Re: newbie question - Fedora 34
On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 11:04:36AM -0500, David wrote: > or are the current Beta versions just "test-Betas" ?? or "rc-Betas" for > in-house use only ? It is released. You should see an official email on the announcements list: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org/ and a post on Fedora Magazine: https://fedoramagazine.org/announcing-the-release-of-fedora-34-beta/ > Seems confusing. Why not do an public Alpha release, or at least a quite > Alpha release ? I'm not sure how this would reduce confusion. In the past, we did Alpha releases, but we generally found that the usage of them was quite low compared to the amount of effort it takes to produce and test them as release artifacts. Instead, we decided to put efforts towards making Rawhide continuously be at the quality level we previously expected for Alpha releases. > Linux users who have never used Fedora or have little experience with > Fedora need a better explanation as to what is so exciting about the 34 > release. Phoronix is only covering the highlights, but a few YouTubers are > explaining it, but they only do it in a virtual-machine for a very brief > install review. This really gets out of the scope of testing and into Mindshare, so I've CC'd that list. In addition to the Beta announcement, we also run Magazine articles like https://fedoramagazine.org/fedora-34-feature-focus-updated-activities-overview/, More would always be welcome, of course. > In my opinion, a good review would be to install on hardware and show > actual real-world work being done with Fedora 34, such as a drawing in > FreeCAD, and how the system differs from Manjaro Gnome 40, Gnome OS, Ubuntu > 20.10, etc. Yes, that would be great. I don't think we're going to do a comparative review as an official Fedora Project release — better to stand on our own merits and let others do the comparing — but I do always love to see videos and articles like this (at least, when some thought has been put into it rather than just being a listicle). -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ test mailing list -- test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to test-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/test@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: newbie question - Fedora 34
>In my opinion, a good review would be to install on hardware and show >actual real-world work being done with Fedora 34, such as a drawing in >FreeCAD, and how the system differs from Manjaro Gnome 40, Gnome OS, >Ubuntu 20.10, etc. Perhaps for the actual release, but this sounds premature for a Beta version, where significant changes are still possible. Of course, one might practice with a Beta in order to make creation of such material easier once the real product is available. ___ test mailing list -- test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to test-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/test@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: newbie question - Fedora 34
Yes, I just saw the announcement via Phoronix. Ironically, I do not recall seeing it on the listserve, unless I overlooked it. David Locklear On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 11:13 AM Luna Jernberg wrote: > https://distrowatch.com/?newsid=11192 > https://fedoramagazine.org/announcing-the-release-of-fedora-34-beta/ > > The actual real Beta came out earlier today > > On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 5:04 PM David wrote: > >> Is the Fedora 34 Beta officially out in the wild ? >> >> or are the current Beta versions just "test-Betas" ?? or "rc-Betas" for >> in-house use only ? >> >> Seems confusing. Why not do an public Alpha release, or at least a >> quite Alpha release ? >> >> >> Linux users who have never used Fedora or have little experience with >> Fedora need a better explanation as to what is so exciting about the 34 >> release. Phoronix is only covering the highlights, but a few YouTubers are >> explaining it, but they only do it in a virtual-machine for a very brief >> install review. >> >> >> In my opinion, a good review would be to install on hardware and show >> actual real-world work being done with Fedora 34, such as a drawing in >> FreeCAD, and how the system differs from Manjaro Gnome 40, Gnome OS, Ubuntu >> 20.10, etc. >> >> Cheers, >> >> David Locklear >> >> >> ___ >> test mailing list -- test@lists.fedoraproject.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to test-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org >> Fedora Code of Conduct: >> https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ >> List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines >> List Archives: >> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/test@lists.fedoraproject.org >> Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: >> https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure >> > ___ test mailing list -- test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to test-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/test@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: newbie question - Fedora 34
https://distrowatch.com/?newsid=11192 https://fedoramagazine.org/announcing-the-release-of-fedora-34-beta/ The actual real Beta came out earlier today On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 5:04 PM David wrote: > Is the Fedora 34 Beta officially out in the wild ? > > or are the current Beta versions just "test-Betas" ?? or "rc-Betas" for > in-house use only ? > > Seems confusing. Why not do an public Alpha release, or at least a quite > Alpha release ? > > > Linux users who have never used Fedora or have little experience with > Fedora need a better explanation as to what is so exciting about the 34 > release. Phoronix is only covering the highlights, but a few YouTubers are > explaining it, but they only do it in a virtual-machine for a very brief > install review. > > > In my opinion, a good review would be to install on hardware and show > actual real-world work being done with Fedora 34, such as a drawing in > FreeCAD, and how the system differs from Manjaro Gnome 40, Gnome OS, Ubuntu > 20.10, etc. > > Cheers, > > David Locklear > > > ___ > test mailing list -- test@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to test-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/test@lists.fedoraproject.org > Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: > https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure > ___ test mailing list -- test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to test-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/test@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
newbie question - Fedora 34
Is the Fedora 34 Beta officially out in the wild ? or are the current Beta versions just "test-Betas" ?? or "rc-Betas" for in-house use only ? Seems confusing. Why not do an public Alpha release, or at least a quite Alpha release ? Linux users who have never used Fedora or have little experience with Fedora need a better explanation as to what is so exciting about the 34 release. Phoronix is only covering the highlights, but a few YouTubers are explaining it, but they only do it in a virtual-machine for a very brief install review. In my opinion, a good review would be to install on hardware and show actual real-world work being done with Fedora 34, such as a drawing in FreeCAD, and how the system differs from Manjaro Gnome 40, Gnome OS, Ubuntu 20.10, etc. Cheers, David Locklear ___ test mailing list -- test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to test-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/test@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
