Re: proposal: remove "opportunity to carry out other desirable work" from the Exceptional Cases considerations in the blocker bug SOP

[Jaap Bosman]

Agree with Matthew, becauseThe Perfect is the enemy of the good.

On 22-10-2020 09:29, Harold Dost wrote:

Are there any examples where it might have been cited I the past?
If so, maybe narrow the definition to things which would result in a 
less buggy release.


Otherwise +1 from my perspective.

On Wed 21 Oct 2020 at 20:07, Matthew Miller > wrote:


In
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_blocker_bug_process#Exceptional_cases

,

there is a list of factors we may consider when dealing with last
minute or
difficult to resolve blockers. One item on the list is:

* Whether delaying the release may give us an opportunity to carry
out other desirable work

I would like to remove this from the list, and perhaps go so far
as to include it
as something we _shouldn't_ consider.

There is always an infinite amount of desirable work, and it's
tempting to
push the schedule just to get one more thing in. But! Admiral
Ackbar meme
gif! that temptation is a trap! Any such additional work increases
the risk
of further delay, and actually pushes off getting all the other
work that
*did* make the release from getting to users.

If something isn't ready, there is always the next release, and
often there
is the possibility of providing whatever other desirable work via
an update
-- or through an alternate module stream after the the release.

What do you think? Reasonable? Thanks!

-- 
Matthew Miller

mailto:mat...@fedoraproject.org>>
Fedora Project Leader
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Re: F33 testing request: bluetooth mice

[Jaap Bosman]

Hi No problem here, Logitech M535 mouse.


On 14-10-2020 19:03, Peter Robinson wrote:

A new proposed blocker bug showed up today:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1874082

the issue is that if you have a bluetooth mouse working, then suspend
the system, when you resume the bluetooth mouse will not be working any
more. You have to go into the GNOME Bluetooth settings applet to get it
to work again.

So far we have two reports, but they happened to have the exact same
mouse. Can other folks who have bluetooth mice (and even, perhaps,
other bluetooth hardware - keyboards, headsets?) - ideally different
ones! - please test this and report their findings either here or to
the bug? It's important to know what range of hardware this affects.

The problem here is it could be very hardware/firmware dependent, not
just for the mouse but the controller as well. I have seen issues
across a bunch of BT devices that don't happen on others and that can
be very out of our control.
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karma

[Jaap Bosman]

Hi

testing with   easy-karma

just get this reply after login with fedora-easy-karma in F31. :

]$ fedora-easy-karma --fas-username=jpbn

Getting list of installed packages...
Waiting for oraculum instance to return list of packages in 
updates-testing...


found 143 testing updates

=

No updates when I try to update.

What is wrong?

Jpbn


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Re: Unable to login to wiki

[Jaap Bosman]

Hi, problems log in FAS.

yesterday and tody.

Jaap

On 05-10-2020 07:55, Geoffrey Marr wrote:

Hi all,

Wondering if anyone else is unable to log into the wiki[0] at this 
time? Every time I try, I am greeted by a "Fatal error authenticating 
user." I have tried clearing my cookies and cache, and on two separate 
machines.


Geoff Marr
IRC: coremodule

[0] 
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Special:PluggableAuthLogin?error=invalid_scope_description=unknown+scope+https%3A%2F%2Fid.fedoraproject.org%2Fscope%2Fagreements+requested=a64359ac7034da4972c1a42433fc62a4


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Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 33 Candidate Beta-1.3 Available Now!

[Jaap Bosman]

Language problem?

In 
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_Package_Sets_Minimal_Package_Install


it says Enter the *INSTALLATION SOURCE* screen and ensure the box /Don't 
install the latest available software updates./ is checked. If using the 
generic network install image, the source should be set to /Closest 
mirror/. Click /Done/


/In the Dutch install. screengives a  choice between
/

/1. Only install newest available software (trasaltion from Dutch)/

/2. Only install standard versions from instalation source.
/

/For test I did choose #2 and that went okay./

/
/

/
/

On 22-09-2020 21:14, rawh...@fedoraproject.org wrote:

According to the schedule [1], Fedora 33 Candidate Beta-1.3 is now
available for testing. Please help us complete all the validation
testing! For more information on release validation testing, see:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Release_validation_test_plan

Test coverage information for the current release can be seen at:
https://www.happyassassin.net/testcase_stats/33

You can see all results, find testing instructions and image download
locations, and enter results on the Summary page:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_33_Beta_1.3_Summary

The individual test result pages are:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_33_Beta_1.3_Installation
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_33_Beta_1.3_Base
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_33_Beta_1.3_Server
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_33_Beta_1.3_Cloud
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_33_Beta_1.3_Desktop
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_33_Beta_1.3_Security_Lab

All Beta priority test cases for each of these test pages [2] must
pass in order to meet the Beta Release Criteria [3].

