Re: Self Introduction: Atmn Patel

2014-12-31 Thread Ankur Sinha
Hi Atmn,

On Sun, 2014-12-28 at 16:51 -0500, Atmn Patel wrote:
 As for my computer skills, I know C and Python to the level of an
 introductory undergraduate course. I am currently learning Java in my
 spare time. I am also working towards getting the Linux Foundation
 Certified System Administrator. As for project experience, I have
 none. I believe that I am an excellent match for the project because I
 am willing to learn and dedicate time to the project (I have no
 experience whatsoever).

I'm assuming you've mailed the test list because you've already read the
Join Fedora[1] page and would like to get your hands dirty with QA?
The simplest would be to get started with testing updates as detailed
here[2].
 

If you're looking for admin work, the fedora infrastructure team is
where you should head to[3]. If you're looking to work on coding tasks,
the infra team does develop applications mostly in Python that you can
help with[4]. Other than that, the coding that takes place in the
community is mostly patches that are sent upstream. We endeavour to make
all our contributions to upstream directly and do not carry local
patches unless absolutely necessary[5].

I hope you have a great time in the community. Please feel free to ask
us any questions. We also have a dedicated mailing list and channel for
newcomers here:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Join_SIG

Lastly, happy new year everyone!

[1] http://fedoraproject.org/join-fedora
[2] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Updates-testing
[3] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/GettingStarted
[4] https://apps.fedoraproject.org/
[5] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Staying_close_to_upstream_projects

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Re: Self Introduction: Atmn Patel

2014-12-29 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2014-12-29 at 17:13 +1300, Gavin Flower wrote:
   Glad to see you brilliant guy here in this list:)
   As you may know,there are lots of nice professional engineers
 and
  I'm sure you will learn a lot during your contribution.
   Enjoy your time together with Fedora,and I have confidence it
  will be a life long.
 
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Also, please trim excess quoting, especially list boilerplate.

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Re: Self Introduction: Atmn Patel

2014-12-29 Thread Chris Murphy
Well if we're going to argue about which practice is a bad idea, it's
quoting by default that's now mainly to blame for these problems. All
clients can top post. Most can thread related emails. Many mobile
clients can't bottom post or can't be configured to do it by default.
The list rules about bottom posting are antiquated by predating
mobile. Quoting and bottom posting combined originate from the
pleistocene of email and can be used to carbon date its proponents.
Without quoting, the top/bottom/trim argument doesn't even come up.

I mostly agree with mattmanser.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5233428

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Re: Self Introduction: Atmn Patel

2014-12-29 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
No it isn't. Yes, but so what? And of course the ones that want a quick
idea of where we are appreciate seeing the context. The mobile clients
copied a broken model introduced by Microsoft precisely because their
users didn't have archived mailing lists. And so on.

(If this isn't all clear, maybe it would have helped had I quoted the
parts I was referring to).

poc

PS The question of how and when to quote falls under the mailing list
Guidelines. Feel free to propose changes if you feel some of us are
being old-fashioned.

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Self Introduction: Atmn Patel

2014-12-28 Thread Atmn Patel
Hello all,

My name is Atmn Patel. I am a high school student in a small town near
Windsor, ON, Canada. I am technically in grade 10, but I'm looking at a
very early graduation. I was going to apply to the University of Toronto
this year, but didn't because my parents wouldn't let me go. My dream
school is MIT, double major in CS and Physics to pursue a doctorate in
Quantum Computing. I started with Linux in grade 6, with Ubuntu (when they
still used GNOME) but after they switched to Unity, I changed to Arch
Linux. I stuck with Arch until about 10 months ago when I decided that I
actually want to start contributing, I changed to Fedora. I spent the last
10 months getting used to it, understanding it, and toying with it, and now
I think its time I start contributing.

As for my computer skills, I know C and Python to the level of an
introductory undergraduate course. I am currently learning Java in my spare
time. I am also working towards getting the Linux Foundation Certified
System Administrator. As for project experience, I have none. I believe
that I am an excellent match for the project because I am willing to learn
and dedicate time to the project (I have no experience whatsoever).

