Re: Annoying bug in NM1.0.0-8

2015-04-22 Thread Dan Mossor

On 04/21/2015 01:31 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:

It may be some weir interaction between the router and NM. I'm using
dd-wrt on the router. What about you, danofsatx?


Chris Murphy


My router is a Motorola NVG589 Uverse Gateway.

I tracked my issue down - it is a change in how firewalld processed my 
direct rules. I'm not exactly sure what happened during fedup, but I 
stopped firewalld, flushed the IPTables rules, and restarted firewalld, 
and it appears to have reprocessed my rules properly.


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Re: Annoying bug in NM1.0.0-8

2015-04-22 Thread Pavlo Rudyi
On Sun, 2015-04-19 at 15:36 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
 On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 2:57 PM, Dan Mossor danofs...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
  I've noticed something else,also - I can't get F22 to see my wired 
  interface
  to compare with wireless to see if I can narrow it down some more. 
  The GUI
  applet simply won't activate the interface, and nmcli tells me
  
  Error: Connection activation failed: Connection 'Home' is not 
  available on
  the device enp4s0 at this time.
 
 I'm not having that problem, I can connect to wired but it's not 
 used.
 The laptop continues to use wireless unless I turn wireless off, then
 it falls back to wired. But this behavior isn't new, as far as I know
 it's always worked this (incorrrect) way.
 
 -- 
 Chris Murphy


All works for me with the wired and wireless interfaces , I use
OpenWrt on my router.



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Re: Annoying bug in NM1.0.0-8

2015-04-22 Thread poma
On 22.04.2015 12:29, Pavlo Rudyi wrote:
 On Sun, 2015-04-19 at 15:36 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
 On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 2:57 PM, Dan Mossor danofs...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

 I've noticed something else,also - I can't get F22 to see my wired 
 interface
 to compare with wireless to see if I can narrow it down some more. 
 The GUI
 applet simply won't activate the interface, and nmcli tells me

 Error: Connection activation failed: Connection 'Home' is not 
 available on
 the device enp4s0 at this time.

 I'm not having that problem, I can connect to wired but it's not 
 used.
 The laptop continues to use wireless unless I turn wireless off, then
 it falls back to wired. But this behavior isn't new, as far as I know
 it's always worked this (incorrrect) way.

 -- 
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 All works for me with the wired and wireless interfaces , I use
 OpenWrt on my router.
 
 
 
 Regards,
 Paul.
 


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Re: Annoying bug in NM1.0.0-8

2015-04-21 Thread Chris Murphy
It may be some weir interaction between the router and NM. I'm using
dd-wrt on the router. What about you, danofsatx?


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Re: Annoying bug in NM1.0.0-8

2015-04-21 Thread Ankur Sinha
On Sun, 2015-04-19 at 20:17 -0500, Dan Mossor wrote:
 Ok, my wired networking problem has been hashed out - it was a 
 physical 
 layer issue. That led me to discovering that the problem is worse 
 than I 
 feared, it exists on wired networking also, and can't be tied to 
 Intel 
 drivers since both systems I tested this on have either a Qualcomm 
 Atheros or Realtek gigabit ethernet NIC.
 
 I have filed a bug.
 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1213194

Weird. I haven't seen this issue at all. Feduped to F22 a few days ago
and everything appears to work fine. I haven't noticed a network issue
at all. Have you checked journalctl to see if there are any errors
there?

NetworkManager-1.0.0-8.fc22.x86_64

btw, rsyslog.org appears down:
http://isup.me/rsyslog.org

The other sites worked just fine.

00:19.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation Ethernet Connection
I217-LM (rev 05)

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Re: Annoying bug in NM1.0.0-8

2015-04-21 Thread Ed Greshko

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On 04/21/15 22:39, Ankur Sinha wrote:
 Weird. I haven't seen this issue at all. Feduped to F22 a few days ago

I've not seen any problems either.  I've got both a fresh F22 B3 install and a 
Fedup from F21.

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Re: Annoying bug in NM1.0.0-8

2015-04-19 Thread Chris Murphy
On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 2:57 PM, Dan Mossor danofs...@gmail.com wrote:

 I've noticed something else,also - I can't get F22 to see my wired interface
 to compare with wireless to see if I can narrow it down some more. The GUI
 applet simply won't activate the interface, and nmcli tells me

 Error: Connection activation failed: Connection 'Home' is not available on
 the device enp4s0 at this time.

I'm not having that problem, I can connect to wired but it's not used.
The laptop continues to use wireless unless I turn wireless off, then
it falls back to wired. But this behavior isn't new, as far as I know
it's always worked this (incorrrect) way.

