Re: Slow Firefox in F17

2012-04-13 Thread Kamil Paral
> Running xfce with current updates as of today. Firefox is nearly
> unusable its so slow, seen some old bz's on this and just wondered
> if anyone else is seeing this? I am using proprietary nvidia
> drivers...
> 
> Thanks,
> jlc

I have just the worst experience with proprietary nvidia drivers and desktop 
rendering, especially in Firefox. Try to switch to nouveau driver whether it 
improves, I'm almost certain you'll be amazed. If that's the case, try to bash 
nvidia in their support forum, but don't expect much.
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Re: serious Python-2.7.2-12.x86_64 crash...

2012-04-13 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2012-04-10 at 23:58 -0700, Rob Healey wrote:
> Greetings:
> 
> Major crash!  Please fix before releasing Fedora 17
> 
> Here is what I received on my terminal window regarding this crash...
> 
> [Frog@FartingSalmon gep-026]$ pysetup run sdist
> running sdist
> running check
> invalid Python installation: unable to open
> /usr/lib/python2.7/config/Makefile (No such file or directory)

That's not a crash. That's a third-party tool making an apparently
unreliable assumption about what files will be present where in a
typical Python installation.

python-libs contains $libdir/python2.7/config/Makefile . I suspect
either you don't have python-libs installed, or the script you're
running is erroneously assuming that all distros use /usr/lib even on
x86_64 installs. If yours is an x86_64 install, this is likely the
source of the problem; you should ask upstream of whatever 'gep' is to
fix their script to look in /usr/lib64 when appropriate.
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Re: serious Python-2.7.2-12.x86_64 crash...

2012-04-13 Thread Peter Robinson
On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 8:16 AM, Adam Williamson  wrote:
> On Tue, 2012-04-10 at 23:58 -0700, Rob Healey wrote:
>> Greetings:
>>
>> Major crash!  Please fix before releasing Fedora 17
>>
>> Here is what I received on my terminal window regarding this crash...
>>
>> [Frog@FartingSalmon gep-026]$ pysetup run sdist
>> running sdist
>> running check
>> invalid Python installation: unable to open
>> /usr/lib/python2.7/config/Makefile (No such file or directory)
>
> That's not a crash. That's a third-party tool making an apparently
> unreliable assumption about what files will be present where in a
> typical Python installation.
>
> python-libs contains $libdir/python2.7/config/Makefile . I suspect
> either you don't have python-libs installed, or the script you're
> running is erroneously assuming that all distros use /usr/lib even on
> x86_64 installs. If yours is an x86_64 install, this is likely the
> source of the problem; you should ask upstream of whatever 'gep' is to
> fix their script to look in /usr/lib64 when appropriate.

I've seen this on F17 as well. There was something that changed from
F-16 to F-17 regarding 32/64 bit stuff that corrected something that
was wrong, I'm not sure what the exact issue was because I'm not a
python programmer but it's a bug in the app.

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Re: [resolved]Re: F17 & btrfs installation

2012-04-13 Thread Kashyap Chamarthy
On 04/12/2012 06:59 PM, David Lehman wrote:
> On Thu, 2012-04-12 at 11:08 +0530, Kashyap Chamarthy wrote:
>> On 04/12/2012 06:41 AM, David Lehman wrote:
>>> On Wed, 2012-04-11 at 11:08 +0530, Kashyap Chamarthy wrote:
>
> I'm going give it a try w/ btrfs partitioning. Meanwhile, I wasn't 
> keeping up. Can someone
> confirm, does /boot still need to be ext3/ext4 for btrfs to work?
>


 Ok, I gave it a try w/ the below command line, and an error "you have not 
 created a
 bootloader stage1 target device. This can happen if there is not enough 
 space on your
 harddrive for your installation"

 Really? There is plenty of space on the disk.

 Screenshot of the text install error -->
 http://kashyapc.fedorapeople.org/f17-btrfs-install.png

 Any hints?
>>>
>>> Here's a hint: try this instead of the clearpart and part commands you
>>> used below:
>>>
>>>   clearpart --all --initlabel
>>>   autopart --type=btrfs
>>
>> Thanks David, that resolved it.  True, I was not paying attention to the 
>> partition layout.
>>
>> #
>> [root@foobar ~]# df -hT
>> Filesystem Type  Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
>> rootfs rootfs 16G  818M   13G   6% /
>> devtmpfs   devtmpfs  994M 0  994M   0% /dev
>> tmpfs  tmpfs1003M 0 1003M   0% /dev/shm
>> tmpfs  tmpfs1003M  724K 1002M   1% /run
>> /dev/sda4  btrfs  16G  818M   13G   6% /
>> tmpfs  tmpfs1003M 0 1003M   0% /sys/fs/cgroup
>> tmpfs  tmpfs1003M 0 1003M   0% /media
>> /dev/sda4  btrfs  16G  818M   13G   6% /home
>> /dev/sda2  ext4  497M   48M  425M  11% /boot
>> #
>> [root@foobar ~]# cat /etc/fedora-release ; arch
>> Fedora release 17 (Beefy Miracle)
>> x86_64
>> [root@foobar ~]#
>> #
>>
>> Answering my own earlier question, so yes, /boot still needs ext4.
> 
> I believe it is possible to use btrfs for /boot, but it must be the main
> volume (not a subvolume). 
> 
> The automatic btrfs layout is similar to how we do the lvm automatic
> partitioning. You'll get one btrfs partition on each disk with enough
> space (just sda4 in your case), and these are combined to form a single
> btrfs volume/filesystem. Subvolumes are created for / and /home. The
> main volume is not mounted directly. /boot (ext4) is a regular
> partition, as is swap.
> 
> If grub2 learns how to identify subvolumes we will probably move /boot
> into the btrfs volume as well.

