Re: proposal: drop optical media from release criteria

2018-09-20 Thread Fred Smith
On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 08:42:13PM +0200, Julen Landa Alustiza wrote:
>I keep an optical driver in a box under the desk, it might be useful
>someday.
>I haven't used it for years. So yeah, it's time to clean the box

So, does this mean the images can can no longer be made to boot from
optical media?
> 
>El jue., 20 sept. 2018 20:26, Richard Shaw <[1]hobbes1...@gmail.com>
>escribió:
> 
>On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 12:49 PM Matthew Miller
><[2]mat...@fedoraproject.org> wrote:
> 
>  Justification:
>  [3]http://newsthump.com/2018/05/21/man-decides-to-keep-box-of-cables
>  -hes-has-since-2002-for-another-year/
> 
>Ouch, that stings just a little :) But yeah, I have burned an install
>disk in years.
>Thanks,
>Richard
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Re: GNOME 3.30.0 megaupdate

2018-09-05 Thread Fred Smith
On Thu, Sep 06, 2018 at 10:27:06AM +1200, Gavin Flower wrote:
> On 06/09/2018 04:45, Parag Nemade wrote:
> >
> >
> >On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 8:49 PM, Stephen Gallagher
> >mailto:sgall...@redhat.com>> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 11:12 AM Kalev Lember
> >mailto:kalevlem...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> >Hi all,
> >
> >As many of you know, I've been gone half the summer. I'm back
> >now since
> >Monday though and just in time for GNOME 3.30.0 :)
> >
> >We are quite a bit behind with the builds, like half of GNOME
> >is still
> >at 3.28.x or at various stages of 3.29.x snapshots, so there's
> >quite a
> >bit of catching up to do.
> >
> >I just requested a f29-gnome side tag and will be commencing
> >3.30.0
> >builds shortly. When the builds are done, I'll try to collect
> >all the
> >builds in a single Bodhi megaupdate as usual. Please use
> >'fedpkg build
> >--target f29-gnome' if you are helping with builds, and I'll
> >pick up
> >anything that is tagged with f29-gnome in koji.
> >
> >Dunno what to do wrt the ongoing freeze and getting final 3.30
> >in F29
> >Beta, I guess it may be too late for that. Any opinions from
> >QA here?
> >
> >There's also a few 3.30.0 builds already submitted separately into
> >Bodhi. I may try to collect those to the megaupdate as well,
> >not sure
> >yet. Let's see how things go :)
> >
> >
> >
> >I'd be *strongly* disinclined to give a Freeze Exception for a
> >GNOME mega-update. There's just far too much that could go wrong.
> >Please plan to land the mega-update in updates-testing once the
> >Freeze lifts. U-T is enabled by default on the Beta, so people
> >will pick it up on their first post-install update anyway.
> >
> >
> >
> >Please don't stop this update. There will be few required fixes in
> >this megaupdate which we need early to test.
> >
> >Parag.
> 
> [...]
> 
> I used to be a loyal GNOME 2 user, now I use Mate.  So I'd prefer
> it, if Fedora 29 was not destabilised for the majority of people who
> don't use GNOME.
> 
> Unless it improves using the Mate Desktop environment of course! :-)
> 
> Sorry, but years after GNOME 3 was foisted on us, I still have very
> strong feelings.

ME 2!
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> Gavin
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Re: Congratulations for F24ß

2016-05-11 Thread Fred Smith
On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 08:33:56AM +1200, Gavin Flower wrote:
> On 12/05/16 08:26, Sérgio Basto wrote:
> >On Qua, 2016-05-11 at 14:41 -0400, Fred Smith wrote:
> >>On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 07:26:41PM +0100, Sérgio Basto wrote:
> >>>On Qua, 2016-05-11 at 09:13 -0700, Gordon Messmer wrote:
> >>>>On 05/11/2016 08:01 AM, Peter G. wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>How do you type the Greek beta
> >>>>>from the keyboard (I use US dead keys—always and exclusively)?
> >>>>One way is C-S-u 0 3 b 2 Space
> >>>what you mean by C-S-u ? can't figure out
> >>ctrl-shift-u followed by a zero, a 3, a b, a 2, and a space.
> >>
> >>try it at a terminal prompt, follow it with a space, and see what you
> >>get.
> >>I get a beta.
> >ah only works on gnome terminal , not in konsole
> >
> >http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/12244/how-can-i-type-unicode-ch
> >aracters-into-kdes-konsole-terminal-from-a-gnome-deskt
> >
> >I could workaround running:
> >python -c "print u'\u03b2'"
> >
> >Thanks,
> 
> Works under Mate with LibreOffice.
> 
> You don't the  GNOME 3 for this!

yeah, I failed to mention I was using Mate Terminal, which is probably
derived from Gnome-2 terminal. Didn't try it in LibreOffice, but glad
to hear that it works. I did try it in vi (vim) where it didn't seem
to do anything.


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Re: Congratulations for F24ß

2016-05-11 Thread Fred Smith
On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 07:26:41PM +0100, Sérgio Basto wrote:
> On Qua, 2016-05-11 at 09:13 -0700, Gordon Messmer wrote:
> > On 05/11/2016 08:01 AM, Peter G. wrote:
> > > 
> > > How do you type the Greek beta
> > > from the keyboard (I use US dead keys—always and exclusively)?
> > 
> > One way is C-S-u 0 3 b 2 Space
> 
> what you mean by C-S-u ? can't figure out 

ctrl-shift-u followed by a zero, a 3, a b, a 2, and a space.

try it at a terminal prompt, follow it with a space, and see what you get.
I get a beta.

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Re: Off Topic -- "X-BeenThere: " missing from list message headers.

2015-11-28 Thread Fred Smith
On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 12:42:53PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Mon, 2015-11-23 at 11:35 -0800, Joshua Andrews wrote:
> > Suddenly my message filters stopped working. I've been using "X-BeenThere:"
> > in the message headers to filter list emails. Do I need to create new
> > filters, has X-BeenThere been obsoleted?
> 
> This is probably to do with the mailman3 update. I'd recommend using
> the 'List-id' header for mailing list identification purposes; that
> header is actually defined in an RFC - RFC2919 - so all mailing list
> software should produce it.

do we know if the fedora users list (or, for that matter, any of the
CentOS lists) will be making the same change? I note, when working on
my .procmailrc to handle this change, that I also have all those lists
set up to use X-BeenThere:. (It'd be nice to not have them all appearing
in the wrong place, all of a sudden! :))

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Re: acroread

2015-10-09 Thread Fred Smith
On Fri, Oct 09, 2015 at 04:39:13PM +0100, Sérgio Basto wrote:
> On Sex, 2015-10-09 at 03:02 -0400, Joerg Lechner wrote:

I believe the OP asked about installing acroread (I didn't reply intially
but thought to way downstream, after the original posting had been removed
locally).