Time Zone: EST
Interests: N/A

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Re: Self Introduction: Atmn Patel

2014-12-28 Thread Gavin Flower

On 29/12/14 10:51, Atmn Patel wrote:

Hello all,

My name is Atmn Patel. I am a high school student in a small town near 
Windsor, ON, Canada. I am technically in grade 10, but I'm looking at 
a very early graduation. I was going to apply to the University of 
Toronto this year, but didn't because my parents wouldn't let me go. 
My dream school is MIT, double major in CS and Physics to pursue a 
doctorate in Quantum Computing. I started with Linux in grade 6, with 
Ubuntu (when they still used GNOME) but after they switched to Unity, 
I changed to Arch Linux. I stuck with Arch until about 10 months ago 
when I decided that I actually want to start contributing, I changed 
to Fedora. I spent the last 10 months getting used to it, 
understanding it, and toying with it, and now I think its time I start 
contributing.


As for my computer skills, I know C and Python to the level of an 
introductory undergraduate course. I am currently learning Java in my 
spare time. I am also working towards getting the Linux Foundation 
Certified System Administrator. As for project experience, I have 
none. I believe that I am an excellent match for the project because I 
am willing to learn and dedicate time to the project (I have no 
experience whatsoever).


Time Zone: EST
Interests: N/A

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atmnpatel.eia...@gmail.com mailto:atmnpatel.eia...@gmail.com

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I strongly suggest that you allow yourself to mature before going to 
university, too many very bright children either burn out or have 
difficulty adjusting socially, then bomb out!  My youngest son really 
wanted to get to university a year early when he was in year 10, but he 
is glad he did not now - so we did look at a lot of the issues.


Very important to develop social  personal interactions skills.  Not 
just in relating to people socially, but being able to work effectively 
in teams with various types of people, not just technical people.  
Ensure that you can have a LIFE outside of physics  computers!  You're 
probably too young to even think about getting married in the future, 
but you still need to learn how to cook  do housework, and look after 
yourself - important for flatting, let alone for being married...


Broaden your experience and learning rather than rush into university.  
Better to skip year 1 at university than a year of school.  I taught 
myself Special Relativity when I was at high school, but didn't really 
know how to cook when I left home, and I am now in my second marriage.


However, I would like to encourage you to get more into Linux, and also 
into advanced physics (no need to wait until university, have you seen 
http://www.infocobuild.com/education/audio-video-courses/physics/quantum-entanglements-p1.html 
?). Physics is fascinating, I read up on M-Theory, but most of the Math 
is way, way beyond me - besides software development is meant to be were 
I earn money!


If you really want to be a top flight physicist, you need to have a good 
grasp of calculus, tensor algebra, and other aspects of Mathematics.  
You may want to look at http://sagemath.org as this is free software 
that runs on Linux that has similar features to Matlab  Mathematica.


I started with FORTRAN  COBOL, and I've taught C to experienced 
programmers, and my main language now is Java.  I consider myself lucky 
that we have Linux, all my computers run Fedora.  I think C  Java are 
good languages to know, but you may want to look into C++ and even 
FORTRAN (currently FORTRAN is the main language used in scientific super 
computing).



Cheers,
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Re: Self Introduction: Atmn Patel

2014-12-28 Thread Atmn Patel
Hello,

First off, I would like to thank Gavin for his advice for university, it is
similar to the ones my parents and my teachers gave me. As for the
suggestions to where I can proceed, (ie learning C++, FORTRAN, Matlab,
etc.). I look forward to learning and growing with the members of the
Fedora Community in all areas. Don't hesitate to contact me if you have any
information that may be relevant to me.

Thanks,
Atmn Patel

On 28 December 2014 at 18:13, Gavin Flower gavinflo...@archidevsys.co.nz
wrote:

 On 29/12/14 10:51, Atmn Patel wrote:

 Hello all,

 My name is Atmn Patel. I am a high school student in a small town near
 Windsor, ON, Canada. I am technically in grade 10, but I'm looking at a
 very early graduation. I was going to apply to the University of Toronto
 this year, but didn't because my parents wouldn't let me go. My dream
 school is MIT, double major in CS and Physics to pursue a doctorate in
 Quantum Computing. I started with Linux in grade 6, with Ubuntu (when they
 still used GNOME) but after they switched to Unity, I changed to Arch
 Linux. I stuck with Arch until about 10 months ago when I decided that I
 actually want to start contributing, I changed to Fedora. I spent the last
 10 months getting used to it, understanding it, and toying with it, and now
 I think its time I start contributing.