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Re: Audio error while playing audio with mplayer in konsole in F17

2012-04-13 Thread Rex Dieter
stan wrote:

> I keep getting the error,
> Audio device got stuck!
> when playing audio in konsole using mplayer in F17.  The sound
> continues playing, but I think I hear a slight sound like brushing a
> microphone when this occurs.  It happens fairly frequently, sometimes
> several times within a few seconds, and sometimes it takes a minute.
> 
> I'm not sure whether it is mplayer, alsa, or pulseaudio causing the
> problem.  Anyone have insight on this?

See if it's reproducible in players other than mplayer.  If not, mplayer is 
to blame, else it's most likely something in the audio stack (one usual 
culprit is audio driver).

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Move from /media to /run/media/$USER

2012-04-13 Thread Ankur Sinha
Hello,

I just got into F17 today. It looks great. I do have one tiny query
though:

my USB media, and other partitions that I mount on-demand are no longer
showing up in /media. They show up in /run/media/$USER. Can anyone shed
some light on this? Where is this move documented for instance? I've
looked at the new FHS[1] which doesn't appear to hold anything on this. 


[1] http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html
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Re: Move from /media to /run/media/$USER

2012-04-13 Thread Ankur Sinha
On Fri, 2012-04-13 at 19:09 +0530, Ankur Sinha wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I just got into F17 today. It looks great. I do have one tiny query
> though:
> 
> my USB media, and other partitions that I mount on-demand are no longer
> showing up in /media. They show up in /run/media/$USER. Can anyone shed
> some light on this? Where is this move documented for instance? I've
> looked at the new FHS[1] which doesn't appear to hold anything on this. 
> 
> 
> [1] http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html

It looks like it's related to udisks2[1]. This needs to be documented
someplace IMO. Thoughts?

[1]
http://cgit.freedesktop.org/udisks/tree/data/org.freedesktop.UDisks2.xml?id=aa02e5fc53efdeaf66047d2ad437ed543178965b#n1094

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Re: Move from /media to /run/media/$USER

2012-04-13 Thread Bill Nottingham
Ankur Sinha (sanjay.an...@gmail.com) said: 
> On Fri, 2012-04-13 at 19:09 +0530, Ankur Sinha wrote:
> > Hello,
> > 
> > I just got into F17 today. It looks great. I do have one tiny query
> > though:
> > 
> > my USB media, and other partitions that I mount on-demand are no longer
> > showing up in /media. They show up in /run/media/$USER. Can anyone shed
> > some light on this? Where is this move documented for instance? I've
> > looked at the new FHS[1] which doesn't appear to hold anything on this. 
> > 
> > 
> > [1] http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html
> 
> It looks like it's related to udisks2[1]. This needs to be documented
> someplace IMO. Thoughts?

Release notes seem fine. Basically, removable media mounted in the
user's session are now  mounted in a user-specific directory.

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Re: rescue mode?

2012-04-13 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 18:56:37 -0700
Samuel Sieb  wrote:

> John Reiser wrote:
> >> Has rescue mode been removed?  If so, what can I use instead?
> >
> > Append " rescue" to the end of the kernel boot command line.
> >
> Yes, that's what I usually do and what I tried.  I don't remember if
> I've ever tried it with a live cd before though.  I usually use the
> netinst image and I'll try that now.

Live media does not have rescue mode. ;) 

You need a install dvd or netinstall iso. 

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Re: serious Python-2.7.2-12.x86_64 crash...

2012-04-13 Thread David Malcolm
On Tue, 2012-04-10 at 23:58 -0700, Rob Healey wrote:
[...snip...]
> [Frog@FartingSalmon gep-026]$ pysetup run sdist
> running sdist
> running check
> invalid Python installation: unable to open
> /usr/lib/python2.7/config/Makefile (No such file or directory)
> Traceback (most recent call last):
>   File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/distutils2/run.py", line 651, in main
> return dispatcher()
[...snip...]
>   File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/distutils2/_backport/sysconfig.py",
> line 333, in _init_posix
> raise IOError(msg)
> IOError: invalid Python installation: unable to open
> /usr/lib/python2.7/config/Makefile (No such file or directory)

Looks like distutils2 needs to be patched to take into account the
changes we make to Python downstream for multilib.

Please file a bug about this (e.g. against "python" for now)

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F-17 Branched report: 20120413 changes

2012-04-13 Thread Fedora Branched Report
Compose started at Fri Apr 13 08:15:05 UTC 2012