On my last 2 or 3 linux installations I purposely did not install acroread.
it's a huge pig and full of holes.

I make do with evince and the PDF app built into firefox. they cover
probably 99% of my needs.

Of course, they may not cover your needs, so YMMV.

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Re: Call for testing: 32-bit AMD CPU owners

2015-09-16 Thread Fred Smith
On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 07:39:57PM -0400, Fred Smith wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 06:11:47PM -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
> > On Wed, 2015-09-16 at 12:08 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > > Hi, folks!
> > > 
> > > We've found an issue in Fedora 23 Beta testing which seems to affect
> > > AMD CPUs when booting the 32-bit images:
> > > 
> > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1263762
> > > 
> > > unfortunately, so far all those who've tested have only had 64-bit
> > > CPUs. So we know there's a problem booting the 32-bit images on some
> > > 64-bit AMD CPUs, but we don't know yet if there's a problem booting
> > > the 32-bit images on 32-bit AMD CPUs, which is obviously the main
> > > reason we still keep the 32-bit images around (people with 64-bit
> > > CPUs
> > > can just use the 64-bit images).
> > 
> > 
> > One additional request: it's unclear right now (and we don't have
> > available hardware to test) if there is also a failure happening on 64-
> > bit AMD systems that are running on i686 Fedora.
> > 
> > If someone out there has access to hardware that hits BZ #1263762,
> > would you please try installing Fedora 22 i686, updating to all the
> > latest stable packages, plus dnf-plugin-system-upgrade from updates-
> > testing and then do an upgrade using the supported mechanism[1] and
> > verify whether A) the upgrade runs or aborts, leaving F22 present and
> > B) if it completes the upgrade, is the system bootable and runnable.
> > 
> > This will help us figure out how serious to rate this issue. (For new
> > installs, we can probably advocate simply using the 64-bit media; for
> > existing installs, irrecoverably breaking on upgrade could be a show-
> > stopper).
> > 
> > [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DNF_system_upgrade
> 
> FYI, using the f23 alpha  iso: 
> Fedora-Server-DVD-i386-23_Alpha.isoFedora-Server-DVD-i386-23_Alpha.iso
> 
> gives a panic message that looks very much like the one shown in 
> Bugzilla.
> 
> This is on an AMD FX6300 six-core processor.
> 
> If this hits the thing you wanted to know about, and if you need any
> more info, you need only ask.
> 
> Fred

PS:
I also have a really old Thunderbird-family 1.0 GHz Athlon and
motherboard. Do any of you think that would be worthwhile to test
this 32-bit issue? or is it too ancient?

If so, I can set it up on a tabletop with some components, tomorrow,
and see what happens...


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Re: Call for testing: 32-bit AMD CPU owners

2015-09-16 Thread Fred Smith
On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 06:11:47PM -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
> On Wed, 2015-09-16 at 12:08 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > Hi, folks!
> > 
> > We've found an issue in Fedora 23 Beta testing which seems to affect
> > AMD CPUs when booting the 32-bit images:
> > 
> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1263762
> > 
> > unfortunately, so far all those who've tested have only had 64-bit
> > CPUs. So we know there's a problem booting the 32-bit images on some
> > 64-bit AMD CPUs, but we don't know yet if there's a problem booting
> > the 32-bit images on 32-bit AMD CPUs, which is obviously the main
> > reason we still keep the 32-bit images around (people with 64-bit
> > CPUs
> > can just use the 64-bit images).
> 
> 
> One additional request: it's unclear right now (and we don't have
> available hardware to test) if there is also a failure happening on 64-
> bit AMD systems that are running on i686 Fedora.
> 
> If someone out there has access to hardware that hits BZ #1263762,
> would you please try installing Fedora 22 i686, updating to all the
> latest stable packages, plus dnf-plugin-system-upgrade from updates-
> testing and then do an upgrade using the supported mechanism[1] and
> verify whether A) the upgrade runs or aborts, leaving F22 present and
> B) if it completes the upgrade, is the system bootable and runnable.
> 
> This will help us figure out how serious to rate this issue. (For new
> installs, we can probably advocate simply using the 64-bit media; for
> existing installs, irrecoverably breaking on upgrade could be a show-
> stopper).
> 
> [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DNF_system_upgrade

FYI, using the f23 alpha  iso: 
Fedora-Server-DVD-i386-23_Alpha.isoFedora-Server-DVD-i386-23_Alpha.iso

gives a panic message that looks very much like the one shown in 
Bugzilla.

This is on an AMD FX6300 six-core processor.

If this hits the thing you wanted to know about, and if you need any
more info, you need only ask.

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Re: Call for testing: 32-bit AMD CPU owners

2015-09-16 Thread Fred Smith
On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 12:08:15PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> Hi, folks!
> 
> We've found an issue in Fedora 23 Beta testing which seems to affect
> AMD CPUs when booting the 32-bit images:
> 
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1263762

Dang. I'd be glad to test it, if one of the cats hadn't urinated
all over my last Athlon-XP motherboard a while back. Despite
considerable effort I could never get it going again. (included
washing it with lukewarm water and drying in front of a fan for
a couple weeks...) :(

I've still got a working Asus eeepc 901 with a 32-bit Atom, but
I guess that's not what you want.


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Re: F23 on PATA or SATA ext. disk?

2015-08-06 Thread Fred Smith
On Thu, Aug 06, 2015 at 02:49:27PM -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 2:45 PM, Felix Miata  wrote:
> > Chris Murphy composed on 2015-08-06 13:19 (UTC-0600):
> >
> >> Adam Williamson wrote:
> >
> >>> On Thu, 2015-08-06 at 13:55 -0400, Joerg Lechner wrote:
> >

> > IOW, answer to OP is no difference whatsover, except possibly for a
> > slight speed difference if USB3 rather than USB2 or Firewire.
> 
> Yeah. And I don't even know if Fedora supports those interfaces for
> booting. Obviously USB is for install media, because it has to, but
> for /boot or root fs? I don't think so. There's no test for it anyway.

i've certianly booted many fedora versions from USB,... both USB HD
and USB flash sticks.  why would you think it might not work?
 

