Re: F38 dnf modules isn't going to be functional

[Peter Robinson]

On Thu, Mar 16, 2023 at 11:54 AM Kamil Paral  wrote:
>
> On Thu, Mar 16, 2023 at 10:14 AM Peter Robinson  wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 15, 2023 at 2:20 PM Frantisek Zatloukal  
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> But that's microdnf, not the current default dnf. I don't think microdnf 
>>> was used by default in any of our blocking spins/images.
>>
>>
>> We ship microdnf in the arm minimal image due to issues with dnf and memory 
>> usage[1] and it's used quite widely on devices like the Raspberry Pi Zero2W. 
>> The Minimal image is blocking.
>
>
> So if I understand it correctly, microdnf will get a major upgrade, now based 
> on the dnf5 library. Dnf5 doesn't support modularity in its CLI yet, and 
> neither will microdnf. But that shouldn't really matter, because the older 
> microdnf also haven't supported modules, right? So there should be no loss of 
> functionality... ? Even on the arm minimal image, which is blocking.

The lack of modularity support is not an issue as far as I'm concerned.
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Re: F38 dnf modules isn't going to be functional

[Kamil Paral]

On Thu, Mar 16, 2023 at 10:14 AM Peter Robinson 
wrote:

>
> On Wed, Mar 15, 2023 at 2:20 PM Frantisek Zatloukal 
> wrote:
>
>> But that's microdnf, not the current default dnf. I don't think microdnf
>> was used by default in any of our blocking spins/images.
>>
>
> We ship microdnf in the arm minimal image due to issues with dnf and
> memory usage[1] and it's used quite widely on devices like the Raspberry Pi
> Zero2W. The Minimal image is blocking.
>

So if I understand it correctly, microdnf will get a major upgrade, now
based on the dnf5 library. Dnf5 doesn't support modularity in its CLI yet,
and neither will microdnf. But that shouldn't really matter, because the
older microdnf also haven't supported modules, right? So there should be no
loss of functionality... ? Even on the arm minimal image, which is blocking.
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Re: F38 dnf modules isn't going to be functional

[Peter Robinson]

On Wed, Mar 15, 2023 at 2:20 PM Frantisek Zatloukal 
wrote:

> But that's microdnf, not the current default dnf. I don't think microdnf
> was used by default in any of our blocking spins/images.
>

We ship microdnf in the arm minimal image due to issues with dnf and memory
usage[1] and it's used quite widely on devices like the Raspberry Pi
Zero2W. The Minimal image is blocking.

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1907030


> On Wed, Mar 15, 2023 at 1:44 PM Sumantro Mukherjee 
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 15, 2023 at 2:09 PM Frantisek Zatloukal 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> But the dnf > dnf5 switch will happen in F39, not F38, so that shouldn't
>>> be an issue that it's not supported in DNF 5, no?
>>>
>>
>> I checked and it says F38 as target release
>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/MajorUpgradeOfMicrodnf
>>
>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 15, 2023 at 8:32 AM Sumantro Mukherjee 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 DNF5 test day is running and we have figured that dnf modules command
 is being worked on.
 The functionality can be tracked [0] and this is targeted to be
 complete in F39.
 If users, have modules enabled in F37 and upgrade to F38, things will
 be fine.
 However, fresh installs or installations which wanna play with modules
 in F38 won't be
 able to do that.

 DNF team suggests a workaround how to modify modules without using any
 tool - modify files in /etc/dnf/modules.d. if you want to reset nodejs
 module you can use rm /etc/dnf/modules.d/nodejs

 If this is a problematic thing, we should communicate this to the users.

 [0] https://github.com/rpm-software-management/dnf5/issues/146

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Re: F38 dnf modules isn't going to be functional

[Lukas Ruzicka]

On Wed, Mar 15, 2023 at 3:20 PM Frantisek Zatloukal 
wrote:

> But that's microdnf, not the current default dnf. I don't think microdnf
> was used by default in any of our blocking spins/images.
>

Totally correct. Thanks for the clarification.
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Re: F38 dnf modules isn't going to be functional

[Geraldo Simião Kutz]

Dnf5 as default is a f39 proposal

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/39/ChangeSet


https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ReplaceDnfWithDnf5

Em qua, 15 de mar de 2023 04:32, Sumantro Mukherjee 
escreveu:

> DNF5 test day is running and we have figured that dnf modules command
> is being worked on.
> The functionality can be tracked [0] and this is targeted to be complete
> in F39.
> If users, have modules enabled in F37 and upgrade to F38, things will be
> fine.
> However, fresh installs or installations which wanna play with modules
> in F38 won't be
> able to do that.
>
> DNF team suggests a workaround how to modify modules without using any
> tool - modify files in /etc/dnf/modules.d. if you want to reset nodejs
> module you can use rm /etc/dnf/modules.d/nodejs
>
> If this is a problematic thing, we should communicate this to the users.
>
> [0] https://github.com/rpm-software-management/dnf5/issues/146
>
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Re: F38 dnf modules isn't going to be functional

[Frantisek Zatloukal]

But that's microdnf, not the current default dnf. I don't think microdnf
was used by default in any of our blocking spins/images.