Broken deps for x86_64
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[aeolus-conductor]
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[aeolus-configserver]
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[ale]
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[alexandria]
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[cuneiform]
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[dh-make]
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[dmapd]
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dmapd-0.0.47-2.fc17.x86_64 requires libMagickCore.so.4()(64bit)
[dogtag-pki]
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dogtag-pki-9.0.0-10.fc17.noarch requires pki-tks >= 0:9.0.9
dogtag-pki-9.0.0-10.fc17.noarch requires pki-symkey >= 0:9.0.18
dogtag-pki-9.0.0-10.fc17.noarch requires pki-silent >= 0:9.0.18
dogtag-pki-9.0.0-10.fc17.noarch requires pki-setup >= 0:9.0.18
dogtag-pki-9.0.0-10.fc17.noarch requires pki-selinux >= 0:9.0.18
dogtag-pki-9.0.0-10.fc17.noarch requires pki-ocsp >= 0:9.0.9
dogtag-pki-9.0.0-10.fc17.noarch requires pki-native-tools >= 0:9.0.18
dogtag-pki-9.0.0-10.fc17.noarch requires pki-kra >= 0:9.0.10
dogtag-pki-9.0.0-10.fc17.noarch requires pki-java-tools-javadoc >= 
0:9.0.18
dogtag-pki-9.0.0-10.fc17.noarch requires pki-java-tools >= 0:9.0.18
dogtag-pki-9.0.0-10.fc17.noarch requires pki-common-javadoc >= 0:9.0.18
dogtag-pki-9.0.0-10.fc17.noarch requires pki-common >= 0:9.0.18
dogtag-pki-9.0.0-10.fc17.noarch requires pki-ca >= 0:9.0.18
dogtag-pki-9.0.0-10.fc17.noarch requires dogtag-pki-tps-theme >= 
0:9.0.11
dogtag-pki-9.0.0-10.fc17.noarch requires dogtag-pki-tks-theme >= 
0:9.0.11
dogtag-pki-9.0.0-10.fc17.noarch requires dogtag-pki-ra-theme >= 0:9.0.11
dogtag-pki-9.0.0-10.fc17.noarch requires dogtag-pki-ocsp-theme >= 
0:9.0.11
dogtag-pki-9.0.0-10.fc17.noarch requires dogtag-pki-kra-theme >= 
0:9.0.11
dogtag-pki-9.0.0-10.fc17.noarch requires dogtag-pki-console-theme >= 
0:9.0.11
dogtag-pki-9.0.0-10.fc17.noarch requires dogtag-pki-common-theme >= 
0:9.0.11
dogtag-pki-9.0.0-10.fc17.noarch requires dogtag-pki-ca-theme >= 0:9.0.11
[drawtiming]
drawtiming-0.7.1-5.fc17.x86_64 requires libMagickCore.so.4()(64bit)
drawtiming-0.7.1-5.fc17.x86_64 requires libMagick++.so.4()(64bit)
[dustmite]
dustmite-1-4.20120304gitcde46e0.fc17.x86_64 requires 
libphobos2-ldc.so()(64bit)
[dx]
dx-4.4.4-21.fc17.x86_64 requires libMagickCore.so.4()(64bit)
dx-libs-4.4.4-21.fc17.i686 requires libMagickCore.so.4
dx-libs-4.4.4-21.fc17.x86_64 requires libMagickCore.so.4()(64bit)
[entangle]
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[gcc-python-plugin]
gcc-python2-debug-plugin-0.9-1.fc17.x86_64 requires gcc = 
0:4.7.0-0.10.fc17
gcc-python2-plugin-0.9-1.fc17.x86_64 requires gcc = 0:4.7.0-0.10.fc17
gcc-python3-debug-plugin-0.9-1.fc17.x86_64 requires gcc = 
0:4.7.0-0.10.fc17
gcc-python3-plugin-0.9-1.fc17.x86_64 requires gcc = 0:4.7.0-0.10.fc17
[gorm]
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gorm-1.2.13-0.2.20110331.fc17.i686 requires libgnustep-base.so.1.23
gorm-1.2.13-0.2.20110331.fc17.x86_64 requires libobjc.so.3()(64bit)
gorm-1.2.13-0.2.20110331.fc17.x86_64 requires 
libgnustep-gui.so.0.20()(64bit)
gorm-1.2.13-0.2.20110331.fc17.x86_64 requires 
libgnustep-base.so.1.23()(64bit)
[i3]
i3-4.0.1-2.fc17.x86_64 requires libxcb-property.so.1()(64bit)
i3-4.0.1-2.fc17.x86_64 requires libxcb-icccm.so.1()(64bit)
i3-4.0.1-2.fc17.x86_64 requires libxcb-event.so.1()(64bit)
i3-4.0.1-2.fc17.x86_64 requires libxcb-aux.so.0()(64bit)
i3-4.0.1-2.fc17.x86_64 requires libxcb-atom.so.1()(64bit)
[ibus-gucharmap]
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[ibus-panel-extensions]
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libibus-1.0.so.0
ibus-panel-extensions-1.4.99.20111207-2.fc17.x86_64 requires 
libibus-1.0.so.0()(64bit)
[ibus-unikey]
ibus-unikey-0.6.1-1.fc17.x86_64 requires libibus-1.0.so.0()(64bit)
[imageinfo]
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[inkscape]
inkscape-0.48.2-4.fc17.x86_64 requires libMagickC

Re: How to install some software that requires Python 2.6 and rejects 2.7?

2012-04-13 Thread Richard Shaw
On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 4:43 PM, Fernando Cassia  wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 18:31, Richard Shaw  wrote:
>>
>> Sorry yes! That's my updated version.
>
> I think it'd be nice if you could do a small txt explaining what you
> had to change, and then forward it to Matej, the person doing the
> builds at the fedorapeople url mentioned on the OP.
>
> I did a Google search:
> Matej Cepl 

Well I wouldn't consider my modifications "upstreamable". It was
really just a quick hack. The right way would be to fix/work around
the autoconf errors but I just don't know autoconf well enough.

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Re: How to install some software that requires Python 2.6 and rejects 2.7?

2012-04-13 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 12:08, Richard Shaw  wrote:
> Well I wouldn't consider my modifications "upstreamable". It was
> really just a quick hack. The right way would be to fix/work around
> the autoconf errors but I just don't know autoconf well enough.

Okay, I will install your RPM. I just want to be kept on the record
that any trojans on my system came from your RPM...

;-)

*joke* *joke*

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Re: How to install some software that requires Python 2.6 and rejects 2.7?

2012-04-13 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 18:31, Richard Shaw  wrote:
> Is this a different version from the one at people.fedora.org??.
>> Sorry I got confused by the dropbox url. Or did you edit/fix it and
>> uploaded it there?
>
> Sorry yes! That's my updated version.

# rpm -i gdm3setup-20120226-1.noarch.rpm
error: gdm3setup-20120226-1.noarch.rpm: not an rpm package (or package
manifest):

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Re: How to install some software that requires Python 2.6 and rejects 2.7?

2012-04-13 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 12:46, Fernando Cassia  wrote:
> # rpm -i gdm3setup-20120226-1.noarch.rpm
> error: gdm3setup-20120226-1.noarch.rpm: not an rpm package (or package
> manifest):

sorry
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brain_fart
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Re: How to install some software that requires Python 2.6 and rejects 2.7?