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Re: boot... round 2

2015-06-22 Thread Fred Smith
On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 04:27:07PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Mon, 2015-06-22 at 14:57 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > On Mon, 2015-06-22 at 22:12 +0200, poma wrote:
> > > https://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/mash/rawhide/x86_64/os/images/
> > > boot.iso
> > > 
> > > https://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/work/tasks/6196/10176196/
> > > Fedora-Live-Xfce-x86_64-rawhide-20150621.iso
> > > 
> > > are broken at early boot stage - isolinux.
> > 
> > syslinux got rebuilt with hardening:
> > 
> > http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=662410
> > 
> > note that the 6.03-3 build attempt on 2015-02-21 failed, so this was
> > actually the first successful build with the hardening change. I'd
> > guess that may be related. I'll try a build with the hardening 
> > removed.
> 
> So this is definitely some kind of Rawhide compiler configuration
> issue, I think. I rebuilt from the same .src.rpm (same as -4 but with
> "%undefine _hardened_build" added) twice, once for F23, once for F21,
> and created live images with both builds. The F23 one still doesn't
> boot - seems like "%undefine _hardened_build" isn't enough - but an F23
> live image with an F21 build of isolinux does boot.
> 
> I'll try and figure out the difference between the two builds.

Same version of GCC??

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Re: [ASUS] Laptop issue with hotkeys

2015-05-10 Thread Fred Smith
On Sun, May 10, 2015 at 01:27:03AM -0700, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote:
> The problem is mostly related to ASUS laptop. i would like if any user
> have their hotkeys work out of box.
> Mine somehow refuses to work even though the drivers correctly detected
> it as asus-nb-wmi. See
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1206862

I imagine it may have to do with a specific model, or range
of models.

I haven't tried F22 on mine, so I can't speak to whether or
not it works, but so far I have had zeero trouble with the
hotkeys on it using F19 or Centos 7. I have the Acer Apire
One D255E, a "little" netbook.
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Re: Copy/paste problem -_-

2015-04-23 Thread Fred Smith
On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 12:17:56PM -0400, Bob Goodwin ~ Zuni, Virginia, USA 
wrote:

> I don't know how to restart X? Must be a systemctl restart  command.
> Whatever I tried didn't work, I just reboot and wait ...

If you have enabled the key sequence, you can kill X with
CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE, which will blank the screen, it'll do some flashy
stuff and after a moment give you a normal Gui login screen.

Not sure the process on F22 to enable it, but on my  Centos-6 box
(and I think C7, though I haven't just now verified this), on the
SYSTEM / PREFERENCES / KEYBOARD menu, click the "layouts" tab, click
the "Layout Options" button, and you'll get a long list of things you
can control about how the keyboard works. ONE of them is "Key sequence
to kill the X server". That's the one you want to enable so you can
kill X as I described above. I think on recent Fedoras it's a similar
process to find it, but my memory is kinda hazy on that.

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Re: vlc and f22

2015-04-23 Thread Fred Smith
On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 12:19:42PM +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> On Thu, 23 Apr 2015 11:56:19 +0200, Joachim Backes wrote:
> 
> > Hi F22 testers,
> > 
> > anybody knows a trick to get vlc running in F22? I tried to install the
> > F21 version, but this failed:
> > 
> > dnf install vlc vlc-core
> > Error: package vlc-core-2.2.1-2.fc21.x86_64 requires
> > libfreerdp-cache.so.1.2()(64bit), but none of the providers can be
> > installed.
> 
> Since it's not a package in Fedora's repos, it would be an awesome
> trick, if RPM Fusion leadership made a "state of the union" address.
> The question what's up with RPM Fusion for F22 has come up in various
> places. It seems that while waiting for new infrastructure pieces (koji,
> bodhi, pkgdb and more), the old build infrastructure has not been
> reconfigured to make it possible to build for F22.

and slightly OT: there doesn't seem to be an EL7 repo at rpmfusion, either.
One wonders what's going on there...

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Re: Fedora/Gnome3 : Display Problem on my hardware.

2014-12-12 Thread Fred Smith
On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 11:52:10PM +0530, Madhurjya Roy wrote:
> Thank you for the response!
> 
> As a high school student, I'm no expert in the department but
> shouldn't it be actually a GNOME3 shell bug, considering the fact that
> the same driver worked when used with other DEs?
> 
> And if indeed, it's a driver problem, then the problem should lie
> within AMD's main codebase. That'd explain the fact that even the
> proprietary drivers couldn't resolve the issue.
> 
> I'm also wondering if the problem is in anyway associated with some
> AMD CPUs in general! One of my friends, also noticed some occasional
> minor distortions on his Debian (GNOME) system running an AMD Athlon
> x64 4600+ processor with an old nVidia nForce integrated GPU.

In that case it's not an AMD/ATI graphics processor, it's NVIDIA.
I've been running AMD CPUs with NVidia graphics cards for years
and haven't encountered such problems (though I have to admit that
I can't stand Gnome-3.x and use it only long enough to install Mate.)
I have, otoh, run Gnome-2.x on those systems for all those years and
can't say I've ever seen any such problem on them.

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Re: Fedora/Gnome3 : Display Problem on my hardware.

2014-12-12 Thread Fred Smith
On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 09:19:22PM +0530, Madhurjya Roy wrote:
> Hey guys,
> 

I understand that Gnome-3 simply doesn't work well without 3D
video acceleration. i've not personally experienced that, so I don't
know if your symptoms are what actually occurs without 3D accel.

Now, I know your AMD processor includes a Radeon video unit, so
you SHOULD be getting 3d accel.

however, if you didn't install AMD/ATI's proprietary driver for it,
you're probably depending on the open source driver instead, and
I suppose it simply may not work very well with that particular chip.

As I said, I have no direct experience, so I may be all wet here.

Good luck!

Fred

> My old  PC MoBo recently died and so, I built a  new PC with
> the following hardware specification :
> 
> * Processor : AMD A4-6300K 3.7 GHz Dual Core APU with integrated
> Radeon HD 8370D GPU
> 
> * MoBo : MSI A58M-E33
> 
> * RAM : 4 GB Corsair Value RAM 1600 MHz.
> 
> * HDD : 500 GB WD Caviar @ 7200 rpm
> 
> * Monitor : 19 inch Samsung SyncMaster at 1400 X 900 pixels @ 60-75 Hz
> refresh rate
> 
> So, I went ahead and popped in the Fedora 21 Workstation Disc.
> Anaconda worked well
> and installed Fedora 21.
> 
> But as soon as I restarted my PC and logged in I found the desktop
> flickering! I moved the mouse pointer and it flickered even more
> vigorously and when I pulled through the activities hot corner, I
> could barely see the icons, which appeared like distorted squares.
> 
> Somehow, I managed to open the terminal. All the text in the terminal
> were clearly visible, I installed Xfce desktop and to my surprise it
> worked fine, text and icon everything was clear and perfectly
> usable. Next, I installed KDE and it worked as well. I really had trouble
> understanding the wobbly widgety interface, though! So, I assumed the
> problem is with Gnome 3.
> 
> I reinstalled the complete Gnome desktop and alas, the problem
> persisted! I have used Fedora 20 for quite some time on my
> laptop, so, I booted a live image of Fedora 20, that I had had flashed
> onto a pen drive and still there was the same problem.
> 
> Frustrated, I gave up and installed Ubuntu, Unity worked well but
> when I installed Gnome3, I was back where I was, running a completely
> graphically distorted UI!
> 
> I've since changed many distros (without Gnome as DE) and all of them
> worked fine. Windows 8.1 worked fluidly as well! I am currently using
> Ubuntu 14.10 (with Unity as DE). I found it quite close to Gnome3.
> 
> However, I would still like to use Fedora and since, I'm using this as
> a multimedia PC, so Gnome3 is still my preference.
> 
> >From my observations, it seems to be a Gnome 3 hardware incompatibility 
> >issue.
> 
> I've tried changing refreshing rate, resolution and colour depth and
> nothing could solve the issue! Even switching to the proprietary AMD
> drivers didn't work out.
> 
> Should I file a bug report on BugZilla?
> 
> If anyone's got some idea, please help!
> 
> Thanks,
> Madhurjya Roy
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using FEDU&P for F19(mate) to F21(mate) upgrade?