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Re: Annoying bug in NM1.0.0-8

2015-04-19 Thread Dan Mossor

On 04/19/2015 05:54 PM, Scott Robbins wrote:

On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 03:36:11PM -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:

On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 2:57 PM, Dan Mossor danofs...@gmail.com wrote:


I've noticed something else,also - I can't get F22 to see my wired interface
to compare with wireless to see if I can narrow it down some more. The GUI
applet simply won't activate the interface, and nmcli tells me

Error: Connection activation failed: Connection 'Home' is not available on
the device enp4s0 at this time.


I'm not having that problem, I can connect to wired but it's not used.
The laptop continues to use wireless unless I turn wireless off, then
it falls back to wired. But this behavior isn't new, as far as I know
it's always worked this (incorrrect) way.


Isn't that a NetworkManager, rather than Fedora, thing?

DISCLAIMER--I usually remove NetworkManager and then, if I have a machine
that uses both wired and wireless, don't set my network to start on boot as
what I want to use changes, depending upon the situation.

NetworkManager has come a long way since the days of randomly resetting 
your connections. I thought it was fairly solid at the 0.9 release, and 
use it on just about every system now including my servers. The Cockpit 
integration with NetworkManager has made it dead easy and nearly 
failproof, and nmcli is in a powerful tool in it's own right.


However, the usefulness of 1.0 is suspect at this point. I can only get 
to half of the internet, which is basically useless (IMHO).


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Re: Annoying bug in NM1.0.0-8

2015-04-19 Thread Chris Murphy
On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 9:20 AM, Dan Mossor danofs...@gmail.com wrote:
 Greetings, folks.

 I and at least one other individual have noticed an annoying bug with
 NetworkManager-1.0.0-8.fc22.x86_64 but we aren't sure of the root cause so
 we can't legitimately file a BZ on it yet. The issue we're seeing is that
 with a fully updated Fedora 22 Beta system, once NM is in operation for a
 bit it starts to loose connectivity. Not total connectivity, but partial.

I'm having the same experience, which is sometimes networking works
for some thing some of the time sometimes. Google searches work,
logging in to sites like outlook.com works, but then hangs when email
is to be downloaded or sent. If I reboot the same hardware to OS X the
problems don't happen. If I reboot Fedora 22, it might be fixed for a
short while, or it might misbehave right away. I can't figure out the
pattern.

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Re: Annoying bug in NM1.0.0-8

2015-04-19 Thread Dan Mossor

On 04/19/2015 02:21 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:

On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 9:20 AM, Dan Mossor danofs...@gmail.com wrote:

Greetings, folks.

I and at least one other individual have noticed an annoying bug with
NetworkManager-1.0.0-8.fc22.x86_64 but we aren't sure of the root cause so
we can't legitimately file a BZ on it yet. The issue we're seeing is that
with a fully updated Fedora 22 Beta system, once NM is in operation for a
bit it starts to loose connectivity. Not total connectivity, but partial.


I'm having the same experience, which is sometimes networking works
for some thing some of the time sometimes. Google searches work,
logging in to sites like outlook.com works, but then hangs when email
is to be downloaded or sent. If I reboot the same hardware to OS X the
problems don't happen. If I reboot Fedora 22, it might be fixed for a
short while, or it might misbehave right away. I can't figure out the
pattern.

I've rebooted this machine many, many times due to unrelated kded5 
crashes, but the problem has not once gone away since it appeared.


I've noticed something else,also - I can't get F22 to see my wired 
interface to compare with wireless to see if I can narrow it down some 
more. The GUI applet simply won't activate the interface, and nmcli 
tells me


Error: Connection activation failed: Connection 'Home' is not available 
on the device enp4s0 at this time.


So, I seem to have a multitude of issues, the core component of which 
seems to be NetworkManager.


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Re: Annoying bug in NM1.0.0-8

2015-04-19 Thread Scott Robbins
On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 03:36:11PM -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
 On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 2:57 PM, Dan Mossor danofs...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  I've noticed something else,also - I can't get F22 to see my wired interface
  to compare with wireless to see if I can narrow it down some more. The GUI
  applet simply won't activate the interface, and nmcli tells me
 
  Error: Connection activation failed: Connection 'Home' is not available on
  the device enp4s0 at this time.
 
 I'm not having that problem, I can connect to wired but it's not used.
 The laptop continues to use wireless unless I turn wireless off, then
 it falls back to wired. But this behavior isn't new, as far as I know
 it's always worked this (incorrrect) way.

Isn't that a NetworkManager, rather than Fedora, thing?  

DISCLAIMER--I usually remove NetworkManager and then, if I have a machine
that uses both wired and wireless, don't set my network to start on boot as
what I want to use changes, depending upon the situation.