2012-04-13 Thread Horst H. von Brand
Richard Shaw  wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 3:37 PM, Fernando Cassia  wrote:
> > of which http://mcepl.fedorapeople.org/rpms/ maintains Fedora RPMs for here
> > http://mcepl.fedorapeople.org/rpms/scribes-0.4-0.bzr2017r1032.1.el6.noarch.rpm
> 
> You're trying to install the el6 package which must ship with Python
> 2.6. Easiest solution is to download the source RPM instead and
> rebuild it on your system:

I find it strange that there is a EPEL package that isn't also available for
Fedora proper. Isn't that a requirement for EPEL?
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Re: rescue mode?

2012-04-13 Thread David
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On 4/13/2012 10:02 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 18:56:37 -0700 Samuel Sieb  
> wrote:
> 
>> John Reiser wrote:
 Has rescue mode been removed?  If so, what can I use 
 instead?
>>> 
>>> Append " rescue" to the end of the kernel boot command line.
>>> 
>> Yes, that's what I usually do and what I tried.  I don't
>> remember if I've ever tried it with a live cd before though.  I
>> usually use the netinst image and I'll try that now.
> 
> Live media does not have rescue mode. ;)
> 
> You need a install dvd or netinstall iso.


The Fedora-17 Xfce x86_64 does.

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Re: Audio error while playing audio with mplayer in konsole in F17

2012-04-13 Thread stan
On Fri, 13 Apr 2012 07:55:18 -0500
Rex Dieter  wrote:

> stan wrote:
> 
> > I keep getting the error,
> > Audio device got stuck!
> > when playing audio in konsole using mplayer in F17.  The sound
> > continues playing, but I think I hear a slight sound like brushing a
> > microphone when this occurs.  It happens fairly frequently,
> > sometimes several times within a few seconds, and sometimes it
> > takes a minute.
> > 
> > I'm not sure whether it is mplayer, alsa, or pulseaudio causing the
> > problem.  Anyone have insight on this?
> 
> See if it's reproducible in players other than mplayer.  If not,
> mplayer is to blame, else it's most likely something in the audio
> stack (one usual culprit is audio driver).

It's mplayer.  I ran a search in the source and found the string.
Seems to be timing out while trying to write audio, and the comment
seems to imply that this is a synchronization issue.  Since it only
started recently, I think it isn't.  

There is no problem with the version in Fedora, it works properly.  I'm
using the subversion repository to build, so this is a regression there.
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Re: Move from /media to /run/media/$USER

2012-04-13 Thread John Reiser
On 04/13/2012 06:48 AM, Bill Nottingham wrote:
> Release notes seem fine. Basically, removable media mounted in the
> user's session are now  mounted in a user-specific directory.

There's still a problem: cold-plugged media, or even warm-plugged media.
Cold-plugged (before boot) should be mounted under /media as soon as udisks2 
runs.
Warm-plugged (after boot but before login) probably should be, too,
although there's room for discussion regarding /media/ versus
/run/media/$next_console_login/, particularly for multi-seat operation
(Plugable.com, etc.), but particularly including login on either text or 
graphical
local console.

However, they aren't recognized [mounted] at all (not even upon subsequent 
graphical
login), and this is bad.  See https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=722712
where there is some argument whether udisks2 or gvfs should bear the blame.

It can be handy to have a "permanently" mounted CD/DVD or USB2.0 flash device.

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Re: rescue mode?

2012-04-13 Thread Samuel Sieb

Kevin Fenzi wrote:


Live media does not have rescue mode. ;)

You need a install dvd or netinstall iso.


Sorry for the noise.  I forgot that the live cd doesn't use anaconda.

The netinst image worked, although anaconda warned that "rescue" was deprecated 
and should be "inst.rescue" in the future.  That needs to be changed in the menu.

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Re: F17 vs. Pentium 4

2012-04-13 Thread mwesten

On 04/12/2012 10:51 PM, Michael Hennebry wrote:

On Thu, 12 Apr 2012, mwesten wrote:


On 04/12/2012 07:12 PM, Michael Hennebry wrote:

No selinux message, but

Still no go.
I took some pictures of the "Details" message,
but the three are >60KB a piece after processing, >2MB before.
Should I send them to the list?


I put them on http://web.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu/~hennebry/new16-[123].png


After clicking on exit, I saw four copies of the following
message at the bottom before I had to push reset.
Error: cannot open Packages database in /mnt/sysimage/var/lib/rpm .




I see, the installer is finding what it needs alright, but just can't
complete. Isn't that what the netinstall did to you too?

I'm not getting anything at that URL, and I probably won't have a way
around whatever it is, either.


Oops.
http://web.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu/~hennebry/new16-1.png
http://web.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu/~hennebry/new16-2.png
http://web.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu/~hennebry/new16-3.png


Of course, you could give F17 Beta a shot. At this point, however, I
would really only recommend using optical media or a LiveUSB for that.


I'll download it.
I've got one more rather hairy thing to try before trying to use it.



Alright, I looked at the pics you posted and it appears that you have 
reproduced this anaconda crash during the bootloader installation:


https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=796472

I was looking at the included exception report and it seems this person 
was installing F16 on the second of two drives with the bootloader going 
on the first.


Is that what you were doing as well?

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Re: Move from /media to /run/media/$USER

2012-04-13 Thread Steven Stern
On 04/13/2012 12:25 PM, John Reiser wrote:
> On 04/13/2012 06:48 AM, Bill Nottingham wrote:
>> Release notes seem fine. Basically, removable media mounted in the
>> user's session are now  mounted in a user-specific directory.
> 
> There's still a problem: cold-plugged media, or even warm-plugged media.
> Cold-plugged (before boot) should be mounted under /media as soon as udisks2 
> runs.
> Warm-plugged (after boot but before login) probably should be, too,
> although there's room for discussion regarding /media/ versus
> /run/media/$next_console_login/, particularly for multi-seat operation
> (Plugable.com, etc.), but particularly including login on either text or 
> graphical
> local console.
> 
> However, they aren't recognized [mounted] at all (not even upon subsequent 
> graphical
> login), and this is bad.  See 
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=722712
> where there is some argument whether udisks2 or gvfs should bear the blame.
> 
> It can be handy to have a "permanently" mounted CD/DVD or USB2.0 flash device.
> 
This behavior messes up a bunch of scripts I've written that assume the
external USB drive "MyBackupDrive" will be hooked up as
"/media/MyBackupDrive" no matter who's logged in when it's plugged in.
Phooey.