2014-12-04 Thread Fred Smith
I'm using F19 with the MATE desktop on my acer netbook. I may be upgrading to 
F21 in the
not-far-distant future, and was wondering if anyone has tried using it for 
F19-->F21,
especially with the MATE desktop??

Advice/suggestions will be much appreciated.

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Re: Managing locked up desktops

2014-11-11 Thread Fred Smith
On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 11:36:23AM -0500, Frank wrote:
> In relation to my video problems under 21 Beta
> 
> is there ANY way to deal with the locked up desktop other
> than hitting the power switch? When it's locked-up, ctrl-alt-F
> keys don't work..ctrl-alt-del doesn't work...and the last resort
> alt-sysreq doesn't work. I am really afraid of totally messing up
> the FS to the point where I am forced to remain in Debian.

CTRL/ALT/BKSP ???

ssh to the box from another computer and do a graceful reboot?


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Re: F21 TC-3 installation issue [resolved, sort of--or maybe NOT]

2014-11-04 Thread Fred Smith
On Tue, Nov 04, 2014 at 06:44:23PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Tue, 2014-11-04 at 21:14 -0500, Fred Smith wrote:
> > On Tue, Nov 04, 2014 at 11:04:24AM -0500, Fred Smith wrote:
> > > On Mon, Nov 03, 2014 at 03:20:21PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > > > On Mon, 2014-11-03 at 15:29 -0500, Fred Smith wrote:
> > > > > I installed TC-3 in a VirtualBox VM (latest vbox release, 64-bit) 
> > > > > t'other
> > > > > day. Mostly it went quite well with one really oddball exception. I 
> > > > > don't
> > > > > know if it's a general problem (haven't seen other mentions of it)
> > > > > or not, but it's weird enough I thought to mention it here.
> > > > > 
> > > > > When creating a user in Anaconda, I entered the password twice, as 
> > > > > prompted,
> > > > > and it said they didn't match. so I did it again. and again. and 
> > > > > again. It
> > > > > insisted they didn't match.
> > > > > 
> > > > > tried the same thing for the root password and got the same result.
> > > > > 
> > > > > So, I entered a one-character password, in both fields, and it did not
> > > > > say they didn't match. so I tried two chars. ok so far. by working my 
> > > > > way
> > > > > up to the full password, one char at a time in both fields, it 
> > > > > allowed me
> > > > > to get the whole thing in successfully. This worked for both my 
> > > > > username
> > > > > and for root.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Never seen any such thing before!
> > > > > 
> > > > > If anyone wants me to, I can go try more installs and see if I can
> > > > > reproduce. If I CAN, what sorts of extra info would be helpful when i
> > > > > report it?
> > > > 
> > > Adam, et al:
> > > 
> > > I did two more fresh installs last night to see if I could reproduce
> > > this, and was unable to. So, I have no idea if I was doing something
> > > wrong in the first instance, or what.
> > > 
> > > So I guess it counts as "resolved", for some values therof.
> > 
> > Well, I downloaded the actual beta and I can re-create it, it's a
> > matter of how one types things in, apparently, on the user creation
> > screen. I've exercised this four or five times this evening, and
> > it seems to always work as described below:
> > 
> > When the user creation screen first appears, if I type my name in
> > quickly, it appears as "derF Smith", then when I go on to enter a
> > password, it repeatedly fails. Makes me wonder if whatever caused
> > the reverse-ordering of the letters in my first name may not also be
> > messing with what I type into the password fields.
> > 
> > OTOH, if I wait a few seconds after the user creation appears, and
> > type the first name slowly, all is well: the name is not reversed,
> > and the password is accepted without complaint.
> > 
> > weird, eh?
> 
> Yeah, it is a bit (and would explain why I don't see it with my
> palindromic password...)
> 
> Which image were you using again? If you can, can you test with

today's tests are using: Fedora-Live-Workstation-x86_64-21_Beta-4.iso

> virt-manager and see if it reproduces there?

I don't have it working on this system, and I'd rather not futz
with my main desktop machine to get it working. sorry.


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Re: F21 TC-3 installation issue [resolved, sort of--or maybe NOT]

2014-11-04 Thread Fred Smith
On Tue, Nov 04, 2014 at 11:04:24AM -0500, Fred Smith wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 03, 2014 at 03:20:21PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > On Mon, 2014-11-03 at 15:29 -0500, Fred Smith wrote:
> > > I installed TC-3 in a VirtualBox VM (latest vbox release, 64-bit) t'other
> > > day. Mostly it went quite well with one really oddball exception. I don't
> > > know if it's a general problem (haven't seen other mentions of it)
> > > or not, but it's weird enough I thought to mention it here.
> > > 
> > > When creating a user in Anaconda, I entered the password twice, as 
> > > prompted,
> > > and it said they didn't match. so I did it again. and again. and again. It
> > > insisted they didn't match.
> > > 
> > > tried the same thing for the root password and got the same result.
> > > 
> > > So, I entered a one-character password, in both fields, and it did not
> > > say they didn't match. so I tried two chars. ok so far. by working my way
> > > up to the full password, one char at a time in both fields, it allowed me
> > > to get the whole thing in successfully. This worked for both my username
> > > and for root.
> > > 
> > > Never seen any such thing before!
> > > 
> > > If anyone wants me to, I can go try more installs and see if I can
> > > reproduce. If I CAN, what sorts of extra info would be helpful when i
> > > report it?
> > 
> Adam, et al:
> 
> I did two more fresh installs last night to see if I could reproduce
> this, and was unable to. So, I have no idea if I was doing something
> wrong in the first instance, or what.
> 
> So I guess it counts as "resolved", for some values therof.