 As for my computer skills, I know C and Python to the level of an
 introductory undergraduate course. I am currently learning Java in my spare
 time. I am also working towards getting the Linux Foundation Certified
 System Administrator. As for project experience, I have none. I believe
 that I am an excellent match for the project because I am willing to learn
 and dedicate time to the project (I have no experience whatsoever).

 Time Zone: EST
 Interests: N/A

 GPG KEYID and fingerprint:
 pub   2048R/65B2C7F9 2014-12-28 [expires: 2015-12-28]
   Key fingerprint = 11E7 A451 66B8 E676 1B70  937E 31A0 9D5F 65B2 C7F9
 uid  Atmn Patel (Fedora Project) 
 atmnpatel.eia...@gmail.com mailto:atmnpatel.eia...@gmail.com
 sub   2048R/ACCE24D7 2014-12-28 [expires: 2015-12-28]


  I strongly suggest that you allow yourself to mature before going to
 university, too many very bright children either burn out or have
 difficulty adjusting socially, then bomb out!  My youngest son really
 wanted to get to university a year early when he was in year 10, but he is
 glad he did not now - so we did look at a lot of the issues.

 Very important to develop social  personal interactions skills.  Not just
 in relating to people socially, but being able to work effectively in teams
 with various types of people, not just technical people.  Ensure that you
 can have a LIFE outside of physics  computers!  You're probably too young
 to even think about getting married in the future, but you still need to
 learn how to cook  do housework, and look after yourself - important for
 flatting, let alone for being married...

 Broaden your experience and learning rather than rush into university.
 Better to skip year 1 at university than a year of school.  I taught myself
 Special Relativity when I was at high school, but didn't really know how to
 cook when I left home, and I am now in my second marriage.

 However, I would like to encourage you to get more into Linux, and also
 into advanced physics (no need to wait until university, have you seen
 http://www.infocobuild.com/education/audio-video-courses/
 physics/quantum-entanglements-p1.html ?). Physics is fascinating, I read
 up on M-Theory, but most of the Math is way, way beyond me - besides
 software development is meant to be were I earn money!

 If you really want to be a top flight physicist, you need to have a good
 grasp of calculus, tensor algebra, and other aspects of Mathematics.  You
 may want to look at http://sagemath.org as this is free software that
 runs on Linux that has similar features to Matlab  Mathematica.

 I started with FORTRAN  COBOL, and I've taught C to experienced
 programmers, and my main language now is Java.  I consider myself lucky
 that we have Linux, all my computers run Fedora.  I think C  Java are good
 languages to know, but you may want to look into C++ and even FORTRAN
 (currently FORTRAN is the main language used in scientific super computing).


 Cheers,
 Gavin
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Re: Self Introduction: Atmn Patel

2014-12-28 Thread Lili Nie


- Original Message -
 From: Atmn Patel atmnpatel.eia...@gmail.com
 To: test@lists.fedoraproject.org
 Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 5:51:15 AM
 Subject: Self Introduction: Atmn Patel
 
 Hello all,
 
 My name is Atmn Patel. I am a high school student in a small town near
 Windsor, ON, Canada. I am technically in grade 10, but I'm looking at a very
 early graduation. I was going to apply to the University of Toronto this
 year, but didn't because my parents wouldn't let me go. My dream school is
 MIT, double major in CS and Physics to pursue a doctorate in Quantum
 Computing. I started with Linux in grade 6, with Ubuntu (when they still
 used GNOME) but after they switched to Unity, I changed to Arch Linux. I
 stuck with Arch until about 10 months ago when I decided that I actually
 want to start contributing, I changed to Fedora. I spent the last 10 months
 getting used to it, understanding it, and toying with it, and now I think
 its time I start contributing.
 