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Re: Move from /media to /run/media/$USER

2012-04-13 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Steven Stern  said:
> On 04/13/2012 12:25 PM, John Reiser wrote:
> > On 04/13/2012 06:48 AM, Bill Nottingham wrote:
> >> Release notes seem fine. Basically, removable media mounted in the
> >> user's session are now  mounted in a user-specific directory.
> > 
> > There's still a problem: cold-plugged media, or even warm-plugged media.
> > Cold-plugged (before boot) should be mounted under /media as soon as 
> > udisks2 runs.
> > Warm-plugged (after boot but before login) probably should be, too,
> > although there's room for discussion regarding /media/ versus
> > /run/media/$next_console_login/, particularly for multi-seat 
> > operation
> > (Plugable.com, etc.), but particularly including login on either text or 
> > graphical
> > local console.
> > 
> > However, they aren't recognized [mounted] at all (not even upon subsequent 
> > graphical
> > login), and this is bad.  See 
> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=722712
> > where there is some argument whether udisks2 or gvfs should bear the blame.
> > 
> > It can be handy to have a "permanently" mounted CD/DVD or USB2.0 flash 
> > device.
> > 
> This behavior messes up a bunch of scripts I've written that assume the
> external USB drive "MyBackupDrive" will be hooked up as
> "/media/MyBackupDrive" no matter who's logged in when it's plugged in.
> Phooey.

Yeah, is there a way to disable this behavior?
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Re: Move from /media to /run/media/$USER

2012-04-13 Thread John Reiser
> However, they aren't recognized [mounted] at all (not even upon subsequent 
> graphical
> login), and this is bad.  See 
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=722712
> where there is some argument whether udisks2 or gvfs should bear the blame.

Cold- or warm-plugged filesystem devices do appear in 
/dev/disk/{by-label,by-uuid,...}
so it seems that udev+udisks2 is acting normally.  However the filesystems
do not get mounted, neither under /media/ nor /run/media/$user/ .
This might be OK if there were an easy way to change the policy,
or to request "please process the cold- and warm-plugged events
as if they where hot-plugged _now_."

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re: serious Python-2.7.2.x86_64 crash

2012-04-13 Thread Rob Healey
Dear Adam:

> Greetings:
>
> Major crash!  Please fix before releasing Fedora 17
>
> Here is what I received on my terminal window regarding this crash...
>
> [Frog@FartingSalmon gep-026]$ pysetup run sdist
> running sdist
> running check
> invalid Python installation: unable to open
> /usr/lib/python2.7/config/Makefile (No such file or directory)

That's not a crash. That's a third-party tool making an apparently
unreliable assumption about what files will be present where in a
typical Python installation.

python-libs contains $libdir/python2.7/config/Makefile . I suspect
either you don't have python-libs installed, or the script you're
running is erroneously assuming that all distros use /usr/lib even on
x86_64 installs. If yours is an x86_64 install, this is likely the
source of the problem; you should ask upstream of whatever 'gep' is to
fix their script to look in /usr/lib64 when appropriate.

I do have python-libs installed and yes it is the 64bit version, so it
makes sense that it would not be in the /usr/lib/python2.7 directory!

For the time being, I created a symbolic link from
/usr/lib64/python2.7/config to /usr/lib/python2.7 ...  This may not be
the best idea or way of handling it, but it does work!

I will write the upstream version of Distutils2 to get a fix...

Sincerely yours,
Rob G. Healey

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Yum upgrade F16 -> F17

2012-04-13 Thread Tomi Leppikangas
Hi,

I did test upgrade with yum following info on
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upgrading_Fedora_using_yum

After doing succesfull usrmove i did upgrade with:
yum --releasever=17 update rpm
rm -f /var/lib/rpm/__*
rpm --rebuilddb
yum --releasever=17 distro-sync

If i boot after that i see that kernel is not updated and shutdown doesnt work.

If i run "yum update" after distro-sync, there is still packages updating:

