Re: F18: when closing the lid, pm/sleep.d hooks not being run
And there are dozens of applications out there that used to utilize the UPower signal and haven't been given proper chance to adjust to the new approach, so they are broken at the moment. Dozens ? Name them, please. I've fixed the ones I've found (which was just NM, really). From the top of my head: - NM - Gajim (my original report) - doesn't disconnect on suspend, leaving me hanging on the network and losing incoming messages for ~15 minutes - probably many other IM clients will experience the issues as well - KDE - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=859227 - Dropbox - seems to be stuck and needs to be restarted - probably anything third-party I haven't done extensive testing. But if some high-profile applications didn't make it, it's highly probable that a lot of low-profile applications are affected as well. It's great that you've tried to fix existing applications, really. I just argue that if we made sure the legacy approach is supported for a while together with the new approach, the users would benefit. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: F18: when closing the lid, pm/sleep.d hooks not being run
- Original Message - What has changed in f18 is that GNOME components (gnome-settings-daemon, gnome-shell) are now using logind, because it offers features that we want (inhibitors and delay inhibitors). upower has also been changed to use logind, and NetworkManager is listening for PrepareForSleep. NM should, but it does not yet: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=902332 I wrote that patch half a year ago... this is an unfortunate side-effect of f18 being frozen for as long as it has been... And there are dozens of applications out there that used to utilize the UPower signal and haven't been given proper chance to adjust to the new approach, so they are broken at the moment. Dozens ? Name them, please. I've fixed the ones I've found (which was just NM, really). -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
F18: when closing the lid, pm/sleep.d hooks not being run
/etc/pm/sleep.d/* hooks are not being run when closing the lid. For example, I just resumed my laptop and a script on /etc/pm/sleep.d/ which just logs each time it gets called has not been called. They seem to run when I select suspend from the menu. 1) can anyone else verify? 2) is this a bug? Or a feature? Thanks in Advance, -- Pedro -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: F18: when closing the lid, pm/sleep.d hooks not being run
/etc/pm/sleep.d/* hooks are not being run when closing the lid. For example, I just resumed my laptop and a script on /etc/pm/sleep.d/ which just logs each time it gets called has not been called. They seem to run when I select suspend from the menu. 1) can anyone else verify? 2) is this a bug? Or a feature? It's this: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=690713 and this: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=58950 Probably not a bug from developer perspective. But the current situation is a mess, that's true. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: F18: when closing the lid, pm/sleep.d hooks not being run
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 08:44:39AM -0500, Kamil Paral wrote: 1) can anyone else verify? 2) is this a bug? Or a feature? It's this: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=690713 You are not authorized to access bug #690713. Well, that does not help very much unless you happen to be authorized. https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=58950 That is better but it reads like we are sorry but this will remain broken until _other_ applications will get fixed if I understand responses correctly. Michal -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: F18: when closing the lid, pm/sleep.d hooks not being run
Michal Jaegermann wrote: You are not authorized to access bug #690713. Well, that does not help very much unless you happen to be authorized. I can see the bug just fine. Have you tried logging in? Maybe you are banned? -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: F18: when closing the lid, pm/sleep.d hooks not being run
- Original Message - On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 08:44:39AM -0500, Kamil Paral wrote: 1) can anyone else verify? 2) is this a bug? Or a feature? It's this: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=690713 You are not authorized to access bug #690713. Well, that does not help very much unless you happen to be authorized. https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=58950 That is better but it reads like we are sorry but this will remain broken until _other_ applications will get fixed if I understand responses correctly. If there is anything to fix here, it is that we need a suitable signal from the kernel - until then, there will be various user-space mechanisms that all have their own about-to-suspend and resume signals: * pm-utils scripts get called if you use pm-suspend * upowers NotifySleep signal is emitted if you use upower to suspend * loginds PrepareForSleep signal is emitted if you use logind What has changed in f18 is that GNOME components (gnome-settings-daemon, gnome-shell) are now using logind, because it offers features that we want (inhibitors and delay inhibitors). upower has also been changed to use logind, and NetworkManager is listening for PrepareForSleep. Matthias -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: F18: when closing the lid, pm/sleep.d hooks not being run
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 12:04:12PM -0600, Michael Cronenworth wrote: Michal Jaegermann wrote: You are not authorized to access bug #690713. Well, that does not help very much unless you happen to be authorized. I can see the bug just fine. Have you tried logging in? Good for you but I am logged in on bugzilla; right now. Maybe you are banned? Not on many other bugs but somehow on this one. M. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: F18: when closing the lid, pm/sleep.d hooks not being run