On Wed, Mar 15, 2023 at 1:44 PM Sumantro Mukherjee 
wrote:

>
>
> On Wed, Mar 15, 2023 at 2:09 PM Frantisek Zatloukal 
> wrote:
>
>> But the dnf > dnf5 switch will happen in F39, not F38, so that shouldn't
>> be an issue that it's not supported in DNF 5, no?
>>
>
> I checked and it says F38 as target release
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/MajorUpgradeOfMicrodnf
>
>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 15, 2023 at 8:32 AM Sumantro Mukherjee 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> DNF5 test day is running and we have figured that dnf modules command
>>> is being worked on.
>>> The functionality can be tracked [0] and this is targeted to be complete
>>> in F39.
>>> If users, have modules enabled in F37 and upgrade to F38, things will be
>>> fine.
>>> However, fresh installs or installations which wanna play with modules
>>> in F38 won't be
>>> able to do that.
>>>
>>> DNF team suggests a workaround how to modify modules without using any
>>> tool - modify files in /etc/dnf/modules.d. if you want to reset nodejs
>>> module you can use rm /etc/dnf/modules.d/nodejs
>>>
>>> If this is a problematic thing, we should communicate this to the users.
>>>
>>> [0] https://github.com/rpm-software-management/dnf5/issues/146
>>>
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Re: F38 dnf modules isn't going to be functional

[Sumantro Mukherjee]

On Wed, Mar 15, 2023 at 2:09 PM Frantisek Zatloukal 
wrote:

> But the dnf > dnf5 switch will happen in F39, not F38, so that shouldn't
> be an issue that it's not supported in DNF 5, no?
>

I checked and it says F38 as target release
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/MajorUpgradeOfMicrodnf


>
> On Wed, Mar 15, 2023 at 8:32 AM Sumantro Mukherjee 
> wrote:
>
>> DNF5 test day is running and we have figured that dnf modules command
>> is being worked on.
>> The functionality can be tracked [0] and this is targeted to be complete
>> in F39.
>> If users, have modules enabled in F37 and upgrade to F38, things will be
>> fine.
>> However, fresh installs or installations which wanna play with modules
>> in F38 won't be
>> able to do that.
>>
>> DNF team suggests a workaround how to modify modules without using any
>> tool - modify files in /etc/dnf/modules.d. if you want to reset nodejs
>> module you can use rm /etc/dnf/modules.d/nodejs
>>
>> If this is a problematic thing, we should communicate this to the users.
>>
>> [0] https://github.com/rpm-software-management/dnf5/issues/146
>>
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Re: F38 dnf modules isn't going to be functional

[Frantisek Zatloukal]

But the dnf > dnf5 switch will happen in F39, not F38, so that shouldn't be
an issue that it's not supported in DNF 5, no?

On Wed, Mar 15, 2023 at 8:32 AM Sumantro Mukherjee 
wrote:

> DNF5 test day is running and we have figured that dnf modules command
> is being worked on.
> The functionality can be tracked [0] and this is targeted to be complete
> in F39.
> If users, have modules enabled in F37 and upgrade to F38, things will be
> fine.
> However, fresh installs or installations which wanna play with modules
> in F38 won't be
> able to do that.
>
> DNF team suggests a workaround how to modify modules without using any
> tool - modify files in /etc/dnf/modules.d. if you want to reset nodejs
> module you can use rm /etc/dnf/modules.d/nodejs
>
> If this is a problematic thing, we should communicate this to the users.
>
> [0] https://github.com/rpm-software-management/dnf5/issues/146
>
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F38 dnf modules isn't going to be functional

[Sumantro Mukherjee]

DNF5 test day is running and we have figured that dnf modules command
is being worked on.
The functionality can be tracked [0] and this is targeted to be complete in F39.
If users, have modules enabled in F37 and upgrade to F38, things will be fine.
However, fresh installs or installations which wanna play with modules
in F38 won't be
able to do that.

DNF team suggests a workaround how to modify modules without using any
tool - modify files in /etc/dnf/modules.d. if you want to reset nodejs
module you can use rm /etc/dnf/modules.d/nodejs

If this is a problematic thing, we should communicate this to the users.

[0] https://github.com/rpm-software-management/dnf5/issues/146

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