Help is available on #fedora-qa on irc.freenode.net [4], or on the
test list [5].

Current Blocker and Freeze Exception bugs:
http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current

[1] http://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-33/f-33-quality-tasks.html
[2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Release_validation_test_plan
[3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_33_Beta_Release_Criteria
[4] irc://irc.freenode.net/fedora-qa
[5] https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/test@lists.fedoraproject.org/
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Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 33 Candidate Beta-1.3 Available Now!

[Jaap Bosman]

You know the page https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_USB_fmw  
wants us to upgrade/download |sudo dnf --enablerepo=updates-testing 
--refresh --best install mediawriter

|

|that will not  install ||the required testing version (4.0.95)
|

|but a new version.  mediawriter-4.1.4-4.fc32.x86_64
|

|I trust that is OK?
|

|jpbn
|

On 22-09-2020 21:14, rawh...@fedoraproject.org wrote:

According to the schedule [1], Fedora 33 Candidate Beta-1.3 is now
available for testing. Please help us complete all the validation
testing! For more information on release validation testing, see:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Release_validation_test_plan

Test coverage information for the current release can be seen at:
https://www.happyassassin.net/testcase_stats/33

You can see all results, find testing instructions and image download
locations, and enter results on the Summary page:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_33_Beta_1.3_Summary

The individual test result pages are:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_33_Beta_1.3_Installation
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_33_Beta_1.3_Base
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_33_Beta_1.3_Server
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_33_Beta_1.3_Cloud
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_33_Beta_1.3_Desktop
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_33_Beta_1.3_Security_Lab

All Beta priority test cases for each of these test pages [2] must
pass in order to meet the Beta Release Criteria [3].

Help is available on #fedora-qa on irc.freenode.net [4], or on the
test list [5].

Current Blocker and Freeze Exception bugs:
http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current

[1] http://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-33/f-33-quality-tasks.html
[2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Release_validation_test_plan
[3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_33_Beta_Release_Criteria
[4] irc://irc.freenode.net/fedora-qa
[5] https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/test@lists.fedoraproject.org/
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Re: Introduction Mail - Pruthvi

[Jaap]

hello


something wrong with dnf or mirrors?

can not test any update on https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/

even the older ones.

regards jpnb

Jaap


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introduction

[Jaap Bosman]

Hello

Was Testing Fedora and cannot edit test results now As of august. (Anti 
spam rules?)


Use Fedora for years now and like to test.

nick on IRC jpbn




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Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora-IoT 33 RC 20200703.0 nightly compose nominated for testing

[Jaap Bosman]

Hi,

On https://www.happyassassin.net/nightlies.html  I see 
Fedora-Rawhide-20200704.n.1 
 
and not jul 3?


where is 20200703? for testing?


On 03-07-2020 19:07, Adam Williamson wrote:

On Fri, 2020-07-03 at 16:49 +, rawh...@fedoraproject.org wrote:

Announcing the creation of a new nightly release validation test event
for Fedora-IoT 33 RC 20200703.0. Please help run some tests for this
nightly compose if you have time. For more information on nightly
release validation testing, see:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Release_validation_test_plan

Just in case anyone was wondering - we didn't get an event for the last
month because I'd inadvertently left a setting in the infra ansible
plays which caused an old version of relvalconsumer without IoT support
to be deployed :( I fixed that now so things will be back to normal.
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Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 33 Rawhide 20200620.n.1 nightly compose nominated for testing

[Jaap Bosman]

Hello

today servers are being moved?

cannot read 
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/quick-docs/creating-and-using-a-live-installation-image/index.html 
and other docs.


will wait until all is clear.

vriendelijke groeten Jaap Bosman


On 21-06-2020 18:11, rawh...@fedoraproject.org wrote:

Announcing the creation of a new nightly release validation test event
for Fedora 33 Rawhide 20200620.n.1. Please help run some tests for this
nightly compose if you have time. For more information on nightly
release validation testing, see:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Release_validation_test_plan

Test coverage information for the current release can be seen at:
https://www.happyassassin.net/testcase_stats/33

You can see all results, find testing instructions and image download
locations, and enter results on the Summary page:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_33_Rawhide_20200620.n.1_Summary

The individual test result pages are:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_33_Rawhide_20200620.n.1_Installation
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_33_Rawhide_20200620.n.1_Base
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_33_Rawhide_20200620.n.1_Server
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_33_Rawhide_20200620.n.1_Cloud
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_33_Rawhide_20200620.n.1_Desktop
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_33_Rawhide_20200620.n.1_Security_Lab

Thank you for testing!
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