Well, I downloaded the actual beta and I can re-create it, it's a
matter of how one types things in, apparently, on the user creation
screen. I've exercised this four or five times this evening, and
it seems to always work as described below:

When the user creation screen first appears, if I type my name in
quickly, it appears as "derF Smith", then when I go on to enter a
password, it repeatedly fails. Makes me wonder if whatever caused
the reverse-ordering of the letters in my first name may not also be
messing with what I type into the password fields.

OTOH, if I wait a few seconds after the user creation appears, and
type the first name slowly, all is well: the name is not reversed,
and the password is accepted without complaint.

weird, eh?

Fred



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Re: F21 TC-3 installation issue [resolved, sort of]

2014-11-04 Thread Fred Smith
On Mon, Nov 03, 2014 at 03:20:21PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Mon, 2014-11-03 at 15:29 -0500, Fred Smith wrote:
> > I installed TC-3 in a VirtualBox VM (latest vbox release, 64-bit) t'other
> > day. Mostly it went quite well with one really oddball exception. I don't
> > know if it's a general problem (haven't seen other mentions of it)
> > or not, but it's weird enough I thought to mention it here.
> > 
> > When creating a user in Anaconda, I entered the password twice, as prompted,
> > and it said they didn't match. so I did it again. and again. and again. It
> > insisted they didn't match.
> > 
> > tried the same thing for the root password and got the same result.
> > 
> > So, I entered a one-character password, in both fields, and it did not
> > say they didn't match. so I tried two chars. ok so far. by working my way
> > up to the full password, one char at a time in both fields, it allowed me
> > to get the whole thing in successfully. This worked for both my username
> > and for root.
> > 
> > Never seen any such thing before!
> > 
> > If anyone wants me to, I can go try more installs and see if I can
> > reproduce. If I CAN, what sorts of extra info would be helpful when i
> > report it?
> 
Adam, et al:

I did two more fresh installs last night to see if I could reproduce
this, and was unable to. So, I have no idea if I was doing something
wrong in the first instance, or what.

So I guess it counts as "resolved", for some values therof.

> That's, um, a rather strange one. It's hard to know what kind of info is
> best apart from the obvious 'how can you reproduce it' - AFAIK those are
> pretty standard GTK+ text entry boxes and all anaconda does is compare
> their contents.
> 
> So basically the bug is this:
> 
> 1. type 'correcthorsebatterystaple' in box 1
> 2. type 'correcthorsebatterystaple' in box 2
> 
> NO MATCH
> 
> 1. type 'c' in box 1
> 2. type 'c' in box 2
> 3. type 'o' in box 1
> 4. type 'o' in box 2
> 5. type 'r' in box 1
> 6. type 'r' in box 2
> 
> (SOME TIME LATER)
> 
> 49. type 'e' in box 1
> 50. type 'e' in box 2
> 
> MATCH
> 
> right? I guess the other info is whether it depends on the actual
> password used, and if so, what's a password that triggers it.
> 
> I definitely haven't seen that in my F21 testing. I tend to use the
> password '11', but I do use 'correcthorse@"' sometimes for keyboard
> layout tests.

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F21 TC-3 installation issue

2014-11-03 Thread Fred Smith

I installed TC-3 in a VirtualBox VM (latest vbox release, 64-bit) t'other
day. Mostly it went quite well with one really oddball exception. I don't
know if it's a general problem (haven't seen other mentions of it)
or not, but it's weird enough I thought to mention it here.

When creating a user in Anaconda, I entered the password twice, as prompted,
and it said they didn't match. so I did it again. and again. and again. It
insisted they didn't match.

tried the same thing for the root password and got the same result.

So, I entered a one-character password, in both fields, and it did not
say they didn't match. so I tried two chars. ok so far. by working my way
up to the full password, one char at a time in both fields, it allowed me
to get the whole thing in successfully. This worked for both my username
and for root.

Never seen any such thing before!

If anyone wants me to, I can go try more installs and see if I can
reproduce. If I CAN, what sorts of extra info would be helpful when i
report it?

thanks!
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Re: rdd package

2014-10-14 Thread Fred Smith
On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 04:03:44PM -0300, Bruno Medeiros wrote:
>Hi!
>I had a failing HD a couple weeks ago and needed something to copy a
>image file inside this HD as far as I could. I was getting I/O errors
>during the rsync of the image, so rdd seemed the best tool to do this,
>but unfortunately it's is not available in Fedora.

I dunno what rdd is, but if you're trying to create an image of a
HD with read errors, I suggest ddrescue (not dd_rescue, two different
programs.)

I recently used it to recover two HDs with read errors, successfully.
You can find it here:
https://www.gnu.org/software/ddrescue/ddrescue.html

you may need to compile it, depending on what system youwant to
use it on. I was able to compile a static binary so I could use it
on j-random live CD without issues.

>[1]http://sourceforge.net/projects/rdd/
>Ubuntu has rdd version 2.0.7 available, and after suffering a little, I
>could build this same version on an old Fedora 12 machine and use the
>binaries on the failing host, which was a Fedora 19.
>rdd 3.x build "perfectly" on Fedora 19, but shows the help message for
>any list of parameters.
>Does anyone have a history on this? Has Fedora had this package in the
>past? Is it possible to maintain this package in Fedora?
>Thanks in advance,
>--
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> 
> References
> 
>1. http://sourceforge.net/projects/rdd/

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Re: can someone suggest why firefox is so &$*&^%*#^&%* slow?

2014-09-27 Thread Fred Smith
On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 11:01:41AM -0400, Chuck Anderson wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 07:36:19PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > On Wed, 2014-09-24 at 10:44 -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> > >   i am at my wit's end with firefox on my fedora rawhide system -- to
> > > say it's nad-grindingly slow would be charitable. just now, i tried
> > > clicking on another tab ... some 30 seconds later, i am still waiting
> > > for the tab to change, oh, wait, there it is.
> > > 
> > >   watching any sort of youtube video is excruciating ... while audio
> > > is typically, i will frequently get *maybe* one frame change a second,
> > > i kid you not. i frequently get javascripts that are not responding,
> > > and i'm asked whether i want to wait for them.
> > > 
> > >   is there *something* i can do to debug this? what firefox
> > > configuration settings should i be looking at? i'm willing to try
> > > anything because, at this point, firefox is utterly unusable. even
> > > something as simple as scrolling in a window is painfully slow.
> > > 
> > >   oh, and i'm on a quad core i7, so i'm pretty sure horsepower isn't
> > > the problem.
> > 
> > FWIW, I've been seeing some odd 'laggy' behaviour in F21 on my desktop
> > lately, which does mostly seem to be in Firefox. I do have sixteen
> > zillion tabs open, but I do that a lot and it's not happened before, and
> > RAM isn't exhausted (I have 16GB, using about 8GB). I don't have Flash
> > installed. Not had time to look into it in more detail yet, but it does
> > seem like something squiffy is going on.
> > 
> > The symptoms are basically that things like switching tabs, highlighting
> > text, copy/pasting, or input appearing after I start to type lag by 1-3
> > seconds, and sometimes presses/characters that occur within the lag time
> > are lost.
> 
> I'm having problems with FF on Fedora 19 that just started recently,
> maybe related, maybe not.  In my case, the entire desktop is
> freezing--even the mouse cursor won't move for 5-10 seconds.  It
> always seems to happen when opening a new blank tab in FF.

which reminds me of an issue I've been unable to diagnose, similar but
not the same:
viewing flash video from any site showing flash videos (youtube, cnn,
etc.) using FF, it'll play along very nicely, but every 5-15 (or so)
seconds, the video will pause for 1-3 seconds while the sound continues,
then the video starts moving again.

