us, visit:
http://join.fedoraproject.org/

*** Fedora 20 ***

Fedora 20 has been in active development for several months already. We plan to 
release it in November 2013, though the final schedule is part of the planning 
process and subject to change:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/20/Schedule

*** Contact information ***

If you are a journalist or reporter, you can find additional information here:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Press

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Re: fedup'able ?

[Dennis Gilmore]

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On Sun, 30 Jun 2013 09:49:03 +0800
Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com wrote:

 I know we are a few days away from release.  But, should an F18
 system be fedup'able now using the command
 
 fedup-cli --network 19  ?
 
 I ask since I tried it and while things seemed to go well I was left
 with a couple of problems.
 
 1.  No F19 kernel installed.  Fixed by yum distro-sync after
 needing to erase and then re-install firefox.
 
 2.  On boot, I get the messages  about themes not being
 found.  Still boots fine, but annoying to see.

at this point if you try to use fedup you will get a beta upgrade not
final. you would need to explicitly point it at f19-RC3 or wait until
Tuesday

Dennis
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[Test-Announce] Announcing the release of Fedora 19 Beta.

[Dennis Gilmore]

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We've opened the box for the Fedora 19 Schrödinger's Cat beta release
and confirmed it's alive! Ready to purr at the latest free and open
source technology? Download it now:

http://fedoraproject.org/get-prerelease

 What is the Beta release? 

The Beta release is the last important milestone before the release of
Fedora 19. Only critical bug fixes will be pushed as updates, leading
up to the general release of Fedora 19. Join us in making Fedora 19 a
solid release by downloading, testing, and providing your valuable
feedback. 

Of course, this is a beta release, meaning that some problems may still
be lurking. A list of the problems we already know about is found at
the Common F19 bugs page, seen here:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F19_bugs

Fedora 19 Beta's default configuration allows applications and users
with administrative privileges to install signed packages from the
official Fedora repositories (but no other packages) without
authentication or confirmation. This was inherited from PackageKit
upstream, is not Fedora's intended behavior, and will not be the case
for the Fedora 19 final release. More details on this issue and the
planned behavior for the final release can be found at
https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1115 .

 Features 

Fedora 19 continues our long tradition of bringing the latest
technologies to open source software users. No matter what you do with
open source, Fedora 19 has the tools you need to help you get things
done. 

A complete list with details of each new feature is available here:

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/19/FeatureList

=== Make new things ===
Would you like to play? Whether you're a developer, maker, or just
starting to learn about open source development, we have what you need
to bring your ideas to reality. Here's a peek at some of our new tools:

* 3D modelling and printing are enabled through a variety of tools,
  including OpenSCAD, Skeinforge, SFACT, Printrun, and RepetierHost. By
  bringing 3D printing tools into Fedora, you can get started with
  what's ready-to-go in the repositories without having to download
  binary blobs or run Python code from git. 

* OpenShift Origin makes it easy for you to build your own
  Platform-as-a-Service (PaaS) infrastructure, allowing you to enable
  others to easily develop and deploy software.

* node.js is a popular Javascript-based platform for those building
  scalable network applications or real-time apps across distributed
  devices.  Also included is the npm package manager, providing access
  to over 20,000 programs and libraries available under free and open
  source licenses.

* Ruby 2.0.0, just released in February, comes to Fedora while
  maintaining source-level backwards compatibility with your Ruby 1.9.3
  software. Also included: a custom Ruby loader for easy switching of
  interpreters.

* MariaDB, a community-developed fork of MySQL, is the default
  implementation of MySQL in Fedora 19, offering users a truly open
  MySQL implementation. 

=== Get things done ===

* Federated VOIP means Fedora users can make calls using a user@domain
  address with the same convenience as email.   

* CUPS has been updated to the latest upstream release, using PDF
  rather than PostScript as the baseline document format. 

=== Learn ===

* Developer's Assistant is great for those new to development or even
  new to Linux, this tool helps you to get started on a code project
  with templates, samples, and toolchains for the languages of your
  choice. Bonus: It lets you publish directly to GitHub.

=== Deploy, Monitor, and Manage ===
Make your machines work for you--not the other way around. Whether you
have one or one too many machines, Fedora 19 helps you boot manage
your systems and enables you to be proactive with tools for diagnosis,
monitoring, and logging.

* Syslinux optional boot tool integration brings you optional,
  simplified booting of Fedora. We have added support for using
  syslinux instead of GRUB via kickstart and plan to add a hidden
  option in Anaconda installer as well. syslinux is especially ideal
  for images used in cloud environments and virt appliances where the
  advanced features of GRUB are not needed. 

* Among other systemd enhancements in this release, systemd Resource
  Control lets you modify your service settings without a reboot by
  dynamically querying and modifying resource control parameters at
  runtime.

* Kerberos administrators will enjoy an easier experience, thanks to
  Fedora 19 removing the need for Kerberos clients to sync their clocks
  or to have reverse DNS records carefully setup for services. In
  addition, it provies Kerberos-enabled, LDAP replicated, two-factor
  authentication for FreeIPA. 

* OpenLMI is a common infrastructure for the management of Linux
  systems that makes remote management of machines much simpler.

 Desktop Environments and Spins 

=== GNOME 3.8