[root@fedora16 ~]# yum update

Dependencies Resolved


 Package                  Arch   Version                  Repository       Size

Installing:
 kernel                   i686   3.3.1-5.fc17             updates-testing  24 M
Updating:
 audit                    i686   2.2.1-1.fc17             updates-testing 211 k
 audit-libs               i686   2.2.1-1.fc17             updates-testing  68 k
 biosdevname              i686   0.3.11-6.fc17            updates-testing  32 k
 cairo                    i686   1.10.2-7.fc17            updates-testing 456 k
 checkpolicy              i686   2.1.9-2.fc17             updates-testing 207 k
 device-mapper            i686   1.02.74-6.fc17           updates-testing 152 k
 device-mapper-event      i686   1.02.74-6.fc17           updates-testing 107 k
 device-mapper-event-libs i686   1.02.74-6.fc17           updates-testing 100 k
 device-mapper-libs       i686   1.02.74-6.fc17           updates-testing 177 k
 dhclient                 i686   12:4.2.3-24.P2.fc17      updates-testing 261 k
 dhcp-common              i686   12:4.2.3-24.P2.fc17      updates-testing 160 k
 dhcp-libs                i686   12:4.2.3-24.P2.fc17      updates-testing 128 k
 dracut                   noarch 018-1.fc17               updates-testing 187 k
 elfutils-libelf          i686   0.153-2.fc17             updates-testing 178 k
 expat                    i686   2.1.0-1.fc17             updates-testing  76 k
 fontconfig               i686   2.8.0-6.fc17             updates-testing 186 k
 freetype                 i686   2.4.8-3.fc17             updates-testing 373 k
 glibc                    i686   2.15-32.fc17             updates-testing 4.1 M
 glibc-common             i686   2.15-32.fc17             updates-testing  11 M
 gpgme                    i686   1.3.0-6.fc17             updates-testing 147 k
 grep                     i686   2.11-1.fc17              updates-testing 288 k
 iproute                  i686   3.3.0-1.fc17             updates-testing 403 k
 kmod                     i686   7-1.fc17                 updates-testing  65 k
 kmod-libs                i686   7-1.fc17                 updates-testing  44 k
 libblkid                 i686   2.21.1-1.fc17            updates-testing 129 k
 libdrm                   i686   2.4.33-1.fc17            updates-testing 109 k
 libgcc                   i686   4.7.0-1.fc17             updates-testing  85 k
 libgomp                  i686   4.7.0-1.fc17             updates-testing  89 k
 libmount                 i686   2.21.1-1.fc17            updates-testing 127 k
 libpciaccess             i686   0.13.1-1.fc17            updates-testing  25 k
 libpng                   i686   2:1.5.10-1.fc17          updates-testing 209 k
 libsepol                 i686   2.1.5-1.fc17             updates-testing 136 k
 libssh2                  i686   1.4.1-1.fc17             updates-testing 125 k
 libsss_sudo              i686   1.8.2-10.fc17            updates-testing  49 k
 libstdc++                i686   4.7.0-1.fc17             updates-testing 284 k
 libudev                  i686   182-1.fc17               updates-testing  78 k
 libuser                  i686   0.57.6-1.fc17            updates-testing 376 k
 libuuid                  i686   2.21.1-1.fc17            updates-testing  66 k
 libxcb                   i686   1.8.1-1.fc17             updates-testing 120 k
 linux-firmware           noarch 20120206-0.3.git06c8f81.fc17
                                                         updates-testing  10 M
 lvm2                     i686   2.02.95-6.fc17           updates-testing 618 k
 lvm2-libs                i686   2.02.95-6.fc17           updates-testing 520 k
 nspr                     i686   4.9-2.fc17               updates-testing 116 k
 nss                      i686   3.13.4-2.fc17            updates-testing 764 k
 nss-softokn              i686   3.13.4-1.fc17            updates-testing 180 k
 nss-softokn-freebl       i686   3.13.4-1.fc17            updates-testing 124 k
 nss-sysinit              i686   3.13.4-2.fc17            updates-testing  36 k
 nss-util                 i686   3.13.4-2.fc17            updates-testing  53 k
 openldap                 i686   2.4.30-2.fc17            updates-testing 274 k
 openssh                  i686   5.9p1-22.fc17            updates-testing 275 k
 openssh-server           i686   5.9p1-22.fc17            updates-testing 324 k
 openssl                  i686   1:

Re: F17 vs. Pentium 4

2012-04-13 Thread Michael Hennebry

On Fri, 13 Apr 2012, mwesten wrote:


On 04/12/2012 10:51 PM, Michael Hennebry wrote:

On Thu, 12 Apr 2012, mwesten wrote:


On 04/12/2012 07:12 PM, Michael Hennebry wrote:

No selinux message, but

Still no go.
I took some pictures of the "Details" message,



I'm not getting anything at that URL, and I probably won't have a way
around whatever it is, either.


Oops.
http://web.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu/~hennebry/new16-1.png
http://web.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu/~hennebry/new16-2.png
http://web.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu/~hennebry/new16-3.png


Alright, I looked at the pics you posted and it appears that you have 
reproduced this anaconda crash during the bootloader installation:


https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=796472

I was looking at the included exception report and it seems this person 
was installing F16 on the second of two drives with the bootloader going 
on the first.


Is that what you were doing as well?


That is not what I recall, but I might be wrong.
Is there a way to tell which disk was used
for booting that does not involve rebooting?
I've been poking around /proc , but haven't found anything.

As mentioned earlier, when attempting upgrade,
the only allowed source was F14, i.e. the one I wanted to keep.
For that reason, I selected fresh custom install.
When listing available partitions, anaconda listed the sda partitions as
the target partitions and the sdb partitions as the data partitions.
I put everything except a swap file on sdb.
When it asked where to put the bootloader,
I think it specified sda as the default.
My recollection was that sdb was the boot disk, so that bothered me.
Given the troubles I'd had previously after rejecting a bootloader default,
I decided to accept this one.
All seemed to be going well until the crash.

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Fedora 16 updates-testing report

2012-04-13 Thread updates
The following Fedora 16 Security updates need testing:


https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-5624/phpMyAdmin-3.5.0-1.fc16

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-4946/freetype-2.4.6-5.fc16
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-5058/expat-2.1.0-1.fc16

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-5155/perl-Pod-Plainer-1.03-1.fc16

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-5833/python3-3.2.3-1.fc16

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-5832/gallery3-3.0.3-1.fc16

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-5806/gallery2-2.3.2-1.fc16

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-5411/quagga-0.99.20.1-1.fc16

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-5243/wireshark-1.6.6-1.fc16

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-5434/tremulous-1.2.0-0.5.beta1.fc16

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-5410/libtiff-3.9.5-3.fc16
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-5421/rpm-4.9.1.3-1.fc16

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2011-14691/tomcat6-6.0.32-19.fc16

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-5518/libpng-1.2.49-1.fc16


The following Fedora 16 Critical Path updates have yet to be approved:


https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-5750/PackageKit-0.6.22-1.fc16

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-5669/v4l-utils-0.8.7-1.fc16

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-5518/libpng-1.2.49-1.fc16

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-5410/libtiff-3.9.5-3.fc16

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-5396/gdb-7.3.50.20110722-14.fc16
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-5421/rpm-4.9.1.3-1.fc16

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-5400/NetworkManager-0.9.4-2.git20120403.fc16

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-5274/gnome-settings-daemon-3.2.3-1.fc16

