Re: SOLVED: Re: firefox always starts offline
On Thu, Sep 02, 2010 at 09:12:32AM +0300, cornel panceac wrote: it remains a mistery why this is the first pc where i see this behaviour even if i installed fedora 14 on other computers and everywhere i had to enable network and disable NetworkManager to connect to the network and firefox worked ok. Why did you have to enable network and disable NetworkManager to connect to the network? -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: SOLVED: Re: firefox always starts offline
On 09/03/2010 03:42 PM, Chuck Anderson wrote: On Thu, Sep 02, 2010 at 09:12:32AM +0300, cornel panceac wrote: it remains a mistery why this is the first pc where i see this behaviour even if i installed fedora 14 on other computers and everywhere i had to enable network and disable NetworkManager to connect to the network and firefox worked ok. Why did you have to enable network and disable NetworkManager to connect to the network? Has NM added support for bridges? That's the reason I have disabled it since I rely heavily on virtual machines both on my desktop and my servers. Regards, Dennis -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: SOLVED: Re: firefox always starts offline
On 09/03/2010 09:47 AM, Dennis J. wrote: On 09/03/2010 03:42 PM, Chuck Anderson wrote: On Thu, Sep 02, 2010 at 09:12:32AM +0300, cornel panceac wrote: it remains a mistery why this is the first pc where i see this behaviour even if i installed fedora 14 on other computers and everywhere i had to enable network and disable NetworkManager to connect to the network and firefox worked ok. Why did you have to enable network and disable NetworkManager to connect to the network? Has NM added support for bridges? That's the reason I have disabled it since I rely heavily on virtual machines both on my desktop and my servers. Slowly but surely, NM is finally starting to play nicely with bridges. For example: https://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2010-August/msg00656.html -- Eric Blake ebl...@redhat.com+1-801-349-2682 Libvirt virtualization library http://libvirt.org -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: SOLVED: Re: firefox always starts offline
On 09/03/2010 09:50 AM, Eric Blake wrote: On 09/03/2010 09:47 AM, Dennis J. wrote: On 09/03/2010 03:42 PM, Chuck Anderson wrote: On Thu, Sep 02, 2010 at 09:12:32AM +0300, cornel panceac wrote: it remains a mistery why this is the first pc where i see this behaviour even if i installed fedora 14 on other computers and everywhere i had to enable network and disable NetworkManager to connect to the network and firefox worked ok. Why did you have to enable network and disable NetworkManager to connect to the network? Has NM added support for bridges? That's the reason I have disabled it since I rely heavily on virtual machines both on my desktop and my servers. Slowly but surely, NM is finally starting to play nicely with bridges. For example: https://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2010-August/msg00656.html But for complete support, NM still needs more work: https://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2010-August/msg00660.html -- Eric Blake ebl...@redhat.com+1-801-349-2682 Libvirt virtualization library http://libvirt.org -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: SOLVED: Re: firefox always starts offline
2010/9/3 Chuck Anderson c...@wpi.edu On Thu, Sep 02, 2010 at 09:12:32AM +0300, cornel panceac wrote: it remains a mistery why this is the first pc where i see this behaviour even if i installed fedora 14 on other computers and everywhere i had to enable network and disable NetworkManager to connect to the network and firefox worked ok. Why did you have to enable network and disable NetworkManager to connect to the network? -- because networkmanager service failed to connect to the network at that moment. today, after many updates, on one pc, networkmanager works fine, on another, the service fails to start (i see some dbus error in 'messages'). i'll try updating that system again asap. only this will not happen sooner than two weeks since i'm in holiday this time, and those systems are at office. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
SOLVED: Re: firefox always starts offline
2010/9/2 cornel panceac cpanc...@gmail.com 2010/9/2 cornel panceac cpanc...@gmail.com something strange happens on one of my test pcs running f14 (updated). firefox always starts in offline mode. i uncheck work offline and eevrythings fine until i close and start again firefox, when it's in offline mode again. what could be the problem? NetworkManager is stopped because it's not working. more: if i remove .mozilla , it starts online, first time. second time etc it goes offline again. if i go into about:config, there's no browser.offline key. after i uncheck first time the work offline in file menu, then a browser.offline key is created which is *false* when work offline is *unchecked*, and browser is online. something looks messed in firefox, but i have no idea what :) please help! as i've learned here: http://support.mozilla.com/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=1comments_threshold=0comments_parentId=11503comments_offset=20comments_per_page=20thread_style=commentStyle_plain from *about:config* set *toolkit.networkmanager.disable* to be true. now it starts online. it remains a mistery why this is the first pc where i see this behaviour even if i installed fedora 14 on other computers and everywhere i had to enable network and disable NetworkManager to connect to the network and firefox worked ok. -- Among the maxims on Lord Naoshige's wall, there was this one: Matters of great concern should be treated lightly. Master Ittei commented, Matters of small concern should be treated seriously. (Ghost Dog : The Way of The Samurai) -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: firefox always starts offline
On Thu, 2010-09-02 at 08:50 +0300, cornel panceac wrote: something strange happens on one of my test pcs running f14 (updated). firefox always starts in offline mode. i uncheck work offline and eevrythings fine until i close and start again firefox, when it's in offline mode again. what could be the problem? NetworkManager is stopped because it's not working. If NetworkManager stops your network stops, period. Firefox, Evolution and Empathy for sure depend on it and eventually everything will. You can frob an undocumented option on Firefox's about:config screen but no known fix exists for the others. Solution: Troubleshoot your NetworkManager problem. It isn't optional anymore. Whether that is wise is a question best left to the philosophers. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
Re: firefox always starts offline
If NetworkManager stops your network stops, period. Firefox, Evolution and Empathy for sure depend on it and eventually everything will. You can frob an undocumented option on Firefox's about:config screen but no known fix exists for the others. Solution: Troubleshoot your NetworkManager problem. It isn't optional anymore. Whether that is wise is a question best left to the philosophers. of course, to troubleshoot nm, it's best to update the system first ... -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
firefox always starts offline
something strange happens on one of my test pcs running f14 (updated). firefox always starts in offline mode. i uncheck work offline and eevrythings fine until i close and start again firefox, when it's in offline mode again. what could be the problem? NetworkManager is stopped because it's not working. -- Among the maxims on Lord Naoshige's wall, there was this one: Matters of great concern should be treated lightly. Master Ittei commented, Matters of small concern should be treated seriously. (Ghost Dog : The Way of The Samurai) -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test