I recently noted that the right-click menu in the flash window contains
an item something like "info for nerds", which shows among other things,
dropped frames.

so if I watch that window. whenever that pause occurs, as soon as the
video resumes, that window shows a clump of dropped frames. I can't
correlate the timing with anything else that's running. Not even the
Folding At Home client, which I can stop and the pauses still occur.

This is on a six-core AMD Vishera processor, which should have plenty
of ponies under the hood for flash video, even when FAH is running.

so far, I've not had another browser sopporting flash to test.
But the time is coming when I'll get irritated enuff to go find one.

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Re: updated kernel not used by default

2014-09-14 Thread Fred Smith
On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 02:51:29PM -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
> 
> On Sep 14, 2014, at 8:38 AM, Joshua Andrews  wrote:
> 
> > 
> > 
> > On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 12:13 PM, Chris Murphy  
> > wrote:
> > Got a bug where the upgraded kernel isn't being booted by default. I'm not 
> > exactly sure why, or what release criteria to use, so I set it to final 
> > based on it being a security concern.
> > 
> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1141414

This is probably completely unrelated to my little problem from a few
years ago, but here it is anyway, just in case:
I once had a case, in which I was running software Raid, with a pair of
drives in RAID-1 (CentOS 5.x, that was).

At one point I noticed that I wasn't running the latest kernel, even
though I KNEW I had been installing all the updates.

After some considerable head-banging, I discovered that one of the
two drives had been ejected from the RAID pair, and for reasons I can't
remember anymore, when kernel updates were happening, they were happening
on the one remaining member of the (degraded) raid pair, but the system,
was BOOTING from the OTHER member of the pair.

Subsequently, I learned that root was getting the emails from mdraid
about the degraded array, and he doesn't read his email very often. So,
now they are sent directly to me so things like that won't happen anymore.

An interesting learning experience, that was.


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Re: [DRI3] Problems on old Intel GPUs

2014-07-03 Thread Fred Smith
On Thu, Jul 03, 2014 at 11:46:08PM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote:
> >> Though none of this matters for Felix' case, since the 8xx series GPUs
> >> (among their many many other flaws) don't have shader support at all.
> >> Turns out hardware's gotten a lot more sophisticated in the intervening
> >> 13 years since that design...
> >
> > Felix claims he has like six different cards all failing in
> > approximately the same way, including some i9xx and later as well as the
> > i8xx ones.
> 
> I'm seeing issues with my Asus eeepc 901 first gen Atom.

Peter:

Can you describe your issues? Is it with Rawhide, or a real release?

I have a 901 and put F20 on it recently. Haven't used it for much of
anything since, though, and haven't seen any video problems (perhaps
because I have used it very little since).

(at the moment it's sitting here snapping a picture with a web-cam
once a minute, which doesn't exercise the GPU to speak of. or at all.)

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Re: has anyone added a brother MFC7460DN printer to their rawhide system?

2014-07-03 Thread Fred Smith
On Thu, Jul 03, 2014 at 02:28:58PM -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> On Thu, 3 Jul 2014, Fred Smith wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, Jul 03, 2014 at 01:12:41PM -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> > >
> > >   i've been fighting for the last couple of hours to add a network
> > > printer to my rawhide system. the shared work area where i hang out
> > > has a brother MFC7460DN printer on the network, at 192.168.2.126, and
> > > i've verified that i can ping it, so that's a start.
> > >
> > >   i've read a few different alleged installation instructions which
> > > all seem to differ. what's the recommended recipe for this?
> > >
> > >   googling a while ago brought me here:
> > >
> > > http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=279494
> > >
> > > so i downloaded both lpr and cups rpm packages from brother and
> > > installed them. i'm not sure if i need to install "a2ps", and i'd
> > > rather not as it would drag down a ton of dependencies.
> > >
> > >   i've browsed to localhost:631 to see if i can add a printer there,
> > > but it seems that it sets up a new printer as if it's connnected via
> > > USB and not on the network.
> > >
> > >   i'm going to keep messing around, but if anyone out there has set up
> > > that printer (or something suitably similar), i'm open to guidance.
> > >
> > > rday
> >
> > as I've just recently learned, there is a brother printer installer
> > program for Linux that removes all the futzing around... you just
> > run it, answer the questions and it downloads whatever it needs from
> > the Brother site, does some magic incatations and voila!
> > the one I have at the moment is "linux-brprinter-installer-2.0.0-1"
> > and I'm not sure of the URL where I got it, but pls to hang on a
> > mo while I go look...
> > [short pause]
> > Ah, here it is:
> >
> > http://support.brother.com/g/b/downloadend.aspx?c=us_ot&lang=en&prod=mfc7460dn_all&os=127&dlid=dlf006893_000&flang=4&type3=625
> >
> > If you read all the notes, you'll see there is some mention of Fedora
> > 10/11/12, but I've used it successfully on Fedora 19 and 20, as well
> > as Centos 6, with a Brother DCP7065DN.
> 
>   amusingly, i tried that very thing earlier and when i invoked it, it
> asked for the model name, i typed "7460dn" or something moderately
> meaningful, at which point it just hung. can you remember the exact
> command line you used to invoke it?

I don't RECALL putting anything on the commandline. I think it asked for
the printer model. in your case I think you'd put in "MFC7460DN"

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Re: has anyone added a brother MFC7460DN printer to their rawhide system?