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-5236/virtuoso-opensource-6.1.5-2.fc16

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-5227/akonadi-1.7.2-1.fc16
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-5148/flac-1.2.1-8.fc16
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-5030/mysql-5.5.22-1.fc16

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-4946/freetype-2.4.6-5.fc16

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-4975/openbox-3.5.0-5.fc16
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-5058/expat-2.1.0-1.fc16

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-4990/colord-0.1.18-2.fc16
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-5087/polkit-0.103-1.fc16
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-5062/phonon-4.6.0-3.fc16

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-5086/nss-util-3.13.4-2.fc16,nss-3.13.4-2.fc16,nss-softokn-3.13.4-1.fc16,nspr-4.9-2.fc16
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-5032/mdadm-3.2.3-7.fc16
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-5005/cups-1.5.2-8.1.fc16

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-5056/accountsservice-0.6.15-3.fc16

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-5022/xorg-x11-server-1.11.4-3.fc16

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-4981/openldap-2.4.26-7.fc16


The following builds have been pushed to Fedora 16 updates-testing

drupal6-og-2.2-4.fc16
eclipse-3.7.1-8.fc16
eclipse-vrapper-0.18.0-0.1.git1961d1.fc16
exif-0.6.20-3.fc16
gallery2-2.3.2-1.fc16
gallery3-3.0.3-1.fc16
help2man-1.40.8-1.fc16
ibus-pinyin-1.4.0-16.fc16
josm-0-0.28.5177svn.fc16
kdeutils-4.8.2-2.fc16
libguestfs-1.16.17-1.fc16
libpinyin-0.5.92-1.fc16
libreoffice-3.4.5.2-12.fc16
mcomix-0.98-1.fc16
nagios-plugins-openmanage-3.7.5-1.fc16
nogravity-2.00-16.fc16
perl-DBIx-SearchBuilder-1.62-1.fc16
perl-HTML-Lint-2.20-2.fc16
perl-Log-Dispatch-Perl-0.04-1.fc16
python-dulwich-0.8.5-1.fc16
python3-3.2.3-1.fc16
radvd-1.8.2-3.fc16
ruby-1.8.7.358-1.fc16
rubygem-hpricot-0.8.6-1.fc16
rubygem-nokogiri-1.5.2-1.fc16
shotwell-0.10.1-4.fc16
tito-0.4.8-1.fc16

Details about builds:



 drupal6-og-2.2-4.fc16 (FEDORA-2012-5847)
 Organic Group Module for Drupal6

Update Information:

Here is where you give an explanation of your update.

References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #807328 - Review Request: drupal6-og - Organic Group Module for 
Drupal6
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=807328



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Fedora 15 updates-testing report

2012-04-13 Thread updates
The following Fedora 15 Security updates need testing:


https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-5256/wireshark-1.4.12-1.fc15

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-5631/phpMyAdmin-3.5.0-1.fc15

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-5805/samba-3.5.14-73.fc15.1

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-5822/gallery3-3.0.3-1.fc15

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-5814/gallery2-2.3.2-1.fc15

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-5436/quagga-0.99.20.1-1.fc15
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-5420/rpm-4.9.1.3-1.fc15

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-5422/freetype-2.4.4-8.fc15

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-5406/libtiff-3.9.5-3.fc15

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-5515/libpng-1.2.49-1.fc15

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2011-17233/tor-0.2.1.32-1500.fc15


The following Fedora 15 Critical Path updates have yet to be approved:


https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-5805/samba-3.5.14-73.fc15.1

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-5745/nss-util-3.13.4-2.fc15,nss-3.13.4-2.fc15,nss-softokn-3.13.4-1.fc15,nspr-4.9-2.fc15

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-5515/libpng-1.2.49-1.fc15

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-5406/libtiff-3.9.5-3.fc15

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-5422/freetype-2.4.4-8.fc15
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-5420/rpm-4.9.1.3-1.fc15
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/dracut-009-15.fc15
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-5102/mysql-5.5.22-1.fc15
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-4959/mdadm-3.2.3-7.fc15

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-4971/python-cups-1.9.60-3.fc15

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-5053/openldap-2.4.24-6.fc15
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/lm_sensors-3.3.2-1.fc15

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2011-13190/phonon-backend-gstreamer-4.5.90-2.fc15,phonon-4.5.57-1.20110914.fc15


The following builds have been pushed to Fedora 15 updates-testing

exif-0.6.20-3.fc15
gallery2-2.3.2-1.fc15
gallery3-3.0.3-1.fc15
help2man-1.40.8-1.fc15
josm-0-0.28.5177svn.fc15
mcomix-0.98-1.fc15
nagios-plugins-openmanage-3.7.5-1.fc15
nogravity-2.00-16.fc15
perl-DBIx-SearchBuilder-1.62-1.fc15
perl-HTML-Lint-2.20-2.fc15
perl-Log-Dispatch-Perl-0.04-1.fc15
python-dulwich-0.8.5-1.fc15
radvd-1.8.2-3.fc15
ruby-1.8.7.358-1.fc15
rubygem-hpricot-0.8.6-1.fc15
samba-3.5.14-73.fc15.1
tito-0.4.8-1.fc15

Details about builds:



 exif-0.6.20-3.fc15 (FEDORA-2012-5846)
 Utility to show EXIF information hidden in JPEG files

Update Information:

Utility to show EXIF information hidden in JPEG files

References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #796465 - Review Request: exif - Utility to show EXIF information 
hidden in JPEG files
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=796465




 gallery2-2.3.2-1.fc15 (FEDORA-2012-5814)
 Customizable photo gallery web site

Update Information:

Fixes for CVE-2012-1113, minor XSS vulnerabilities.