 As for my computer skills, I know C and Python to the level of an
 introductory undergraduate course. I am currently learning Java in my spare
 time. I am also working towards getting the Linux Foundation Certified
 System Administrator. As for project experience, I have none. I believe that
 I am an excellent match for the project because I am willing to learn and
 dedicate time to the project (I have no experience whatsoever).
 
 Time Zone: EST
 Interests: N/A
 
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Re: Self Introduction: Atmn Patel

2014-12-28 Thread Atmn Patel
I'm sure I will learn a lot during my contribution here.
I feel very much welcome in this community.

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On 28 December 2014 at 22:41, Lili Nie l...@redhat.com wrote:



 - Original Message -
  From: Atmn Patel atmnpatel.eia...@gmail.com
  To: test@lists.fedoraproject.org
  Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 5:51:15 AM
  Subject: Self Introduction: Atmn Patel
 
  Hello all,
 
  My name is Atmn Patel. I am a high school student in a small town near
  Windsor, ON, Canada. I am technically in grade 10, but I'm looking at a
 very
  early graduation. I was going to apply to the University of Toronto this
  year, but didn't because my parents wouldn't let me go. My dream school
 is
  MIT, double major in CS and Physics to pursue a doctorate in Quantum
  Computing. I started with Linux in grade 6, with Ubuntu (when they still
  used GNOME) but after they switched to Unity, I changed to Arch Linux. I
  stuck with Arch until about 10 months ago when I decided that I actually
  want to start contributing, I changed to Fedora. I spent the last 10
 months
  getting used to it, understanding it, and toying with it, and now I think
  its time I start contributing.
 
  As for my computer skills, I know C and Python to the level of an
  introductory undergraduate course. I am currently learning Java in my
 spare
  time. I am also working towards getting the Linux Foundation Certified
  System Administrator. As for project experience, I have none. I believe
 that
  I am an excellent match for the project because I am willing to learn and
  dedicate time to the project (I have no experience whatsoever).
 
  Time Zone: EST
  Interests: N/A
 
  GPG KEYID and fingerprint:
  pub 2048R/65B2C7F9 2014-12-28 [expires: 2015-12-28]
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Re: Self Introduction: Atmn Patel

2014-12-28 Thread Gavin Flower

On 29/12/14 17:04, Atmn Patel wrote:

I'm sure I will learn a lot during my contribution here.
I feel very much welcome in this community.

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On 28 December 2014 at 22:41, Lili Nie l...@redhat.com 
mailto:l...@redhat.com wrote:




- Original Message -
 From: Atmn Patel atmnpatel.eia...@gmail.com
mailto:atmnpatel.eia...@gmail.com
 To: test@lists.fedoraproject.org
mailto:test@lists.fedoraproject.org
 Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 5:51:15 AM
 Subject: Self Introduction: Atmn Patel

 Hello all,

 My name is Atmn Patel. I am a high school student in a small
town near
 Windsor, ON, Canada. I am technically in grade 10, but I'm
looking at a very
 early graduation. I was going to apply to the University of
Toronto this
 year, but didn't because my parents wouldn't let me go. My dream
school is
 MIT, double major in CS and Physics to pursue a doctorate in Quantum
 Computing. I started with Linux in grade 6, with Ubuntu (when
they still
 used GNOME) but after they switched to Unity, I changed to Arch
Linux. I
 stuck with Arch until about 10 months ago when I decided that I
actually
 want to start contributing, I changed to Fedora. I spent the
last 10 months
 getting used to it, understanding it, and toying with it, and
now I think
 its time I start contributing.

 As for my computer skills, I know C and Python to the level of an
 introductory undergraduate course. I am currently learning Java
in my spare
 time. I am also working towards getting the Linux Foundation
Certified
 System Administrator. As for project experience, I have none. I
believe that
 I am an excellent match for the project because I am willing to
learn and
 dedicate time to the project (I have no experience whatsoever).

 Time Zone: EST
 Interests: N/A

 GPG KEYID and fingerprint:
 pub 2048R/65B2C7F9 2014-12-28 [expires: 2015-12-28]
 Key fingerprint = 11E7 A451 66B8 E676 1B70 937E 31A0 9D5F 65B2 C7F9
 uid Atmn Patel (Fedora Project)  atmnpatel.eia...@gmail.com
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