On Thu, 2013-01-31 at 15:46 -0700, Michal Jaegermann wrote: On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 12:04:12PM -0600, Michael Cronenworth wrote: Michal Jaegermann wrote: You are not authorized to access bug #690713. Well, that does not help very much unless you happen to be authorized. I can see the bug just fine. Have you tried logging in? Good for you but I am logged in on bugzilla; right now. Maybe you are banned? Not on many other bugs but somehow on this one. M. It is a bug that has security implications or also applies to RHEL and was created by a paying customer who requested privacy. Nothing you can do about it. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: F18: when closing the lid, pm/sleep.d hooks not being run
On Thu, 2013-01-31 at 17:45 -0600, John Morris wrote: On Thu, 2013-01-31 at 15:46 -0700, Michal Jaegermann wrote: On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 12:04:12PM -0600, Michael Cronenworth wrote: Michal Jaegermann wrote: You are not authorized to access bug #690713. Well, that does not help very much unless you happen to be authorized. I can see the bug just fine. Have you tried logging in? Good for you but I am logged in on bugzilla; right now. Maybe you are banned? Not on many other bugs but somehow on this one. M. It is a bug that has security implications or also applies to RHEL and was created by a paying customer who requested privacy. Nothing you can do about it. This is a BGO bug, not an RH one. I can see it fine myself and can't see any visibility restrictions on it, so it's odd that Michael can't. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: F18: when closing the lid, pm/sleep.d hooks not being run
On Thu, 2013-01-31 at 16:04 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: On Thu, 2013-01-31 at 17:45 -0600, John Morris wrote: On Thu, 2013-01-31 at 15:46 -0700, Michal Jaegermann wrote: On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 12:04:12PM -0600, Michael Cronenworth wrote: Michal Jaegermann wrote: You are not authorized to access bug #690713. Well, that does not help very much unless you happen to be authorized. I can see the bug just fine. Have you tried logging in? Good for you but I am logged in on bugzilla; right now. Maybe you are banned? Not on many other bugs but somehow on this one. M. It is a bug that has security implications or also applies to RHEL and was created by a paying customer who requested privacy. Nothing you can do about it. This is a BGO bug, not an RH one. I can see it fine myself and can't see any visibility restrictions on it, so it's odd that Michael can't. I'm a 'normal' and I get the same message in a big red box when I try to look at that BZ number. It's locked. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: F18: when closing the lid, pm/sleep.d hooks not being run
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 6:16 PM, John Morris jmor...@beau.org wrote: On Thu, 2013-01-31 at 16:04 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: On Thu, 2013-01-31 at 17:45 -0600, John Morris wrote: On Thu, 2013-01-31 at 15:46 -0700, Michal Jaegermann wrote: On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 12:04:12PM -0600, Michael Cronenworth wrote: Michal Jaegermann wrote: You are not authorized to access bug #690713. Well, that does not help very much unless you happen to be authorized. I can see the bug just fine. Have you tried logging in? Good for you but I am logged in on bugzilla; right now. Maybe you are banned? Not on many other bugs but somehow on this one. M. It is a bug that has security implications or also applies to RHEL and was created by a paying customer who requested privacy. Nothing you can do about it. This is a BGO bug, not an RH one. I can see it fine myself and can't see any visibility restrictions on it, so it's odd that Michael can't. I'm a 'normal' and I get the same message in a big red box when I try to look at that BZ number. It's locked. Whose bugzilla instance are you looking at? RedHat or Gnome? The RedHat bug with that bug number is indeed locked, but is THE WRONG BUGZILLA INSTANCE. The correct URL (which was explicitly listed above, but has been cut off in subsequent replies) is: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=690713 -- Jeff Ollie -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: F18: when closing the lid, pm/sleep.d hooks not being run
On Thu, 2013-01-31 at 18:16 -0600, John Morris wrote: On Thu, 2013-01-31 at 16:04 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: On Thu, 2013-01-31 at 17:45 -0600, John Morris wrote: On Thu, 2013-01-31 at 15:46 -0700, Michal Jaegermann wrote: On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 12:04:12PM -0600, Michael Cronenworth wrote: Michal Jaegermann wrote: You are not authorized to access bug #690713. Well, that does not help very much unless you happen to be authorized. I can see the bug just fine. Have you tried logging in? Good for you but I am logged in on bugzilla; right now. Maybe you are banned? Not on many other bugs but somehow on this one. M. It is a bug that has security implications or also applies to RHEL and was created by a paying customer who requested privacy. Nothing you can do about it. This is a BGO bug, not an RH one. I can see it fine myself and can't see any visibility restrictions on it, so it's odd that Michael can't. I'm a 'normal' and I get the same message in a big red box when I try to look at that BZ number. It's locked. OK, I just want to make double triple sure: you guys are not going to https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=690713 , right? This is not an RH bug we're talking about. The URL is https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=690713 . -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: F18: when closing the lid, pm/sleep.d hooks not being run
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 04:37:59PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: OK, I just want to make double triple sure: you guys are not going to https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=690713 , right? This is not an RH bug we're talking about. The URL is https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=690713 . Do not mind me. It is pretty clear that I do not know how to read and Adam is here correct. M. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