2014-07-03 Thread Fred Smith
On Thu, Jul 03, 2014 at 02:52:16PM -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> On Thu, 3 Jul 2014, Fred Smith wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, Jul 03, 2014 at 01:12:41PM -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> > >
> > >   i've been fighting for the last couple of hours to add a network
> > > printer to my rawhide system. the shared work area where i hang out
> > > has a brother MFC7460DN printer on the network, at 192.168.2.126, and
> > > i've verified that i can ping it, so that's a start.
> > >
> > >   i've read a few different alleged installation instructions which
> > > all seem to differ. what's the recommended recipe for this?
> > >
> > >   googling a while ago brought me here:
> > >
> > > http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=279494
> > >
> > > so i downloaded both lpr and cups rpm packages from brother and
> > > installed them. i'm not sure if i need to install "a2ps", and i'd
> > > rather not as it would drag down a ton of dependencies.
> > >
> > >   i've browsed to localhost:631 to see if i can add a printer there,
> > > but it seems that it sets up a new printer as if it's connnected via
> > > USB and not on the network.
> > >
> > >   i'm going to keep messing around, but if anyone out there has set up
> > > that printer (or something suitably similar), i'm open to guidance.
> > >
> > > rday
> >
> > as I've just recently learned, there is a brother printer installer
> > program for Linux that removes all the futzing around... you just
> > run it, answer the questions and it downloads whatever it needs from
> > the Brother site, does some magic incatations and voila!
> > the one I have at the moment is "linux-brprinter-installer-2.0.0-1"
> > and I'm not sure of the URL where I got it, but pls to hang on a
> > mo while I go look...
> > [short pause]
> > Ah, here it is:
> >
> > http://support.brother.com/g/b/downloadend.aspx?c=us_ot&lang=en&prod=mfc7460dn_all&os=127&dlid=dlf006893_000&flang=4&type3=625
> >
> > If you read all the notes, you'll see there is some mention of Fedora
> > 10/11/12, but I've used it successfully on Fedora 19 and 20, as well
> > as Centos 6, with a Brother DCP7065DN.
> 
>   oh, for the love of mutt:
> 
> $ sudo bash linux-brprinter-installer-2.0.0-1 MFC7460DN
> You are going to install following packages.
>mfc7460dnlpr-2.1.0-1.i386.deb
>cupswrapperMFC7460DN-2.0.4-2.i386.deb
>brscan4-0.4.2-1.amd64.deb
>brscan-skey-0.2.4-1.amd64.deb
> OK? [y/N] ->
> 
>   wha? oh, here we go:
> 
> if [ "$(which dpkg 2> /dev/null)" != '' ];then
>PKG=deb
> elif [ "$(which rpm 2> /dev/null)" != '' ];then
>PKG=rpm
>...
> 
>   sure, checking for the existence of "dpkg" is *just* the way to
> identify the base packaging system. :-P

:(

but does it actually work for you?


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Re: has anyone added a brother MFC7460DN printer to their rawhide system?

2014-07-03 Thread Fred Smith
On Thu, Jul 03, 2014 at 01:12:41PM -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> 
>   i've been fighting for the last couple of hours to add a network
> printer to my rawhide system. the shared work area where i hang out
> has a brother MFC7460DN printer on the network, at 192.168.2.126, and
> i've verified that i can ping it, so that's a start.
> 
>   i've read a few different alleged installation instructions which
> all seem to differ. what's the recommended recipe for this?
> 
>   googling a while ago brought me here:
> 
> http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=279494
> 
> so i downloaded both lpr and cups rpm packages from brother and
> installed them. i'm not sure if i need to install "a2ps", and i'd
> rather not as it would drag down a ton of dependencies.
> 
>   i've browsed to localhost:631 to see if i can add a printer there,
> but it seems that it sets up a new printer as if it's connnected via
> USB and not on the network.
> 
>   i'm going to keep messing around, but if anyone out there has set up
> that printer (or something suitably similar), i'm open to guidance.
> 
> rday

as I've just recently learned, there is a brother printer installer
program for Linux that removes all the futzing around... you just
run it, answer the questions and it downloads whatever it needs from
the Brother site, does some magic incatations and voila!
the one I have at the moment is "linux-brprinter-installer-2.0.0-1"
and I'm not sure of the URL where I got it, but pls to hang on a
mo while I go look...
[short pause]
Ah, here it is:

http://support.brother.com/g/b/downloadend.aspx?c=us_ot&lang=en&prod=mfc7460dn_all&os=127&dlid=dlf006893_000&flang=4&type3=625

If you read all the notes, you'll see there is some mention of Fedora
10/11/12, but I've used it successfully on Fedora 19 and 20, as well
as Centos 6, with a Brother DCP7065DN.

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Re: Mozilla Firefox

2014-05-02 Thread Fred Smith
On Fri, May 02, 2014 at 10:44:59AM -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
> poma wrote:
> >  xulrunner  i686  29.0-1.fc21rawhide   
> > 25 M
> 
> Protip: You can remove xulrunner from your system now. Firefox no
> longer requires the standalone package.

Unless some other app uses it. (e.g., some builds of Xiphos)

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Re: Fedora 20 TC1 AMIs

2013-11-14 Thread Fred Smith
On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 06:17:27PM -0600, Dennis Gilmore wrote:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Final TC1 images have been uploaded to EC2 and are available at 
> 
> ami-fb81a492 : us-east-1 image for i386
> ami-6581a40c : us-east-1 image for x86_64
> 
> additionally if your looking to the AMI's they have been added to files

Foolish question: What is an "AMI" ??


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Re: F19: kernel 3.10.4 and USB mouse hangs/disconnects

2013-08-04 Thread Fred Smith
On Sun, Aug 04, 2013 at 06:36:52PM +0100, Pedro Francisco wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 4, 2013 at 5:08 PM, Pedro Francisco
>  wrote:
> > On Sun, Aug 4, 2013 at 3:01 PM, Pedro Francisco
> >  wrote:
> >> Since kernel 3.10.4 my mouse has been disconnecting. Am I the only one
> >> with issues?
> >
> > It is happening on 3.10.3 as well.
> > My new guess is it is related to kernel 3.10 (3.10.3 was my first 3.10
> > series kernel).
> 
> Weird. It still happens in 3.9.5 . I'm going to dismiss this as
> hardware failure. Sorry for the noise.

I missed the earlier "episodes" in this thread, so I don't know what
specific hardware was involved. however, let me throw a bit of "ground
truth" (as they say in the remote sensing business) into the discussion:
If we're talking about F19, my Logitech wireless/USB mouse hasn't
exhibited that problem on my F19 netbook (Aspire One D255E netbook). I
don't recall the mouse's model number, it isn't printed on the device
*anywhere*, but it was being sold at BJ's a couple years ago for ten bucks
(so I bought a couple of 'em.) FWIW. my $0.02. etc.


but it reminds me of way back in the RH6 days (not RHEL 6) when I first
got a USB mouse, it would work fine for days or weeks then all of a
sudden quit working. through some cut and try I learned that if I did
a rmmod and subsequent insmod of one of the *hci modules it would start
working again. Never did find the cause, eventually as hardware and
software underwent upgrades I ceased to encounter it.