ChangeLog:

* Thu Apr 12 2012 Jon Ciesla  - 2.3.2-1
- Latest upstream, minor security fixes,
- BZ 812048, 812049, 812050.
* Fri Feb  3 2012 Jon Ciesla  - 2.3.1-6
- Unbundle php-pear-Mail-Mime, BZ 501867.
* Fri Jan 13 2012 Fedora Release Engineering  
- 2.3.1-5
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_17_Mass_Rebuild

References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #812048 - CVE-2012-1113 gallery: XSS flaws in administration area 
[fedora-all]
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=812048
  [ 2 ] Bug #812049 - CVE-2012-1113 gallery: XSS flaws in administration area 
[fedora-rawhide]
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=812049
  [ 3 ] Bug #812050 - CVE-2012-1113 gallery: XSS flaws in administration area 
[epel-5]
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=812050




 gallery3-3.0.3-1.fc15 (FEDORA-2012-5822)
 Customizable photo gallery web site

Re: How to install some software that requires Python 2.6 and rejects 2.7?

2012-04-13 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On 13 April 2012 09:58, Horst H. von Brand  wrote:
> Richard Shaw  wrote:
>> On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 3:37 PM, Fernando Cassia  wrote:
>> > of which http://mcepl.fedorapeople.org/rpms/ maintains Fedora RPMs for here
>> > http://mcepl.fedorapeople.org/rpms/scribes-0.4-0.bzr2017r1032.1.el6.noarch.rpm
>>
>> You're trying to install the el6 package which must ship with Python
>> 2.6. Easiest solution is to download the source RPM instead and
>> rebuild it on your system:
>
> I find it strange that there is a EPEL package that isn't also available for
> Fedora proper. Isn't that a requirement for EPEL?

No. The requirement is that the package is reviewed and acceptable to
Fedora Packaging standards.. but various packages can be EPEL only if
they will only work on stuff that Fedora has no want to maintain
anymore.



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Re: Move from /media to /run/media/$USER

2012-04-13 Thread Al Dunsmuir
On Friday, April 13, 2012, 3:05:43 PM, Steven Stern wrote:
> On 04/13/2012 12:25 PM, John Reiser wrote:
>> On 04/13/2012 06:48 AM, Bill Nottingham wrote:
>>> Release notes seem fine. Basically, removable media mounted in the
>>> user's session are now  mounted in a user-specific directory.
>> 
>> There's still a problem: cold-plugged media, or even warm-plugged media.
>> Cold-plugged (before boot) should be mounted under /media as soon as udisks2 
>> runs.
>> Warm-plugged (after boot but before login) probably should be, too,
>> although there's room for discussion regarding /media/ versus
>> /run/media/$next_console_login/, particularly for multi-seat operation
>> (Plugable.com, etc.), but particularly including login on either text or 
>> graphical
>> local console.
>> 
>> However, they aren't recognized [mounted] at all (not even upon subsequent 
>> graphical
>> login), and this is bad.  See 
>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=722712
>> where there is some argument whether udisks2 or gvfs should bear the blame.
>> 
>> It can be handy to have a "permanently" mounted CD/DVD or USB2.0 flash 
>> device.
>> 
> This behavior messes up a bunch of scripts I've written that assume the
> external USB drive "MyBackupDrive" will be hooked up as
> "/media/MyBackupDrive" no matter who's logged in when it's plugged in.
> Phooey.

It's  worse.  Think  CD/DVD/USB  shared  via Samba. No one needs to be
logged on in the pre-F17 scenario, but now things are totally broken.

Deferring  things until first logon only makes sense if there actually
is  a logon.  That is an unwarranted design assumption  - too many "it
must be a single user desktop" assumptions/bias.

Using Fedora as a small home network server just got more complex, and
I  smell  incompatibilities  coming  with how folks using Fedora (or a
later RHEL release) would tend to treat mounted media.

With  F16  I  finally  was  able to use on-boot static addressing with
NetworkManager on my Samba/DHCP/DNS small server. No more switching to
to  use  the  traditional Network service. Please keep things flexible
to allow for these scenarios.

Al

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RE: Slow Firefox in F17

2012-04-13 Thread Joseph L. Casale
> I have just the worst experience with proprietary nvidia drivers and desktop
> rendering, especially in Firefox. Try to switch to nouveau driver whether it
> improves, I'm almost certain you'll be amazed. If that's the case, try to bash
> nvidia in their support forum, but don't expect much.

Well, I can say it improved, but not any worthy amount on this Acer Aspire R3610
with an nVidia ION card.
Thanks,
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Re: F17 vs. Pentium 4

2012-04-13 Thread Michael Hennebry

Why can grub find one file and not the other?

[root@localhost homes]# pwd
/homes
[root@localhost homes]# df / /homes
Filesystem   1K-blocks  Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/sdb1082582288  32223896  46163628  42% /
/dev/sdb1 38456308  35386332   1116476  97% /homes
[root@localhost homes]# ls vmlinuz-3.1.9-1.4-desktop 
vmlinuz-2.6.35.14-106.fc14.i686.PAE

vmlinuz-2.6.35.14-106.fc14.i686.PAE  vmlinuz-3.1.9-1.4-desktop
[root@localhost homes]# grub
Probing devices to guess BIOS drives. This may take a long time.


GNU GRUB  version 0.97  (640K lower / 3072K upper memory)

 [ Minimal BASH-like line editing is supported.  For the first word, TAB
   lists possible command completions.  Anywhere else TAB lists the possible
   completions of a device/filename.]
grub> find /vmlinuz-2.6.35.14-106.fc14.i686.PAE
find /vmlinuz-2.6.35.14-106.fc14.i686.PAE

Error 15: File not found
grub> find /vmlinuz-3.1.9-1.4-desktop
find /vmlinuz-3.1.9-1.4-desktop
 (hd1,0)
 (hd1,1)
grub>

[root@localhost homes]# mount | grep sdb
/dev/sdb10 on / type ext4 (rw)
/dev/sdb11 on /var type ext3 (rw)
/dev/sdb1 on /homes type ext3 (rw)

/homes is the mountpoint for sdb1==(hd1,0)
What gives?

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