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Re: Annoying bug in NM1.0.0-8

2015-04-19 Thread Dan Mossor

On 04/19/2015 10:20 AM, Dan Mossor wrote:

Greetings, folks.

I and at least one other individual have noticed an annoying bug with
NetworkManager-1.0.0-8.fc22.x86_64 but we aren't sure of the root cause
so we can't legitimately file a BZ on it yet. The issue we're seeing is
that with a fully updated Fedora 22 Beta system, once NM is in operation
for a bit it starts to loose connectivity. Not total connectivity, but
partial. For example, I can run a search on Google for anything and get
back the usual tens or hundreds of results. but on a single page of
results I can only successfully open 2 or 3 of them.

Specifically, a few sites I'm noticing I can no longer reach:
https://www.happyassassin.net/
http://docs.kde.org
http://mirrors.rpmfusion.org
http://rsyslog.org

However, all Fedora Project, Red Hat CentOS and GNOME links work just
fine. Pages from the Stack Exchange family of sites are hit and miss,
but mostly miss. Also, it is only http traffic - I can hit these sites
with ftp, ssh or rsync where supported. I have tried using Chrome,
Firefox, Konquerer, ReKonq, wget and curl and get the same result every
time. To aid in troubleshooting, I am providing a link to the pcap [0]
of my wget attempt against the RPM Fusion mirror site - it's
disappointing, really.

The only commonality I've discovered among the affected systems is that
they are using Intel wireless adapters. Specifically in my case, a
Centrino 2230 and a Centrino 2200. The other user I mentioned earlier
indicated that he believed the fault may lie in the routing tables, but
I have not confirmed or ruled this out yet - I'm still shooting in the
dark.

I know it is not network issues at large, as on this network I have
other devices - Android, ChromeOS, and Windows 8.1 devices - that all
work fine. In fact, on one of my affected systems, it was working just
fine on F21 and NM 0.9.10 before I updated it to F22 last night with
fedup. This points directly to F22 being at fault, but like I mentioned,
I don't know if it is NetworkManager or Intel Wireless drivers.

Thoughts? Concerns? Criticisms?

Dan


[0] http://goo.gl/qG76ey - a shortened link to Google Drive, full link:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0ByM4hcGUETFIS0RBLW8wMU5UOFUauthuser=0



Ok, my wired networking problem has been hashed out - it was a physical 
layer issue. That led me to discovering that the problem is worse than I 
feared, it exists on wired networking also, and can't be tied to Intel 
drivers since both systems I tested this on have either a Qualcomm 
Atheros or Realtek gigabit ethernet NIC.


I have filed a bug.
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1213194


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Annoying bug in NM1.0.0-8

2015-04-19 Thread Dan Mossor

Greetings, folks.

I and at least one other individual have noticed an annoying bug with 
NetworkManager-1.0.0-8.fc22.x86_64 but we aren't sure of the root cause 
so we can't legitimately file a BZ on it yet. The issue we're seeing is 
that with a fully updated Fedora 22 Beta system, once NM is in operation 
for a bit it starts to loose connectivity. Not total connectivity, but 
partial. For example, I can run a search on Google for anything and get 
back the usual tens or hundreds of results. but on a single page of 
results I can only successfully open 2 or 3 of them.


Specifically, a few sites I'm noticing I can no longer reach:
https://www.happyassassin.net/
http://docs.kde.org
http://mirrors.rpmfusion.org
http://rsyslog.org

However, all Fedora Project, Red Hat CentOS and GNOME links work just 
fine. Pages from the Stack Exchange family of sites are hit and miss, 
but mostly miss. Also, it is only http traffic - I can hit these sites 
with ftp, ssh or rsync where supported. I have tried using Chrome, 
Firefox, Konquerer, ReKonq, wget and curl and get the same result every 
time. To aid in troubleshooting, I am providing a link to the pcap [0] 
of my wget attempt against the RPM Fusion mirror site - it's 
disappointing, really.


The only commonality I've discovered among the affected systems is that 
they are using Intel wireless adapters. Specifically in my case, a 
Centrino 2230 and a Centrino 2200. The other user I mentioned earlier 
indicated that he believed the fault may lie in the routing tables, but 
I have not confirmed or ruled this out yet - I'm still shooting in the dark.


I know it is not network issues at large, as on this network I have 
other devices - Android, ChromeOS, and Windows 8.1 devices - that all 
work fine. In fact, on one of my affected systems, it was working just 
fine on F21 and NM 0.9.10 before I updated it to F22 last night with 
fedup. This points directly to F22 being at fault, but like I mentioned, 
I don't know if it is NetworkManager or Intel Wireless drivers.


Thoughts? Concerns? Criticisms?

Dan


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https://drive.google.com/open?id=0ByM4hcGUETFIS0RBLW8wMU5UOFUauthuser=0


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