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Re: user list

2013-07-07 Thread Fred Smith
On Sun, Jul 07, 2013 at 07:33:55AM -0600, Michal Jaegermann wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 06, 2013 at 07:21:52PM -0700, Richard Vickery wrote:
> > On Sat, Jul 6, 2013 at 6:08 PM, David  wrote:
> > > On 7/6/2013 9:02 PM, Richard Vickery wrote:
> > >> ... found that the nice list
> > >> of users to get into the system has been replaced by a bar.
> > >
> > > Funny. Others have been bit*hing about the list for several release
> > > cycles.  :-)
> 
> If you really want that list then an alternative lightdm allows you
> to configure that aspect with 'greeter-hide-users' which can be set to
> true or false in a configuration file. At least it used to and I did not

This doesn't seem to be working in F19 using lightdm and Mate. No matter
what I do it keeps on showing the user list.

Any thoughts?

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Re: F19/Mate, strange desktop problem.

2013-06-24 Thread Fred Smith
On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 10:33:10PM -0500, Rex Dieter wrote:
> Fred Smith wrote:
> 
> > While trying to work thru problem with my netbook not going to sleep
> > when the lid is closed (in relation to some of the bugs discussed on
> > this last in the last several days) I had cause to do a yum update that
> > downloaded a pile of updates from  the testing repo.
> > 
> > ever since then, my desktop has no icons, and the right-click/context
> > menu on the desktop does not work.
> > 
> > Here's a list of the Mate packages currently installed:
> > 
> ...
> > mate-file-manager.x86_64  1.6.1-7.fc19@updates-testing
> ...
> > Not having seen anyone else complaining about this, I guess it's not
> > widespread, but if anyone has any clues for me I'd appreciate it!
> 
> Looks like you probably want to back out of:
> 
> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-11332/mate-file-manager-1.6.1-7.fc19
> 
> -- rex

Thanks Rex, that did the trick. I 'preciate the guidance.


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F19/Mate, strange desktop problem.

2013-06-23 Thread Fred Smith
All:

While trying to work thru problem with my netbook not going to sleep
when the lid is closed (in relation to some of the bugs discussed on
this last in the last several days) I had cause to do a yum update that
downloaded a pile of updates from  the testing repo.

ever since then, my desktop has no icons, and the right-click/context
menu on the desktop does not work.

Here's a list of the Mate packages currently installed:

compiz-mate.x86_641:0.8.8-23.fc19 @updates-testing
libmatekbd.x86_64 1.6.0-1.fc19@fedora 
libmatekeyring.x86_64 1.6.0-1.fc19@fedora 
libmateweather.x86_64 1.6.1-1.fc19@fedora 
libmatewnck.x86_641.6.0-1.fc19@fedora 
mate-applets.x86_64   1.6.1-4.fc19@updates-testing
mate-backgrounds.noarch   1.6.0-1.fc19@fedora 
mate-bluetooth.x86_64 1.6.0-1.fc19@fedora 
mate-bluetooth-libs.x86_641.6.0-1.fc19@fedora 
mate-calc.x86_64  1.6.0-1.fc19@fedora 
mate-character-map.x86_64 1.6.0-4.fc19@fedora 
mate-control-center.x86_641.6.0-1.fc19@fedora 
mate-desktop.x86_64   1.6.1-8.fc19@fedora 
mate-desktop-libs.x86_64  1.6.1-8.fc19@fedora 
mate-dialogs.x86_64   1.6.0-1.fc19@fedora 
mate-file-archiver.x86_64 1.6.0-1.fc19@fedora 
mate-file-manager.x86_64  1.6.1-7.fc19@updates-testing
mate-file-manager-extensions.x86_64   1.6.1-7.fc19@updates-testing
mate-file-manager-image-converter.x86_64
mate-file-manager-open-terminal.x86_64
mate-file-manager-sendto.x86_64   1.6.0-1.fc19@fedora 
mate-icon-theme.noarch1.6.1-1.fc19@updates-testing
mate-image-viewer.x86_64  1.6.0-1.fc19@fedora 
mate-keyring.x86_64   1.6.0-2.fc19@fedora 
mate-keyring-pam.x86_64   1.6.0-2.fc19@fedora 
mate-media.x86_64 1.6.0-2.fc19@updates-testing
mate-menu-editor.noarch   1.6.0-1.fc19@fedora 
mate-menus.x86_64 1.6.0-3.fc19@updates-testing
mate-menus-libs.x86_641.6.0-3.fc19@updates-testing
mate-netspeed.x86_64  1.6.0-1.fc19@fedora 
mate-notification-daemon.x86_64   1.6.0-2.fc19@updates-testing
mate-panel.x86_64 1.6.0-3.fc19@fedora 
mate-panel-libs.x86_641.6.0-3.fc19@fedora 
mate-polkit.x86_641.6.0-1.fc19@fedora 
mate-power-manager.x86_64 1.6.1-3.fc19@updates-testing
mate-screensaver.x86_64   1.6.0-1.fc19@fedora 
mate-session-manager.x86_64   1.6.0-3.fc19@fedora 
mate-settings-daemon.x86_64   1.6.0-2.fc19@updates-testing
mate-system-log.x86_641.6.0-3.fc19@fedora 
mate-system-monitor.x86_641.6.0-1.fc19@fedora 
mate-terminal.x86_64  1.6.1-6.fc19@fedora 
mate-text-editor.x86_64   1.6.0-1.fc19@fedora 
mate-themes.noarch1.6.1-2.fc19@fedora 
mate-utils.x86_64 1.6.0-3.fc19@fedora 
mate-window-manager.x86_641.6.2-3.fc19@fedora  

Not having seen anyone else complaining about this, I guess it's not
widespread, but if anyone has any clues for me I'd appreciate it!

Thanks!

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Re: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/selinux-policy-3.12.1-52.fc19

2013-06-17 Thread Fred Smith
On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 03:13:40PM -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> On Sun, 16 Jun 2013 15:52:04 -0400
> Fred Smith  wrote:
> 
> > Hi all!
> > 
> > I'm trying to get this selinux policy update for my F19 system and I
> > keep being told there is nothing to update. I'm thinking it looks to
> > me as if it should be available.
> > 
> > suggestions welcome.
> > 
> > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/selinux-policy-3.12.1-52.fc19 
> 
> This is an issue with the new mirrormanager we just rolled out. 
> 
> We are working on the problem. Hopefully fixed soon. 
> 
> Sorry for any trouble. 

No problem, just wanted to make sure it wasn't broken due to me having
done something bad. it's now working, thanks!


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https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/selinux-policy-3.12.1-52.fc19

2013-06-16 Thread Fred Smith
Hi all!

I'm trying to get this selinux policy update for my F19 system and I
keep being told there is nothing to update. I'm thinking it looks to me
as if it should be available.

suggestions welcome.

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/selinux-policy-3.12.1-52.fc19 

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